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Title: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: dkn on March 09, 2024, 12:33:33 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/JvKMGRp/DCE0-EAC0-24-E3-45-B7-B4-B0-E27-EC44-DE60-C.jpg)

i'll start this by sayin i think GH is actually too politically illiterate to be an ideological fascist/racist and that lots of this behavior stems from him just being sheltered, though his reach and influence in skateboarding is powerful enough to end careers

you have numerous black skaters voicing that GH unjustly targets their culture.  it's enough voices that this can not be ruled a big nothing

coincidentally, Gifted Hater is selling political merch targetting the largest anti-fascist voice, Hasan, a massive proponent of rights for the homeless, black, gay, trans, etc. communities

(this convo was overtakin the insta thread so ima continue discussion here)

edit:

(https://i.ibb.co/t3LpYcz/2-AE5-B766-FBA7-4390-A835-38-C762943-D08.png)

this shit blew up so ima be real i was mostly concerned with GH doing 3min vid teachin kids champagne-socialist rhetoric (fascistic talking point)
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: TrainWreck on March 09, 2024, 12:35:19 PM
Take your meds and go back to reddit
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: JoseCansnake0 on March 09, 2024, 12:44:55 PM
You about to get LeDave'd

Also, chill tf out
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: ChuckRamone on March 09, 2024, 12:47:46 PM
GH please never make this face again

(https://i.ibb.co/WKkv5pG/IMG-8826.jpg)
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: thailand on March 09, 2024, 01:00:39 PM
This website is so ridiculous
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: skate_or_dingus on March 09, 2024, 01:03:14 PM
GH please never make this face again

(https://i.ibb.co/WKkv5pG/IMG-8826.jpg)

 He's got an uncontrollable urge
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: carcinisation on March 09, 2024, 01:04:54 PM
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GH please never make this face again

(https://i.ibb.co/WKkv5pG/IMG-8826.jpg)
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 He's got an uncontrollable urge

to criticize black skaters  ;D
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: botefdunn on March 09, 2024, 01:09:35 PM
Mainstream/commercial culture can't be separated from the social norms of its audience/market, including the underlying social inequalities and biases that make up that culture.
Perspectives that consistently take into account underlying, systemic isms, are by definition a more radical proposition.
I think expecting an egalitarian perspective in a podcast with mainstream aspirations, is like believing in corporate responsibility, ie. at best a gamble and likely a waste of time.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: dkn on March 09, 2024, 01:12:32 PM
Mainstream/commercial culture can't be separated from the social norms of its audience/market, including the underlying social inequalities and biases that make up that culture.
Perspectives that consistently take into account underlying, systemic isms, are by definition a more radical proposition.
I think expecting an egalitarian perspective in a podcast with mainstream aspirations, is like believing in corporate responsibility, ie. at best a gamble and likely a waste of time.

i do agree with this and it's why i never posted anything til i learned dudes sellin political merch.  you sell political merch, you subvert this argument
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Uh Oh on March 09, 2024, 01:17:12 PM
Grifted Hater
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: DCLOVE on March 09, 2024, 01:27:43 PM
I don’t know how you could taking skating so seriously and be part of that right wing shit . Like all our legends besides Tony hawk are POC . The most influential era of skating was done by poc . Also would be crazy to associate with a dude like Tim pool when you’re on sci fi with arin , a black trans woman . But not surprising I guess he’s from Orange County right? That’s a pretty republican area for California. Really anywhere outside of LA and SF are republican strongholds cause it’s either really rich, military bases (sd) or rural farm/desert trash.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: mendo on March 09, 2024, 01:31:49 PM
didnt he call covid a scam recently too?
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: gringo_viejo on March 09, 2024, 01:36:58 PM
Always noticed more red hats and  DT photos popping up in his videos than I'm comfortable with. Kept hoping it was just trolling/attention seeking.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Rick Trapasso on March 09, 2024, 01:37:30 PM
I wish it was easier to tell when people were trolling these days.

People actually thinking/saying shit this stupid makes it difficult though.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: InkkeACAB on March 09, 2024, 01:38:49 PM
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Mainstream/commercial culture can't be separated from the social norms of its audience/market, including the underlying social inequalities and biases that make up that culture.
Perspectives that consistently take into account underlying, systemic isms, are by definition a more radical proposition.
I think expecting an egalitarian perspective in a podcast with mainstream aspirations, is like believing in corporate responsibility, ie. at best a gamble and likely a waste of time.
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i do agree with this and it's why i never posted anything til i learned dudes sellin political merch.  you sell political merch, you subvert this argument

is it really political merch tho ? seems to me more likely that he is trolling a youtube celebrity he finds corny regarless of their political leanings, like he is also currently doing with moistcritikal - another corny youtube celeb

they're all corny only difference is gh is pretty self aware of his corniness and niche market in comparison to these guys

your opening paragraph answers your own question
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: lurkluke on March 09, 2024, 01:44:33 PM
didnt he call covid a scam recently too?

That was a very obvious joke.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: mendo on March 09, 2024, 01:46:56 PM
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didnt he call covid a scam recently too?
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That was a very obvious joke.

fuck was it. my bad
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: dkn on March 09, 2024, 01:47:22 PM
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Mainstream/commercial culture can't be separated from the social norms of its audience/market, including the underlying social inequalities and biases that make up that culture.
Perspectives that consistently take into account underlying, systemic isms, are by definition a more radical proposition.
I think expecting an egalitarian perspective in a podcast with mainstream aspirations, is like believing in corporate responsibility, ie. at best a gamble and likely a waste of time.
[close]

i do agree with this and it's why i never posted anything til i learned dudes sellin political merch.  you sell political merch, you subvert this argument
[close]

is it really political merch tho ? seems to me more likely that he is trolling a youtube celebrity he finds corny regarless of their political leanings, like he is also currently doing with moistcritikal - another corny youtube celeb

they're all corny only difference is gh is pretty self aware of his corniness and niche market in comparison to these guys

your opening paragraph answers your own question

when he discusses Hasan he literally recites the "champagne socialist" argument used in early-1900s East Germany though.  it manifests into kids slapping that rhetoric everywhere and invalidating one of the few anti-fascist voices we have.  poor people sure as shit dont get to have a voice like that
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: jakeumms on March 09, 2024, 01:51:00 PM
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GH please never make this face again

(https://i.ibb.co/WKkv5pG/IMG-8826.jpg)
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 He's got an uncontrollable urge
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to criticize black skaters  ;D
Thread's already paying off

I think it's fair to start asking these questions as the dog whistling is kinda getting hard to ignore. Then again, you know you're old when you can't tell if you're being trolled.

If GH wants to continue to exist just outside of the mainstream and post content that is critical of all skaters (which was the point of the fishbowl video I think) then it's probably time for some self-reflection and some acknowledgement of priveleges and biases. Like that dude may be crook nollie flipping every contest rail like his life depends on it because it does.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: NoComply180 on March 09, 2024, 01:53:19 PM
I’m more concerned that he’s next to Ricky Glaser, known fake pro YouTube kook of the Braille-tier dumpster level

Where do the racism allegations stem from? Criticizing Beatrice? She fucking sucks lmao, dozens of female pros/ams who shit on her. Rayssa is like 15 and can kickflip front board handrails. And it’s not like Beatrice has style or trick/spot selection on her side to make her “cool” despite her mid skillset like so often is the case with skaters from certain parts of the country. If there’s something else that gives weight to GH being racially biased I’m just not aware of it I guess
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: gringo_viejo on March 09, 2024, 01:55:11 PM
I haven't watched all of GHs  content by any means...but from what I've seen it seems like his main targets are:
1. Cariuma
2. Berra/the Berries
3. People who don't spin their tricks all the way
4. Contest skaters, but also weirdly focused on contests/street league.

Every once in awhile I see some sort of red hat with "Make America Poop Again" or some damn thing on it, and go, "ew gross." This happens often enough to make me feel some kinda way. But it didn't seem like it rose to the level of "fascism."

Has anyone got specific examples of hateful racist stuff? So I don't have to go back and reevaluate his whole catalogue clip by clip?
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: haydtang on March 09, 2024, 01:57:15 PM
I’m more concerned that he’s next to Ricky Glaser, known fake pro YouTube kook of the Braille-tier dumpster level

Where do the racism allegations stem from? Criticizing Beatrice? She fucking sucks lmao, dozens of female pros/ams who shit on her. Rayssa is like 15 and can kickflip front board handrails. And it’s not like Beatrice has style or trick/spot selection on her side to make her “cool” despite her mid skillset like so often is the case with skaters from certain parts of the country. If there’s something else that gives weight to GH being racially biased I’m just not aware of it I guess

i think he also said tyshawns sw ollie over the table, wasnt straight over the first time
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Democratic Republic Of Mongo on March 09, 2024, 01:58:28 PM
Y’all need Jesus
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: dropintopileout on March 09, 2024, 01:59:53 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/PJeihW4.jpeg)
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: TheWineClub on March 09, 2024, 02:03:55 PM
It’s really not that serious, GH hates in all things kooky. It’s no different than what happens here except there’s a face to the hate instead of the anonymity.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: InkkeACAB on March 09, 2024, 02:06:50 PM
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Mainstream/commercial culture can't be separated from the social norms of its audience/market, including the underlying social inequalities and biases that make up that culture.
Perspectives that consistently take into account underlying, systemic isms, are by definition a more radical proposition.
I think expecting an egalitarian perspective in a podcast with mainstream aspirations, is like believing in corporate responsibility, ie. at best a gamble and likely a waste of time.
[close]

i do agree with this and it's why i never posted anything til i learned dudes sellin political merch.  you sell political merch, you subvert this argument
[close]

is it really political merch tho ? seems to me more likely that he is trolling a youtube celebrity he finds corny regarless of their political leanings, like he is also currently doing with moistcritikal - another corny youtube celeb

they're all corny only difference is gh is pretty self aware of his corniness and niche market in comparison to these guys

your opening paragraph answers your own question
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when he discusses Hasan he literally recites the "champagne socialist" argument used in early-1900s East Germany though.  it manifests into kids slapping that rhetoric everywhere and invalidating one of the few anti-fascist voices we have.  poor people sure as shit dont get to have a voice like that

hasan is the living definition of a 'champagne socialist'

you're jumping to the defence of a youtube millionaire
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: dkn on March 09, 2024, 02:07:51 PM
Has anyone got specific examples of hateful racist stuff? So I don't have to go back and reevaluate his whole catalogue clip by clip?

from ig thread:

I appreciate your view on this man, the lips are more of a representation for the shit black skaters (and people) have had to deal with for a long time and coming from a edgelord affluent OC kid it may seem like fun criticism, but to me he’s a microcosm for a certain brand of racism/racial ignorance. How Robert Neal wearing a hot wheels jacket is seen as a point of comedic criticism but to me and a lot of black people I know we all grew up wearing nascar racing jackets and forces as little kids. For him to see it as funny to me reads as him finding black culture clownish (he seems to target black skaters for things ingrained in our culture) . It just feels as another white person telling me or my people what’s right and wrong because it might not assimilate with his culture.

Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Bumba on March 09, 2024, 02:12:08 PM
This is a stretch and seems very race baity

We should come together and make fun of Robert Neal's fits as one. Not be against each other
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: haydtang on March 09, 2024, 02:32:54 PM
This is a stretch and seems very race baity

We should come together and make fun of Robert Neal's fits as one. Not be against each other

they surely are the worst out, no?
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: KrisJolson on March 09, 2024, 02:35:27 PM
rober neal kook of the year 2024
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: gringo_viejo on March 09, 2024, 02:40:29 PM
As a child if the 80s I will brook no Hot Wheels slander. Sol-aire CX4? ULTRA RAD!
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: JANUS on March 09, 2024, 02:45:48 PM
baity

(https://i.redd.it/06fat79rwfs61.gif)
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: MusclesMarinara on March 09, 2024, 02:55:40 PM
Imagine caring what Gifted Hater had to say
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Allen. on March 09, 2024, 02:58:16 PM
Do you sincerely believe that someone you align with politically or ideologically is above criticism? Why?
Do you not see how stupid, dumb and dangerous that is?  Especially fucking Hasan? A streamer. A corny streamer, at that.

It’s a funny stupid sticker. Joa put a sticker on his laptop and OP snapped, just went berserk on him.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: gringo_viejo on March 09, 2024, 03:00:06 PM
On the other hand, if I wore this matchy match ensemble to the sesh I would absolutely expect to be roasted.
(https://i.imgur.com/nqZfa5z.png)

When you take a fashion risk, you gotta expect that not all will feel you.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on March 09, 2024, 03:11:48 PM
Gofted Hoter.
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Post by: addie pray on March 09, 2024, 03:15:45 PM
marxism will never formulate in the west because the concept of labor and the working person's relationship to it is beyond distorted by the forces of culture acting on behalf of capital- that's how you end up with people watching youtube millionaires instead of organizing the labor force they belong to

anyway youtube is stupid and if you give a fuck about it your brain is tapioca, do a fuckin front 5-0
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: 2fakie on March 09, 2024, 03:18:32 PM
He's just a fan of being a troll, however that reflects on him, he doesn't really seem to care. I just hope he's able to prune his audience of any of the usual right wing internet troll crowd. Those always get dragged further into fashy shit.

He's generally stated to be in support of progressive issues but i think he's just internet brained like a lot of white guys in their 20s.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: 2fakie on March 09, 2024, 03:19:26 PM
Also lmfao @ all the people grandstanding their vague political beliefs in a skate forum.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: addie pray on March 09, 2024, 03:22:33 PM
right, we should be speculating on a guy who makes vlogs in his house like you
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: dkn on March 09, 2024, 03:25:08 PM
Do you sincerely believe that someone you align with politically or ideologically is above criticism? Why?
Do you not see how stupid, dumb and dangerous that is?  Especially fucking Hasan? A streamer. A corny streamer, at that.

It’s a funny stupid sticker. Joa put a sticker on his laptop and OP snapped, just went berserk on him.

nah bro i don't even like Hasan, his atheistic slant is annoying.  ima big fan of GH, he recently quoted me laughin on air with "ima emo sk8r but i fw Jaeb fo sho" and that shit had me over the moon.  but im also an activist who feeds the homeless and helps move them after homeless sweeps.  im homeless myself.  so when i see a trend in dudes behavior, like him doin the champagne socialist rhetoric for 3 min straight against the only dude fightin for the homeless , it starts to feel like a big slap in the face

(https://i.ibb.co/t3LpYcz/2-AE5-B766-FBA7-4390-A835-38-C762943-D08.png)

how bout he just stay out politics if he dont want pushback??  y ppl riding for this dumb edgy fash shit while homelessness skyrockets?  shits too real right now to be facetious about this shit.  they buildin cop cities and criminalizing homelessness, trans kids fuckin diein
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Paco Supreme on March 09, 2024, 03:25:12 PM
LeDave'd

The sweet prince has a term named after him now
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: gringo_viejo on March 09, 2024, 03:38:41 PM
The unofficial Robert Neal experience:

(https://i.imgur.com/aX1Mwss.png)
Sick! No hot wheels slander.

(https://i.imgur.com/QsT5bPU.png)
Sick. BDUs = best skate pants.

(https://i.imgur.com/bSk0afX.png)
Sick but Biggie says you need the hat to match.

(https://i.imgur.com/XWoEgVX.png)
A little busy but I back it.

(https://i.imgur.com/4ARWF83.png)
Sweatshirt doesn't match hair. Points deducted.

(https://i.imgur.com/2faxoJK.png)
Ouch. Hung up in the deep end; straight to flat.

Result: Yep, he's a skater/model alright. Too bad Givenchy or whatever still pays more than riding for Primitive.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Enrico Pallazzo on March 09, 2024, 03:54:40 PM
Say what you want about the chapo guys, but they have one of those most successful Patreons in history and still dress like absolute dogshit. Solidarity.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: eastcoastbarbarian on March 09, 2024, 04:03:54 PM
You cant be full left wing and still be funny. Ive never met a funny leftist, all they do is suck the air out of everything
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: gringo_viejo on March 09, 2024, 04:05:53 PM
Gifted Hater/Model?

(https://i.imgur.com/ciYVPGe.png)
Glasses: 9/10. Stache: junior high/10. Vacant expression: teleprompter/10.

(https://i.imgur.com/9qpFUcQ.png)
Nice pants. Close your shoulders.

(https://i.imgur.com/hPNrpXo.png)
Ooh a weed hat. So edgy.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZWEBKLb.png)
Oh Scott Pilgrim. If only you had a friend who was good at getting a nice deep hair dye color...

(https://i.imgur.com/2QooELL.png)
Just...wow. I admire the full commit, but this look says, "my girl broke up with me and I've been locked in my room ever since, eating funyuns and watching porn."

Result: NOT qualified to make fashion critiques. Turn in your hater/model union card.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: gringo_viejo on March 09, 2024, 04:12:51 PM
You cant be full left wing and still be funny. Ive never met a funny leftist, all they do is suck the air out of everything

Counterpoint: Jon Stewart.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: eastcoastbarbarian on March 09, 2024, 04:24:05 PM
im homeless myself. 
Your gonna stay homeless with the ideas you have, how bout you stop spending your time helping other homeless and help yourself and get a job.

Why are you homeless?
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: A Not At All Naughty Chemist on March 09, 2024, 04:41:01 PM
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I’m more concerned that he’s next to Ricky Glaser, known fake pro YouTube kook of the Braille-tier dumpster level

Where do the racism allegations stem from? Criticizing Beatrice? She fucking sucks lmao, dozens of female pros/ams who shit on her. Rayssa is like 15 and can kickflip front board handrails. And it’s not like Beatrice has style or trick/spot selection on her side to make her “cool” despite her mid skillset like so often is the case with skaters from certain parts of the country. If there’s something else that gives weight to GH being racially biased I’m just not aware of it I guess
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i think he also said tyshawns sw ollie over the table, wasnt straight over the first time

It wasn't
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: eastcoastbarbarian on March 09, 2024, 04:48:36 PM
Homie deleted the part where he said he was homeless, probably thought his parents were fascists or some shit and hit the streets
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: dkn on March 09, 2024, 04:55:56 PM
Homie deleted the part where he said he was homeless, probably thought his parents were fascists or some shit and hit the streets

what?  no i didn't.  i just don't want to talk about me.  it's unfair that i have to.

i'm homeless because i come from a poor mexican family and my dad died in prison.  i don't have a support system.  i've worked two jobs for the last two years.  you're a massive piece of shit for making me do this.

i shouldn't have to out myself as a homeless person to get people to acknowledge that i know what i'm talking about.  GH going on a 3min champagne-socialist rant, collabing with a Tim-Pool associate, and using a Hitler-esque photo to represent him should be enough.

0.65m homeless, 16m empty homes.

25% of our planet's food is trashed for corporate profit.

they're criminalizing homelessness and building camps.

stop letting skaters pull even more fascism into skateboarding — stop letting them do these dogwhistles and then hiding under some half-assed veil of irony.  listen to oppressed voices.  we see shit others don't see.

black skaters are sayin it.  i'm a poor POC skater and im sayin it.  yall ignorin it.  ok
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: eastcoastbarbarian on March 09, 2024, 05:03:24 PM
Ive been homeless before too, I just assumed because your talking like all the homeless kids that are just homeless cause they hate thier parents, my bad, but honestly with two jobs you should be able to get out of that shit.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Allen. on March 09, 2024, 05:05:23 PM
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Do you sincerely believe that someone you align with politically or ideologically is above criticism? Why?
Do you not see how stupid, dumb and dangerous that is?  Especially fucking Hasan? A streamer. A corny streamer, at that.

It’s a funny stupid sticker. Joa put a sticker on his laptop and OP snapped, just went berserk on him.
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nah bro i don't even like Hasan, his atheistic slant is annoying.  ima big fan of GH, he recently quoted me laughin on air with "ima emo sk8r but i fw Jaeb fo sho" and that shit had me over the moon.  but im also an activist who feeds the homeless and helps move them after homeless sweeps.  im homeless myself.  so when i see a trend in dudes behavior, like him doin the champagne socialist rhetoric for 3 min straight against the only dude fightin for the homeless , it starts to feel like a big slap in the face

(https://i.ibb.co/t3LpYcz/2-AE5-B766-FBA7-4390-A835-38-C762943-D08.png)

how bout he just stay out politics if he dont want pushback??  y ppl riding for this dumb edgy fash shit while homelessness skyrockets?  shits too real right now to be facetious about this shit.  they buildin cop cities and criminalizing homelessness, trans kids fuckin diein

Listen friend - its really rad that you fight for homeless people and help them out. But if you are going to publicly make a post calling someone a fascist because of a sticker (that agrees with you as you “don’t like Hasan”) you need more of an argument than that.

Also, Hasan is not the only person fighting for the homeless..?

While I admittedly don’t know you, I can tell you I probably agree with you on a majority of points (fuck cop city, trans rights are human rights, we’re on stolen land, there should be no billionaires, free Palestine, blm, et all), this is very much not worth it; with all due respect. Are Joa and Tim Pool 1:1? What about Richie Jackson and Joa? What about that dude on footprint and formerly Cliche? Taylor Silverman? Biebel? Danny Way? All of those, most of whom have a  bigger audience than GH, have a great deal of legitimate quantifiable (or did, in Biebel’s case) evidence against them that shows that they are without a doubt doing more for the spread of fascism than Joa.

Edit as it’s been a min since I started writing this and things have taken a gnarlier turn - I am in no way trying to be condescending mentioning homelessness nor am I trying to weaponize it by mentioning it. It was in the post when I started replying.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: A Not At All Naughty Chemist on March 09, 2024, 05:11:00 PM

and using a Hitler-esque photo to represent him should be enough.


It's harry potter in a WWI movie
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Bumba on March 09, 2024, 05:12:47 PM
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Homie deleted the part where he said he was homeless, probably thought his parents were fascists or some shit and hit the streets
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what?  no i didn't.  i just don't want to talk about me.  it's unfair that i have to.

i'm homeless because i come from a poor mexican family and my dad died in prison.  i don't have a support system.  i've worked two jobs for the last two years.  you're a massive piece of shit for making me do this.

i shouldn't have to out myself as a homeless person to get people to acknowledge that i know what i'm talking about.  GH going on a 3min champagne-socialist rant, collabing with a Tim-Pool associate, and using a Hitler-esque photo to represent him should be enough.

0.65m homeless, 16m empty homes.

25% of our planet's food is trashed for corporate profit.

they're criminalizing homelessness and building camps.

stop letting skaters pull even more fascism into skateboarding — stop letting them do these dogwhistles and then hiding under some half-assed veil of irony.  listen to oppressed voices.  we see shit others don't see.

black skaters are sayin it.  i'm a poor POC skater and im sayin it.  yall ignorin it.  ok

I'm a POC and I'm saying Gifted Hater isn't a racist 🤷
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Bumba on March 09, 2024, 05:14:47 PM
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and using a Hitler-esque photo to represent him should be enough.

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It's harry potter in a WWI movie

He looks more like a British officer than Hitler. I can't tell if the guy that made this thread is trolling or serious. I hope he's trolling
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: dkn on March 09, 2024, 05:19:33 PM
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Do you sincerely believe that someone you align with politically or ideologically is above criticism? Why?
Do you not see how stupid, dumb and dangerous that is?  Especially fucking Hasan? A streamer. A corny streamer, at that.

It’s a funny stupid sticker. Joa put a sticker on his laptop and OP snapped, just went berserk on him.
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nah bro i don't even like Hasan, his atheistic slant is annoying.  ima big fan of GH, he recently quoted me laughin on air with "ima emo sk8r but i fw Jaeb fo sho" and that shit had me over the moon.  but im also an activist who feeds the homeless and helps move them after homeless sweeps.  im homeless myself.  so when i see a trend in dudes behavior, like him doin the champagne socialist rhetoric for 3 min straight against the only dude fightin for the homeless , it starts to feel like a big slap in the face

(https://i.ibb.co/t3LpYcz/2-AE5-B766-FBA7-4390-A835-38-C762943-D08.png)

how bout he just stay out politics if he dont want pushback??  y ppl riding for this dumb edgy fash shit while homelessness skyrockets?  shits too real right now to be facetious about this shit.  they buildin cop cities and criminalizing homelessness, trans kids fuckin diein
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Listen friend - its really rad that you fight for homeless people and help them out. But if you are going to publicly make a post calling someone a fascist because of a sticker (that agrees with you as you “don’t like Hasan”) you need more of an argument than that.

Also, Hasan is not the only person fighting for the homeless..?

While I admittedly don’t know you, I can tell you I probably agree with you on a majority of points (fuck cop city, trans rights are human rights, we’re on stolen land, there should be no billionaires, free Palestine, blm, et all), this is very much not worth it; with all due respect. Are Joa and Tim Pool 1:1? What about Richie Jackson and Joa? What about that dude on footprint and formerly Cliche? Taylor Silverman? Biebel? Danny Way? All of those, most of whom have a  bigger audience than GH, have a great deal of legitimate quantifiable (or did, in Biebel’s case) evidence against them that shows that they are without a doubt doing more for the spread of fascism than Joa.

Edit as it’s been a min since I started writing this and things have taken a gnarlier turn - I am in no way trying to be condescending mentioning homelessness nor am I trying to weaponize it by mentioning it. It was in the post when I started replying.

i never called him a fascist.  i said he is spreading fascistic narratives in skateboarding and that it pairs with what black skaters are saying.  the first sentence of my post literally addressed this.  now we got mfs on slap repeating the champagne socialist rhetoric.

how about just keep politics out of it if your voice that big?  like you don't gotta use a Hitler pic to represent you.  dont gotta flex them dumb ass red hats.  dont gotta teach ur audience the right-wing talking points

name one other person with an audience the size of Hasan's fighting for actual material change to address homelessness.  and i dont mean charities to squander like LA and SF just got busted for.

idk, i'm done yall can meme over this, i never wanted this to have to be about me — now i'm just embarrassed.  i just wanted to say that as an expert in antifascist activism (political organizer in multiple cities, well-versed on Marx, Hegel, Deleuze, etc.), what i'm seeing black skaters sayin checks out on my end.

edit:  lost all my mf rep over this shit and everything.  wont be responding further
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: gringo_viejo on March 09, 2024, 05:27:23 PM
 
(https://i.ibb.co/t3LpYcz/2-AE5-B766-FBA7-4390-A835-38-C762943-D08.png)
 
Wait...is this picture real?
Not sure which it is, but isn't there a rule that...
First one to cosplay as Hitler has lost the argument
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First one to photoshop somebody as Hitler has lost the argument?
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: GAY on March 09, 2024, 05:37:06 PM
Geoff Rowley + Gifted Hater = Gofted Rowler
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: eastcoastbarbarian on March 09, 2024, 05:37:21 PM
Wants to throw all this heat on gifted hater but cant handle a little heat over himself, remember that next time you try to do this to people
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: nicotinewheel on March 09, 2024, 05:46:44 PM
dkn you make a lot of good points but Hasan has a lot of people fixated on him in a negative way, GH has a ton of fans on here & earnest left posting on slap will always open the kook valve, chin up
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Bumba on March 09, 2024, 05:49:33 PM
Some of you are as dumb as a brick wall.

That's not Hitler. It's Daniel Radcliffe (Harry Potter) as John Kipling (a WW1 British Officer who fought against Germany). Jesus Christ. If you're going to bring up Hitler, as least know what he looks like
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Eric Dolphy on March 09, 2024, 05:53:33 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/t3LpYcz/2-AE5-B766-FBA7-4390-A835-38-C762943-D08.png)
 
Wait...is this picture real?
Not sure which it is, but isn't there a rule that...
First one to cosplay as Hitler has lost the argument
OR
First one to photoshop somebody as Hitler has lost the argument?
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Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: botefdunn on March 09, 2024, 05:57:46 PM
Some of you are as dumb as a brick wall.

That's not Hitler. It's Daniel Radcliffe (Harry Potter) as John Kipling (a WW1 British Officer who fought against Germany). Jesus Christ. If you're going to bring up Hitler, as least know what he looks like

Yo that's fuckin wack that if what you say is true and  Harry Potter is a fascist. Post his yt channel so we can see for ourselves.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: A Not At All Naughty Chemist on March 09, 2024, 06:05:57 PM
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Some of you are as dumb as a brick wall.

That's not Hitler. It's Daniel Radcliffe (Harry Potter) as John Kipling (a WW1 British Officer who fought against Germany). Jesus Christ. If you're going to bring up Hitler, as least know what he looks like
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Yo that's fuckin wack that if what you say is true and  Harry Potter is a fascist. Post his yt channel so we can see for ourselves.

(https://i.insider.com/57acc1c7ce38f221008b634d?width=1024&format=jpeg)
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Banned from the room on March 09, 2024, 06:07:35 PM
Idk him like that. I have noticed some things that bothers me but I see it everywhere.

If you wanna know who's "secretly" on the right rn. Theyre currently having a pissing match with their friend-emies over who's actually the one fronting on the lord.

So if you trolly friend is suddenly interested in bombing you over the safety of your soul you know they been pandering to the scum online.

Also dickheads who hide behind the word A political. You gotta watch out for those fools. Fuckin Ancap A political or whatever is just fancy word for fuckin poser.

You gotta a horse in the race maaaaaaan
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: gringo_viejo on March 09, 2024, 06:10:59 PM
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Some of you are as dumb as a brick wall.
not terribly familiar with the collected works of Daniel Radcliffe
That's not Hitler. It's Daniel Radcliffe (Harry Potter) as John Kipling (a WW1 British Officer who fought against Germany). Jesus Christ. If you're going to bring up Hitler, as least know what he looks like
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Conceded. But you can see where I got confused right? That shirt and that moustache, in a thread about fascism and anti-fascism? Welp, off to brush up on my kickflips WWI history.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Dante Bichette on March 09, 2024, 06:11:15 PM
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Some of you are as dumb as a brick wall.

That's not Hitler. It's Daniel Radcliffe (Harry Potter) as John Kipling (a WW1 British Officer who fought against Germany). Jesus Christ. If you're going to bring up Hitler, as least know what he looks like
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Yo that's fuckin wack that if what you say is true and  Harry Potter is a fascist. Post his yt channel so we can see for ourselves.
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(https://i.insider.com/57acc1c7ce38f221008b634d?width=1024&format=jpeg)

“Nate what are you doing man? 😰”
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: frontsideNECKTIE on March 09, 2024, 06:11:42 PM
Left wing this right wing that

Take your shirt off and make a spicy comment or youre not going in the video
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Banned from the room on March 09, 2024, 06:14:22 PM
Some of you are as dumb as a brick wall.

That's not Hitler. It's Daniel Radcliffe (Harry Potter) as John Kipling (a WW1 British Officer who fought against Germany). Jesus Christ. If you're going to bring up Hitler, as least know what he looks like

Lol
I fuckin love this post.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: TheWineClub on March 09, 2024, 06:15:08 PM
Something is really wrong with you if you don’t think Robert Neal is kooky. It’s ok to call things what it is, same thing with Carl Aikens. He’s completely insufferable/cringe and even teammates think so.
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Post by: Ninj2 on March 09, 2024, 06:17:36 PM
Gorffed hater would be a better name. Gorf, Jonah, joa. All sounds the same to me. He like Eddie hascale and Jerry is the beaver.  Hot wheels is dope btw. Why get mad at hot wheels gorffed hater? I think you is a fed breh.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: addie pray on March 09, 2024, 06:21:01 PM
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Some of you are as dumb as a brick wall.

That's not Hitler. It's Daniel Radcliffe (Harry Potter) as John Kipling (a WW1 British Officer who fought against Germany). Jesus Christ. If you're going to bring up Hitler, as least know what he looks like
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Yo that's fuckin wack that if what you say is true and  Harry Potter is a fascist. Post his yt channel so we can see for ourselves.
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(https://i.insider.com/57acc1c7ce38f221008b634d?width=1024&format=jpeg)


this image reminds me of reading the beatrice/kader/tyshawn thread
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Banned from the room on March 09, 2024, 06:29:02 PM
Something is really wrong with you if you don’t think Robert Neal is kooky. It’s ok to call things what it is, same thing with Carl Aikens. He’s completely insufferable/cringe and even teammates think so.

I didn't like the plastic juwelry. I wrote about it once.

Later I saw one of his interaction with a bogus security guard. He didn't descend into violence or threaten to do harm to the little angry individual. He played games.

That makes him more than ok in my book. Didn't his mom interview about his skating once too. If so like that as well. I wish I had an opportunity to put my mom on the tv once.

GH should show us his mom

Mike Mo did it
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Banned from the room on March 09, 2024, 06:29:24 PM
GH should show us his mom lol
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Post by: Rick Trapasso on March 09, 2024, 06:35:18 PM
GH should show us his mom lol

That would surely settle any racism accusations.

I support this
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: MyLegHurts on March 09, 2024, 06:38:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rww-f1LMBE4&t=15s

Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Crust on March 09, 2024, 07:05:37 PM
It’s really not that serious, GH hates in all things kooky. It’s no different than what happens here except there’s a face to the hate instead of the anonymity.

This. Any and everyone gets criticism from him.

The examples cited so far have been tenuous at best. I don't see it.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Banned from the room on March 09, 2024, 07:13:20 PM
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GH should show us his mom lol
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That would surely settle any racism accusations.

I support this

I'll trade. I'll put a picture of Ma up.

I'm hoping that there's no racism. Some pal who's kinda local should just go find out.
All it takes to find out is becoming friends with someone. If they suck then you know pretty quickly.

You don't even gotta be friends all you gotta do is be present and witness group behaviors.

Racist avoid me because I will speak up immediately. It doesn't matter who it is. I'm making at least a noise of disapproval and shut down this bogus holiday dinner or session or whatever.

Everyone should love their mom. Mine is awesome. I feel lucky. She also is against racism. We come from an extremely racist environment and we beat it.

It's so easy just to fall in line. gotta resist that shit
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Post by: Colin Robinson on March 09, 2024, 07:32:12 PM
I will always back a “talk shit, get hit” policy when it comes to openly vocal racists. Get fucked pussies, some “superior” race when you all look like bridge trolls.
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Post by: dkn on March 09, 2024, 07:42:37 PM
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GH should show us his mom lol
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That would surely settle any racism accusations.

I support this
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I'll trade. I'll put a picture of Ma up.

I'm hoping that there's no racism. Some pal who's kinda local should just go find out.
All it takes to find out is becoming friends with someone. If they suck then you know pretty quickly.

You don't even gotta be friends all you gotta do is be present and witness group behaviors.

Racist avoid me because I will speak up immediately. It doesn't matter who it is. I'm making at least a noise of disapproval and shut down this bogus holiday dinner or session or whatever.

Everyone should love their mom. Mine is awesome. I feel lucky. She also is against racism. We come from an extremely racist environment and we beat it.

It's so easy just to fall in line. gotta resist that shit


plot twist i'm local

i dont fuck with OC no more, HB straight up banned rainbow flags.  search Santa Ana racism on google if you wanna see the shit goin on in schools there.  no shade at Santa Ana locals tho, or especially Anaheim park locals, those dudes rip.  just not safe for ppl like me there

i live on the east side, LA

edit: i skate SF more than LA tho, prob skated with lotta sf heads on here, and Albuquerque
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Sick_McCrank_ on March 09, 2024, 07:43:53 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/t3LpYcz/2-AE5-B766-FBA7-4390-A835-38-C762943-D08.png)
 
Wait...is this picture real?
Not sure which it is, but isn't there a rule that...
First one to cosplay as Hitler has lost the argument
OR
First one to photoshop somebody as Hitler has lost the argument?

If that looks like hitler I have bad news for you. Your eyes have a defect.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Sick_McCrank_ on March 09, 2024, 07:49:02 PM
Gifted hat3r cannot be allowed to use a camera or a computer or a skateboard and we shouldn’t allow him to speak until he apologizes to literally everyone.

Am I doing it right?

Sounds pretty fascist.

Also I don’t get all this fascist-panic you have there in Southern California when it’s probably one of the most racially diverse places on earth. Can’t imagine nazis getting far there. Blacks, Asians and Hispanics would shut them down pretty hard pretty quick.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: i used to skate on March 09, 2024, 08:01:22 PM
I think gifted leans a little right, or at least leans against liberals

But he is an equal opportunity hater

And he’s been working on a take down video of Tim Pool for a couple weeks now which should be out soon
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Banned from the room on March 09, 2024, 08:02:33 PM
I will always back a “talk shit, get hit” policy when it comes to openly vocal racists. Get fucked pussies, some “superior” race when you all look like bridge trolls.

Definitely no Nazis in the mix ever. People should know that shit in 2024.

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GH should show us his mom lol
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That would surely settle any racism accusations.

I support this
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I'll trade. I'll put a picture of Ma up.

I'm hoping that there's no racism. Some pal who's kinda local should just go find out.
All it takes to find out is becoming friends with someone. If they suck then you know pretty quickly.

You don't even gotta be friends all you gotta do is be present and witness group behaviors.

Racist avoid me because I will speak up immediately. It doesn't matter who it is. I'm making at least a noise of disapproval and shut down this bogus holiday dinner or session or whatever.

Everyone should love their mom. Mine is awesome. I feel lucky. She also is against racism. We come from an extremely racist environment and we beat it.

It's so easy just to fall in line. gotta resist that shit
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plot twist i'm local

i dont fuck with OC no more, HB straight up banned rainbow flags.  search Santa Ana racism on google if you wanna see the shit goin on in schools there.  no shade at Santa Ana locals tho, or especially Anaheim park locals, those dudes rip.  just not safe for ppl like me there

i live on the east side, LA

That's fucked up. It's in line with my brief oc experience. I didn't even know where he was from.

Here it's the next town over. Way less than it used to be tho. There was some violence around stop the steal on the Swampscott/Lynn line.

It's super well documented on YouTube those protests. Those cats should have just put a public announcement in the local papers. Totally unpopular position around here.

There's like 15-20 full on jews won't replace us hardcore idiots around here still that pulled an action on an anarchist market a few years ago.

Way out in the burbs. It was like highschool students and their grandparents from the 60s and these idiots they went in all time to break up the squat style tripping ready for war.

No one was hurt.

I wasn't there so who knows how far it went. Shits fucked up regardless. They was pissed about the needle exchange or something I was told. Thought antifa was organizing they claimed.

Obvious lie. They knew it was safe.

I was shocked to hear it tho. I thought only the most pathetic jail folk was about that violence in the neighborhood shit
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Post by: dkn on March 09, 2024, 08:11:41 PM
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Gifted hat3r cannot be allowed to use a camera or a computer or a skateboard and we shouldn’t allow him to speak until he apologizes to literally everyone.

Am I doing it right?
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Sounds pretty fascist.

Also I don’t get all this fascist-panic you have there in Southern California when it’s probably one of the most racially diverse places on earth. Can’t imagine nazis getting far there. Blacks, Asians and Hispanics would shut them down pretty hard pretty quick.

nah g ur misunderstandin what fascism is.  last time i was in OC 5-0 tore apart my whip searchin me.  didnt find shit.  mocked me and said i dont belong.  its systemic.  push the oppressed down, lift the privileged up

this same fascistic push occurs when the de-facto tastemaker in skateboarding has bias against black culture as described here:

Racism in my opinion is a spectrum, there is the extreme skinhead/WS on one side and on the other is also subconsciously ingrained societal racism and GH falls under that line for me. I find him to be a kook, he seems to have a racial bias and non understanding of the black community and black culture. Seeing him be compared to Grosso in terms of a “watchdog” for skating is a very high insult to Jeff. What made Jeff special is that he suffered immensely in his life, he struggled with addiction and mental health and lost it all, but was redeemed through what saved him and that’s skating. He was tender soul with immense life experience and a great understanding for the world around us. GH is a suburban OC kid, with no real life experiences and it shows. He’s not a man who’s been to hell and back, he’s just a 14 year old in a grown man’s body with opinions.

real af on that Grosso bit btw, RIP dude lived it def
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Post by: ejazzle on March 09, 2024, 08:16:17 PM
Op, you ok man? Being real here, you doin alright?
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Post by: fakie nollie on March 09, 2024, 08:18:44 PM
I’m kind of surprised no one has punched GH yet
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Banned from the room on March 09, 2024, 08:26:42 PM
I think gifted leans a little right, or at least leans against liberals

But he is an equal opportunity hater

And he’s been working on a take down video of Tim Pool for a couple weeks now which should be out soon

Against liberals doesn't mean you're on the right racist tho.

I'm not a big jfk guy or anything. And I'm def not handing out cookies in the streets neo the one style.

I consider myself as just a skater who seen and even sometimes found myself involved in ugliness as a kid. I experienced it too. I want it to die. I want us tribe with out hesitation because we're all skatebloarding.

Talking shit is fine. I actually love it. But attacks that try to subhuman someone in anyway is unacceptable. You can enjoy your toy how you wanna but you can not do that hate shit around here.

People who can't recognize what they're looking at sometimes open up and be like blah blah yuck at me.

My neighbor on election night was like all 1980 memories and Reagan era suck into my ear and how much she loved the man.
Hmmm
I weighed it took a sip of my beer and politely toldl my crazy neighbor I'm going to bed. Talking to me about Reagan on voting day.

How could she think we could unite around that idk. She's rich. Definitely been the victim of some 1970s nightmare.
There's no way I wanna fight again.

Thank the dark lord she didn't say David Duke. My god. People forget that fool ran in 1980.
And BOOM Charlottesville there he is and he was saying on the tv that Trump made promises and now he's gotta pay up. That's on top of the official kkk endorsement!

How the fuck can we be there again back to back. Why aren't both sides running younger people idk. It's like they benefit from the continuation of hate.  ???
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Post by: Banned from the room on March 09, 2024, 08:35:13 PM
I Kno it's not to do with GH. I just want to illustrate how close problems really are. We should all stick together. Especially in skatebloarding
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: dkn on March 09, 2024, 08:48:09 PM
I Kno it's not to do with GH. I just want to illustrate how close problems really are. We should all stick together. Especially in skatebloarding

ya <3

idk maybe GH will post a vid uncovering whats rly goin on with Tim Pool tryin to market off skatin.  maybe he'll reflect on his privilege a bit and better understand when to attack and when to not.  thats all i want

in all likelihood Glaser is just an accidental puppet of Tim Pool and GH tryin to save him and GH means no harm when he targets things attached to oppressed cultures cause he never seen no real real
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: manuduncan on March 09, 2024, 09:00:27 PM
On his latest stream he said he’s putting together a Tim pool hit piece video

also I feel like scifi and especially Ryan lay and Jerry hsu wouldn’t really fuck with him anymore if they thought he was what you are insinuating he is
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: dkn on March 09, 2024, 09:04:22 PM
ya nah i know Jerry Hsu is class conscious, he put it on the merch.  so when GH does these antics i just wonder why Hsu not givin him guidance

and to be clear i never insinuated GH is shit except a sheltered kid sayin sometimes-naive shit

edit: but regardless dude pretty much runs our culture at this point, so there are real consequences when he teaches kids certain things (champagne-socialist rhetoric) or clowns on certain shit (hot wheels jacket)
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Post by: Sila on March 09, 2024, 09:46:38 PM
ya nah i know Jerry Hsu is class conscious, he put it on the merch.  so when GH does these antics i just wonder why Hsu not givin him guidance

and to be clear i never insinuated GH is shit except a sheltered kid sayin sometimes-naive shit

edit: but regardless dude pretty much runs our culture at this point, so there are real consequences when he teaches kids certain things (champagne-socialist rhetoric) or clowns on certain shit (hot wheels jacket)

I'm a poc and that's the main impression I have of him. The thing is though if all the same takes were coming from some random guy at the park i'd be inclined to be slightly more suspect.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: addie pray on March 09, 2024, 10:03:13 PM
ya nah i know Jerry Hsu is class conscious, he put it on the merch

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Post by: Newphone on March 09, 2024, 10:10:12 PM
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Mainstream/commercial culture can't be separated from the social norms of its audience/market, including the underlying social inequalities and biases that make up that culture.
Perspectives that consistently take into account underlying, systemic isms, are by definition a more radical proposition.
I think expecting an egalitarian perspective in a podcast with mainstream aspirations, is like believing in corporate responsibility, ie. at best a gamble and likely a waste of time.
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i do agree with this and it's why i never posted anything til i learned dudes sellin political merch.  you sell political merch, you subvert this argument
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is it really political merch tho ? seems to me more likely that he is trolling a youtube celebrity he finds corny regarless of their political leanings, like he is also currently doing with moistcritikal - another corny youtube celeb

they're all corny only difference is gh is pretty self aware of his corniness and niche market in comparison to these guys

your opening paragraph answers your own question
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when he discusses Hasan he literally recites the "champagne socialist" argument used in early-1900s East Germany though.  it manifests into kids slapping that rhetoric everywhere and invalidating one of the few anti-fascist voices we have.  poor people sure as shit dont get to have a voice like that
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hasan is the living definition of a 'champagne socialist'

you're jumping to the defence of a youtube millionaire

He’s mentioned in the definition of the term “champagne socialist” on Wikipedia in fact.  I just happened to look it up as OP was mentioning it so frequently and was amused to find him being called one in the short blurb on the use of this term in the US.

It seems like something that Hassan might be trying to get in front of by dismissing it as “(empty) rhetoric”, but GH is certainly not the first or last to accuse him of being hypocritical. 

I do find GH to be a bit too edgelord/online/right adjacent for my liking at times, but don’t think this is a great example. 


Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: manuduncan on March 09, 2024, 10:13:59 PM
ya nah i know Jerry Hsu is class conscious, he put it on the merch.  so when GH does these antics i just wonder why Hsu not givin him guidance

and to be clear i never insinuated GH is shit except a sheltered kid sayin sometimes-naive shit

edit: but regardless dude pretty much runs our culture at this point, so there are real consequences when he teaches kids certain things (champagne-socialist rhetoric) or clowns on certain shit (hot wheels jacket)

But isn’t that worth clowning lol it’s an objectively dumb jacket

And to wear it while going 0 for 5 on your tricks in street league just adds to the humor and clownability

In that same skate fashion vid he shit on ville wester just as much, and he’s gone in on all the dickies riders like Tom Knox Jamie foy Jake hayes in a much more merciless fashion imo no pun intended
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: swellbowed on March 09, 2024, 10:20:58 PM
(cough cough)
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120262.0 (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120262.0)
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Banned from the room on March 09, 2024, 10:35:12 PM
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I think gifted leans a little right, or at least leans against liberals

But he is an equal opportunity hater

And he’s been working on a take down video of Tim Pool for a couple weeks now which should be out soon
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Against liberals doesn't mean you're on the right racist tho.

I'm not a big jfk guy or anything. And I'm def not handing out cookies in the streets neo the one style.

I consider myself as just a skater who seen and even sometimes found myself involved in ugliness as a kid. I experienced it too. I want it to die. I want us tribe with out hesitation because we're all skatebloarding.

Talking shit is fine. I actually love it. But attacks that try to subhuman someone in anyway is unacceptable. You can enjoy your toy how you wanna but you can not do that hate shit around here.

People who can't recognize what they're looking at sometimes open up and be like blah blah yuck at me.

My neighbor on election night was like all 1980 memories and Reagan era suck into my ear and how much she loved the man.
Hmmm
I weighed it took a sip of my beer and politely toldl my crazy neighbor I'm going to bed. Talking to me about Reagan on voting day.

How could she think we could unite around that idk. She's rich. Definitely been the victim of some 1970s nightmare.
There's no way I wanna fight again.

Thank the dark lord she didn't say David Duke. My god. People forget that fool ran in 1980.
And BOOM Charlottesville there he is and he was saying on the tv that Trump made promises and now he's gotta pay up. That's on top of the official kkk endorsement!

How the fuck can we be there again back to back. Why aren't both sides running younger people idk. It's like they benefit from the continuation of hate.  ???
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Not a jfk guy myself, but besides adams and Quincy adams jimmy carter was our finest president.

Carter I agree looks good. His religious views and lack of power base got him killed by Bush the cia and the hostage situation.
He should NOT have fucked with the shah. Good guys can't ever read the room.

Idk if there was any good presidents.

Think about like Ike and his strike first policy. They are all bastards. I have faith in the future. I'd like to see a woman win.  Like a few in a row
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: dkn on March 09, 2024, 10:56:15 PM
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Mainstream/commercial culture can't be separated from the social norms of its audience/market, including the underlying social inequalities and biases that make up that culture.
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I think expecting an egalitarian perspective in a podcast with mainstream aspirations, is like believing in corporate responsibility, ie. at best a gamble and likely a waste of time.
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i do agree with this and it's why i never posted anything til i learned dudes sellin political merch.  you sell political merch, you subvert this argument
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is it really political merch tho ? seems to me more likely that he is trolling a youtube celebrity he finds corny regarless of their political leanings, like he is also currently doing with moistcritikal - another corny youtube celeb

they're all corny only difference is gh is pretty self aware of his corniness and niche market in comparison to these guys

your opening paragraph answers your own question
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when he discusses Hasan he literally recites the "champagne socialist" argument used in early-1900s East Germany though.  it manifests into kids slapping that rhetoric everywhere and invalidating one of the few anti-fascist voices we have.  poor people sure as shit dont get to have a voice like that
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hasan is the living definition of a 'champagne socialist'

you're jumping to the defence of a youtube millionaire
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He’s mentioned in the definition of the term “champagne socialist” on Wikipedia in fact.  I just happened to look it up as OP was mentioning it so frequently and was amused to find him being called one in the short blurb on the use of this term in the US.

It seems like something that Hassan might be trying to get in front of by dismissing it as “(empty) rhetoric”, but GH is certainly not the first or last to accuse him of being hypocritical. 

I do find GH to be a bit too edgelord/online/right adjacent for my liking at times, but don’t think this is a great example.

bro ngl you're a dumbass, you should work on that.  must notta seen the Bernie buzz in 2016 smh.  libs espousing champagne-socialism rhetoric has haunted all anti-capitalist discussion ever

like, you can put this on a hat:

(https://cdn.shoplightspeed.com/shops/608710/files/54309639/sci-fi-fantasy-neoliberal-hellscape-hat-black.jpg)

and still make a livelihood for yourself.  you can criticize capitalism and even own food and shelter, believe it or not.  yall mfs gonna get us killed bein this dumb, im not even kidding i got the numbers to back that up

this why we cant have GH spreadin that shit, cause now i gotta provide training wheels to lazy minds all day
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: dkn on March 09, 2024, 11:24:11 PM
imagine $lave dropped today LOLL yall be like "little hypocritical dont you think..."

remind me to never have anti-capitalist takes in front of skaters outside SF again, this shit way too depressing.  no wonder Tim Pool fuckin with this shit.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Shtonk on March 09, 2024, 11:58:23 PM
First I was gonna tell OP to take their fake woke identity politics bullshit back to skate twitter and concoct trashy fictional outrage plots with the likes of Kyle Beachy over there. Then I thought maybe they're not doing well with all the backtracking, contradicting and skewed takes on reality. Now I'm finding it most likely this is some false flag counterinsurgence from the Tim Pool camp in expectation of the GH takedown vid.

Not just against GH but also Ricky Glaser who iirc has clearly denied working for Tim Pool but somehow this is presented as fact here? Update appreciated if I've missed out on any developments here tho.

Anybody who thinks Hasan Piker is "the only antifascist voice we have" is more terminally internet brained than GH will ever be. And lol at the absolute units on here mistaking Daniel Radcliffe for Hitler.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: lurkluke on March 10, 2024, 12:02:36 AM
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ya nah i know Jerry Hsu is class conscious, he put it on the merch.  so when GH does these antics i just wonder why Hsu not givin him guidance

and to be clear i never insinuated GH is shit except a sheltered kid sayin sometimes-naive shit

edit: but regardless dude pretty much runs our culture at this point, so there are real consequences when he teaches kids certain things (champagne-socialist rhetoric) or clowns on certain shit (hot wheels jacket)
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But isn’t that worth clowning lol it’s an objectively dumb jacket

And to wear it while going 0 for 5 on your tricks in street league just adds to the humor and clownability

In that same skate fashion vid he shit on ville wester just as much, and he’s gone in on all the dickies riders like Tom Knox Jamie foy Jake hayes in a much more merciless fashion imo no pun intended

Yeah the joke wasn't the jacket, it was getting so dressed up in a statement piece and not scoring a point.

That's inherently funny in a skateboarding competition.

It'd be funny if Foy rocked up in a matrix duster, or Dicenzo in a valour tracksuit.

 If Robert Neale won it would've been great... but he didn't. So he has to take a few shots online.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: dkn on March 10, 2024, 12:32:57 AM
First I was gonna tell OP to take their fake woke identity politics bullshit back to skate twitter and concoct trashy fictional outrage plots with the likes of Kyle Beachy over there. Then I thought maybe they're not doing well with all the backtracking, contradicting and skewed takes on reality. Now I'm finding it most likely this is some false flag counterinsurgence from the Tim Pool camp in expectation of the GH takedown vid.

Not just against GH but also Ricky Glaser who iirc has clearly denied working for Tim Pool but somehow this is presented as fact here? Update appreciated if I've missed out on any developments here tho.

Anybody who thinks Hasan Piker is "the only antifascist voice we have" is more terminally internet brained than GH will ever be. And lol at the absolute units on here mistaking Daniel Radcliffe for Hitler.

bold of you to assume i'm a "fake-woke-identity-politics-bullshit" liberal.  i'm anti-capitalist you idiot, and i'm extremely well-versed.  you will not catch me slipping or "backtracking"; i'm not a reactionary like you; i have specific philosophical texts i work off (Hegel, Deleuze, Marx).

as i said, Ricky Glaser is a Tim Pool associate.  sus of you to try to subvert my remark by twisting it into acting like i said he's Tim Pool's employee.

(https://i.ibb.co/m044xQJ/CA868375-B8-A2-4-C53-8276-92409530-F994.png)

1) now name me a single anti-fascist voice in the mainstream eye other than Hasan.  and i don't mean fascist in the reactionary way you understand it of people showing up at drag shows or whatever the fuck with guns.  i mean the systemic fascism that economic liberalism both theoretically and anecdotally slips into (as we are witnessing), where the rich get richer/rarer and the working class becomes homeless and made to be criminals/die while useful pawns like you rush to defend the very system causing it.

2) also, name one point where i contradicted myself.  a single one.

do not shy from these two things i'm asking of you.  i typically don't debate because it's wasteful as a food fight,  but i've an audience and i can already tell from the language you are using and your username that you are an easy target and that i can easily embarrass the shit out of you with little ontological toll.  and this has nothing to do with my ego, i just find it infuriating that you can so casually dismiss antifascist perspectives during a literal genocide and homelessness epidemic.

dumbass lib.  "identity politics" smh, this material dialectics right here
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: AdditionalSlip on March 10, 2024, 01:20:35 AM
You’re pretty far gone here, you don’t need to die on a hill for hasan piker. He uses virtue signalling to rake in a living on social media, his opinions are so far removed from his acts. If your basis for gh being a fascist is him mocking a narcissistic vampire then he should be ok.

The discourse on this is ridiculous, it seems like some actually need it spelled out to them that people talking on the internet can have different thoughts than they do.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Dante Bichette on March 10, 2024, 01:29:37 AM
Me after writing nonsensical essays to own a edgy youtuber

https://youtu.be/_IqYGtKx9WM
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Steely Daniel on March 10, 2024, 01:39:14 AM
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ya nah i know Jerry Hsu is class conscious, he put it on the merch.  so when GH does these antics i just wonder why Hsu not givin him guidance

and to be clear i never insinuated GH is shit except a sheltered kid sayin sometimes-naive shit

edit: but regardless dude pretty much runs our culture at this point, so there are real consequences when he teaches kids certain things (champagne-socialist rhetoric) or clowns on certain shit (hot wheels jacket)
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But isn’t that worth clowning lol it’s an objectively dumb jacket

And to wear it while going 0 for 5 on your tricks in street league just adds to the humor and clownability

In that same skate fashion vid he shit on ville wester just as much, and he’s gone in on all the dickies riders like Tom Knox Jamie foy Jake hayes in a much more merciless fashion imo no pun intended
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It'd be funny if Foy rocked up in a matrix duster, or Dicenzo in a valour tracksuit.


I want to see this so bad. Short chunky boy in a long duster grinding the fuck outta everything.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: håkanhellström on March 10, 2024, 01:40:05 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/JvKMGRp/DCE0-EAC0-24-E3-45-B7-B4-B0-E27-EC44-DE60-C.jpg)

i'll start this by sayin i think GH is actually too politically illiterate to be an ideological fascist/racist and that lots of this behavior stems from him just being sheltered, though his reach and influence in skateboarding is powerful enough to end careers

you have numerous black skaters voicing that GH unjustly targets their culture.  it's enough voices that this can not be ruled a big nothing

coincidentally, Gifted Hater is selling political merch targetting the largest anti-fascist voice, Hasan, a massive proponent of rights for the homeless, black, gay, trans, etc. communities

(this convo was overtakin the insta thread so ima continue discussion here)

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(https://i.ibb.co/t3LpYcz/2-AE5-B766-FBA7-4390-A835-38-C762943-D08.png)
That hassan piker sticker is raleted joas podcast world genius stuff. It has not anything to do with political they just have internet beef with this twitch steamer hassan piker.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: dkn on March 10, 2024, 01:50:30 AM
You’re pretty far gone here, you don’t need to die on a hill for hasan piker. He uses virtue signalling to rake in a living on social media, his opinions are so far removed from his acts. If your basis for gh being a fascist is him mocking a narcissistic vampire then he should be ok.

The discourse on this is ridiculous, it seems like some actually need it spelled out to them that people talking on the internet can have different thoughts than they do.

idc bout Hasan i dont even like dute, pompous atheists are annoying

what i care about is the philosophy of what's occurring: that any anticapitalist voice who gets into mainstream eyes gets slandered by this liberal understanding that the products you consume define who you are.  thus the poor get no voice to represent them other than liberals when economic liberalism is literally what's making people poor.

keep in mind: by liberals i mean both left-wing and right-wing ones.  believers of capitalism, of economic liberalism

it's the champange-socialist rhetoric.  GH literally made a video reciting it for 3 minutes.  i've had to spell it out 20 times in here.

"far gone," sure yeah, far gone from you.  because you define people by the products they purchase.  i don't. i'm not brainwashed by capitalism like you are.  i'd argue that you're far gone.

completely perplexed that you guys can not see past the champagne-socialist rhetoric.  very sad.  Jesus was killed by behavior like this you know.  people said "how dare you speak for the oppressed!  you can't do that because _____"
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: dkn on March 10, 2024, 03:29:01 AM
also, i don't want to have to type in MLA Standard soft-serving you guys philosophy lessons.  i get it, that you're not used to socialist philosopher types.  but what i do ask you to acknowledge is that i am very well-versed in this stuff and have very real experience and lots of it, dating back to OWS.  i have ties to things like the Black Panthers, i've touched the captured flags from East Germany.  i've led many protests.  and what i'm seeing, is that in spite of the fact that i like Gifted Hater, i'm seeing black skaters feeling a certain way about him and it's checking out on my end; that he is indeed providing fascist talking points.  i don't think it's intentional, but i think somewhere down the line they are sneaking into his diet of information (perhaps 4chan or something?) and that he is without a doubt the defacto tastemaker in skateboarding and thus regurgitating it back to us.  he runs our culture.

this should worry you.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: naites on March 10, 2024, 04:08:25 AM
If there are ten people at a table, a fascist comes and sits down, and no one gets up, then there are eleven fascists at a table.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: HugeBodBoyle on March 10, 2024, 04:55:37 AM
I think it was John Perry Barlow that said, "it is true, you can't have good without evil, but you don't have to give evil a seat at the table."

Not sure where that fits into this thread, and I don't think GH is evil or anything, but I feel like there's better uses of energy in the world than what he churns out.

Orange County is a weird place, man.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Shtonk on March 10, 2024, 05:28:17 AM
I applaud those on here with the patience to treat this guy at face value still. I'll go ahead and consider my theory #3 confirmed. People like you are the reason true leftist spaces still need gatekeepers. Gonna gift Joa an extra 10 subs next stream just to spite you and subscribe to Ricky Glaser too. And on the off chance you're actually being real: go get help please, this isn't a good place for you.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Shtonk on March 10, 2024, 05:34:16 AM
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also, i don't want to have to type in MLA Standard soft-serving you guys philosophy lessons.  i get it, that you're not used to socialist philosopher types.  but what i do ask you to acknowledge is that i am very well-versed in this stuff and have very real experience and lots of it, dating back to OWS.  i have ties to things like the Black Panthers, i've touched the captured flags from East Germany.  i've led many protests.  and what i'm seeing, is that in spite of the fact that i like Gifted Hater, i'm seeing black skaters feeling a certain way about him and it's checking out on my end; that he is indeed providing fascist talking points.  i don't think it's intentional, but i think somewhere down the line they are sneaking into his diet of information (perhaps 4chan or something?) and that he is without a doubt the defacto tastemaker in skateboarding and thus regurgitating it back to us.  he runs our culture.

this should worry you.
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That's interesting. I've done all those things too. I actually know black skaters who think hes an amazing representation of skating and don't feel any type of way towards him at all.

You see how you're just saying shit, but not actually saying anything of value or substance or without the ability to completely refute. Anyone can give a call to authority and some hypothetical anecdote about "black" skaters. You're saying so much shit in this post about all these heavy topics, but aren't really saying a god damn thing that is undeniable. You're like my manager. Just talking and saying shit without ever making a digestible point.

you say you "have the numbers" to back up that we're all going "get us killed". Please enlighten us on exactly what you mean.

You are the quintessential "woke" dick head that thinks hes holier than thou in his outlook on life when in reality your as fucking clueless as the rest of us, just can't admit it.

Just get over it man. People are over the leftist crybaby bullshit. Y'all had a good run. Let it be known as well that I want public works, free health care, school, etc. You on the other hand want to bitch and moan and connect your dots like fucking charlie day out of its always sunny and get the kid canceled because you don't agree with a sticker on a laptop and the fact hes in a picture with someone who you again do not agree with politically.

There is this hyper bizarre irony of you leftist turds screaming and shouting about authoritarianism and fascism. The reality it is over the past decade the blue haired liberal arts major, I can't get a job cause I have a stupid degree and am in mad debt to a university but am going to blame the system not my bad life choice, has been the the most authoritarian and close to fascism. The unwavering cultural war they've set out on every tom dick and sally under the sun that doesn't conform to the gospel of the left is really old news my man.

Are you that fucking asleep bro? People, and when I say people I mean the common human, not chronically online politically obsessive types, are over the corny virtue signaling bullshit. We just want to laugh and be friends with people again, even if they have different ideals than us.

You taking that obvious troll at his word to go on an anti-leftist rant is almost as embarrassing as the guy himself. I'm sure you know very well what the left is actually fighting for but you can't pass up an opportunity to bash the minority that still believes in a better future for everyone. My guess is that's because their existence makes your cynicism look like cowardice in the mirror and you can't bear the thought that if you were just a little more courageous, you'd be fighting alongside them.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: sizzle_chest on March 10, 2024, 05:52:41 AM
he tried to destroy tom knox's life and he makes videos doing nollie hardflip flyouts at the skatepark so I am done with him
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: realtalk66 on March 10, 2024, 06:26:38 AM
I'm a communist and I think Hasan is wack as fuck as are all streamers which means gifted hater is also wack as fuck. Streamers are basically the lowest common denominator entertainers who only exist because people are so isolated and desperate for connection so they form parasocial relationships with anyone they can. Gifted Hater certainly has some edgelord 4chan esque energy to him but he's smart enough to hide his power level so we will never know if he truly feels a certain way. Typing up paragraphs to defend Hasan a supposed Socialist/Communist who has hired prostitutes or at least a prostitute while traveling abroad and also has a close friend who's dad is CIA is pathetic. Stop defending your parasocial relationship and go read some theory.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: poopnutsupreme on March 10, 2024, 06:44:52 AM
I always assumed the GH vs Robert Neal beef was less around the jacket and more around GH being really into trains growing up. I have video evidence for my proof.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWM5ZNdWlqw&si=a6nbJcsK-7dj2b9t
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: thailand on March 10, 2024, 06:47:06 AM
Thanks to the internet we now get to hear homeless peoples political ramblings, how wonderful.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: addie pray on March 10, 2024, 06:54:01 AM
"identity politics" smh, this material dialectics right here

that phrase has a specific meaning which you're using incorrectly. this is all very far from material or dialectic analysis- you're doing TV criticism.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: KrisJolson on March 10, 2024, 07:03:50 AM
he tried to destroy tom knox's life and he makes videos doing nollie hardflip flyouts at the skatepark so I am done with him

his points about tom knox were so accurate though

Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: mindfuzz on March 10, 2024, 07:43:30 AM
he tried to destroy tom knox's life

No sane person would think this
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Post by: dallou on March 10, 2024, 08:16:23 AM
What a thread
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Post by: fernando the skater on March 10, 2024, 08:26:12 AM
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also, i don't want to have to type in MLA Standard soft-serving you guys philosophy lessons.  i get it, that you're not used to socialist philosopher types.  but what i do ask you to acknowledge is that i am very well-versed in this stuff and have very real experience and lots of it, dating back to OWS.  i have ties to things like the Black Panthers, i've touched the captured flags from East Germany.  i've led many protests.  and what i'm seeing, is that in spite of the fact that i like Gifted Hater, i'm seeing black skaters feeling a certain way about him and it's checking out on my end; that he is indeed providing fascist talking points.  i don't think it's intentional, but i think somewhere down the line they are sneaking into his diet of information (perhaps 4chan or something?) and that he is without a doubt the defacto tastemaker in skateboarding and thus regurgitating it back to us.  he runs our culture.

this should worry you.
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You are the quintessential "woke" dick head that thinks hes holier than thou in his outlook on life when in reality your as fucking clueless as the rest of us, just can't admit it.

Just get over it man. People are over the leftist crybaby bullshit. Y'all had a good run. Let it be known as well that I want public works, free health care, school, etc. You on the other hand want to bitch and moan and connect your dots like fucking charlie day out of its always sunny and get the kid canceled because you don't agree with a sticker on a laptop and the fact hes in a picture with someone who you again do not agree with politically.

There is this hyper bizarre irony of you leftist turds screaming and shouting about authoritarianism and fascism. The reality it is over the past decade the blue haired liberal arts major, I can't get a job cause I have a stupid degree and am in mad debt to a university but am going to blame the system not my bad life choice, has been the the most authoritarian and close to fascism. The unwavering cultural war they've set out on every tom dick and sally under the sun that doesn't conform to the gospel of the left is really old news my man.

Are you that fucking asleep bro? People, and when I say people I mean the common human, not chronically online politically obsessive types, are over the corny virtue signaling bullshit. We just want to laugh and be friends with people again, even if they have different ideals than us.

I taking the opposite side to whatever this guy thinks.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on March 10, 2024, 08:29:52 AM
Dropoutofhighschooltopileout
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Post by: Shtonk on March 10, 2024, 08:34:32 AM
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also, i don't want to have to type in MLA Standard soft-serving you guys philosophy lessons.  i get it, that you're not used to socialist philosopher types.  but what i do ask you to acknowledge is that i am very well-versed in this stuff and have very real experience and lots of it, dating back to OWS.  i have ties to things like the Black Panthers, i've touched the captured flags from East Germany.  i've led many protests.  and what i'm seeing, is that in spite of the fact that i like Gifted Hater, i'm seeing black skaters feeling a certain way about him and it's checking out on my end; that he is indeed providing fascist talking points.  i don't think it's intentional, but i think somewhere down the line they are sneaking into his diet of information (perhaps 4chan or something?) and that he is without a doubt the defacto tastemaker in skateboarding and thus regurgitating it back to us.  he runs our culture.

this should worry you.
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That's interesting. I've done all those things too. I actually know black skaters who think hes an amazing representation of skating and don't feel any type of way towards him at all.

You see how you're just saying shit, but not actually saying anything of value or substance or without the ability to completely refute. Anyone can give a call to authority and some hypothetical anecdote about "black" skaters. You're saying so much shit in this post about all these heavy topics, but aren't really saying a god damn thing that is undeniable. You're like my manager. Just talking and saying shit without ever making a digestible point.

you say you "have the numbers" to back up that we're all going "get us killed". Please enlighten us on exactly what you mean.

You are the quintessential "woke" dick head that thinks hes holier than thou in his outlook on life when in reality your as fucking clueless as the rest of us, just can't admit it.

Just get over it man. People are over the leftist crybaby bullshit. Y'all had a good run. Let it be known as well that I want public works, free health care, school, etc. You on the other hand want to bitch and moan and connect your dots like fucking charlie day out of its always sunny and get the kid canceled because you don't agree with a sticker on a laptop and the fact hes in a picture with someone who you again do not agree with politically.

There is this hyper bizarre irony of you leftist turds screaming and shouting about authoritarianism and fascism. The reality it is over the past decade the blue haired liberal arts major, I can't get a job cause I have a stupid degree and am in mad debt to a university but am going to blame the system not my bad life choice, has been the the most authoritarian and close to fascism. The unwavering cultural war they've set out on every tom dick and sally under the sun that doesn't conform to the gospel of the left is really old news my man.

Are you that fucking asleep bro? People, and when I say people I mean the common human, not chronically online politically obsessive types, are over the corny virtue signaling bullshit. We just want to laugh and be friends with people again, even if they have different ideals than us.
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You taking that obvious troll at his word to go on an anti-leftist rant is almost as embarrassing as the guy himself. I'm sure you know very well what the left is actually fighting for but you can't pass up an opportunity to bash the minority that still believes in a better future for everyone. My guess is that's because their existence makes your cynicism look like cowardice in the mirror and you can't bear the thought that if you were just a little more courageous, you'd be fighting alongside them.
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Are you illiterate? I state I believe in public works, i.e. socialist programs. But yeah are you so shocked I do not support the shit minority that make achieving those things all the more difficult.

What makes you so sure this is a troll? Is it impossible for such an idiot to share your ideals? Again another corn ball inflating the issue and making it something it's not.

You seem to imply that just because you believe your ideals will create a "better future for everyone" then it is above criticism from a douche bag like me sitting on a forum having his Sunday coffee. And that my friend is where you fail.

Your shit stinks dickhead just like rest of us

Sorry bro, I forgot that:

- wanting public health insurance makes you left wing

- late stage capitalism will be fixed by introducing a couple of programs that have been the bare minimum standard in other places for about a century now

- arrogant leftists are the reason why the world is run by psychopathic slavers
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Newphone on March 10, 2024, 08:43:29 AM
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Mainstream/commercial culture can't be separated from the social norms of its audience/market, including the underlying social inequalities and biases that make up that culture.
Perspectives that consistently take into account underlying, systemic isms, are by definition a more radical proposition.
I think expecting an egalitarian perspective in a podcast with mainstream aspirations, is like believing in corporate responsibility, ie. at best a gamble and likely a waste of time.
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i do agree with this and it's why i never posted anything til i learned dudes sellin political merch.  you sell political merch, you subvert this argument
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is it really political merch tho ? seems to me more likely that he is trolling a youtube celebrity he finds corny regarless of their political leanings, like he is also currently doing with moistcritikal - another corny youtube celeb

they're all corny only difference is gh is pretty self aware of his corniness and niche market in comparison to these guys

your opening paragraph answers your own question
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when he discusses Hasan he literally recites the "champagne socialist" argument used in early-1900s East Germany though.  it manifests into kids slapping that rhetoric everywhere and invalidating one of the few anti-fascist voices we have.  poor people sure as shit dont get to have a voice like that
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hasan is the living definition of a 'champagne socialist'

you're jumping to the defence of a youtube millionaire
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He’s mentioned in the definition of the term “champagne socialist” on Wikipedia in fact.  I just happened to look it up as OP was mentioning it so frequently and was amused to find him being called one in the short blurb on the use of this term in the US.

It seems like something that Hassan might be trying to get in front of by dismissing it as “(empty) rhetoric”, but GH is certainly not the first or last to accuse him of being hypocritical. 

I do find GH to be a bit too edgelord/online/right adjacent for my liking at times, but don’t think this is a great example.
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bro ngl you're a dumbass, you should work on that.  must notta seen the Bernie buzz in 2016 smh.  libs espousing champagne-socialism rhetoric has haunted all anti-capitalist discussion ever

like, you can put this on a hat:

(https://cdn.shoplightspeed.com/shops/608710/files/54309639/sci-fi-fantasy-neoliberal-hellscape-hat-black.jpg)

and still make a livelihood for yourself.  you can criticize capitalism and even own food and shelter, believe it or not.  yall mfs gonna get us killed bein this dumb, im not even kidding i got the numbers to back that up

this why we cant have GH spreadin that shit, cause now i gotta provide training wheels to lazy minds all day

So Jerry sells a 50$ hat with a dumb slogan you like and he’s one of the good guys who “gets it”?  I assume he’s sat at tables with GH who’s sat at tables with “fascists” but that’s ok this time?  So Jerry can support your enemy (GH) but again, if you say the right thing (on a hat in this case) you’re judged for your words, not your actions or financial decisions.  Similar to your boundless defense of Hassan, you seem to literally advocate for virtue signaling here.

With Bernie I don’t think the champagne socialist calls were coming from liberals as much as conservatives and independents, and for valid optic criticisms.  Bernie is trying to convince people to give up some opulence and excess for the greater good of all, most people would like to see some continuity in action from the person making that claim.  Communism has a rich history of people advocating it for everyone but themselves at the top that has certainly eroded trust that people at the top will participate fairly. 

Also 1200$ distressed pants are indefensible waste of resources if you’re a capitalist as well, but if you’re talking about helping others while you waste that on your vanity, that’s pretty scummy.

Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Democratic Republic Of Mongo on March 10, 2024, 08:53:36 AM
And he’d have gotten away with it too, if it weren’t for you meddling kids.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: eastcoastbarbarian on March 10, 2024, 09:01:18 AM
All left wing dorks can suck my dick
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: layzieyez on March 10, 2024, 09:19:30 AM
I just love political discourse on this message board because I can easily identify the same person(s) trying to get around their ban again because they can’t help themselves.

OP is fully entitled to his opinions. I honestly hope you are ok. I, too, have been homeless before, but I know times are tougher right now with the amount of inflation in the housing/rental market. Keep your chin up.

I’ve never watched any GH content ever and it looks like that was the right choice.

The only skater on YT I watch is Asta btw.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: MyLegHurts on March 10, 2024, 09:36:20 AM
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First I was gonna tell OP to take their fake woke identity politics bullshit back to skate twitter and concoct trashy fictional outrage plots with the likes of Kyle Beachy over there. Then I thought maybe they're not doing well with all the backtracking, contradicting and skewed takes on reality. Now I'm finding it most likely this is some false flag counterinsurgence from the Tim Pool camp in expectation of the GH takedown vid.

Not just against GH but also Ricky Glaser who iirc has clearly denied working for Tim Pool but somehow this is presented as fact here? Update appreciated if I've missed out on any developments here tho.

Anybody who thinks Hasan Piker is "the only antifascist voice we have" is more terminally internet brained than GH will ever be. And lol at the absolute units on here mistaking Daniel Radcliffe for Hitler.
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bold of you to assume i'm a "fake-woke-identity-politics-bullshit" liberal.  i'm anti-capitalist you idiot, and i'm extremely well-versed.  you will not catch me slipping or "backtracking"; i'm not a reactionary like you; i have specific philosophical texts i work off (Hegel, Deleuze, Marx).

as i said, Ricky Glaser is a Tim Pool associate.  sus of you to try to subvert my remark by twisting it into acting like i said he's Tim Pool's employee.

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1) now name me a single anti-fascist voice in the mainstream eye other than Hasan.  and i don't mean fascist in the reactionary way you understand it of people showing up at drag shows or whatever the fuck with guns.  i mean the systemic fascism that economic liberalism both theoretically and anecdotally slips into (as we are witnessing), where the rich get richer/rarer and the working class becomes homeless and made to be criminals/die while useful pawns like you rush to defend the very system causing it.

2) also, name one point where i contradicted myself.  a single one.

do not shy from these two things i'm asking of you.  i typically don't debate because it's wasteful as a food fight,  but i've an audience and i can already tell from the language you are using and your username that you are an easy target and that i can easily embarrass the shit out of you with little ontological toll.  and this has nothing to do with my ego, i just find it infuriating that you can so casually dismiss antifascist perspectives during a literal genocide and homelessness epidemic.

dumbass lib.  "identity politics" smh, this material dialectics right here

There's a lot to unpack here. I would say that I am likely sympathetic to many of your points regarding critique of capitalism. Well, at least, I would think so, but you have not really provided substantive critque of capitalism. Your lived experience matters, however, and that is good enough for me.

It is curious that you cite Hegel, Marx, and Deluze as philosophers helping you to form your opinions on anti-capitalist activism. Although, as I will admit, anti-capitalist philosophy is too beholden to academic enslavement, I think it's important to note that those philosophers, despite popular rhetoric, are deeply problematic for trying to proclaim Marxist theory in the present state. How are you approaching these figures? Because in many respects, they are at odds with one another. Deluze's poststructural nonsense is just that and is predicated on an indifference to the subject. Hegel's teleology, amongst other things, has been disastrous as it has been understood, and this critique was even known by Marx who wrote in his Economic Manuscripts(1844) as such. Dialectical Marxism is a failure, in many senses, because it reduces the complexities of all things, most particularly human experiences -- such as your lived experience -- to a dualism. Any philosophy that is fixed in duality, rather than plurality made sense in unity is destined to be reductionistic. I think there are many more compelling voices that use Marxist theory to speak to our current circumstances. Many of whom, I add, are very critical of the figures you mentioned. See especially many feminist critiques of Marxist theory, or religious critiques of Marxist theory. There's a great historian, Eugene Mcaraher, who wrote a tome "The Enchantments of Mammon: How Capitalism Became the Religion of Modernity" that sort of seeks to save Marxism from Marx.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: rickdizzo on March 10, 2024, 10:05:27 AM
one must assume marx would’ve set up his patreon and made video part reviews with his webcam
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Oh yeahhhhhhh! on March 10, 2024, 10:08:25 AM
Champagne socialism<Champagne supernova
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Post by: Democratic Republic Of Mongo on March 10, 2024, 10:29:57 AM
No Sex In The Champagne Socialism Room.

That’s for the Limosine Liberals only.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: parasocial skater on March 10, 2024, 10:35:29 AM
Krooked hilary
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Made In China on March 10, 2024, 10:54:25 AM
some of y’all really going to bat for this mid white boy
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Frank Sobotka on March 10, 2024, 10:56:30 AM
The very existence of this thread is ridiculous. Weaponising racism because you don't like a nerd on YouTube is dickhead behaviour.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: eastcoastbarbarian on March 10, 2024, 11:00:10 AM
some of y’all really going to bat for this mid white boy
We all know what you look like, dont even try to act hard dude
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: mj23 on March 10, 2024, 11:30:59 AM
When you look into the abyss, the abyss looks into you

For Joa, the abyss is YouTube. And it is a dark, bottomless abyss of sickness
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Can he read on March 10, 2024, 11:45:13 AM
There is zero room for facism or racism in skateboarding.

White people disregarding people of colors thoughts and opinions as irrelevant or hysterical about these things is overwhelmingly problematic.

There aren’t many cultures like skateboarding where so many different socioeconomic backgrounds share a common ground, so when the heavy shit from real life starts to bleed into our useless wooden toy banter, I think it’s imperative that we don’t mirror the outside world and immediately come to the defense of one of our public figures (especially as prominent as GH is) without properly analyzing what is being discussed or brought to our attention.

Nobody is above analysis or speculation. Joa is a clever kid but also presumably inexperienced with cultures/people outside of the internet. I don’t think he fully understands that not everything can just be a meme or taken lightly, but I too may be underestimating the depths of depravity that can exist inside of people who I may consider charismatic.

I will wait to see how he addresses this before forming my own conclusions but I do have my ears open to the people who may be affected by his content differently.

Also fuck Ricky Glaser

Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: SkatingOnNeptune on March 10, 2024, 11:48:30 AM
Thinking a black guy's jacket looks goofy is now racist. I will never use my thin white lips to express an opinion again.
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Post by: Eric Dolphy on March 10, 2024, 11:52:06 AM
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We all know what you look like, dont even try to act hard dude
Post a fit tough guy
You cant be full left wing and still be funny. Ive never met a funny leftist, all they do is suck the air out of everything
You can suck the air outta deez nuts
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Rick Trapasso on March 10, 2024, 12:18:46 PM
The white guilt and self hatred are off the charts on SLAP.

I hope you all can find peace within yourselves soon.

I would be curious to know if there is any correlation between having these extreme feelings and mental illness/taking behavioral medication.

I sincerely wish the best for everyone and I don't think hating people for their skin color is best for anyone. Seems like there is a lot of that going on here. Mostly towards whites if I'm being honest.

I'll definitely get kooked for this, but that's just the way it seems from my phone screen.





Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Can he read on March 10, 2024, 12:23:25 PM
The white guilt and self hatred are off the charts on SLAP.

I hope you all can find peace within yourselves soon.

I would be curious to know if there is any correlation between having these extreme feelings and mental illness/taking behavioral medication.

I sincerely wish the best for everyone and I don't think hating people for their skin color is best for anyone. Seems like there is a lot of that going on here. Mostly towards whites if I'm being honest.

I'll definitely get kooked for this, but that's just the way it seems from my phone screen.

White people need to hold each other accountable. If that looks like guilt or self hatred to you I think that says a lot about your lack of self awareness and understanding.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: SkatingOnNeptune on March 10, 2024, 12:27:27 PM
Yeah, we really gotta hold each other accountable for laughing at people's goofy fashion choices.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: ejazzle on March 10, 2024, 12:27:56 PM
This thread is one of the biggest bunts in the history of this forum. Congratulations.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: JANUS on March 10, 2024, 12:30:08 PM
So which member of the saltine delegation will be tasked with reigning in Goofted Hooter?
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Can he read on March 10, 2024, 12:31:44 PM
Yeah, we really gotta hold each other accountable for laughing at people's goofy fashion choices.

If that fashion choice is representative of a culture that you don’t belong to, then yes. I know that concept is probably ludicrous to someone like you but consider the fact that you might not be the most intelligent specimen

If nothing else this thread may be more revealing about the biases and beliefs of the users I’ve been interacting with. At least there’s that.
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Post by: Rick Trapasso on March 10, 2024, 12:34:56 PM
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The white guilt and self hatred are off the charts on SLAP.

I hope you all can find peace within yourselves soon.

I would be curious to know if there is any correlation between having these extreme feelings and mental illness/taking behavioral medication.

I sincerely wish the best for everyone and I don't think hating people for their skin color is best for anyone. Seems like there is a lot of that going on here. Mostly towards whites if I'm being honest.

I'll definitely get kooked for this, but that's just the way it seems from my phone screen.
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White people need to hold each other accountable. If that looks like guilt or self hatred to you I think that says a lot about your lack of self awareness and understanding.

Nope, that's not how I feel at all. Lol

I'd be more than willing to have a reasonable discussion in good faith about how I actually feel if that seemed like a possibility.

I have about zero hope that would ever happen on SLAP though haha, which is totally fine of course. That's not really what this place is good/meant for.

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Post by: SkatingOnNeptune on March 10, 2024, 12:35:11 PM
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Yeah, we really gotta hold each other accountable for laughing at people's goofy fashion choices.
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If that fashion choice is representative of a culture that you don’t belong to, then yes. I know that concept is probably ludicrous to someone like you but consider the fact that you might not be the most intelligent specimen

Yeah, I'm sure that Hot Wheels jackets have as important a place in black culture as turbans do for Sikhs.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Can he read on March 10, 2024, 12:37:19 PM
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If that fashion choice is representative of a culture that you don’t belong to, then yes. I know that concept is probably ludicrous to someone like you but consider the fact that you might not be the most intelligent specimen
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Yeah, I'm sure that Hot Wheels jackets have as important a place in black culture as turbans do for Sikhs.

(https://i.postimg.cc/mZ6C9bnR/IMG-0902.jpg)
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Can he read on March 10, 2024, 12:38:58 PM
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The white guilt and self hatred are off the charts on SLAP.

I hope you all can find peace within yourselves soon.

I would be curious to know if there is any correlation between having these extreme feelings and mental illness/taking behavioral medication.

I sincerely wish the best for everyone and I don't think hating people for their skin color is best for anyone. Seems like there is a lot of that going on here. Mostly towards whites if I'm being honest.

I'll definitely get kooked for this, but that's just the way it seems from my phone screen.
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White people need to hold each other accountable. If that looks like guilt or self hatred to you I think that says a lot about your lack of self awareness and understanding.
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Nope, that's not how I feel at all. Lol

I'd be more than willing to have a reasonable discussion in good faith about how I actually feel if that seemed like a possibility.

I have about zero hope that would ever happen on SLAP though haha, which is totally fine of course. That's not really what this place is good/meant for.

Sure sounded like you felt that way. Maybe you should communicate your beliefs in a way that translates better instead of copping out and blaming the forum
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Newphone on March 10, 2024, 12:46:19 PM
I may be an idiot, as is often suggest on here, but am I alone in thinking there’s a better than 0% chance that the hot wheels jacket was a brand ambassador sponsorship?  It’s a multibillion dollar toy company, and he’s an instagram influencer as well as skateboarder, if he’s not getting paid, he should be.

Is hot wheels especially big in black culture (disproportionate to its popularity in the overall American culture) and therefore something that is sacrosanct?

To restate I’m not the biggest fan of GH, and can see how the accusation that he goes after minorities disproportionately could be made in good faith, just curious about the hot wheels specifically.
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Post by: Rick Trapasso on March 10, 2024, 12:47:12 PM
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The white guilt and self hatred are off the charts on SLAP.

I hope you all can find peace within yourselves soon.

I would be curious to know if there is any correlation between having these extreme feelings and mental illness/taking behavioral medication.

I sincerely wish the best for everyone and I don't think hating people for their skin color is best for anyone. Seems like there is a lot of that going on here. Mostly towards whites if I'm being honest.

I'll definitely get kooked for this, but that's just the way it seems from my phone screen.
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White people need to hold each other accountable. If that looks like guilt or self hatred to you I think that says a lot about your lack of self awareness and understanding.
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Nope, that's not how I feel at all. Lol

I'd be more than willing to have a reasonable discussion in good faith about how I actually feel if that seemed like a possibility.

I have about zero hope that would ever happen on SLAP though haha, which is totally fine of course. That's not really what this place is good/meant for.
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Sure sounded like you felt that way. Maybe you should communicate your beliefs in a way that translates better instead of copping out and blaming the forum

I think I'm doing an alright job at expressing myself.

Since you are so quick to reference and analyze the bias of others, I think it would only be fair for you to examine your own bias with the same amount of scrutiny.

For example, you made several negative assumptions about me and my opinions even though my original message made multiple points about finding peace, not hating based on skin color, and general concern for the well-being of users.

Really seems like I could say anything that wasn't completely agreeing with you and you would've had your mind made up about me immediately.

I'm not a fan of that kind of thinking/communication. But you do you man.

Sincerely hope it works out for you.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: eastcoastbarbarian on March 10, 2024, 12:54:21 PM
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Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Rick Trapasso on March 10, 2024, 12:57:23 PM
I may be an idiot, as is often suggest on here, but am I alone in thinking there’s a better than 0% chance that the hot wheels jacket was a brand ambassador sponsorship?  It’s a multibillion dollar toy company, and he’s an instagram influencer as well as skateboarder, if he’s not getting paid, he should be.

Is hot wheels especially big in black culture (disproportionate to its popularity in the overall American culture) and therefore something that is sacrosanct?

To restate I’m not the biggest fan of GH, and can see how the accusation that he goes after minorities disproportionately could be made in good faith, just curious about the hot wheels specifically.

The Nascar/motocross style stuff is just hot right now in the street wear scene. Brand logos plastered everywhere and such. It has way more to do with consumer culture than anything race related. Robert Neal has a stockX sponsorship, models, and tends to be pretty on trend. So this is par for the course for him.

Pretty ironic though since NASCAR and motocross are two things that are HEAVILY dominated by whites. Not sure if anyone has ever considered those activities part of black culture lol.

If I'm playing the devil's advocate here, wouldn't something like this be considered cultural appropriation by many if the tables were turned and it was a white person wearing things from an activity that was dominated by black people?

I do not feel this way personally, I think Robert is completely entitled to wear whatever he wants. I couldn't pull off most of this really flashy stuff personally, so it's just not for me.

He's clearly doing something right if he's getting modeling gigs.
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Post by: Can he read on March 10, 2024, 01:04:21 PM
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The white guilt and self hatred are off the charts on SLAP.

I hope you all can find peace within yourselves soon.

I would be curious to know if there is any correlation between having these extreme feelings and mental illness/taking behavioral medication.

I sincerely wish the best for everyone and I don't think hating people for their skin color is best for anyone. Seems like there is a lot of that going on here. Mostly towards whites if I'm being honest.

I'll definitely get kooked for this, but that's just the way it seems from my phone screen.
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White people need to hold each other accountable. If that looks like guilt or self hatred to you I think that says a lot about your lack of self awareness and understanding.
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Nope, that's not how I feel at all. Lol

I'd be more than willing to have a reasonable discussion in good faith about how I actually feel if that seemed like a possibility.

I have about zero hope that would ever happen on SLAP though haha, which is totally fine of course. That's not really what this place is good/meant for.
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Sure sounded like you felt that way. Maybe you should communicate your beliefs in a way that translates better instead of copping out and blaming the forum
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I think I'm doing an alright job at expressing myself.

Since you are so quick to reference and analyze the bias of others, I think it would only be fair for you to examine your own bias with the same amount of scrutiny.

For example, you made several negative assumptions about me and my opinions even though my original message made multiple points about finding peace, not hating based on skin color, and general concern for the well-being of users.

Really seems like I could say anything that wasn't completely agreeing with you and you would've had your mind made up about me immediately.

I'm not a fan of that kind of thinking/communication. But you do you man.

Sincerely hope it works out for you.

idk if dog whistle is even the right term when you’re blatantly throwing around rhetoric like “white guilt” and “self hatred” when referring to a discussion analyzing potential racism. However you wanna dance around that is not gonna surprise me but that coded language is the first step in indoctrination used by white supremacy recruiters
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Shtonk on March 10, 2024, 01:05:38 PM
The way this one youtubing dude's statements are taken out of context for the sake of moral judgement is mind boggling on here. Like people literally calling him a conspiracy theorist for the "covid's fake" joke that he DECLARED A JOKE multiple times after. Or the thing about Robert Neal where it clearly wasn't the Hot Wheels jacket in itself (questions about black culture and Hot Wheels jackets aside) but the contextual fact that Robert Neal was performing embarrassingly at a skate contest and was playing that off by being over the top clowny and turning the entire thing into a catwalk fashion performance. Is underperforming and compensating with peacocky behaviour also a part of black culture? Is killing your skate career in order to become a model or a rapper? All this shit is a direct result of the unholy crossover of fashion and skate worlds and we have Supreme to blame for that which was founded by, drumroll, a fucking white dude!
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Post by: Rick Trapasso on March 10, 2024, 01:11:53 PM
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The white guilt and self hatred are off the charts on SLAP.

I hope you all can find peace within yourselves soon.

I would be curious to know if there is any correlation between having these extreme feelings and mental illness/taking behavioral medication.

I sincerely wish the best for everyone and I don't think hating people for their skin color is best for anyone. Seems like there is a lot of that going on here. Mostly towards whites if I'm being honest.

I'll definitely get kooked for this, but that's just the way it seems from my phone screen.
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White people need to hold each other accountable. If that looks like guilt or self hatred to you I think that says a lot about your lack of self awareness and understanding.
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Nope, that's not how I feel at all. Lol

I'd be more than willing to have a reasonable discussion in good faith about how I actually feel if that seemed like a possibility.

I have about zero hope that would ever happen on SLAP though haha, which is totally fine of course. That's not really what this place is good/meant for.
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Sure sounded like you felt that way. Maybe you should communicate your beliefs in a way that translates better instead of copping out and blaming the forum
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I think I'm doing an alright job at expressing myself.

Since you are so quick to reference and analyze the bias of others, I think it would only be fair for you to examine your own bias with the same amount of scrutiny.

For example, you made several negative assumptions about me and my opinions even though my original message made multiple points about finding peace, not hating based on skin color, and general concern for the well-being of users.

Really seems like I could say anything that wasn't completely agreeing with you and you would've had your mind made up about me immediately.

I'm not a fan of that kind of thinking/communication. But you do you man.

Sincerely hope it works out for you.
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idk if dog whistle is even the right term when you’re blatantly throwing around rhetoric like “white guilt” and “self hatred” when referring to a discussion analyzing potential racism. However you wanna dance around that is not gonna surprise me but that coded language is the first step in indoctrination used by white supremacy recruiters

I've been nothing but genuine, honest, and direct with you.

But if this if how you choose to perceive my words, there is truly no chance to have a discussion in good faith here.

It's almost like that's what I told you in my reply to your initial criticism of my first post.....

Your actions today have been eerily predictable.

I'm gonna go on a walk with my wife now and enjoy the rest of my Sunday.

I hope you can find some joy in yours as well!
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Bumba on March 10, 2024, 01:12:20 PM
Let me quote Gifted Hater:

"Street League Select Series, Carl Aitkins looked like a guy that worked at Hot Dog on a Stick. Robert Neal literally wore a Hot Wheels jacket. Both of these guys were so focused on looking drippy, they both managed to put up the holy grail, exodia of scores, in the best trick section which is 5 zeros"

If you think this is racist or has any roots in racism please re-evaluate yourself
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The white guilt and self hatred are off the charts on SLAP.

I hope you all can find peace within yourselves soon.

I would be curious to know if there is any correlation between having these extreme feelings and mental illness/taking behavioral medication.

I sincerely wish the best for everyone and I don't think hating people for their skin color is best for anyone. Seems like there is a lot of that going on here. Mostly towards whites if I'm being honest.

I'll definitely get kooked for this, but that's just the way it seems from my phone screen.
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White people need to hold each other accountable. If that looks like guilt or self hatred to you I think that says a lot about your lack of self awareness and understanding.
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Nope, that's not how I feel at all. Lol

I'd be more than willing to have a reasonable discussion in good faith about how I actually feel if that seemed like a possibility.

I have about zero hope that would ever happen on SLAP though haha, which is totally fine of course. That's not really what this place is good/meant for.
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Sure sounded like you felt that way. Maybe you should communicate your beliefs in a way that translates better instead of copping out and blaming the forum
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I think I'm doing an alright job at expressing myself.

Since you are so quick to reference and analyze the bias of others, I think it would only be fair for you to examine your own bias with the same amount of scrutiny.

For example, you made several negative assumptions about me and my opinions even though my original message made multiple points about finding peace, not hating based on skin color, and general concern for the well-being of users.

Really seems like I could say anything that wasn't completely agreeing with you and you would've had your mind made up about me immediately.

I'm not a fan of that kind of thinking/communication. But you do you man.

Sincerely hope it works out for you.
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idk if dog whistle is even the right term when you’re blatantly throwing around rhetoric like “white guilt” and “self hatred” when referring to a discussion analyzing potential racism. However you wanna dance around that is not gonna surprise me but that coded language is the first step in indoctrination used by white supremacy recruiters
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I've been nothing but genuine, honest, and direct with you.

But if this if how you choose to perceive my words, there is truly no chance to have a discussion in good faith here.

It's almost like that's what I told you in my reply to your initial criticism of my first post.....

Your actions today have been eerily predictable.

Oh I don’t doubt you’ve been honest, it’s what you’re saying that I have a problem with. You can try to insulate yourself by predicting that your blatant ignorance will be met with hostility, because the words you are using here are indicative of a racist mindset, that’s obvious. I believe that you believe that white people are overcompensating because of guilt and self hatred, and are in fact the ones being persecuted. Everything you’ve said is a key point in alt right ideology and there’s no other way to spin that. Do the tucker Carlson thing all you want, you’ve made yourself very clear
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: somedudefromnj on March 10, 2024, 01:20:27 PM
Let me quote Gifted Hater:

"Street League Select Series, Carl Aitkins looked like a guy that worked at Hot Dog on a Stick. Robert Neal literally wore a Hot Wheels jacket. Both of these guys were so focused on looking drippy, they both managed to put up the holy grail, exodia of scores, in the best trick section which is 5 zeros"

If you think this is racist or has any roots in racism please re-evaluate yourself

I dont know anything about GH, but as someone who loves watching both Robert Neal and Carl Aikens skate I think he was just bummed to see them skate the contest the way they did. He's probably a fan of them himself who was hoping to see them fuck shit up or something

Are his videos worth watching? I watched a little bit of his bts sci fi trip uploads but idk if I can handle intricate breakdowns of some bullshit
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: SkatingOnNeptune on March 10, 2024, 01:35:33 PM
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Let me quote Gifted Hater:

"Street League Select Series, Carl Aitkins looked like a guy that worked at Hot Dog on a Stick. Robert Neal literally wore a Hot Wheels jacket. Both of these guys were so focused on looking drippy, they both managed to put up the holy grail, exodia of scores, in the best trick section which is 5 zeros"

If you think this is racist or has any roots in racism please re-evaluate yourself
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I dont know anything about GH, but as someone who loves watching both Robert Neal and Carl Aikens skate I think he was just bummed to see them skate the contest the way they did. He's probably a fan of them himself who was hoping to see them fuck shit up or something

Are his videos worth watching? I watched a little bit of his bts sci fi trip uploads but idk if I can handle intricate breakdowns of some bullshit

He occasionally says some funny shit but overall not worth investing a ton of time into.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Hyliannightmare on March 10, 2024, 01:42:52 PM
He didn't clear the tablre and the hot wheels jacket was roast worthy because I think he clowned him for caring more about putting the fit togetherthan putting a line togetherfor the contest. He made fun of the only pro out of my country,  manny santiago,  2 times iirc. Don't be so soft
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Post by: realtalk66 on March 10, 2024, 01:55:51 PM
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Let me quote Gifted Hater:

"Street League Select Series, Carl Aitkins looked like a guy that worked at Hot Dog on a Stick. Robert Neal literally wore a Hot Wheels jacket. Both of these guys were so focused on looking drippy, they both managed to put up the holy grail, exodia of scores, in the best trick section which is 5 zeros"

If you think this is racist or has any roots in racism please re-evaluate yourself
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I dont know anything about GH, but as someone who loves watching both Robert Neal and Carl Aikens skate I think he was just bummed to see them skate the contest the way they did. He's probably a fan of them himself who was hoping to see them fuck shit up or something

Are his videos worth watching? I watched a little bit of his bts sci fi trip uploads but idk if I can handle intricate breakdowns of some bullshit

On his main channel he makes like 1 or 2 20 - 30 minute videos a month that make for good background noise and are decently interesting and occasionally funny. Anybody who watches his streams or pays for his patreon is a nerd ass who needs to get some real friends.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: SatanicPanic on March 10, 2024, 02:05:08 PM
I don’t really have an opinion for or against here but I did think it was funny to mock a dude wearing a kids toy jacket while complaining about him not paying enough attention to the kids toy he was riding.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: jerkass on March 10, 2024, 02:09:36 PM
I don't know what this is about because I don't look at youtube and i don't like racists but I do love hot wheels. where do I cop the jacket
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Post by: Newphone on March 10, 2024, 02:09:48 PM
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I may be an idiot, as is often suggest on here, but am I alone in thinking there’s a better than 0% chance that the hot wheels jacket was a brand ambassador sponsorship?  It’s a multibillion dollar toy company, and he’s an instagram influencer as well as skateboarder, if he’s not getting paid, he should be.

Is hot wheels especially big in black culture (disproportionate to its popularity in the overall American culture) and therefore something that is sacrosanct?

To restate I’m not the biggest fan of GH, and can see how the accusation that he goes after minorities disproportionately could be made in good faith, just curious about the hot wheels specifically.
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The question for me is if it's cool for dudes to borrow statement pieces from their homies if they wanna look good for an event? Because I think that's what happened with the Hot Wheels jacket.

Recently, there was an edit with Zion in the Hot Wheels jacket that I read as a clap back to GH. But then I remembered that Zion actually rode for Hot Wheels in 2018 or so. Pretty sure the jacket is actually his and what we have here is a travelling jacket situation.

I completely forgot that they make little skateboard toys too.  Like a cross between fingerboards and hot wheels, and actually use pros names.  I think my kid has a cabalaro one.


I bet he did get paid for the jacket, and if he did it changes the whole “fashion” aspect.  Skaters should be trying to make money from any reasonable avenue they can, and especially if they aren’t on top of the contest circuit.  It’s not like Burnett is gonna share some of that sweet, sweet thrasher money.
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Post by: InkkeACAB on March 10, 2024, 02:12:14 PM
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I may be an idiot, as is often suggest on here, but am I alone in thinking there’s a better than 0% chance that the hot wheels jacket was a brand ambassador sponsorship?  It’s a multibillion dollar toy company, and he’s an instagram influencer as well as skateboarder, if he’s not getting paid, he should be.

Is hot wheels especially big in black culture (disproportionate to its popularity in the overall American culture) and therefore something that is sacrosanct?

To restate I’m not the biggest fan of GH, and can see how the accusation that he goes after minorities disproportionately could be made in good faith, just curious about the hot wheels specifically.
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The question for me is if it's cool for dudes to borrow statement pieces from their homies if they wanna look good for an event? Because I think that's what happened with the Hot Wheels jacket.

Recently, there was an edit with Zion in the Hot Wheels jacket that I read as a clap back to GH. But then I remembered that Zion actually rode for Hot Wheels in 2018 or so. Pretty sure the jacket is actually his and what we have here is a travelling jacket situation.
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I completely forgot that they make little skateboard toys too.  Like a cross between fingerboards and hot wheels, and actually use pros names.  I think my kid has a cabalaro one.


I bet he did get paid for the jacket, and if he did it changes the whole “fashion” aspect.  Skaters should be trying to make money from any reasonable avenue they can, and especially if they aren’t on top of the contest circuit.  It’s not like Burnett is gonna share some of that sweet, sweet thrasher money.

its a guess x hot wheels jacket for sale at urban outfitters for $80
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Rick Trapasso on March 10, 2024, 02:29:18 PM
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The white guilt and self hatred are off the charts on SLAP.

I hope you all can find peace within yourselves soon.

I would be curious to know if there is any correlation between having these extreme feelings and mental illness/taking behavioral medication.

I sincerely wish the best for everyone and I don't think hating people for their skin color is best for anyone. Seems like there is a lot of that going on here. Mostly towards whites if I'm being honest.

I'll definitely get kooked for this, but that's just the way it seems from my phone screen.
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White people need to hold each other accountable. If that looks like guilt or self hatred to you I think that says a lot about your lack of self awareness and understanding.
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Nope, that's not how I feel at all. Lol

I'd be more than willing to have a reasonable discussion in good faith about how I actually feel if that seemed like a possibility.

I have about zero hope that would ever happen on SLAP though haha, which is totally fine of course. That's not really what this place is good/meant for.
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Sure sounded like you felt that way. Maybe you should communicate your beliefs in a way that translates better instead of copping out and blaming the forum
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I think I'm doing an alright job at expressing myself.

Since you are so quick to reference and analyze the bias of others, I think it would only be fair for you to examine your own bias with the same amount of scrutiny.

For example, you made several negative assumptions about me and my opinions even though my original message made multiple points about finding peace, not hating based on skin color, and general concern for the well-being of users.

Really seems like I could say anything that wasn't completely agreeing with you and you would've had your mind made up about me immediately.

I'm not a fan of that kind of thinking/communication. But you do you man.

Sincerely hope it works out for you.
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idk if dog whistle is even the right term when you’re blatantly throwing around rhetoric like “white guilt” and “self hatred” when referring to a discussion analyzing potential racism. However you wanna dance around that is not gonna surprise me but that coded language is the first step in indoctrination used by white supremacy recruiters
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I've been nothing but genuine, honest, and direct with you.

But if this if how you choose to perceive my words, there is truly no chance to have a discussion in good faith here.

It's almost like that's what I told you in my reply to your initial criticism of my first post.....

Your actions today have been eerily predictable.
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Oh I don’t doubt you’ve been honest, it’s what you’re saying that I have a problem with. You can try to insulate yourself by predicting that your blatant ignorance will be met with hostility, because the words you are using here are indicative of a racist mindset, that’s obvious. I believe that you believe that white people are overcompensating because of guilt and self hatred, and are in fact the ones being persecuted. Everything you’ve said is a key point in alt right ideology and there’s no other way to spin that. Do the tucker Carlson thing all you want, you’ve made yourself very clear

Nope, wrong again. That's not how I feel at all. But it's clear me telling you that won't mean anything to you. Your mind was made up about me from your very first reply. I'm not one of these people that thinks whiteness is under attack or whatever the mainstream right wing fear propaganda is right now.

How many times do you need to be wrong before looking inward?

You are so lost in this cycle of rage that it has become impossible for you to know when someone is just speaking plainly and with earnest intent.

It must be "coded language" or "dog whistling" when someone opposes you in any way.

YOU and your almighty wisdom couldn't possibly be wrong about anything. Lol.

Please get some help man, that type of paranoia and lack of self reflection is flat out unhealthy.

I truly wish you the best.

Also, lol @ the tucker comparison. That dude is wild, I have no idea how what I did translates to that. That dude hypes up right wingers like Hasan hypes up leftists, they're two flavors of the same personality. If you really knew me and knew my views I feel like you would find that comparison as funny as I do.

Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Can he read on March 10, 2024, 02:34:22 PM
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The white guilt and self hatred are off the charts on SLAP.

I hope you all can find peace within yourselves soon.

I would be curious to know if there is any correlation between having these extreme feelings and mental illness/taking behavioral medication.

I sincerely wish the best for everyone and I don't think hating people for their skin color is best for anyone. Seems like there is a lot of that going on here. Mostly towards whites if I'm being honest.

I'll definitely get kooked for this, but that's just the way it seems from my phone screen.
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White people need to hold each other accountable. If that looks like guilt or self hatred to you I think that says a lot about your lack of self awareness and understanding.
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Nope, that's not how I feel at all. Lol

I'd be more than willing to have a reasonable discussion in good faith about how I actually feel if that seemed like a possibility.

I have about zero hope that would ever happen on SLAP though haha, which is totally fine of course. That's not really what this place is good/meant for.
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Sure sounded like you felt that way. Maybe you should communicate your beliefs in a way that translates better instead of copping out and blaming the forum
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I think I'm doing an alright job at expressing myself.

Since you are so quick to reference and analyze the bias of others, I think it would only be fair for you to examine your own bias with the same amount of scrutiny.

For example, you made several negative assumptions about me and my opinions even though my original message made multiple points about finding peace, not hating based on skin color, and general concern for the well-being of users.

Really seems like I could say anything that wasn't completely agreeing with you and you would've had your mind made up about me immediately.

I'm not a fan of that kind of thinking/communication. But you do you man.

Sincerely hope it works out for you.
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idk if dog whistle is even the right term when you’re blatantly throwing around rhetoric like “white guilt” and “self hatred” when referring to a discussion analyzing potential racism. However you wanna dance around that is not gonna surprise me but that coded language is the first step in indoctrination used by white supremacy recruiters
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I've been nothing but genuine, honest, and direct with you.

But if this if how you choose to perceive my words, there is truly no chance to have a discussion in good faith here.

It's almost like that's what I told you in my reply to your initial criticism of my first post.....

Your actions today have been eerily predictable.
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Oh I don’t doubt you’ve been honest, it’s what you’re saying that I have a problem with. You can try to insulate yourself by predicting that your blatant ignorance will be met with hostility, because the words you are using here are indicative of a racist mindset, that’s obvious. I believe that you believe that white people are overcompensating because of guilt and self hatred, and are in fact the ones being persecuted. Everything you’ve said is a key point in alt right ideology and there’s no other way to spin that. Do the tucker Carlson thing all you want, you’ve made yourself very clear
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Nope, wrong again. That's not how I feel at all. But it's clear me telling you that won't mean anything to you. Your mind was made up about me from your very first reply. I'm not one of these people that thinks whiteness is under attack or whatever the mainstream right wing fear propaganda is right now.

How many times do you need to be wrong before looking inward?

You are so lost in this cycle of rage that it has become impossible for you to know when someone is just speaking plainly and with earnest intent.

It must be "coded language" or "dog whistling" when someone opposes you in any way.

YOU and your almighty wisdom couldn't possibly be wrong about anything. Lol.

Please get some help man, that type of paranoia and lack of self reflection is flat out unhealthy.

I truly wish you the best.

Also, lol @ the tucker comparison. That dude is wild, I have no idea how what I did translates to that. That dude hypes up right wingers like Hasan hypes up leftists, they're two flavors of the same personality. If you really knew me and knew my views I feel like you would find that comparison as funny as I do.

Crazy how you deny saying something that’s in writing. People like you are exhausting
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: doyle on March 10, 2024, 02:36:08 PM
This thread fucking sucks and anyone who's posted in here should probably spend a little more time off of the internet (myself included).
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: texastoast on March 10, 2024, 02:38:00 PM
not sure what’s happening but aww shit got some reading to do

(https://i.imgur.com/CbCGdKE.jpeg)
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: yghartsyrt on March 10, 2024, 02:43:53 PM
^
Looks beautiful, though
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: TheDraught on March 10, 2024, 02:50:21 PM
GH lurking this thread for sure using Incognito.

Hi Joa.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: lurkluke on March 10, 2024, 02:52:49 PM
Gofted Hater merch when

Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Rick Trapasso on March 10, 2024, 03:41:40 PM
This thread fucking sucks and anyone who's posted in here should probably spend a little more time off of the internet (myself included).

Can't argue with that.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Crust on March 10, 2024, 03:54:42 PM
The very existence of this thread is ridiculous. Weaponising racism because you don't like a nerd on YouTube is dickhead behaviour.

Agree with both points, Frank

We use to make good threads on this forum, build shit
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Post by: Mongo Lloyd on March 10, 2024, 04:03:39 PM
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The very existence of this thread is ridiculous. Weaponising racism because you don't like a nerd on YouTube is dickhead behaviour.
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Agree with both points, Frank

We use to make good threads on this forum, build shit

Can we start again? Go back to what it meant back then?
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Bumba on March 10, 2024, 04:07:06 PM
Can anyone name a non white skater that's gotten unfairly criticised by gifted hater? The only one I think who gets unfair stick is Tom Knox
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Post by: IUTSM on March 10, 2024, 04:52:30 PM
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The very existence of this thread is ridiculous. Weaponising racism because you don't like a nerd on YouTube is dickhead behaviour.
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Agree with both points, Frank

We use to make good threads on this forum, build shit
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Can we start again? Go back to what it meant back then?

open eyes and open hearts
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: stoneyhawk on March 10, 2024, 04:53:00 PM
Where can I get the anti-Hasan merch - I fucking hate it when that guy serves an ad at the top of the hour
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Post by: hacefresco420 on March 10, 2024, 04:54:20 PM
This thread sucks
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Post by: fuck_that_guy on March 10, 2024, 05:01:35 PM
fuck that guy
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Post by: kookdusoleil on March 10, 2024, 05:03:16 PM
fuck that guy

Coming in off the top rope! This thread is over.
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The white guilt and self hatred are off the charts on SLAP.

I hope you all can find peace within yourselves soon.

I would be curious to know if there is any correlation between having these extreme feelings and mental illness/taking behavioral medication.

I sincerely wish the best for everyone and I don't think hating people for their skin color is best for anyone. Seems like there is a lot of that going on here. Mostly towards whites if I'm being honest.

I'll definitely get kooked for this, but that's just the way it seems from my phone screen.
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White people need to hold each other accountable. If that looks like guilt or self hatred to you I think that says a lot about your lack of self awareness and understanding.
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Nope, that's not how I feel at all. Lol

I'd be more than willing to have a reasonable discussion in good faith about how I actually feel if that seemed like a possibility.

I have about zero hope that would ever happen on SLAP though haha, which is totally fine of course. That's not really what this place is good/meant for.
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Sure sounded like you felt that way. Maybe you should communicate your beliefs in a way that translates better instead of copping out and blaming the forum
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I think I'm doing an alright job at expressing myself.

Since you are so quick to reference and analyze the bias of others, I think it would only be fair for you to examine your own bias with the same amount of scrutiny.

For example, you made several negative assumptions about me and my opinions even though my original message made multiple points about finding peace, not hating based on skin color, and general concern for the well-being of users.

Really seems like I could say anything that wasn't completely agreeing with you and you would've had your mind made up about me immediately.

I'm not a fan of that kind of thinking/communication. But you do you man.

Sincerely hope it works out for you.
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idk if dog whistle is even the right term when you’re blatantly throwing around rhetoric like “white guilt” and “self hatred” when referring to a discussion analyzing potential racism. However you wanna dance around that is not gonna surprise me but that coded language is the first step in indoctrination used by white supremacy recruiters
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I've been nothing but genuine, honest, and direct with you.

But if this if how you choose to perceive my words, there is truly no chance to have a discussion in good faith here.

It's almost like that's what I told you in my reply to your initial criticism of my first post.....

Your actions today have been eerily predictable.
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Oh I don’t doubt you’ve been honest, it’s what you’re saying that I have a problem with. You can try to insulate yourself by predicting that your blatant ignorance will be met with hostility, because the words you are using here are indicative of a racist mindset, that’s obvious. I believe that you believe that white people are overcompensating because of guilt and self hatred, and are in fact the ones being persecuted. Everything you’ve said is a key point in alt right ideology and there’s no other way to spin that. Do the tucker Carlson thing all you want, you’ve made yourself very clear
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Nope, wrong again. That's not how I feel at all. But it's clear me telling you that won't mean anything to you. Your mind was made up about me from your very first reply. I'm not one of these people that thinks whiteness is under attack or whatever the mainstream right wing fear propaganda is right now.

How many times do you need to be wrong before looking inward?

You are so lost in this cycle of rage that it has become impossible for you to know when someone is just speaking plainly and with earnest intent.

It must be "coded language" or "dog whistling" when someone opposes you in any way.

YOU and your almighty wisdom couldn't possibly be wrong about anything. Lol.

Please get some help man, that type of paranoia and lack of self reflection is flat out unhealthy.

I truly wish you the best.

Also, lol @ the tucker comparison. That dude is wild, I have no idea how what I did translates to that. That dude hypes up right wingers like Hasan hypes up leftists, they're two flavors of the same personality. If you really knew me and knew my views I feel like you would find that comparison as funny as I do.
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Crazy how you deny saying something that’s in writing. People like you are exhausting

Lmao at this dude calling anyone exhausting.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Dante Bichette on March 10, 2024, 05:53:06 PM
As stupid as a lot of the posts in this thread are I gotta say this whole thing is entertaining and probably the most engaging thread in a minute.

I think we all just need to smoke some salvia and chill out.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: SkatingOnNeptune on March 10, 2024, 06:12:09 PM
As stupid as a lot of the posts in this thread are I gotta say this whole thing is entertaining and probably the most engaging thread in a minute.

I think we all just need to smoke some salvia and chill out.

I have no first hand experience, but from the videos I've seen, salvia seems like one of the the least chill things we could be doing.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: dkn on March 10, 2024, 06:12:25 PM
ngl i dont feel like readin thr thread but anyone got a redacted.ch invite dm me ♥️♥️
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Can he read on March 10, 2024, 06:19:32 PM
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The white guilt and self hatred are off the charts on SLAP.

I hope you all can find peace within yourselves soon.

I would be curious to know if there is any correlation between having these extreme feelings and mental illness/taking behavioral medication.

I sincerely wish the best for everyone and I don't think hating people for their skin color is best for anyone. Seems like there is a lot of that going on here. Mostly towards whites if I'm being honest.

I'll definitely get kooked for this, but that's just the way it seems from my phone screen.
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White people need to hold each other accountable. If that looks like guilt or self hatred to you I think that says a lot about your lack of self awareness and understanding.
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Nope, that's not how I feel at all. Lol

I'd be more than willing to have a reasonable discussion in good faith about how I actually feel if that seemed like a possibility.

I have about zero hope that would ever happen on SLAP though haha, which is totally fine of course. That's not really what this place is good/meant for.
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Sure sounded like you felt that way. Maybe you should communicate your beliefs in a way that translates better instead of copping out and blaming the forum
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I think I'm doing an alright job at expressing myself.

Since you are so quick to reference and analyze the bias of others, I think it would only be fair for you to examine your own bias with the same amount of scrutiny.

For example, you made several negative assumptions about me and my opinions even though my original message made multiple points about finding peace, not hating based on skin color, and general concern for the well-being of users.

Really seems like I could say anything that wasn't completely agreeing with you and you would've had your mind made up about me immediately.

I'm not a fan of that kind of thinking/communication. But you do you man.

Sincerely hope it works out for you.
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idk if dog whistle is even the right term when you’re blatantly throwing around rhetoric like “white guilt” and “self hatred” when referring to a discussion analyzing potential racism. However you wanna dance around that is not gonna surprise me but that coded language is the first step in indoctrination used by white supremacy recruiters
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I've been nothing but genuine, honest, and direct with you.

But if this if how you choose to perceive my words, there is truly no chance to have a discussion in good faith here.

It's almost like that's what I told you in my reply to your initial criticism of my first post.....

Your actions today have been eerily predictable.
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Oh I don’t doubt you’ve been honest, it’s what you’re saying that I have a problem with. You can try to insulate yourself by predicting that your blatant ignorance will be met with hostility, because the words you are using here are indicative of a racist mindset, that’s obvious. I believe that you believe that white people are overcompensating because of guilt and self hatred, and are in fact the ones being persecuted. Everything you’ve said is a key point in alt right ideology and there’s no other way to spin that. Do the tucker Carlson thing all you want, you’ve made yourself very clear
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Nope, wrong again. That's not how I feel at all. But it's clear me telling you that won't mean anything to you. Your mind was made up about me from your very first reply. I'm not one of these people that thinks whiteness is under attack or whatever the mainstream right wing fear propaganda is right now.

How many times do you need to be wrong before looking inward?

You are so lost in this cycle of rage that it has become impossible for you to know when someone is just speaking plainly and with earnest intent.

It must be "coded language" or "dog whistling" when someone opposes you in any way.

YOU and your almighty wisdom couldn't possibly be wrong about anything. Lol.

Please get some help man, that type of paranoia and lack of self reflection is flat out unhealthy.

I truly wish you the best.

Also, lol @ the tucker comparison. That dude is wild, I have no idea how what I did translates to that. That dude hypes up right wingers like Hasan hypes up leftists, they're two flavors of the same personality. If you really knew me and knew my views I feel like you would find that comparison as funny as I do.
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Crazy how you deny saying something that’s in writing. People like you are exhausting
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Lmao at this dude calling anyone exhausting.

Fuck off
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: JANUS on March 10, 2024, 06:31:12 PM
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The very existence of this thread is ridiculous. Weaponising racism because you don't like a nerd on YouTube is dickhead behaviour.
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Agree with both points, Frank

We use to make good threads on this forum, build shit
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Can we start again? Go back to what it meant back then?
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open eyes and open hearts

The things that set us apart.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Rick Trapasso on March 10, 2024, 06:35:47 PM
As stupid as a lot of the posts in this thread are I gotta say this whole thing is entertaining and probably the most engaging thread in a minute.

I think we all just need to smoke some salvia and chill out.

That sounds like an actual nightmare lol
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Welpok on March 10, 2024, 06:36:01 PM
We all want one thing. Freedom. We all should be working together. Before anyone attacks me, I am Native American. We should be focusing on the future rather than the past. What's done is done.

Idk what any of this is about anymore, but can we all just skate? Does it matter what one person's opinion is? It's just one perspective out of many. Idk. Let's just skate.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: SkatingOnNeptune on March 10, 2024, 07:12:12 PM
Sorry to continue bumping this poopy thread, but I find it funny how people feel the need to preface their comments with their race/ethnicity in order to be taken seriously.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: KrisJolson on March 10, 2024, 07:27:21 PM
for the love of god do not smoke salvia
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Colin Robinson on March 10, 2024, 07:33:38 PM
Smoke sativa though, that’s a good one.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: spacial_profiling on March 10, 2024, 07:55:50 PM
GH is salvia to skateboarding. I personally don’t like the way he talks to his gf  ;D
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: fakie nollie on March 10, 2024, 09:03:12 PM
Someone wrote here they listen to him as background noise

How tf do you listen to the embodiment of griptape voice in the background
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: caiiro on March 10, 2024, 09:53:33 PM
i don't know if gifted hater is right-wing, but you don't have to be right-wing to not like hasan piker
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: daewonsbong on March 10, 2024, 09:59:16 PM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=88QU2b62b80

In this video he says 'I respect Sam Hyde' and completely empathizes with his white power supporters while defending and massively (egregiously) downplaying sam hyde.

Lately hes a serial fence sitter and it would be so much better if he just was vocal and straight up about what he actually believes so we could see where hes really at. In recent developments he seems to be a big fan of sam sulek and is continually talking about being the alpha male. Nerd to weck training arc incoming?
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: dallou on March 11, 2024, 04:33:31 AM
If a youtuber does not align 100 per 100 with my ideology, I just don’t watch. Especially if it’s cooking or skateboarding
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Sick_McCrank_ on March 11, 2024, 04:43:29 AM
for the love of god do not smoke salvia

This thread gives me heavy salvia trip vibes. Nothing makes sense and it weirds my brain out. People screaming and I can’t make out what they’re trying to say. All that lasts is a weird after taste and a strange mood. Going deep into thoughts that I can’t put in a logical order or comprehend.   

Never smoked salvia but that’s what I imagine it to be like…
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: radcunt on March 11, 2024, 04:47:47 AM
Sam Hyde’s head looks like a deflated basketball
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: S. on March 11, 2024, 05:02:44 AM
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for the love of god do not smoke salvia
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This thread gives me heavy salvia trip vibes. Nothing makes sense and it weirds my brain out. People screaming and I can’t make out what they’re trying to say. All that lasts is a weird after taste and a strange mood. Going deep into thoughts that I can’t put in a logical order or comprehend.   

Never smoked salvia but that’s what I imagine it to be like…

Welcome to the murky dark waters where the yearning for a fascist revolution is taking root. The dark ponds so many insecure male nerds and online opportunists love to feed on and shit in.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: HeavyAndExpensive on March 11, 2024, 05:37:59 AM
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Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Coping Grinder on March 11, 2024, 05:55:05 AM
Can someone who knows how to use this site post a clip of some good skating? Feels like this thread could use a palate cleanser.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: corey websturd on March 11, 2024, 06:05:07 AM
We shouldn't even debate this or reply this stupid topic.Shit...I did...
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: funeral_tuxedo on March 11, 2024, 06:14:02 AM
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that when everything starts breaking down
you take the pieces off the ground
and show this wicked town
something beautiful and new
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Fartknocker415 on March 11, 2024, 06:38:23 AM
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for the love of god do not smoke salvia
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This thread gives me heavy salvia trip vibes. Nothing makes sense and it weirds my brain out. People screaming and I can’t make out what they’re trying to say. All that lasts is a weird after taste and a strange mood. Going deep into thoughts that I can’t put in a logical order or comprehend.   

Never smoked salvia but that’s what I imagine it to be like…

You’ve never even done it and you made up a paragraph trying to pretend like you know what it’s like
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: GAY on March 11, 2024, 06:41:16 AM
This thread is an absolute goft.
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Post by: Sick_McCrank_ on March 11, 2024, 07:05:25 AM
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This thread gives me heavy salvia trip vibes. Nothing makes sense and it weirds my brain out. People screaming and I can’t make out what they’re trying to say. All that lasts is a weird after taste and a strange mood. Going deep into thoughts that I can’t put in a logical order or comprehend.   

Never smoked salvia but that’s what I imagine it to be like…
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You’ve never even done it and you made up a paragraph trying to pretend like you know what it’s like

Exactly. Your reading comprehension pretty good.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Mandatory Reload on March 11, 2024, 07:09:00 AM
GH's politics are a bit too incoherent to really parse out tbh, he kinda oscillates between the edgelordy 4chan vibe (veers into sorta concerning territory at times) and some seemingly thoughtful progressive analysis, but i do think it's a bit hard to ignore how many Black skaters have fallen under the crosshairs in his videos:

Tyshawn - King graphics bad, full of himself, switch ollie gate, only pops over stuff
Beatrice - doesnt deserve the opportunities she's been given + no self awareness
KB - doesn't skate enough, "fried"
Kader - same as KB, sponsor hopping, not loyal enough to Baker/bad decision to move to Violet
Carl Aikens - fake steez, pants too big
Robert Neal - hot wheels jacket, got too mad about his comments about hot wheels jacket
Gary Rogers - industry insider, too positive, doesn't have good analysis
Nyjah - obvious criticisms (he actually seems to kinda like Nyjah though funnily enough)
Nak - Lottie's debacle, full of himself, King graphics bad
Lil Wayne - Gave himself a pro board, still can't ollie
Maurio McCoy - too boring
Jeron Wilson - too positive
Stevie Williams - NFT stuff
Steezus Christ - full of himself, doesn't do anything, too positive
Dashawn - music sucks, t-shirt too cropped

obviously he's targeted tons of white skaters and industry figures too but at a certain point it becomes notable how often he talks about Black skaters. does this mean he's a Proud Boy or something? no, definitely not, but I think that he doesn't have a lot of self awareness around the optics of the subjects he chooses and that there should be more thoughtful intention behind it than "there's something i COULD criticize about this person so i'm going to". seems like he kinda takes the "i don't see color! i treat everyone equally!" approach, which doesn't result in especially antiracist content.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: addie pray on March 11, 2024, 07:13:38 AM
kevin rodrigues is a VF ploy to trick susceptible youth into listening to death in june
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: addie pray on March 11, 2024, 07:16:48 AM
then before u kno it jerry's throwing down julius evola + savitri devi graphics and AVE goes full blood and soil (he's already a socal guy with tats) - you guys are gonna feel pretty dumb arguing about LCD entertainment about dudes that look and act just like you
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: addie pray on March 11, 2024, 07:17:20 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMEGDI9vX6w&ab_channel=lazycalmcat
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: KrisJolson on March 11, 2024, 07:18:51 AM
then before u kno it jerry's throwing down julius evola + savitri devi graphics and AVE goes full blood and soil (he's already a socal guy with tats) - you guys are gonna feel pretty dumb arguing about LCD entertainment about dudes that look and act just like you

take your meds big dawg
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: grandslam on March 11, 2024, 07:23:08 AM
So by this standard anyone who has posted about these EXACT topics on this board is also not self aware / only doesn’t count if you are anonymous.

Give me a break.
 

GH's politics are a bit too incoherent to really parse out tbh, he kinda oscillates between the edgelordy 4chan vibe (veers into sorta concerning territory at times) and some seemingly thoughtful progressive analysis, but i do think it's a bit hard to ignore how many Black skaters have fallen under the crosshairs in his videos:

Tyshawn - King graphics bad, full of himself, switch ollie gate, only pops over stuff
Beatrice - doesnt deserve the opportunities she's been given + no self awareness
KB - doesn't skate enough, "fried"
Kader - same as KB, sponsor hopping, not loyal enough to Baker/bad decision to move to Violet
Carl Aikens - fake steez, pants too big
Robert Neal - hot wheels jacket, got too mad about his comments about hot wheels jacket
Gary Rogers - industry insider, too positive, doesn't have good analysis
Nyjah - obvious criticisms (he actually seems to kinda like Nyjah though funnily enough)
Nak - Lottie's debacle, full of himself, King graphics bad
Lil Wayne - Gave himself a pro board, still can't ollie
Maurio McCoy - too boring
Jeron Wilson - too positive
Stevie Williams - NFT stuff
Steezus Christ - full of himself, doesn't do anything, too positive
Dashawn - music sucks, t-shirt too cropped

Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: somedudefromnj on March 11, 2024, 07:41:42 AM
i don't know if gifted hater is right-wing, but you don't have to be right-wing to not like hasan piker

didnt Hassan tell one of his trans viewers on one of his streams that they didnt know shit about trans issues?
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Aerozzmith on March 11, 2024, 07:42:08 AM
Who?

wtf even is the internet/ skateboarding these days?

I keep being reminded I have never understood what is cool.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: addie pray on March 11, 2024, 07:49:45 AM
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take your meds big dawg

just because u dont understand what im saying doesnt mean im unwell
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Mandatory Reload on March 11, 2024, 08:09:46 AM
So by this standard anyone who has posted about these EXACT topics on this board is also not self aware / only doesn’t count if you are anonymous.

Give me a break.
 

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GH's politics are a bit too incoherent to really parse out tbh, he kinda oscillates between the edgelordy 4chan vibe (veers into sorta concerning territory at times) and some seemingly thoughtful progressive analysis, but i do think it's a bit hard to ignore how many Black skaters have fallen under the crosshairs in his videos:

Tyshawn - King graphics bad, full of himself, switch ollie gate, only pops over stuff
Beatrice - doesnt deserve the opportunities she's been given + no self awareness
KB - doesn't skate enough, "fried"
Kader - same as KB, sponsor hopping, not loyal enough to Baker/bad decision to move to Violet
Carl Aikens - fake steez, pants too big
Robert Neal - hot wheels jacket, got too mad about his comments about hot wheels jacket
Gary Rogers - industry insider, too positive, doesn't have good analysis
Nyjah - obvious criticisms (he actually seems to kinda like Nyjah though funnily enough)
Nak - Lottie's debacle, full of himself, King graphics bad
Lil Wayne - Gave himself a pro board, still can't ollie
Maurio McCoy - too boring
Jeron Wilson - too positive
Stevie Williams - NFT stuff
Steezus Christ - full of himself, doesn't do anything, too positive
Dashawn - music sucks, t-shirt too cropped

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i mean, if a single poster had shared all of these same criticisms on Slap, then yes, i would say they are lacking the same self-awareness. it's not the existence of any single criticism, but the pattern as a whole. i don't think it's unreasonable to think that everyone should hold themselves to a standard of self-awareness around racism?

that being said, your comparison doesn't hold much weight for me anyways because i also think it's reasonable to hold someone in GH's position to an even higher standard. his videos get hundreds of thousands of views, his content has real impact on public opinion in skateboarding culture. i personally think he should hold himself to something more resembling a journalistic standard than what i would expect of an average Slap poster who doesn't have much or any influence at all. it's clear that he does actually think about this stuff sometimes, he's chosen to not speak about certain things because he knows the impact it will have and he doesn't want his viewers to attack a specific person etc. but it seems like his understanding of that concept has its limits.

for the record, i say this as someone that largely enjoys his content and thinks he's usually at least in the right ballpark with his takes
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Stu Pickles on March 11, 2024, 08:14:33 AM
i have been really lazy about cooking at home lately and want to change that, gotten to the point where ill walk 30 mins for take out rather then saving money and just cooking for 15 minutes at home.

anybody have some good home cooking tips? i am an incredibly lazy cook, spending an hour in the kitchen fills me with dread. i need something more exciting then chicken and rice to add to my lazy meal prep. any good recipes?

also is a cast iron actually worth it?

rip akira toriyama
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: streetmeat on March 11, 2024, 08:19:10 AM
i have been really lazy about cooking at home lately and want to change that, gotten to the point where ill walk 30 mins for take out rather then saving money and just cooking for 15 minutes at home.

anybody have some good home cooking tips? i am an incredibly lazy cook, spending an hour in the kitchen fills me with dread. i need something more exciting then chicken and rice to add to my lazy meal prep. any good recipes?

also is a cast iron actually worth it?

rip akira toriyama

i loath going to the grocery store or having to come up with meal ideas. i've been using EveryPlate meal subscription for like 3 years now. its very cheap (for 5 nights worth of food for both my wife and i we pay $68 a week) and you can pick from a ton of meals, most of which take less than 30 minutes to make.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: addie pray on March 11, 2024, 08:22:02 AM
bro cooking is OD easy and people have been doing it for millenia. do you hire someone to fuckin burp you too? i would be embarassed to tell people neither i nor my wife can cook whatsoever and are infact overwhelmed by having to do so
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: addie pray on March 11, 2024, 08:23:27 AM
https://www.budgetbytes.com/african-peanut-stew-vegan/


(https://www.budgetbytes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/West-African-Peanut-Stew-V.jpg)

this shit is banging, easy to make (one pot), nutritious, and makes hella servings so ur depressed ass just gotta reheat and eat
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on March 11, 2024, 08:24:50 AM
i have been really lazy about cooking at home lately and want to change that, gotten to the point where ill walk 30 mins for take out rather then saving money and just cooking for 15 minutes at home.

anybody have some good home cooking tips? i am an incredibly lazy cook, spending an hour in the kitchen fills me with dread. i need something more exciting then chicken and rice to add to my lazy meal prep. any good recipes?

also is a cast iron actually worth it?

rip akira toriyama

How one answers this really depends on the type of eater you are. Are you particular, and are you opposed to more ethnic options?

If you’re an open minded eater I’d suggest something like watching Christopher Kimball’s Milkstreet program on pbs. It’s not fast paced or overwhelming, and they cover all ethnic grounds. They keep it mostly uncomplicated, and the recipes are fantastic.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Trashcon on March 11, 2024, 08:25:27 AM
i have been really lazy about cooking at home lately and want to change that, gotten to the point where ill walk 30 mins for take out rather then saving money and just cooking for 15 minutes at home.

anybody have some good home cooking tips? i am an incredibly lazy cook, spending an hour in the kitchen fills me with dread. i need something more exciting then chicken and rice to add to my lazy meal prep. any good recipes?

also is a cast iron actually worth it?

rip akira toriyama

A well maintained cast iron will last you a lifetime. I've really enjoyed using one for the past 6-7 years.


P.S - kamehameha!
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Abyss1 on March 11, 2024, 08:28:07 AM
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didnt Hassan tell one of his trans viewers on one of his streams that they didnt know shit about trans issues?

I watched hasan for a minute in 2021 before I realized how truly stupid he is…he sucks for sure and his politics are meh, but yeah he said at one point he used to be transphobic before he was a popular streamer and said it was because of “American” conditioning that made him a bigot


 
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Rick Trapasso on March 11, 2024, 08:31:41 AM
(https://worker-images.ws.pho.to/i1/319EB5C8-4325-470E-B7F8-FA6ABBC1C2B1.jpg)

This is fucking hilarious.

Would gnar
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Stu Pickles on March 11, 2024, 08:33:01 AM
bro cooking is OD easy and people have been doing it for millenia. do you hire someone to fuckin burp you too? i would be embarassed to tell people neither i nor my wife can cook whatsoever and are infact overwhelmed by having to do so

yeah cooking is easy im just a lazy cook who at home cooks to survive and not be hungry more then to cook then eat for pleasure which im trying to move towards

that peanut stew looks amazing, a nice stew is exactly what i need to add to my meal roster

How one answers this really depends on the type of eater you are. Are you particular, and are you opposed to more ethnic options?

If you’re an open minded eater I’d suggest something like watching Christopher Kimball’s Milkstreet program on pbs. It’s not fast paced or overwhelming, and they cover all ethnic grounds. They keep it mostly uncomplicated, and the recipes are fantastic.

ill eat absolutely anything if its good, ill check this out thanks
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: ejazzle on March 11, 2024, 08:39:57 AM
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i have been really lazy about cooking at home lately and want to change that, gotten to the point where ill walk 30 mins for take out rather then saving money and just cooking for 15 minutes at home.

anybody have some good home cooking tips? i am an incredibly lazy cook, spending an hour in the kitchen fills me with dread. i need something more exciting then chicken and rice to add to my lazy meal prep. any good recipes?

also is a cast iron actually worth it?

rip akira toriyama
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A well maintained cast iron will last you a lifetime. I've really enjoyed using one for the past 6-7 years.


P.S - kamehameha!

I think I am finally ready to take a dive into the cast iron world. Any recommendations on where I should start and what initial seasoning process I should use?
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Skibb on March 11, 2024, 09:01:09 AM
https://www.budgetbytes.com/african-peanut-stew-vegan/


(https://www.budgetbytes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/West-African-Peanut-Stew-V.jpg)

this shit is banging, easy to make (one pot), nutritious, and makes hella servings so ur depressed ass just gotta reheat and eat

That thing looks awesome, will be cooking it tonight, thanks dawg
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Theshrunkendrunkard on March 11, 2024, 09:02:00 AM
GH is the only thing making skateboarding interesting in the past ten years
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Post by: addie pray on March 11, 2024, 09:07:23 AM
health is wealth
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Post by: IUTSM on March 11, 2024, 09:16:43 AM
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bro cooking is OD easy and people have been doing it for millenia. do you hire someone to fuckin burp you too? i would be embarassed to tell people neither i nor my wife can cook whatsoever and are infact overwhelmed by having to do so
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yeah cooking is easy im just a lazy cook who at home cooks to survive and not be hungry more then to cook then eat for pleasure which im trying to move towards

that peanut stew looks amazing, a nice stew is exactly what i need to add to my meal roster

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How one answers this really depends on the type of eater you are. Are you particular, and are you opposed to more ethnic options?

If you’re an open minded eater I’d suggest something like watching Christopher Kimball’s Milkstreet program on pbs. It’s not fast paced or overwhelming, and they cover all ethnic grounds. They keep it mostly uncomplicated, and the recipes are fantastic.
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ill eat absolutely anything if its good, ill check this out thanks

Im not gonna get take away when i can make something just as good at home. Less money inspend on shit like that, the less i gotta make to stay afloat. But thats my priority


Anyways, find somethinf you like to eat and learn to make it or something similar. Yall can be basic like lentils, black beans, and rice or quinoa or noodles. Or, step it up with some spices. I was on the basic x freegan x powah food for a lotta years but i started messing around with whole/fresh spices and diced onions when i was cooking for a huge group of people every night one fall. Tbh, canned no sodium shredded chicken in a skillet is a really easy way to start if you fuck with meat. Coconut oil, shredded chicken, paprika, etc
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: WavyDavy on March 11, 2024, 09:36:33 AM
i have been really lazy about cooking at home lately and want to change that, gotten to the point where ill walk 30 mins for take out rather then saving money and just cooking for 15 minutes at home.

anybody have some good home cooking tips? i am an incredibly lazy cook, spending an hour in the kitchen fills me with dread. i need something more exciting then chicken and rice to add to my lazy meal prep. any good recipes?

also is a cast iron actually worth it?

rip akira toriyama

Maybe sandwiches and wraps?
Get a panini maker if you haven't one.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Turtle Boy on March 11, 2024, 09:43:19 AM
GH is the only thing making skateboarding interesting in the past ten years
80% of GH output is summarizing and articulating what is said on Slap or insta comments and doing internet/4chan jokes.
Skateboarding is way more interesting than that, even when it's bad.
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Post by: Theshrunkendrunkard on March 11, 2024, 09:47:09 AM
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80% of GH output is summarizing and articulating what is said on Slap or insta comments and doing internet/4chan jokes.
Skateboarding is way more interesting than that, even when it's bad.

Well, you should stand tall knowing you have a part of making skateboarding interesting. It’s stale, no matter what you say or think. Everyone is a critic, including you and I.  IPath reboot is sweet, BHADW2 was amazing, Nike is fucking whack, no one wants to see another 5050 front shuv, and Kader is fucking blowing it. Whether you think that or GH does, it’s reality. The difference is GH is speaking on it, and you’re bravely sulking in a chat room.
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Post by: Turtle Boy on March 11, 2024, 10:07:38 AM
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GH is the only thing making skateboarding interesting in the past ten years
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80% of GH output is summarizing and articulating what is said on Slap or insta comments and doing internet/4chan jokes.
Skateboarding is way more interesting than that, even when it's bad.
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Well, you should stand tall knowing you have a part of making skateboarding interesting. It’s stale, no matter what you say or think. Everyone is a critic, including you and I.  IPath reboot is sweet, BHADW2 was amazing, Nike is fucking whack, no one wants to see another 5050 front shuv, and Kader is fucking blowing it. Whether you think that or GH does, it’s reality. The difference is GH is speaking on it, and you’re bravely sulking in a chat room.
I don't think those topics are particularily interesting in my eyes. For example, I think Atlantic Drift and Jacob Harris brought something interesting in skateboarding, Japanese contest skaters are bringing something different to skateboarding (whether it's good or bad, it's a different topic...).
GH is speaking on it just as a lot of skaters are speaking on it IRL, the difference is that he uses youtube and makes money of it.
Is it entertaining? Sometimes.
Is it getting old really fast? In my opinion it is.
Is it making skateboarding more interesting? I don't see how.
I can't speak for the 90s, but in the early 2000s people hated just as good as now IRL whether it was on Element, Darkstar, Osisis, Chris Lambert, Josh Kasper, Andy Macdonald or Chad Fernandez.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: fuckingawesomesauce on March 11, 2024, 10:27:59 AM
**Gifted Hater
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Post by: Dante Bichette on March 11, 2024, 10:29:17 AM
health is wealth

Wise final words.

Nah fr why was he banned though lol, mods of veganism.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Dirty_Dan90 on March 11, 2024, 10:32:49 AM
Weck and GH honestly were good the first year they put stuff out then it just got stale and it was obvious they just started milking the attention and trying to put on their merch while the gettin was good
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: ejazzle on March 11, 2024, 10:59:38 AM
i have been really lazy about cooking at home lately and want to change that, gotten to the point where ill walk 30 mins for take out rather then saving money and just cooking for 15 minutes at home.

anybody have some good home cooking tips? i am an incredibly lazy cook, spending an hour in the kitchen fills me with dread. i need something more exciting then chicken and rice to add to my lazy meal prep. any good recipes?

also is a cast iron actually worth it?

rip akira toriyama

Dude white rice is so easy. 1 cup of rice to 2 cups of water. Put it in a pot bring it to a boil, turn the heat to low and put the lid on. Dont touch it for 20 minutes. Now you have rice as a side the next couple nights. Get some ground beef and throw it in a pan with a little bit of seasoning and cook till brown. Get some tortillas, shredded cheese and salsa and now you have probably 3 meals worth of tacos with rice as well.

Just keep shit simple, cooking is as complicated or as easy as you want it to be. It usually takes me 20 minutes or less to cook anything i make.

edited to correct rice/water ratio
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Post by: lurkluke on March 11, 2024, 11:22:33 AM
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i have been really lazy about cooking at home lately and want to change that, gotten to the point where ill walk 30 mins for take out rather then saving money and just cooking for 15 minutes at home.

anybody have some good home cooking tips? i am an incredibly lazy cook, spending an hour in the kitchen fills me with dread. i need something more exciting then chicken and rice to add to my lazy meal prep. any good recipes?

also is a cast iron actually worth it?

rip akira toriyama
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Dude white rice is so easy. 1 cup of rice to 3 cups of water. Put it in a pot bring it to a boil, turn the heat to low and put the lid on. Dont touch it for 20 minutes. Now you have rice as a side the next couple nights. Get some ground beef and throw it in a pan with a little bit of seasoning and cook till brown. Get some tortillas, shredded cheese and salsa and now you have probably 3 meals worth of tacos with rice as well.

Just keep shit simple, cooking is as complicated or as easy as you want it to be. It usually takes me 20 minutes or less to cook anything i make.

Your water to rice ratio is way out dude. 1:2.

You are right though. Rice is easy. You just gotta get all the water that's not in the rice, into the rice. Then it's done. Boil, take down low, and leave.

Also with cooking: planning is key. Spend 30 minutes each week getting a shopping list, and a plan for your food. That takes 50% of the stress and panic away when you're in the kitchen. I also try to have one or two highlight dishes each week. I come up with something I'm real excited to eat... the  work out how to make it real good. Doesn't have to be difficult. Just something you really would like to eat.

Also like the planning, prep work is key. Work out what you can make a day or two ahead and do it when you have a moment. Take the pressure off when you need to cook, and try do as much as you can when you have time.
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Post by: GrayCellGreen on March 11, 2024, 11:30:37 AM
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i have been really lazy about cooking at home lately and want to change that, gotten to the point where ill walk 30 mins for take out rather then saving money and just cooking for 15 minutes at home.

anybody have some good home cooking tips? i am an incredibly lazy cook, spending an hour in the kitchen fills me with dread. i need something more exciting then chicken and rice to add to my lazy meal prep. any good recipes?

also is a cast iron actually worth it?

rip akira toriyama
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Dude white rice is so easy. 1 cup of rice to 3 cups of water. Put it in a pot bring it to a boil, turn the heat to low and put the lid on. Dont touch it for 20 minutes. Now you have rice as a side the next couple nights. Get some ground beef and throw it in a pan with a little bit of seasoning and cook till brown. Get some tortillas, shredded cheese and salsa and now you have probably 3 meals worth of tacos with rice as well.

Just keep shit simple, cooking is as complicated or as easy as you want it to be. It usually takes me 20 minutes or less to cook anything i make.
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Your water to rice ratio is way out dude. 1:2.

You are right though. Rice is easy. You just gotta get all the water that's not in the rice, into the rice. Then it's done. Boil, take down low, and leave.

Also with cooking: planning is key. Spend 30 minutes each week getting a shopping list, and a plan for your food. That takes 50% of the stress and panic away when you're in the kitchen. I also try to have one or two highlight dishes each week. I come up with something I'm real excited to eat... the  work out how to make it real good. Doesn't have to be difficult. Just something you really would like to eat.

Also like the planning, prep work is key. Work out what you can make a day or two ahead and do it when you have a moment. Take the pressure off when you need to cook, and try do as much as you can when you have time.

Good call on the ratio. Another thing to keep in mind is the cook time of different types of rice. I tend to prefer basmati due to the shorter cook time when compared to jasmine.
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Post by: ejazzle on March 11, 2024, 11:39:45 AM
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i have been really lazy about cooking at home lately and want to change that, gotten to the point where ill walk 30 mins for take out rather then saving money and just cooking for 15 minutes at home.

anybody have some good home cooking tips? i am an incredibly lazy cook, spending an hour in the kitchen fills me with dread. i need something more exciting then chicken and rice to add to my lazy meal prep. any good recipes?

also is a cast iron actually worth it?

rip akira toriyama
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Dude white rice is so easy. 1 cup of rice to 3 cups of water. Put it in a pot bring it to a boil, turn the heat to low and put the lid on. Dont touch it for 20 minutes. Now you have rice as a side the next couple nights. Get some ground beef and throw it in a pan with a little bit of seasoning and cook till brown. Get some tortillas, shredded cheese and salsa and now you have probably 3 meals worth of tacos with rice as well.

Just keep shit simple, cooking is as complicated or as easy as you want it to be. It usually takes me 20 minutes or less to cook anything i make.
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Your water to rice ratio is way out dude. 1:2.

You are right though. Rice is easy. You just gotta get all the water that's not in the rice, into the rice. Then it's done. Boil, take down low, and leave.

Also with cooking: planning is key. Spend 30 minutes each week getting a shopping list, and a plan for your food. That takes 50% of the stress and panic away when you're in the kitchen. I also try to have one or two highlight dishes each week. I come up with something I'm real excited to eat... the  work out how to make it real good. Doesn't have to be difficult. Just something you really would like to eat.

Also like the planning, prep work is key. Work out what you can make a day or two ahead and do it when you have a moment. Take the pressure off when you need to cook, and try do as much as you can when you have time.
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Good call on the ratio. Another thing to keep in mind is the cook time of different types of rice. I tend to prefer basmati due to the shorter cook time when compared to jasmine.

Yeah my bad I definitely misremembered the ratio. Ill edit my original comment. For years I always just used to use my finger to measure the water to rice ratio and had good results but wanted to dial in a little better. So i started rinsing more thoroughly and actually measuring how much water to use.

A simple way Ill "spice up a meal" is just by using different sauces. Whether its bbq, hot sauces, spicy ranch etc just a little something to bring in another flavor super easily.
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Post by: lurkluke on March 11, 2024, 01:00:01 PM
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i have been really lazy about cooking at home lately and want to change that, gotten to the point where ill walk 30 mins for take out rather then saving money and just cooking for 15 minutes at home.

anybody have some good home cooking tips? i am an incredibly lazy cook, spending an hour in the kitchen fills me with dread. i need something more exciting then chicken and rice to add to my lazy meal prep. any good recipes?

also is a cast iron actually worth it?

rip akira toriyama
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Dude white rice is so easy. 1 cup of rice to 3 cups of water. Put it in a pot bring it to a boil, turn the heat to low and put the lid on. Dont touch it for 20 minutes. Now you have rice as a side the next couple nights. Get some ground beef and throw it in a pan with a little bit of seasoning and cook till brown. Get some tortillas, shredded cheese and salsa and now you have probably 3 meals worth of tacos with rice as well.

Just keep shit simple, cooking is as complicated or as easy as you want it to be. It usually takes me 20 minutes or less to cook anything i make.
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Your water to rice ratio is way out dude. 1:2.

You are right though. Rice is easy. You just gotta get all the water that's not in the rice, into the rice. Then it's done. Boil, take down low, and leave.

Also with cooking: planning is key. Spend 30 minutes each week getting a shopping list, and a plan for your food. That takes 50% of the stress and panic away when you're in the kitchen. I also try to have one or two highlight dishes each week. I come up with something I'm real excited to eat... the  work out how to make it real good. Doesn't have to be difficult. Just something you really would like to eat.

Also like the planning, prep work is key. Work out what you can make a day or two ahead and do it when you have a moment. Take the pressure off when you need to cook, and try do as much as you can when you have time.
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Good call on the ratio. Another thing to keep in mind is the cook time of different types of rice. I tend to prefer basmati due to the shorter cook time when compared to jasmine.

I use brown rice mostly for the same reason. The window between done and dry is about 10 mins. So just chuck it on, get everything else done, then it'll probably be ready. I usually try stop it before it's almost done (I cook on vibes and bites rather than time), and leave the lid on while I finish everything else.

It's also a lot better for you.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Lhotse’s Pit of Death on March 11, 2024, 01:19:01 PM
Sugar Gliders are cool
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Post by: Mongo Lloyd on March 11, 2024, 01:21:55 PM
Sounds like some of you guys need a rice cooker. I’m telling you, once you have a good one you’ll never wanna go without.

Bought mine from my Japanese friend before she went back to Japan. Possibly one of the best purchases I’ve ever made.
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Post by: lurkluke on March 11, 2024, 01:23:52 PM
Sounds like some of you guys need a rice cooker. I’m telling you, once you have a good one you’ll never wanna go without.

Bought mine from my Japanese friend before she went back to Japan. Possibly one of the best purchases I’ve ever made.

We got one, used it once, and figured the pot did the same job, so sold it.
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Post by: Mongo Lloyd on March 11, 2024, 01:30:10 PM
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Sounds like some of you guys need a rice cooker. I’m telling you, once you have a good one you’ll never wanna go without.

Bought mine from my Japanese friend before she went back to Japan. Possibly one of the best purchases I’ve ever made.
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We got one, used it once, and figured the pot did the same job, so sold it.

If you’re having no issues with burning or sticking, you’re golden. I like the rice cooker as there’s no variables. Same thing every time.
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Post by: KrisJolson on March 11, 2024, 01:34:31 PM
imagine not being smart enough to cook rice
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Post by: Yakub on March 11, 2024, 01:52:31 PM
I just discovered these, really good. Ive been eating these and totinos pizza rolls for the last few days, wash it down with a walmart ginger ale.
(https://assets.wakefern.com/is/image/wakefern/7100772211-001?$Mi9Product_detail$)
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Dante Bichette on March 11, 2024, 02:11:24 PM
El Monterey>Delimex

fuck José Olé
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Post by: mj23 on March 11, 2024, 02:21:26 PM
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i have been really lazy about cooking at home lately and want to change that, gotten to the point where ill walk 30 mins for take out rather then saving money and just cooking for 15 minutes at home.

anybody have some good home cooking tips? i am an incredibly lazy cook, spending an hour in the kitchen fills me with dread. i need something more exciting then chicken and rice to add to my lazy meal prep. any good recipes?

also is a cast iron actually worth it?

rip akira toriyama
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Dude white rice is so easy. 1 cup of rice to 2 cups of water. Put it in a pot bring it to a boil, turn the heat to low and put the lid on. Dont touch it for 20 minutes. Now you have rice as a side the next couple nights. Get some ground beef and throw it in a pan with a little bit of seasoning and cook till brown. Get some tortillas, shredded cheese and salsa and now you have probably 3 meals worth of tacos with rice as well.

Just keep shit simple, cooking is as complicated or as easy as you want it to be. It usually takes me 20 minutes or less to cook anything i make.

edited to correct rice/water ratio
another cool trick is that you can mix red lentils into your white rice and cook it all together with the same water ratio and cook time. this gives you a complete protein in your one-pot mix. add any veggie and you got a full meal.

just figure out some way to jazz it up if you want it to actually taste exciting, because it's pretty austere by default

and dont try this with brown or green lentils, because they require more cooking time
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Post by: Mongo Lloyd on March 11, 2024, 02:24:30 PM
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i have been really lazy about cooking at home lately and want to change that, gotten to the point where ill walk 30 mins for take out rather then saving money and just cooking for 15 minutes at home.

anybody have some good home cooking tips? i am an incredibly lazy cook, spending an hour in the kitchen fills me with dread. i need something more exciting then chicken and rice to add to my lazy meal prep. any good recipes?

also is a cast iron actually worth it?

rip akira toriyama
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Dude white rice is so easy. 1 cup of rice to 2 cups of water. Put it in a pot bring it to a boil, turn the heat to low and put the lid on. Dont touch it for 20 minutes. Now you have rice as a side the next couple nights. Get some ground beef and throw it in a pan with a little bit of seasoning and cook till brown. Get some tortillas, shredded cheese and salsa and now you have probably 3 meals worth of tacos with rice as well.

Just keep shit simple, cooking is as complicated or as easy as you want it to be. It usually takes me 20 minutes or less to cook anything i make.

edited to correct rice/water ratio
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another cool trick is that you can mix red lentils into your white rice and cook it all together with the same water ratio and cook time. this gives you a complete protein in your one-pot mix. add any veggie and you got a full meal.

just figure out some way to jazz it up if you want it to actually taste exciting, because it's pretty austere by default

and dont try this with brown or green lentils, because they require more cooking time

Rice + lentils and you’ve already partly made Kushari!

Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: wahwahwah on March 11, 2024, 02:32:01 PM
GH is the only thing making skateboarding interesting in the past ten years

watch all the sabotage videos buy the dvds
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Post by: GrayCellGreen on March 11, 2024, 02:37:57 PM
Sounds like some of you guys need a rice cooker. I’m telling you, once you have a good one you’ll never wanna go without.

Bought mine from my Japanese friend before she went back to Japan. Possibly one of the best purchases I’ve ever made.

I've been eyeballing rice cookers for a few years now but I've been hesitant to pull the trigger on one. What brand are you currently using?
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Post by: Mongo Lloyd on March 11, 2024, 02:44:58 PM
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Sounds like some of you guys need a rice cooker. I’m telling you, once you have a good one you’ll never wanna go without.

Bought mine from my Japanese friend before she went back to Japan. Possibly one of the best purchases I’ve ever made.
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I've been eyeballing rice cookers for a few years now but I've been hesitant to pull the trigger on one. What brand are you currently using?

Mine is a Zojirushi. Probably my favorite appliance I own.
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Post by: Allen. on March 11, 2024, 02:48:46 PM
The amount of culture vulturing going on is a tragic. People suggesting others buy a panini maker when not Italian? Suggesting and OPENLY DOXING the recipes for rice based dishes belonging to a culture other than their own? Rice belongs only for the colonized, not to the colonizer. And on top of that, suggesting I buy anything when you don’t know the health of my bank account is classist and worst of all, disgustingly fascistic. Do you know who big rice donates to?
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Post by: HeavyAndExpensive on March 11, 2024, 03:10:16 PM
Lentils are a great legume for quick soups. You can go from dried to soup in under an hour.
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Post by: versacekid420 on March 11, 2024, 03:21:58 PM
white claws and tomato basil harvest snaps
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Post by: texastoast on March 11, 2024, 03:24:31 PM
7-11 jalapeño cream cheese taquitos hit
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Post by: radcunt on March 11, 2024, 03:46:04 PM
All edgelords are based in bitterness and entitlement, as they grow resentment at a world that doesn’t give them what they want or feel they deserve. They embody their privilege as their right and when the world doesn’t match their expectations and experience, it’s how they manage that as they leave their home coccoon and deal with the real world that shapes how far they go down the hole. Show me a dude who dedicates his life to edgy takes who didn’t grow up privileged.


GH seems to mostly be on the right side of stuff, but I’m always a bit dubious of his ironic shtick as it’s always the defence / litmus test for shit ideas. Sam Hyde hid behind his ‘just jokes’ dogshit before it got too much to have to defend his accountability to his racism while crying that the world was unfair to him.


I like GH but I’m always suss of him.
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Post by: Aerozzmith on March 11, 2024, 03:56:56 PM
Do yourselves a favor and get into the InstaPot game. Rice cooker, air fryer, everything you need. It’s as close to a Jetsons kitchen device as the world needs.

This Giftes Hater person sounds awful and a product of the Internet-only media generation.
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Post by: turdtastic on March 11, 2024, 03:57:22 PM
white claws and tomato basil harvest snaps
White claw Surge -  Blood Orange
Pringles - pizza flavor

Keep it trashy with your fave gas station go to yallz
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: lurkluke on March 11, 2024, 04:01:15 PM
white claws and tomato basil harvest snaps

I worked at a beer festival for a while. One year we got a discount on bulk harvest snaps for the office... and did 12 hour days eating pretty much harvest snaps and drinking coffee.

The thought of them makes me sick now.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: HeapsCool on March 11, 2024, 04:02:11 PM
Yeah some weird little cunt who needs to wash his hair dressing like some product of too much anime in lockdown sneering at skaters who don't rely on gimmicky little ugly flip tricks. Feels like as a teenager he would have yelled alot of slurs on xbox live or whatever and giggled about it with his friends. Definitely disproportionately targets black and foreign skaters also but his ego probably tells him he is of the enlightened internet age and is beyond racism.

His influence in skating should be lessened. 
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Post by: thailand on March 11, 2024, 04:09:22 PM
This guy's making 200,000+ grand a year and you guys are mad lol
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Post by: Crust on March 11, 2024, 04:19:57 PM
This guy's making 200,000+ grand a year and you guys are mad lol

Source?
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Post by: No Wave Comply on March 11, 2024, 04:28:48 PM
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ya nah i know Jerry Hsu is class conscious, he put it on the merch.  so when GH does these antics i just wonder why Hsu not givin him guidance

and to be clear i never insinuated GH is shit except a sheltered kid sayin sometimes-naive shit

edit: but regardless dude pretty much runs our culture at this point, so there are real consequences when he teaches kids certain things (champagne-socialist rhetoric) or clowns on certain shit (hot wheels jacket)
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But isn’t that worth clowning lol it’s an objectively dumb jacket

And to wear it while going 0 for 5 on your tricks in street league just adds to the humor and clownability

In that same skate fashion vid he shit on ville wester just as much, and he’s gone in on all the dickies riders like Tom Knox Jamie foy Jake hayes in a much more merciless fashion imo no pun intended
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It'd be funny if Foy rocked up in a matrix duster, or Dicenzo in a valour tracksuit.

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I want to see this so bad. Short chunky boy in a long duster grinding the fuck outta everything.

School Shooter/Trench Coat Mafia chic should've been in the 2024 Skate Trend Forecast.
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Post by: thailand on March 11, 2024, 04:29:49 PM
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This guy's making 200,000+ grand a year and you guys are mad lol
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I wonder what which pros make more money than him at this point. He could possibly make north of 250k annually with his Patreon, YouTube and Twitch numbers.
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there is just no way. he would need regular advertising partners to reach even close to that

seriously would be suprised if its even over 60k after tax, his numbers arent that big
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Right now he has 2609 paid members on Patreon with his cheapest tier being $4.99. Lets say that each member was in the $4.99 tier and that Patreon takes a 20% cut. That alone is ~$10,400 a month
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after tax thats roughly 6k/month, probably a good bit less since not everyone is paying 4.99

some of you guys must be like 15, failed math class, or just have no real life experience
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Comin' out hard with the post tax numbers for earnings ain't how it works.
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3560 Patreon Members @4.99 minimum: $17,764 monthly. $213,172 annually. Minus 8% Patreon Pro fee = $196,118 Gross annually. (his Patreon fee may be grandfathered in at 5%)

YouTube: Since he released his street part last year, his YT has roughly 1,946,190 views. @ a YT average pay rate of .018 per view = $35,031 Gross. Payout can increase based on actual ads viewed.

I'm too lazy to figure out what the fuck a twitch is.

Without Twitch, his low-end, GROSS total is roughly $231,149
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: SatanicPanic on March 11, 2024, 04:34:42 PM
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Sounds like some of you guys need a rice cooker. I’m telling you, once you have a good one you’ll never wanna go without.

Bought mine from my Japanese friend before she went back to Japan. Possibly one of the best purchases I’ve ever made.
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I've been eyeballing rice cookers for a few years now but I've been hesitant to pull the trigger on one. What brand are you currently using?
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Mine is a Zojirushi. Probably my favorite appliance I own.
I have a Tiger brand one. Bought it like fifteen years ago. My ex wife talked me into getting the most expensive one in the store. I regretted it until the first time she used it. Like butter! Best rice ever.

Yes I can make rice in a pot. But why? The cooker makes it perfect every time.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Crust on March 11, 2024, 04:38:29 PM
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This guy's making 200,000+ grand a year and you guys are mad lol
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I wonder what which pros make more money than him at this point. He could possibly make north of 250k annually with his Patreon, YouTube and Twitch numbers.
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there is just no way. he would need regular advertising partners to reach even close to that

seriously would be suprised if its even over 60k after tax, his numbers arent that big
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Right now he has 2609 paid members on Patreon with his cheapest tier being $4.99. Lets say that each member was in the $4.99 tier and that Patreon takes a 20% cut. That alone is ~$10,400 a month
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after tax thats roughly 6k/month, probably a good bit less since not everyone is paying 4.99

some of you guys must be like 15, failed math class, or just have no real life experience
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Comin' out hard with the post tax numbers for earnings ain't how it works.
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3560 Patreon Members @4.99 minimum: $17,764 monthly. $213,172 annually. Minus 8% Patreon Pro fee = $196,118 Gross annually. (his Patreon fee may be grandfathered in at 5%)

YouTube: Since he released his street part last year, his YT has roughly 1,946,190 views. @ a YT average pay rate of .018 per view = $35,031 Gross. Payout can increase based on actual ads viewed.

I'm too lazy to figure out what the fuck a twitch is.

Without Twitch, his low-end, GROSS total is roughly $231,149
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Thanks thailand, nice maths! Wow, never would've imagined his earnings would be in that ballpark, impressive!
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Shtonk on March 11, 2024, 04:42:43 PM
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GH is the only thing making skateboarding interesting in the past ten years
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80% of GH output is summarizing and articulating what is said on Slap or insta comments and doing internet/4chan jokes.
Skateboarding is way more interesting than that, even when it's bad.
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Well, you should stand tall knowing you have a part of making skateboarding interesting. It’s stale, no matter what you say or think. Everyone is a critic, including you and I.  IPath reboot is sweet, BHADW2 was amazing, Nike is fucking whack, no one wants to see another 5050 front shuv, and Kader is fucking blowing it. Whether you think that or GH does, it’s reality. The difference is GH is speaking on it, and you’re bravely sulking in a chat room.
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I don't think those topics are particularily interesting in my eyes. For example, I think Atlantic Drift and Jacob Harris brought something interesting in skateboarding, Japanese contest skaters are bringing something different to skateboarding (whether it's good or bad, it's a different topic...).
GH is speaking on it just as a lot of skaters are speaking on it IRL, the difference is that he uses youtube and makes money of it.
Is it entertaining? Sometimes.
Is it getting old really fast? In my opinion it is.
Is it making skateboarding more interesting? I don't see how.
I can't speak for the 90s, but in the early 2000s people hated just as good as now IRL whether it was on Element, Darkstar, Osisis, Chris Lambert, Josh Kasper, Andy Macdonald or Chad Fernandez.

Except he's making 200k a year doing it, you're not. I wonder how that can be
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: somedudefromnj on March 11, 2024, 04:50:52 PM
Who?

wtf even is the internet/ skateboarding these days?

I keep being reminded I have never understood what is cool.

Hassan Pike isnt skateboarding related (at least I dont think he is). I only know of him from watching Aba and Preach on Youtube haha. I assume he does political commentary or something

i have been really lazy about cooking at home lately and want to change that, gotten to the point where ill walk 30 mins for take out rather then saving money and just cooking for 15 minutes at home.

anybody have some good home cooking tips? i am an incredibly lazy cook, spending an hour in the kitchen fills me with dread. i need something more exciting then chicken and rice to add to my lazy meal prep. any good recipes?

also is a cast iron actually worth it?

rip akira toriyama

was gonna say blackened chicken and throw some sort of salad next to it and call it a day, but then you mentioned excitement


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i don't know if gifted hater is right-wing, but you don't have to be right-wing to not like hasan piker
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didnt Hassan tell one of his trans viewers on one of his streams that they didnt know shit about trans issues?
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I watched hasan for a minute in 2021 before I realized how truly stupid he is…he sucks for sure and his politics are meh, but yeah he said at one point he used to be transphobic before he was a popular streamer and said it was because of “American” conditioning that made him a bigot

I mean I guess when I was a kid I was too. TV made it seem like they'd beat the shit out of me if they caught me in a dark alleyway

and then I turned 12 and realized most people are just trying to survive

anyway if this thread is based off of a sticker, I dont think hes a fascist

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did the thread title say Gofted this whole time? 8 pages for someone who doesnt actually exist?
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Getoffmycurb on March 11, 2024, 06:05:36 PM
The slap messageboard is worse than anything on gifted hater's channel. You're all being indoctrinated by the mods. They control the narrative. Know that any opinion they disagree is going to banned. Anyone that posts something they disagree with gets banned. Banning people is what the new generation is about. Smear campaigns and witch hunts. The next generation of skateboarding is starting to look a like the real fascists. Fuck Nascar!
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: JANUS on March 11, 2024, 06:17:10 PM
The next generation of skateboarding is starting to look a like the real fascists.

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/123/788/1305498934001.jpg)
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: SkatingOnNeptune on March 11, 2024, 06:32:46 PM
All edgelords are based in bitterness and entitlement, as they grow resentment at a world that doesn’t give them what they want or feel they deserve. They embody their privilege as their right and when the world doesn’t match their expectations and experience, it’s how they manage that as they leave their home coccoon and deal with the real world that shapes how far they go down the hole. Show me a dude who dedicates his life to edgy takes who didn’t grow up privileged.


GH seems to mostly be on the right side of stuff, but I’m always a bit dubious of his ironic shtick as it’s always the defence / litmus test for shit ideas. Sam Hyde hid behind his ‘just jokes’ dogshit before it got too much to have to defend his accountability to his racism while crying that the world was unfair to him.


I like GH but I’m always suss of him.

I grew up with some utter trailer trash and they can be edgy as hell.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: layzieyez on March 11, 2024, 07:00:45 PM
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Sounds like some of you guys need a rice cooker. I’m telling you, once you have a good one you’ll never wanna go without.

Bought mine from my Japanese friend before she went back to Japan. Possibly one of the best purchases I’ve ever made.
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Mine is a Zojirushi. Probably my favorite appliance I own.
I also have a Zojirushi. I’ve used it at least weekly for more than 20 years.

If you aren’t trying to buy a one trick pony appliance, buy an instant pot clone from Aldi. It makes good rice and so much more. I think I paid $30 for mine.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Urtripping on March 11, 2024, 07:19:51 PM
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white claws and tomato basil harvest snaps
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White claw Surge -  Blood Orange
Pringles - pizza flavor

Keep it trashy with your fave gas station go to yallz


Modelo Chelada and Chester's Hot Fries - heartburn heaven
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Silky Johnson on March 11, 2024, 07:52:13 PM
On the topic of heartburn heaven I had made a homemade michelada the other day with a can of Vicky Chamoy and that shit hit but definitely needed a few tums after
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: TheSqueebleSquabble on March 11, 2024, 07:59:15 PM
Leave the mans alone. He is just doing the do. I will admit anyone over the age 18 making meme/edgy content is kind of kooky but the boy makes me chuckle from time to time. Racism is a very loose term these days.
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Post by: Banned from the room on March 11, 2024, 08:20:30 PM
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I think gifted leans a little right, or at least leans against liberals

But he is an equal opportunity hater

And he’s been working on a take down video of Tim Pool for a couple weeks now which should be out soon
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Against liberals doesn't mean you're on the right racist tho.

I'm not a big jfk guy or anything. And I'm def not handing out cookies in the streets neo the one style.

I consider myself as just a skater who seen and even sometimes found myself involved in ugliness as a kid. I experienced it too. I want it to die. I want us tribe with out hesitation because we're all skatebloarding.

Talking shit is fine. I actually love it. But attacks that try to subhuman someone in anyway is unacceptable. You can enjoy your toy how you wanna but you can not do that hate shit around here.

People who can't recognize what they're looking at sometimes open up and be like blah blah yuck at me.

My neighbor on election night was like all 1980 memories and Reagan era suck into my ear and how much she loved the man.
Hmmm
I weighed it took a sip of my beer and politely toldl my crazy neighbor I'm going to bed. Talking to me about Reagan on voting day.

How could she think we could unite around that idk. She's rich. Definitely been the victim of some 1970s nightmare.
There's no way I wanna fight again.

Thank the dark lord she didn't say David Duke. My god. People forget that fool ran in 1980.
And BOOM Charlottesville there he is and he was saying on the tv that Trump made promises and now he's gotta pay up. That's on top of the official kkk endorsement!

How the fuck can we be there again back to back. Why aren't both sides running younger people idk. It's like they benefit from the continuation of hate.  ???
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Not a jfk guy myself, but besides adams and Quincy adams jimmy carter was our finest president.
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Carter I agree looks good. His religious views and lack of power base got him killed by Bush the cia and the hostage situation.
He should NOT have fucked with the shah. Good guys can't ever read the room.

Idk if there was any good presidents.

Think about like Ike and his strike first policy. They are all bastards. I have faith in the future. I'd like to see a woman win.  Like a few in a row
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If you read the constitution of Massachusetts for the time it’s extremely progressive, Adams wrote in that all men are born free and equal, and have . . . the right of enjoying and defending their lives and liberties." and when he said all “men” he didn’t just mean white landowning men. He meant black and I believe even gay men.

A women president would be overdue, for me it doesn’t matter If they are man, women, non-binary, transgender, black, white, Latin, Asian, it’s if they truly, truly, love their people that’s all that matters. It’s why I love Carter, that man really did seem to love his fellow Americans. If it wasn’t for Ted Kennedy nixing Carters bill (because he wanted a Kennedys name on it) we would all have healthcare.


It's an important step to creating an equilibrium. By showing people who believe that only the Marlboro Men should be in the chair that woman aren't going to get bit by a snake in the garden of the white house and unmake existence.

This is exactly what people was saying when Hillary was running. Fuckin skaters too.

It's written in the bible yo. Read it....

Lol fuck you kid. You read the bible there the gospel according to Poindexter Paul the rich skatebloarding LSD head.
I said loudly are you ladies ok with this type of talk? Well yeah he's right. Wtf?!?

I don't get it at all. I'm out. I'm not even on acid and I'm doubting this reality I've stumbled into.

See yah. Have fun ladies lol.

Equal Everyone period.

All nothing to do with GH tho. I don't even know who the other cat is. Hasan or whatever.

And I'm not saying I haven't told other antifascist to kick rocks with the ultra Stalin pov. Those fools worry me just as much.

Mao Stalin? No fuckin thank you. I disagree they was framed 110
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Post by: breezy_again on March 11, 2024, 08:47:03 PM
I just discovered these, really good. Ive been eating these and totinos pizza rolls for the last few days, wash it down with a walmart ginger ale.
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been eating these for a minute, good choice
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Post by: ejazzle on March 11, 2024, 09:08:47 PM
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I just discovered these, really good. Ive been eating these and totinos pizza rolls for the last few days, wash it down with a walmart ginger ale.
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been eating these for a minute, good choice

I grabbed a box of these before a trip on a boat that was a week long (had a freezer and little toaster ove). The people I went with brought almost no food. I survived on basically just these for a week straight. I love em.

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i have been really lazy about cooking at home lately and want to change that, gotten to the point where ill walk 30 mins for take out rather then saving money and just cooking for 15 minutes at home.

anybody have some good home cooking tips? i am an incredibly lazy cook, spending an hour in the kitchen fills me with dread. i need something more exciting then chicken and rice to add to my lazy meal prep. any good recipes?

also is a cast iron actually worth it?

rip akira toriyama
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Dude white rice is so easy. 1 cup of rice to 2 cups of water. Put it in a pot bring it to a boil, turn the heat to low and put the lid on. Dont touch it for 20 minutes. Now you have rice as a side the next couple nights. Get some ground beef and throw it in a pan with a little bit of seasoning and cook till brown. Get some tortillas, shredded cheese and salsa and now you have probably 3 meals worth of tacos with rice as well.

Just keep shit simple, cooking is as complicated or as easy as you want it to be. It usually takes me 20 minutes or less to cook anything i make.

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another cool trick is that you can mix red lentils into your white rice and cook it all together with the same water ratio and cook time. this gives you a complete protein in your one-pot mix. add any veggie and you got a full meal.

just figure out some way to jazz it up if you want it to actually taste exciting, because it's pretty austere by default

and dont try this with brown or green lentils, because they require more cooking time
Woahhh 100% going to do this, thank you! Im not huge on meat, I really only eat fish I catch and maybe some chicken here and there. So I don't mind not having some sort of meat. Do you just throw in a couple handfuls?
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Chavo on March 11, 2024, 11:18:28 PM
I tried but couldn't finish any of his videos. His voice is shrill and they seem crudely made (is that part of the appeal?).

The first time I saw skaters in my neighborhood, they belonged to a neo-nazi surf gang. These weren't people of different races ignorantly appropriating gang symbols (even the Dogtown rifa street gang dropped swastikas as an aesthetic device due to its third-reich association). Rather, they were trailer trash who enjoyed beachside living, the product of generations of racial housing covenants and cheap rent from the stench of meth labs. I wonder how skateboarding could survive in a fascist regime? It defies the concept of law and order, respect for private property, and is ultimately a pointless endeavor.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Jack Locke on March 12, 2024, 12:13:36 AM
I really enjoy his content. Nah, he's not a racist at all. He's unabashed and well spoken in his criticisms (hence the GH handle).
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Post by: Turtle Boy on March 12, 2024, 12:20:27 AM
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GH is the only thing making skateboarding interesting in the past ten years
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80% of GH output is summarizing and articulating what is said on Slap or insta comments and doing internet/4chan jokes.
Skateboarding is way more interesting than that, even when it's bad.
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Well, you should stand tall knowing you have a part of making skateboarding interesting. It’s stale, no matter what you say or think. Everyone is a critic, including you and I.  IPath reboot is sweet, BHADW2 was amazing, Nike is fucking whack, no one wants to see another 5050 front shuv, and Kader is fucking blowing it. Whether you think that or GH does, it’s reality. The difference is GH is speaking on it, and you’re bravely sulking in a chat room.
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I don't think those topics are particularily interesting in my eyes. For example, I think Atlantic Drift and Jacob Harris brought something interesting in skateboarding, Japanese contest skaters are bringing something different to skateboarding (whether it's good or bad, it's a different topic...).
GH is speaking on it just as a lot of skaters are speaking on it IRL, the difference is that he uses youtube and makes money of it.
Is it entertaining? Sometimes.
Is it getting old really fast? In my opinion it is.
Is it making skateboarding more interesting? I don't see how.
I can't speak for the 90s, but in the early 2000s people hated just as good as now IRL whether it was on Element, Darkstar, Osisis, Chris Lambert, Josh Kasper, Andy Macdonald or Chad Fernandez.
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Except he's making 200k a year doing it, you're not. I wonder how that can be
What's your point? Thousands of tiktokers are making more money than GH... Should we respect people based on how much money we speculate they make? I'm pretty sure Beatrice Domond makes more money than Josh Stewart, is your point still valid?
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Getoffmycurb on March 12, 2024, 12:36:17 AM
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The slap messageboard is worse than anything on gifted hater's channel. You're all being indoctrinated by the mods. They control the narrative. Know that any opinion they disagree is going to banned. Anyone that posts something they disagree with gets banned. Banning people is what the new generation is about. Smear campaigns and witch hunts. The next generation of skateboarding is starting to look a like the real fascists. Fuck Nascar!
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Joa on his KD shit with this post SMH 😔


Lol. Definitely not gifted hater, you must be the one with the Nascar jackets and dunks.  Why are you wearing 4 pairs of pants? Do need to borrow a belt?
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: i used to skate on March 12, 2024, 04:54:41 AM
Tim pool vid is up on Patreon
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Ghost Face on March 12, 2024, 05:25:49 AM

Tyshawn - King graphics bad, full of himself, switch ollie gate, only pops over stuff
Beatrice - doesnt deserve the opportunities she's been given + no self awareness
KB - doesn't skate enough, "fried"
Kader - same as KB, sponsor hopping, not loyal enough to Baker/bad decision to move to Violet
Carl Aikens - fake steez, pants too big
Robert Neal - hot wheels jacket, got too mad about his comments about hot wheels jacket
Gary Rogers - industry insider, too positive, doesn't have good analysis
Nyjah - obvious criticisms (he actually seems to kinda like Nyjah though funnily enough)
Nak - Lottie's debacle, full of himself, King graphics bad
Lil Wayne - Gave himself a pro board, still can't ollie
Maurio McCoy - too boring
Jeron Wilson - too positive
Stevie Williams - NFT stuff
Steezus Christ - full of himself, doesn't do anything, too positive
Dashawn - music sucks, t-shirt too cropped



This is basically just a list of the top Slap threads of 2023.
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Post by: CronsX on March 12, 2024, 05:56:03 AM
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Tyshawn - King graphics bad, full of himself, switch ollie gate, only pops over stuff
Beatrice - doesnt deserve the opportunities she's been given + no self awareness
KB - doesn't skate enough, "fried"
Kader - same as KB, sponsor hopping, not loyal enough to Baker/bad decision to move to Violet
Carl Aikens - fake steez, pants too big
Robert Neal - hot wheels jacket, got too mad about his comments about hot wheels jacket
Gary Rogers - industry insider, too positive, doesn't have good analysis
Nyjah - obvious criticisms (he actually seems to kinda like Nyjah though funnily enough)
Nak - Lottie's debacle, full of himself, King graphics bad
Lil Wayne - Gave himself a pro board, still can't ollie
Maurio McCoy - too boring
Jeron Wilson - too positive
Stevie Williams - NFT stuff
Steezus Christ - full of himself, doesn't do anything, too positive
Dashawn - music sucks, t-shirt too cropped


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sHuT tHe FuCk Up bRo aNd gO sKaTe BrO iTs dEfinItEly nOt AbOuT RaCe BrO
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: BALARGUE on March 12, 2024, 05:59:25 AM
Can someone explain how stock-car is "ingrained in black culture" ? i genuinely don't see it.
This activity is straight from the south, white dominated from the beginning to this day, pretty rednecky to me.
Is there an appropriation mechanism like the N-word or something ?
or is it just the weakest argument to defend Robert (Kneel to fashion money)?
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: kelbywest on March 12, 2024, 06:00:25 AM
So I read the first two pages of this thread and lost way too many fucking brain cells. What the hell is going on here?
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Post by: Sleazy on March 12, 2024, 06:21:18 AM
So I read the first two pages of this thread and lost way too many fucking brain cells. What the hell is going on here?

As far as I can tell GH is being accused of being culturally insensitive and/or racist for making fun of Robert Niels fits
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Post by: WavyDavy on March 12, 2024, 06:22:29 AM
So I read the first two pages of this thread and lost way too many fucking brain cells. What the hell is going on here?

Boujie boy Gifted hater is a proud boys/boogaloo/Atomwaffen Division member and Great proletarian leader Hasan piker is uniting all workers of the world and freeing us from our chains.
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Post by: GAY on March 12, 2024, 06:39:36 AM
health is wealth

Heath is Wheat…….berry!
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Post by: Newphone on March 12, 2024, 07:34:48 AM
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This guy's making 200,000+ grand a year and you guys are mad lol
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I wonder what which pros make more money than him at this point. He could possibly make north of 250k annually with his Patreon, YouTube and Twitch numbers.
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there is just no way. he would need regular advertising partners to reach even close to that

seriously would be suprised if its even over 60k after tax, his numbers arent that big
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Right now he has 2609 paid members on Patreon with his cheapest tier being $4.99. Lets say that each member was in the $4.99 tier and that Patreon takes a 20% cut. That alone is ~$10,400 a month
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after tax thats roughly 6k/month, probably a good bit less since not everyone is paying 4.99

some of you guys must be like 15, failed math class, or just have no real life experience
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Comin' out hard with the post tax numbers for earnings ain't how it works.
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3560 Patreon Members @4.99 minimum: $17,764 monthly. $213,172 annually. Minus 8% Patreon Pro fee = $196,118 Gross annually. (his Patreon fee may be grandfathered in at 5%)

YouTube: Since he released his street part last year, his YT has roughly 1,946,190 views. @ a YT average pay rate of .018 per view = $35,031 Gross. Payout can increase based on actual ads viewed.

I'm too lazy to figure out what the fuck a twitch is.

Without Twitch, his low-end, GROSS total is roughly $231,149
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Can’t believe people are making close to corrupt magazine editor money streaming.
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Post by: zahed on March 12, 2024, 07:50:47 AM
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This guy's making 200,000+ grand a year and you guys are mad lol
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I wonder what which pros make more money than him at this point. He could possibly make north of 250k annually with his Patreon, YouTube and Twitch numbers.
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there is just no way. he would need regular advertising partners to reach even close to that

seriously would be suprised if its even over 60k after tax, his numbers arent that big
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Right now he has 2609 paid members on Patreon with his cheapest tier being $4.99. Lets say that each member was in the $4.99 tier and that Patreon takes a 20% cut. That alone is ~$10,400 a month
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after tax thats roughly 6k/month, probably a good bit less since not everyone is paying 4.99

some of you guys must be like 15, failed math class, or just have no real life experience
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Comin' out hard with the post tax numbers for earnings ain't how it works.
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3560 Patreon Members @4.99 minimum: $17,764 monthly. $213,172 annually. Minus 8% Patreon Pro fee = $196,118 Gross annually. (his Patreon fee may be grandfathered in at 5%)

YouTube: Since he released his street part last year, his YT has roughly 1,946,190 views. @ a YT average pay rate of .018 per view = $35,031 Gross. Payout can increase based on actual ads viewed.

I'm too lazy to figure out what the fuck a twitch is.

Without Twitch, his low-end, GROSS total is roughly $231,149
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Can’t believe people are making close to corrupt magazine editor money streaming.

i've always found his takes accurate and interesting. i've never found his takes racially charged, but the list provided above is hard to ignore.

he has obviously made a name for himself in the skate community, and i respect that he defends everything he says as opposed to hiding under a rock.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Stu Pickles on March 12, 2024, 07:52:18 AM
200 grand could buy a really nice cast iron pan and home pasta maker
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: hotdogsweatpants on March 12, 2024, 08:08:31 AM
This thread makes me glad I am not American.
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Post by: Coldpizza on March 12, 2024, 08:21:10 AM
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Sounds like some of you guys need a rice cooker. I’m telling you, once you have a good one you’ll never wanna go without.

Bought mine from my Japanese friend before she went back to Japan. Possibly one of the best purchases I’ve ever made.
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I've been eyeballing rice cookers for a few years now but I've been hesitant to pull the trigger on one. What brand are you currently using?
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Mine is a Zojirushi. Probably my favorite appliance I own.

+1 Zojirushi
We eat rice almost everyday in our house. Had been using an insta pot for a while it takes up a lot of counter space and imo the rice isn’t as nice. I can cook rice in a pot but when you eat it as much as I do the rice cooker is fantastic.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: somedudefromnj on March 12, 2024, 08:44:39 AM
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So I read the first two pages of this thread and lost way too many fucking brain cells. What the hell is going on here?
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As far as I can tell GH is being accused of being culturally insensitive and/or racist for making fun of Robert Niels fits

This, but also in another thread Gofted* hater's board has an anti Hassan Piker sticker leading him in direct alignment with the proud boys

This thread makes me glad I am not American.

besides the fact that we are, does this thread confirm that most Americans are fat loud dumb and racist?

God Guns and Country I say

is that how it goes?
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: i used to skate on March 12, 2024, 08:49:04 AM
Tim pool vid is up on Patreon

youtube link
https://youtu.be/aot4JG1EKkE?si=8r0bVS4aFXYVP6TJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aot4JG1EKkE
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Colin Robinson on March 12, 2024, 09:09:33 AM
Dim Tool is a fucking cunt.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: reptar_bar on March 12, 2024, 09:15:32 AM
So many fucking morons on this website. So what if he’s making 200k from YouTube and Patreon? It’s not like he’s taking anything away from your local skate shop or favorite company. Dude is literally making content that is being consumed and getting paid for it.

If that’s actually something bothering you then I really don’t know what to tell you. Maybe get a life or spend some of your own time trying to make some more money. Either way his income for making YouTube / patreon content should have no bearing on your life.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: parasocial skater on March 12, 2024, 09:19:42 AM
Who’s better with money, GH or Mikey Taylor?
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: BootsWithTheFerg on March 12, 2024, 09:37:17 AM
Can someone explain how stock-car is "ingrained in black culture" ? i genuinely don't see it.
This activity is straight from the south, white dominated from the beginning to this day, pretty rednecky to me.
Is there an appropriation mechanism like the N-word or something ?
or is it just the weakest argument to defend Robert (Kneel to fashion money)?

Nascar merch was a pretty hot streetwear trend for a while. Especially them big lettermans jackets with all the sponsors them shits and vintage Dale Earnhardt shirts were really big for a while. I'd imagine that's the aspect of black culture they are talking about but also black people exist in the south and some of them enjoy Nascar. Black people actually be about it they rolling around in Chargers and shit wearing Nascar drip white folk stopped doing that before it was even cool. They too busy with their lifted pickups and fancy coolers.


The term facism these days is like if Bandaid was a buzzword. Not down playing facism as it exists in the modern world, or in previous context historically. Everybody always accusing everyone of being a facist. Labeling everything as facist. It's starting to just be words that dont mean shit. At least in regards to some of this weirdo cancel culture stuff. What even is facism these days anyways shits all so contrived. Escpially when you connecting the dots with the yarn and shit tin foil hat style.

Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Alan on March 12, 2024, 09:37:17 AM
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youtube link
https://youtu.be/aot4JG1EKkE?si=8r0bVS4aFXYVP6TJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aot4JG1EKkE

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This is absolutely a transphobic talking point...

Did he even do any research on this? This is the podium photo from that contest that Silverman is talking about, with the trans woman in first place and Silverman to her right. What physical disadvantage is GH talking about? Being stronger and taller than the winner?
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/05/20/16/58074163-10837837-image-m-3_1653062381565.jpg)

Also, Silverman has lost to literal prepubescent girls in a previous contest (probably more than one, but this is the first link I found https://theboardr.com/results/7281/Exposure-Womens-Vert-Open). Silverman is clearly just a sore loser turned grifter. Taking her grievance seriously is just playing into the anti-trans panic.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: camel filters on March 12, 2024, 09:46:27 AM
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youtube link
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aot4JG1EKkE
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This is absolutely a transphobic talking point...
Because it's easier to just point out a problematic take than to offer a solution, I will bite and ask, what do you think is the best solution? Is it possible to want trans to have all the rights afforded to everyone and still think there are some unfair advantages for trans women to compete? My take is, have competitions be open to all genders, with skill tiers (based on standardized scores for tricks plus obstacle multipliers). If a skater surpasses the cap for a skill tier, they get bumped up.

If you think trans people should be able to enter as it stands now, I am willing to read your reasoning as well. As a disclaimer, Taylor Silverman is a clown and absolutely handled this topic in the worst way possible.

Additionally, GH seems to skate regularly with people in this community. Not that it's their responsibility to, but if they want, maybe he should platform them on their takes. 
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Alan on March 12, 2024, 09:56:49 AM
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youtube link
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aot4JG1EKkE
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20:47
This is absolutely a transphobic talking point...
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Because it's easier to just point out a problematic take than to offer a solution, I will bite and ask, what do you think is the best solution? Is it possible to want trans to have all the rights afforded to everyone and still think there are some unfair advantages for trans women to compete? My take is, have competitions be open to all genders, with skill tiers (based on standardized scores for tricks plus obstacle multipliers). If a skater surpasses the cap for a skill tier, they get bumped up.

If you think trans people should be able to enter as it stands now, I am willing to read your reasoning as well. As a disclaimer, Taylor Silverman is a clown and absolutely handled this topic in the worst way possible.

Additionally, GH seems to skate regularly with people in this community. Not that it's their responsibility to, but if they want, maybe he should platform them on their takes. 

See my edited post. This was just a manufactured story. More broadly, it is a panic, just like the bathroom stuff. Just blown out of proportion with the intent to cause more harm to a very vulnerable group.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: ChrisSennsGirlfriend on March 12, 2024, 09:59:03 AM
above all i believe in and promote equality.

and equality for me means that no one, regardless of race, ethnicity, nationality, age, social class, gender identity, or sexual preferences should be exempt from ridicule for choosing to look like david loy auditioning for the fast and furious.
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Post by: camel filters on March 12, 2024, 10:19:15 AM
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20:47
This is absolutely a transphobic talking point...
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Because it's easier to just point out a problematic take than to offer a solution, I will bite and ask, what do you think is the best solution? Is it possible to want trans to have all the rights afforded to everyone and still think there are some unfair advantages for trans women to compete? My take is, have competitions be open to all genders, with skill tiers (based on standardized scores for tricks plus obstacle multipliers). If a skater surpasses the cap for a skill tier, they get bumped up.

If you think trans people should be able to enter as it stands now, I am willing to read your reasoning as well. As a disclaimer, Taylor Silverman is a clown and absolutely handled this topic in the worst way possible.

Additionally, GH seems to skate regularly with people in this community. Not that it's their responsibility to, but if they want, maybe he should platform them on their takes. 
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See my edited post. This was just a manufactured story. More broadly, it is a panic, just like the bathroom stuff. Just blown out of proportion with the intent to cause more harm to a very vulnerable group.
I get this particular case is ridiculous but I'm thinking about the future of trans women competing. Not considering any of it because of this specific case is short sighted I think. If we approach this without ill intent and think of a good way to include all athletes, I think its a worthy conversation. We can recognize that this talking point is weaponized to cause harm and still know there's a worthy discussion to be had. Otherwise, it feels like it's just "Oh they are just trying to be dicks. Let's just call it that until the next viral moment that outrages every side."

Again, my original idea of skill tier'd competitions that is genderless seems doable unless there's an obvious fault to it. I think it's inclusive and also merit based.

Also, it's funny he criticizes tim pool later on in the vid for causing unwarranted outrage while saying what he did about Taylor.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Getoffmycurb on March 12, 2024, 10:20:59 AM
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Can someone explain how stock-car is "ingrained in black culture" ? i genuinely don't see it.
This activity is straight from the south, white dominated from the beginning to this day, pretty rednecky to me.
Is there an appropriation mechanism like the N-word or something ?
or is it just the weakest argument to defend Robert (Kneel to fashion money)?
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Nascar merch was a pretty hot streetwear trend for a while. Especially them big lettermans jackets with all the sponsors them shits and vintage Dale Earnhardt shirts were really big for a while. I'd imagine that's the aspect of black culture they are talking about but also black people exist in the south and some of them enjoy Nascar. Black people actually be about it they rolling around in Chargers and shit wearing Nascar drip white folk stopped doing that before it was even cool. They too busy with their lifted pickups and fancy coolers.


The term facism these days is like if Bandaid was a buzzword. Not down playing facism as it exists in the modern world, or in previous context historically. Everybody always accusing everyone of being a facist. Labeling everything as facist. It's starting to just be words that dont mean shit. At least in regards to some of this weirdo cancel culture stuff. What even is facism these days anyways shits all so contrived. Escpially when you connecting the dots with the yarn and shit tin foil hat style.

Thank you for your input. Skateboarding was generally a white thing until Ray Barbee came around. I know there were others, he's jus my favorite. But jacki Robinson in baseball, tiger woods in golf. Basketball. I know you all don't think skateboarding is a sport. Are we saying here that gifted hater is like this ole granpa that is upset these kids are mucking up our thing. I'm not so much bothered by fits as what's actually going on in your head. At some point girl broke from plan b and everything went mad basic. Plain white tee normal sized pants. It's classy. All these attention seeking outfits I feel like kids want attention suggests they can't let the skateboarding do the talking. They need to compensate. Nothing drippy you wear ever improves a clip. I promise you 20 years from now, you will wish you were wearing a plain white t and normal pants in that banger.. we are skateboarding though. Not as old as some of these other things but I feel we should be able to make fun of each other on and off the court. I'm sure Shaq himself would call Robert Neal a corny ass Dennis rodman. That shit is funny. If you're getting roasted you're probably loved. I'm not gifted hater but I'll liken him to pat bev or Draymond.  If he talking about you, you a problem... That's a good thing. He's the best thing that could have ever happened for Nyjah. alll us old guys love Nyjah more than sammytown from Fang. . gifted is playing a villain but how much press all these black kids getting? Tons! Gifted loves you. He is not skip Bayless. He actually skates. The list of skaters above he's trashed is a testament to how much he appreciates the content you're providing. Wear what you want. Gifted hater is by no means an authority on anything. His opinion doesn't really matter like that. He's got tons of mental disorders like most other skaters. If you love gifted hater like he loves you then wear the most outrageous shit you can find when you do your lil bangers and half court shots. YouTube is not going to ban him. They actually have experts look into that stuff. What's truly racist is this messageboard. I've sifted through this place a ton and these moderators should be in prison.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Getoffmycurb on March 12, 2024, 10:27:01 AM
I also compare gifted to Pat bev or Draymond cause he's a defensive anchor for skateboarding. It's nice to have an uncensored microphone outside the slap messageboard. We are not going to get banned from posting comments on his videos, like the slap messageboard bans all posts and posters they disagree with.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Alan on March 12, 2024, 10:41:48 AM
@camel filters If you're asking me to look at the bigger picture, I'd offer a counterargument that trans people in sports is already being used as a backdoor tactic to normalize imposing wider restrictions on them. Meeting the people who push for these restriction halfway or whatever is already an L. The fact that some trans skaters have won some 3rd tier contests shouldn't raise any alarm bells, imho. Who cares.

And btw, this case is ridiculous to you and me, but it's clearly being used uncritically by GH to JAQ-off. His viewers won't take the time to look into the details and will just take his word for it.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: DillsDarts on March 12, 2024, 10:44:20 AM
If you seriously think commenting on a community through comedic dialogue and including every aspect / group of that community is racist or fascist, it’s time to log off… Calling out someone in a hot-wheels jacket for being stupid is not racist or even a sliver or a micro-aggression, it’s comedic commentary. What he is doing is all supposed to be from a comedic angle, so if you are fine with the jokeshe’s making about white people, and clearly understand that what he is saying is a joke, how when he makes the same jokes about other races is it seen as racist? Are you racist enough to think that these groups can’t take jokes? There is no arbitrary line in the sand of what is funny and what is not, somethings will be funny to some and not to others, just like tastebuds…
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Newphone on March 12, 2024, 11:14:28 AM
@camel filters If you're asking me to look at the bigger picture, I'd offer a counterargument that trans people in sports is already being used as a backdoor tactic to normalize imposing wider restrictions on them. Meeting the people who push for these restriction halfway or whatever is already an L. The fact that some trans skaters have won some 3rd tier contests shouldn't raise any alarm bells, imho. Who cares.

And btw, this case is ridiculous to you and me, but it's clearly being used uncritically by GH to JAQ-off. His viewers won't take the time to look into the details and will just take his word for it.

It’s being used as a weapon but that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s a clear cut issue.  The southern border is also being used as a weapon, but both sides agree that the policies regarding the boarder are in need of addressing.

I get what you are feeling/ saying here Alan, that ceding any ground on an issue to someone who’s motives are questionable or disingenuous can be problematic or be a slippery slope for use in issues that are less deserving of ANY compromise, but that stance has its own negative secondary and tertiary effects.  To moderate or independent Americans appearing immovable on problems that seem more nuanced (say someone who’s all for trans rights but thinks that there is work to be done in figuring out the right solution vis-à-vis competitive sports) I don’t think this stance is always effective in winning over the majority to your side.  I think this is the exact reason that the right focuses on these issues, to make the left look illogical to the moderate, and ideally win these moderates over.

I’m not saying I agree with GH take on the issue (haven’t heard that part yet) but I think it’s ok to have a stance such as “that particular issue is developing, and I’m not 100% sure what the solution should be when it comes to competition.  I know that I want a solution that is non discriminatory, fair, and compassionate to all competitors though.”

I do agree that it is usually the a far right religious competitor who has been the figure head of these complaints, but I don’t think the validity of the complaint should be judged by who the   complainant is.  That’s pretty foundational to American law.

While Taylor’s case can be seen as low stakes, the ncaa swimming case that received national attention (in no small part due to republicans using it for political gains) is something that will sway sway the electorate in coming elections.  It’s important to address it fairly and appear thoughtful of it’s implications.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Aerozzmith on March 12, 2024, 11:26:27 AM
Gofted Hater should just start talking shit on Slap to fully complete the Ouroboros of internet skateboard commentary mad hating. This is starting to feel 4D.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: herecomesaregular on March 12, 2024, 11:29:38 AM
To that fascist piece of shit, GH for whatever he’s saying in agreement, and you that are wishy-washy half-justifying transphobic nonsense: trans people have literally always existed, always played sports, and always competed in things. You are only even aware and give a shit now because the far right wants trans people out of public life completely or dead, so they use this as a wedge issue to normalize trans panic and dehumanize trans women.

It’s not even remotely difficult to just leave trans people the fuck alone.

Do that.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Getoffmycurb on March 12, 2024, 11:37:12 AM
And if anyone's reading at all, I was just trolling with fuck Nascar comments, anything on wheels is pretty sick, just more into monster trucks. I haven't seen any of these Robert Neal clips yet but now am very intrigued. Must be some bangers, maybe it's a superstitious  jacket. I think skaters can ball and do any sports. Leticia driving race cars too and few skaters in town fix up their cars. Sends a good message to young skaters. You don't have to do this bullshit, you can race cars. Skateboarding should be a stepping stone to do greater things. I think if there were more interest in monster trucks, we could get rid of a lot of these homeless camps, Is gifted saying black kids shouldn't be driving race cars? I'm starting to see why gifted feels so threatened.

On the other hand you are mixing two things, like skaters and thrasher gatekeeping, Nascar fans don't get mad at their fans for wearing the jackets. Unlike skateboarding they appreciate the support. I actually love gas guzzling Nascar, and that's not the point..

Does he even drive a race car? The clip makes me wanna see his race car. I think gifted wants to see the race car too. Think about all the autistic skaters out there.. I gotta see the whip. Hypothetically. Right? You wouldn't be repping Nascar if you weren't into that shit.. if you're making good money as pro skater, it just seems to make sense the next step up would be racing cars, especially that freestyle gymkhana stuff. Monster trucks are actually hitting rails upside down and doing shit. Son of grave digger is awesome. Lots of resources..

But yeah just more into monster trucks Nascar is cool. Anything on wheels is a go, especially when there's 4 of em and the tires are made with children's blood.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: sk4terX on March 12, 2024, 11:38:19 AM
To the peeps rushing to defend GH

He associates with Ricky Glaser and Tim Pool

/fucking thread
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: sk4terX on March 12, 2024, 11:39:10 AM
To that fascist piece of shit, GH for whatever he’s saying in agreement, and you that are wishy-washy half-justifying transphobic nonsense: trans people have literally always existed, always played sports, and always competed in things. You are only even aware and give a shit now because the far right wants trans people out of public life completely or dead, so they use this as a wedge issue to normalize trans panic and dehumanize trans women.

It’s not even remotely difficult to just leave trans people the fuck alone.

Do that.

Based
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: camel filters on March 12, 2024, 11:39:52 AM
@camel filters If you're asking me to look at the bigger picture, I'd offer a counterargument that trans people in sports is already being used as a backdoor tactic to normalize imposing wider restrictions on them. Meeting the people who push for these restriction halfway or whatever is already an L. The fact that some trans skaters have won some 3rd tier contests shouldn't raise any alarm bells, imho. Who cares.

And btw, this case is ridiculous to you and me, but it's clearly being used uncritically by GH to JAQ-off. His viewers won't take the time to look into the details and will just take his word for it.
Meeting these people halfway was not on my agenda. My suggestion for the genderless, skill tier based competition was a theory that could have even more trans people compete openly and on the merit of their skills (which is what everyone wants to be judged by). I wouldn't say alarm bells were raised by Ricci winning a inconsequential contest. I would just say it makes me think of what a sustainable competition environment where no one has to hide to compete would look like.


It’s not even remotely difficult to just leave trans people the fuck alone.

Do that.
Or we can just do this. Business as usual because it's been wonderful.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Getoffmycurb on March 12, 2024, 11:55:54 AM
To the peeps rushing to defend GH

He associates with Ricky Glaser and Tim Pool

/fucking thread

Ricky Glaser is deplorable, tim pool is insignificant. His skateboarding skills do not merit his opinion worthy of being considered on a skateboarding messageboard. Jason Jesse's opinion here should be more valid than Tim pools. Aaron kyro, one of the most deplorable people alive's opinion should be considered over tim pool. Steve berra, Yonnie's herpes, Jesse Vieira, Weckingball, Forrest Edwards, Biebel, Terry Kennedy, Gator,Mikey Taylor, opinion over Tim Pool. Fuck that guy. He has contributed zero nothing to skateboarding. Why the fuck are you even talking about this guy here? Get that shit off your screen. That's not skateboarding related at all, it's entirely different content for different types of folks that really love Nascar and are terrified of black kids driving race cars.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: grandslam on March 12, 2024, 12:00:53 PM
To the peeps rushing to defend GH

He associates with Ricky Glaser and Tim Pool

/fucking thread

Am I crazy or was that entire video absolutely SHITTING on Tim Pool and his persona / politics? Are we living in two different universes? The dude has never even crossed paths with the guy and spends over an hour shutting down his takes.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: sk4terX on March 12, 2024, 12:10:31 PM
Wants to throw all this heat on gifted hater but cant handle a little heat over himself, remember that next time you try to do this to people

literally go fuck your own face
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Getoffmycurb on March 12, 2024, 12:16:41 PM
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Am I crazy or was that entire video absolutely SHITTING on Tim Pool and his persona / politics? Are we living in two different universes? The dude has never even crossed paths with the guy and spends over an hour shutting down his takes.

For real. I don't even watch gifted hater cause I have zero interest in watching skateboarding and that's all he covers but I've seen enough of his videos. The way he did Nakel made me actually see what a trust fund piece of shit that lotties guy is and not interested in a lot of that shit anymore brands that do graphics with that guy. I give Nyjah the benefit of the doubt. I've seen enough that if I do wanna see what's going on in skating maybe look at a video, probably not, def not watching 99 % of anything skateboarding related. It's all the same shit.

Aaron Kyro is probably in reality 100 times worse than Tim Pool though. When he got caught with that pedo in his squad, is when that ship shoulda sank. Anyone in the industry supporting that guy or doing business with him should really rethink that, cause that shit is super sketchy.. I'm surprised not surprised he's getting away with that shit in the bay. I guess the kids in the Nascar jackets don't know about his dirty business.
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Post by: grandslam on March 12, 2024, 12:19:10 PM
Off topic but because you brought it up, Mike from Lottie’s is far from a trust fund piece of shit. Don’t know how you came to that conclusion from a GH video.

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Am I crazy or was that entire video absolutely SHITTING on Tim Pool and his persona / politics? Are we living in two different universes? The dude has never even crossed paths with the guy and spends over an hour shutting down his takes.
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For real. I don't even watch gifted hater cause I have zero interest in watching skateboarding and that's all he covers but I've seen enough of his videos. The way he did Nakel made me actually see what a trust fund piece of shit that lotties guy is
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Hypnotoad on March 12, 2024, 12:24:38 PM
Jesus I had never encountered Tim Pool until this new GH video

He’s maybe the dumbest motherfucker I’ve ever heard talk
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: ish_wav on March 12, 2024, 12:28:51 PM
Jesus I had never encountered Tim Pool until this new GH video

He’s maybe the dumbest motherfucker I’ve ever heard talk

Someone post the link I’m not trying to become a patreon lol
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Getoffmycurb on March 12, 2024, 12:30:37 PM
It's hyperbole. Come to whatever conclusion you want. Mike is cool. I get it.  But Nakel is from the hood and he didn't want to carry nakels shit cause he thought it was corny. Exactly what we're talking about with the Nascar jackets. Why can't he just get some of nakels stuff. That's Kareem's nephew we're talking about. Mike made a bad business move and Nakel went nuclear bipolar over the rejection. I looked Mike up his family. There's a wiki. I hate the privilege debate but please feel free to debunk... Selling Pants for 500 dollars.. the art is ok I guess, if we could go back in time, I'm sure he'd probably just carry the stuff, all I saw was the gifted video. Probably the first time gifted ever displayed his influence. Whatever is information or disinformation is up to you, but yeah, right after all that shit everyone was hyping lotties, everyone, and since I seen the gifted video I don't even care about this lotties clown, don't mess with Nak. You're wearing lotties we gonna fuck you up.  That's why he went out of business even though everyone in power tried to hype his shit. He is not or will never be neckFace.

*It was one gifteds first videos and he ended up taking it down in consideration to Nakel. Not Lotties, But most people that saw the video and knew what really went down,  know what happened and Lotties skate shop ended up having to close shop. There were a bunch of arguments over who could carry what from what brand in proximity to other skate shops in the area.. a bunch of shit went down. There should be an epicly later'd about it cause that guy got epicly later'd. That's just what all my sources have told me. I just know that Nakel is Kareem's nephew and this guy is a grown ass man with a skate shop. Shit doesn't add up to me so I'm suspicious of everyone this dude hangs out with and the folks doing business with this guy, his art, all that shit. His art doesn't mean that much cause he comes from a ton of money is all I've ever heard.. Nakel = Kareem Campbell's nephew. There's really no debate.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: reptar_bar on March 12, 2024, 12:32:36 PM
To the peeps rushing to defend GH

He associates with Ricky Glaser and Tim Pool

/fucking thread

How does he associate with Tim Pool? Can you clarify please.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Banned from the room on March 12, 2024, 12:37:30 PM
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I just discovered these, really good. Ive been eating these and totinos pizza rolls for the last few days, wash it down with a walmart ginger ale.
(https://assets.wakefern.com/is/image/wakefern/7100772211-001?$Mi9Product_detail$)
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been eating these for a minute, good choice

Y'all are Tripping  :-X :-X no thanks yo
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Ninj2 on March 12, 2024, 12:39:09 PM
Joa constrictor that would be a cool name for his comp any It could have the line free or die thing but be joa rattle snake or whatever. He would fit good in snake farmDo they have a video game out yet where you can build teams? I would just move him over to snake farm like what the fuck Jerry. Did you know he just MJ in a wig and glasses skating stupid? No way. Yeah breh. Angel hair pasta is the best pasta I break that shit in half too.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Sick_McCrank_ on March 12, 2024, 12:39:10 PM
Since we’re all here again. Can we just go back to cooking Sick_McCrank. I can be like Jesus. Taking all them sins.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Banned from the room on March 12, 2024, 12:41:22 PM
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I think gifted leans a little right, or at least leans against liberals

But he is an equal opportunity hater

And he’s been working on a take down video of Tim Pool for a couple weeks now which should be out soon
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Against liberals doesn't mean you're on the right racist tho.

I'm not a big jfk guy or anything. And I'm def not handing out cookies in the streets neo the one style.

I consider myself as just a skater who seen and even sometimes found myself involved in ugliness as a kid. I experienced it too. I want it to die. I want us tribe with out hesitation because we're all skatebloarding.

Talking shit is fine. I actually love it. But attacks that try to subhuman someone in anyway is unacceptable. You can enjoy your toy how you wanna but you can not do that hate shit around here.

People who can't recognize what they're looking at sometimes open up and be like blah blah yuck at me.

My neighbor on election night was like all 1980 memories and Reagan era suck into my ear and how much she loved the man.
Hmmm
I weighed it took a sip of my beer and politely toldl my crazy neighbor I'm going to bed. Talking to me about Reagan on voting day.

How could she think we could unite around that idk. She's rich. Definitely been the victim of some 1970s nightmare.
There's no way I wanna fight again.

Thank the dark lord she didn't say David Duke. My god. People forget that fool ran in 1980.
And BOOM Charlottesville there he is and he was saying on the tv that Trump made promises and now he's gotta pay up. That's on top of the official kkk endorsement!

How the fuck can we be there again back to back. Why aren't both sides running younger people idk. It's like they benefit from the continuation of hate.  ???
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Not a jfk guy myself, but besides adams and Quincy adams jimmy carter was our finest president.
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Carter I agree looks good. His religious views and lack of power base got him killed by Bush the cia and the hostage situation.
He should NOT have fucked with the shah. Good guys can't ever read the room.

Idk if there was any good presidents.

Think about like Ike and his strike first policy. They are all bastards. I have faith in the future. I'd like to see a woman win.  Like a few in a row
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If you read the constitution of Massachusetts for the time it’s extremely progressive, Adams wrote in that all men are born free and equal, and have . . . the right of enjoying and defending their lives and liberties." and when he said all “men” he didn’t just mean white landowning men. He meant black and I believe even gay men.

A women president would be overdue, for me it doesn’t matter If they are man, women, non-binary, transgender, black, white, Latin, Asian, it’s if they truly, truly, love their people that’s all that matters. It’s why I love Carter, that man really did seem to love his fellow Americans. If it wasn’t for Ted Kennedy nixing Carters bill (because he wanted a Kennedys name on it) we would all have healthcare.
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It's an important step to creating an equilibrium. By showing people who believe that only the Marlboro Men should be in the chair that woman aren't going to get bit by a snake in the garden of the white house and unmake existence.

This is exactly what people was saying when Hillary was running. Fuckin skaters too.

It's written in the bible yo. Read it....

Lol fuck you kid. You read the bible there the gospel according to Poindexter Paul the rich skatebloarding LSD head.
I said loudly are you ladies ok with this type of talk? Well yeah he's right. Wtf?!?

I don't get it at all. I'm out. I'm not even on acid and I'm doubting this reality I've stumbled into.

See yah. Have fun ladies lol.

Equal Everyone period.

All nothing to do with GH tho. I don't even know who the other cat is. Hasan or whatever.

And I'm not saying I haven't told other antifascist to kick rocks with the ultra Stalin pov. Those fools worry me just as much.

Mao Stalin? No fuckin thank you. I disagree they was framed 110
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Snuff or tin can folklore

That's the impossible question isn't it.

I gotta back Jason. I love that fool. Also when I was a kid it was he and Hensley I got comparison too. Mmmm the most soul tingling bum smoke ever. Yes baste my bottom boio.

I'm going visual sound over Tin can tho.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Banned from the room on March 12, 2024, 12:43:01 PM
Tim pool vid is up on Patreon

Dude should paytreon me to watch.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: bluntfullofmid on March 12, 2024, 12:53:57 PM
not reading thru all this thread cause i know GH already borders on kooky behavior but i've always thought it was weird that GH has this Qanon/right wing leaning mindset but is very close friends with chandler barton and rides for the same brand as arin lester. makes me wonder if some awkward conversations have ever been had in the van?
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: GrayCellGreen on March 12, 2024, 12:57:49 PM
Since we’re all here again. Can we just go back to cooking Sick_McCrank. I can be like Jesus. Taking all them sins.

Yes, but only because you used "cook" instead of kook.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: lurkluke on March 12, 2024, 12:58:10 PM
not reading thru all this thread cause i know GH already borders on kooky behavior but i've always thought it was weird they GH has this Qanon/right wing leaning mindset but is very close friends with chandler barton and rides for the same brand as arin lester. makes me wonder if some awkward conversations have ever been had in the van?

What are you talking about qanon tendancies.

I get people not liking GH but some of these accusations are bordering on some qanon fantasy shit themselves.

Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: camel filters on March 12, 2024, 01:04:20 PM
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Jesus I had never encountered Tim Pool until this new GH video

He’s maybe the dumbest motherfucker I’ve ever heard talk
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Someone post the link I’m not trying to become a patreon lol
You're also not trying to become a person that skims at least a page before you post. The youtube link is there.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: camel filters on March 12, 2024, 01:06:37 PM
It's hyperbole. Come to whatever conclusion you want. Mike is cool. I get it.  But Nakel is from the hood and he didn't want to carry nakels shit cause he thought it was corny. Exactly what we're talking about with the Nascar jackets. Why can't he just get some of nakels stuff. That's Kareem's nephew we're talking about. Mike made a bad business move and Nakel went nuclear bipolar over the rejection. I looked Mike up his family. There's a wiki. I hate the privilege debate but please feel free to debunk... Selling Pants for 500 dollars.. the art is ok I guess, if we could go back in time, I'm sure he'd probably just carry the stuff, all I saw was the gifted video. Probably the first time gifted ever displayed his influence. Whatever is information or disinformation is up to you, but yeah, right after all that shit everyone was hyping lotties, everyone, and since I seen the gifted video I don't even care about this lotties clown, don't mess with Nak. You're wearing lotties we gonna fuck you up.  That's why he went out of business even though everyone in power tried to hype his shit. He is not or will never be neckFace.

*It was one gifteds first videos and he ended up taking it down in consideration to Nakel. Not Lotties, But most people that saw the video and knew what really went down,  know what happened and Lotties skate shop ended up having to close shop. There were a bunch of arguments over who could carry what from what brand in proximity to other skate shops in the area.. a bunch of shit went down. There should be an epicly later'd about it cause that guy got epicly later'd. That's just what all my sources have told me. I just know that Nakel is Kareem's nephew and this guy is a grown ass man with a skate shop. Shit doesn't add up to me so I'm suspicious of everyone this dude hangs out with and the folks doing business with this guy, his art, all that shit. His art doesn't mean that much cause he comes from a ton of money is all I've ever heard.. Nakel = Kareem Campbell's nephew. There's really no debate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mt3baig0XQ&t=2290s
Dude had cancer and was probably over seeing Nakel bitch and moan about how unfair and racist the industry is all while putting out minimal parts while having a sponsor list most nobodies would kill for.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: frontsideNECKTIE on March 12, 2024, 01:19:57 PM
Haven't popped on Slap since this weekend, and we're 12 pages in. Something something salvia, something something rice cooker

Is GH a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding? Kinda looking for a yes or no answer so I don't have to open this thread again

Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: yghartsyrt on March 12, 2024, 01:35:58 PM
not reading thru all this thread cause i know GH already borders on kooky behavior but i've always thought it was weird they GH has this Qanon/right wing leaning mindset but is very close friends with chandler barton and rides for the same brand as arin lester. makes me wonder if some awkward conversations have ever been had in the van?
Maybe being close friends with Chandler, Arin out Ryan means that he‘s not that kind of a nutjob people make him out to be - but judging from this thread this conclusion seems to be a little bit too much of a stretch for some people. Who is friends with someone, who has a completely contrary mindset?
Anyways. Don’t really care much about GH besides being something to watch at work or while cooking.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: bluntfullofmid on March 12, 2024, 01:43:07 PM
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not reading thru all this thread cause i know GH already borders on kooky behavior but i've always thought it was weird they GH has this Qanon/right wing leaning mindset but is very close friends with chandler barton and rides for the same brand as arin lester. makes me wonder if some awkward conversations have ever been had in the van?
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What are you talking about qanon tendancies.

I get people not liking GH but some of these accusations are bordering on some qanon fantasy shit themselves.
i mean were you not watching when he first started during the pandemic? he had some spicy takes then. and someone a page back also posted his patreon video with him talking about trans people being in contests with cis gendered people.

tbh this dude i could care less what this GH says, i'm a grown man who can make my own choices, but he has to admint that he has a HUGE voice for the younger generation and should be aware/held accountable for that
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Getoffmycurb on March 12, 2024, 01:48:53 PM
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It's hyperbole. Come to whatever conclusion you want. Mike is cool. I get it.  But Nakel is from the hood and he didn't want to carry nakels shit cause he thought it was corny. Exactly what we're talking about with the Nascar jackets. Why can't he just get some of nakels stuff. That's Kareem's nephew we're talking about. Mike made a bad business move and Nakel went nuclear bipolar over the rejection. I looked Mike up his family. There's a wiki. I hate the privilege debate but please feel free to debunk... Selling Pants for 500 dollars.. the art is ok I guess, if we could go back in time, I'm sure he'd probably just carry the stuff, all I saw was the gifted video. Probably the first time gifted ever displayed his influence. Whatever is information or disinformation is up to you, but yeah, right after all that shit everyone was hyping lotties, everyone, and since I seen the gifted video I don't even care about this lotties clown, don't mess with Nak. You're wearing lotties we gonna fuck you up.  That's why he went out of business even though everyone in power tried to hype his shit. He is not or will never be neckFace.

*It was one gifteds first videos and he ended up taking it down in consideration to Nakel. Not Lotties, But most people that saw the video and knew what really went down,  know what happened and Lotties skate shop ended up having to close shop. There were a bunch of arguments over who could carry what from what brand in proximity to other skate shops in the area.. a bunch of shit went down. There should be an epicly later'd about it cause that guy got epicly later'd. That's just what all my sources have told me. I just know that Nakel is Kareem's nephew and this guy is a grown ass man with a skate shop. Shit doesn't add up to me so I'm suspicious of everyone this dude hangs out with and the folks doing business with this guy, his art, all that shit. His art doesn't mean that much cause he comes from a ton of money is all I've ever heard.. Nakel = Kareem Campbell's nephew. There's really no debate.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mt3baig0XQ&t=2290s
Dude had cancer and was probably over seeing Nakel bitch and moan about how unfair and racist the industry is all while putting out minimal parts while having a sponsor list most nobodies would kill for.

That really unfortunate it all went down like that. Never knew that he had cancer when all that was going down, if so, makes Nak look like a real piece of shit. Makes Kareem look bad. It reflects poorly on his family if he was actually fighting someone battling cancer.. that's really messed up. Nakel should probably apologize if he hasn't already.. it's not the worst thing that ever happened. Yonnie's herpes was way way worse. It's all just gossip. We need gossip to survive. If you don't want to get involved in gossip just stop wearing Nascar jackets and pull up your pants a little and everyone will stop paying attention. Overall I think it boosted sales for everyone and the silver lining is all those pants and shit are probably worth a lot more money now if he did make em battling cancer and doing all that shit. He probably got exhausted by doing too much stuff and had to close. I thought it was strange everyone was doing collabs.. gifted deleted the video and just didn't post any of the cancer stuff and didn't post follow up videos, certain subject material for certain he does not discuss in his channel I've noticed.. some crazy shit and he's mum on certain darker things like yonnie's herpes. Did he talk about the herpes?.. it's usually light stuff, nothing too serious.. there was footage of Nakel and his homies ripping up lotties skate stuff, their shirts off their back of kids wearing lotties stuff at the skatepark. There might be a thread when it all went down talking about it but Im pretty sure I never read anywhere that he'd had cancer while it was happening. Brutal.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: JANUS on March 12, 2024, 01:55:09 PM
This thread makes me glad I am not American own a cast iron pan.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: lurkluke on March 12, 2024, 01:58:18 PM
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not reading thru all this thread cause i know GH already borders on kooky behavior but i've always thought it was weird they GH has this Qanon/right wing leaning mindset but is very close friends with chandler barton and rides for the same brand as arin lester. makes me wonder if some awkward conversations have ever been had in the van?
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What are you talking about qanon tendancies.

I get people not liking GH but some of these accusations are bordering on some qanon fantasy shit themselves.
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i mean were you not watching when he first started during the pandemic? he had some spicy takes then. and someone a page back also posted his patreon video with him talking about trans people being in contests with cis gendered people.

tbh this dude i could care less what this GH says, i'm a grown man who can make my own choices, but he has to admint that he has a HUGE voice for the younger generation and should be aware/held accountable for that

For what exactly? You're making vague claims about him having "spicy takes" on the pandemic. What does that mean?

His takes on trans in competitions do align with the alt right chuds, but I think it aligns with a large chunk of society. I can't speak either way on the issue so I'm not going to defend him or try refute him, but I'm not sure that makes him a fascist qanon guy; because if it does, probably most of your friends and family are too.

Fwiw: here are some arguments against his. I haven't read them. I'll read them now.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trans-girls-belong-on-girls-sports-teams/

https://www.aclu.org/news/lgbtq-rights/four-myths-about-trans-athletes-debunked
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: SatanicPanic on March 12, 2024, 01:59:07 PM
lol you nerds managed to get GH to respond. Well done hahaha

Haven’t heard Hasan Piker but I really don’t need a YouTuber explaining politics to me. Sounds lame.

GH obviously doesn’t like Tim Pool and who cares if he hangs with Ricky Glaser? Maybe Glaser will learn something from hanging with GHs friends.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: No Wave Comply on March 12, 2024, 02:10:39 PM
It's hyperbole. Come to whatever conclusion you want. Mike is cool. I get it.  But Nakel is from the hood and he didn't want to carry nakels shit cause he thought it was corny. Exactly what we're talking about with the Nascar jackets. Why can't he just get some of nakels stuff. That's Kareem's nephew we're talking about. Mike made a bad business move and Nakel went nuclear bipolar over the rejection. I looked Mike up his family. There's a wiki. I hate the privilege debate but please feel free to debunk... Selling Pants for 500 dollars.. the art is ok I guess, if we could go back in time, I'm sure he'd probably just carry the stuff, all I saw was the gifted video. Probably the first time gifted ever displayed his influence. Whatever is information or disinformation is up to you, but yeah, right after all that shit everyone was hyping lotties, everyone, and since I seen the gifted video I don't even care about this lotties clown, don't mess with Nak. You're wearing lotties we gonna fuck you up.  That's why he went out of business even though everyone in power tried to hype his shit. He is not or will never be neckFace.

*It was one gifteds first videos and he ended up taking it down in consideration to Nakel. Not Lotties, But most people that saw the video and knew what really went down,  know what happened and Lotties skate shop ended up having to close shop. There were a bunch of arguments over who could carry what from what brand in proximity to other skate shops in the area.. a bunch of shit went down. There should be an epicly later'd about it cause that guy got epicly later'd. That's just what all my sources have told me. I just know that Nakel is Kareem's nephew and this guy is a grown ass man with a skate shop. Shit doesn't add up to me so I'm suspicious of everyone this dude hangs out with and the folks doing business with this guy, his art, all that shit. His art doesn't mean that much cause he comes from a ton of money is all I've ever heard.. Nakel = Kareem Campbell's nephew. There's really no debate.

So everyone should care about a half-baked clothing brand that never got off the ground (A Dream No Longer Deferred) because of nepotism (Nak being Kareem's nephew) and Mike Gigliotti should be eighty-sixed because he comes from money and didn't want to carry said half-baked clothing brand in his skate shop and also, Baker/Deathwish should be boycotted for employing and hanging out with Gigliotti?

Got it. You're so right. Wow. Thanks for breaking it all down like that for me. It was and is completely rational and warranted to assault people for wearing Lottie's gear.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: InkkeACAB on March 12, 2024, 02:14:29 PM
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It's hyperbole. Come to whatever conclusion you want. Mike is cool. I get it.  But Nakel is from the hood and he didn't want to carry nakels shit cause he thought it was corny. Exactly what we're talking about with the Nascar jackets. Why can't he just get some of nakels stuff. That's Kareem's nephew we're talking about. Mike made a bad business move and Nakel went nuclear bipolar over the rejection. I looked Mike up his family. There's a wiki. I hate the privilege debate but please feel free to debunk... Selling Pants for 500 dollars.. the art is ok I guess, if we could go back in time, I'm sure he'd probably just carry the stuff, all I saw was the gifted video. Probably the first time gifted ever displayed his influence. Whatever is information or disinformation is up to you, but yeah, right after all that shit everyone was hyping lotties, everyone, and since I seen the gifted video I don't even care about this lotties clown, don't mess with Nak. You're wearing lotties we gonna fuck you up.  That's why he went out of business even though everyone in power tried to hype his shit. He is not or will never be neckFace.

*It was one gifteds first videos and he ended up taking it down in consideration to Nakel. Not Lotties, But most people that saw the video and knew what really went down,  know what happened and Lotties skate shop ended up having to close shop. There were a bunch of arguments over who could carry what from what brand in proximity to other skate shops in the area.. a bunch of shit went down. There should be an epicly later'd about it cause that guy got epicly later'd. That's just what all my sources have told me. I just know that Nakel is Kareem's nephew and this guy is a grown ass man with a skate shop. Shit doesn't add up to me so I'm suspicious of everyone this dude hangs out with and the folks doing business with this guy, his art, all that shit. His art doesn't mean that much cause he comes from a ton of money is all I've ever heard.. Nakel = Kareem Campbell's nephew. There's really no debate.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mt3baig0XQ&t=2290s
Dude had cancer and was probably over seeing Nakel bitch and moan about how unfair and racist the industry is all while putting out minimal parts while having a sponsor list most nobodies would kill for.
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That really unfortunate it all went down like that. Never knew that he had cancer when all that was going down, if so, makes Nak look like a real piece of shit. Makes Kareem look bad. It reflects poorly on his family if he was actually fighting someone battling cancer.. that's really messed up. Nakel should probably apologize if he hasn't already.. it's not the worst thing that ever happened. Yonnie's herpes was way way worse. It's all just gossip. We need gossip to survive. If you don't want to get involved in gossip just stop wearing Nascar jackets and pull up your pants a little and everyone will stop paying attention. Overall I think it boosted sales for everyone and the silver lining is all those pants and shit are probably worth a lot more money now if he did make em battling cancer and doing all that shit. He probably got exhausted by doing too much stuff and had to close. I thought it was strange everyone was doing collabs.. gifted deleted the video and just didn't post any of the cancer stuff and didn't post follow up videos, certain subject material for certain he does not discuss in his channel I've noticed.. some crazy shit and he's mum on certain darker things like yonnie's herpes. Did he talk about the herpes?.. it's usually light stuff, nothing too serious.. there was footage of Nakel and his homies ripping up lotties skate stuff, their shirts off their back of kids wearing lotties stuff at the skatepark. There might be a thread when it all went down talking about it but Im pretty sure I never read anywhere that he'd had cancer while it was happening. Brutal.

glad you've changed your tune cause your original take was insane
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Post by: Ninj2 on March 12, 2024, 02:18:24 PM
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Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: sk4terX on March 12, 2024, 02:20:28 PM
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To the peeps rushing to defend GH

He associates with Ricky Glaser and Tim Pool

/fucking thread
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Am I crazy or was that entire video absolutely SHITTING on Tim Pool and his persona / politics? Are we living in two different universes? The dude has never even crossed paths with the guy and spends over an hour shutting down his takes.

I just found out about the GH Tim pool video and I haven't seen it yet-- but if he's homies with Ricky Glaser that's enough for me
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Post by: skate_or_dingus on March 12, 2024, 02:25:50 PM
 Guys come on we've been through this before, everything happened because Nak wasn't aloud to pet the Lottie dog.
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Post by: doyle on March 12, 2024, 02:28:47 PM
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Jesus I had never encountered Tim Pool until this new GH video

He’s maybe the dumbest motherfucker I’ve ever heard talk
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Someone post the link I’m not trying to become a patreon lol

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Tim pool vid is up on Patreon
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youtube link
https://youtu.be/aot4JG1EKkE?si=8r0bVS4aFXYVP6TJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aot4JG1EKkE
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Post by: SatanicPanic on March 12, 2024, 02:28:54 PM
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lol you nerds managed to get GH to respond. Well done hahaha

Haven’t heard Hasan Piker but I really don’t need a YouTuber explaining politics to me. Sounds lame.

GH obviously doesn’t like Tim Pool and who cares if he hangs with Ricky Glaser? Maybe Glaser will learn something from hanging with GHs friends.
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And it sounds like Nakel really lost an opportunity to learn sime shit from that lotties guy. I think it would a hundred times easier lurkin with kinda annoying but really fun Nakel. I don't like that I even know about people like Aaron kyro or Ricky glacer. I block any type of shit like that and downvote it if I see it. Those people should be exiled from skateboarding.
Kyro is a creepy dude but Glaser just seems like a harmless goofball. Not sure, I haven’t watched much of his content.
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Post by: reptar_bar on March 12, 2024, 02:32:15 PM
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To the peeps rushing to defend GH

He associates with Ricky Glaser and Tim Pool

/fucking thread
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Am I crazy or was that entire video absolutely SHITTING on Tim Pool and his persona / politics? Are we living in two different universes? The dude has never even crossed paths with the guy and spends over an hour shutting down his takes.
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I just found out about the GH Tim pool video and I haven't seen it yet-- but if he's homies with Ricky Glaser that's enough for me

So you just found out about the video, didn’t watch it, but somehow you are claiming that GH and Tim Pool are associates of one another?

You’re a fucking dumbass man, those kind of assumptions make this place so god damn toxic. Maybe you’re just a child though, honestly hard to tell on here.

Stop spewing shit you don’t know anything about and go outside.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: sk4terX on March 12, 2024, 02:33:58 PM
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He associates with Ricky Glaser and Tim Pool

/fucking thread
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How does he associate with Tim Pool? Can you clarify please.

So apparently he's not actually associated with him and just put out a video criticizing him, I just found out. But far as I can tell he is tight with Ricky Glaser for real so fuck all that noise
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: sk4terX on March 12, 2024, 02:35:37 PM
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Am I crazy or was that entire video absolutely SHITTING on Tim Pool and his persona / politics? Are we living in two different universes? The dude has never even crossed paths with the guy and spends over an hour shutting down his takes.
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I just found out about the GH Tim pool video and I haven't seen it yet-- but if he's homies with Ricky Glaser that's enough for me
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So you just found out about the video, didn’t watch it, but somehow you are claiming that GH and Tim Pool are associates of one another?

You’re a fucking dumbass man, those kind of assumptions make this place so god damn toxic. Maybe you’re just a child though, honestly hard to tell on here.

Stop spewing shit you don’t know anything about and go outside.

lol why don't you crawl on over to OC and blow him fucking clown ass
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Getoffmycurb on March 12, 2024, 02:35:43 PM
https://youtu.be/tVlXnbqik5I?si=gFoDEIyB7fJqwBQ3

🔥 🔥 🔥!!! 

https://youtu.be/gJcPelknwCc?si=ffwCWYhOmuMB18aC

💣 💣 💣!!!
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: doyle on March 12, 2024, 03:03:49 PM
https://youtu.be/tVlXnbqik5I?si=gFoDEIyB7fJqwBQ3

🔥 🔥 🔥!!! 

https://youtu.be/gJcPelknwCc?si=ffwCWYhOmuMB18aC

💣 💣 💣!!!

(https://i.imgur.com/XMPErbw.png)
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: beautifulcannolis on March 12, 2024, 03:13:08 PM
This hurt my brain to read through. A perfect reminder to not go on the internet for anything that doesn't directly improve my life or others lives. Y'all should too. Weather is getting nicer too.

Slap likes to throw lil jabs at reddit. But lets be real slap is the reddit of skateboarding, and this thread proved it
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: frontsideNECKTIE on March 12, 2024, 03:16:17 PM
This hurt my brain to read through. A perfect reminder to not go on the internet for anything that doesn't directly improve my life or others lives. Y'all should too. Weather is getting nicer too.

Slap likes to throw lil jabs at reddit. But lets be real slap is the reddit of skateboarding, and this thread proved it

what's the Slap equivalent to r/nsfw?
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Newphone on March 12, 2024, 03:18:27 PM
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🔥 🔥 🔥!!! 

https://youtu.be/gJcPelknwCc?si=ffwCWYhOmuMB18aC

💣 💣 💣!!!
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It was probably over differing opinions on cast iron.  GH of Teflon?
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: beautifulcannolis on March 12, 2024, 03:23:53 PM
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This hurt my brain to read through. A perfect reminder to not go on the internet for anything that doesn't directly improve my life or others lives. Y'all should too. Weather is getting nicer too.

Slap likes to throw lil jabs at reddit. But lets be real slap is the reddit of skateboarding, and this thread proved it
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what's the Slap equivalent to r/nsfw?

Wouldn't want to be caught reading this thread at work that's for sure
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Ninj2 on March 12, 2024, 03:39:46 PM
Hope wheels jackets
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Crust on March 12, 2024, 03:40:09 PM
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youtube link
https://youtu.be/aot4JG1EKkE?si=8r0bVS4aFXYVP6TJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aot4JG1EKkE
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This is absolutely a transphobic talking point...

Did he even do any research on this? This is the podium photo from that contest that Silverman is talking about, with the trans woman in first place and Silverman to her right. What physical disadvantage is GH talking about? Being stronger and taller than the winner?
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/05/20/16/58074163-10837837-image-m-3_1653062381565.jpg)

Also, Silverman has lost to literal prepubescent girls in a previous contest (probably more than one, but this is the first link I found https://theboardr.com/results/7281/Exposure-Womens-Vert-Open). Silverman is clearly just a sore loser turned grifter. Taking her grievance seriously is just playing into the anti-trans panic.

Looking at this photo alone and seeing that Silverman is taller does not really equate to her being stronger. There are way more metrics that go into strength than just height.

GH was likely referring to physical disadvantages biologically that literally divides men and women into different divisions in practically every sport worldwide:

On average, men tend to have a larger heart, greater lung capacity, stronger bone density, greater muscle mass, more red blood cells, and less body fat, larger hands, longer limbs, etc. all of which tend to give men performance advantages over women, in most sporting endeavours.

I do not think his take was transphobic. He spoke in nuanced manner, and said it was unfortunate while he pondered about there not being a 100% fair solution for women and trans women competing together. He even advocated for pronouns rights.

If trans women could enter women's sports division's openly without any question it bodes terribly in more physical, combative sports where there can be great health consequences to losing. For example, in MMA, Kickboxing and Judo.

However, if trans competitors aren't included at all at all, they are left in a very difficult spot, as everyone should be welcome to compete and enjoy it.

There must be some way to try accomodate both sides somewhat fairly. Neither women being left in unfair sporting positions, or trans not being allowed to enter is ideal. Hopefully some way can be figured out going forward that includes both while upholding fairness.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Fincher5153 on March 12, 2024, 03:48:55 PM
I think it's ridiculous to call him fascist or racist. But why is Gifted Hater dipping his toes into politics lol. He's gonna become the Destiny of the skate world - even more divisive with the annoying fan base to go with it. I like hearing his takes on skating, but I don't need to hear about whatever left or right winger he disagrees with. Thankfully it hasn't affected his main videos that much.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: herecomesaregular on March 12, 2024, 04:08:51 PM
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youtube link
https://youtu.be/aot4JG1EKkE?si=8r0bVS4aFXYVP6TJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aot4JG1EKkE
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20:47
This is absolutely a transphobic talking point...

Did he even do any research on this? This is the podium photo from that contest that Silverman is talking about, with the trans woman in first place and Silverman to her right. What physical disadvantage is GH talking about? Being stronger and taller than the winner?
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/05/20/16/58074163-10837837-image-m-3_1653062381565.jpg)

Also, Silverman has lost to literal prepubescent girls in a previous contest (probably more than one, but this is the first link I found https://theboardr.com/results/7281/Exposure-Womens-Vert-Open). Silverman is clearly just a sore loser turned grifter. Taking her grievance seriously is just playing into the anti-trans panic.
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Looking at this photo alone and seeing that Silverman is taller does not really equate to her being stronger. There are way more metrics that go into strength than just height.

GH was likely referring to physical disadvantages biologically that literally divides men and women into different divisions in practically every sport worldwide:

On average, men tend to have a larger heart, greater lung capacity, stronger bone density, greater muscle mass, more red blood cells, and less body fat, larger hands, longer limbs, etc. all of which tend to give men performance advantages over women, in most sporting endeavours.

I do not think his take was transphobic. He spoke in nuanced manner, and said it was unfortunate while he pondered about there not being a 100% fair solution for women and trans women competing together. He even advocated for pronouns rights.

If trans women could enter women's sports division's openly without any question it bodes terribly in more physical, combative sports where there can be great health consequences to losing. For example, in MMA, Kickboxing and Judo.

However, if trans competitors aren't included at all at all, they are left in a very difficult spot, as everyone should be welcome to compete and enjoy it.

There must be some way to try accomodate both sides somewhat fairly. Neither women being left in unfair sporting positions, or trans not being allowed to enter is ideal. Hopefully some way can be figured out going forward that includes both while upholding fairness.


Trans women, and especially trans girls or teenagers, are not men. Comparing them to women as if they are is both (yes) transphobic AND illogical.

Additionally, there were already two links posted to roundups of information on this concept posted to this thread. I’ll copy and paste them for you:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trans-girls-belong-on-girls-sports-teams/

https://www.aclu.org/news/lgbtq-rights/four-myths-about-trans-athletes-debunked

Feel free to read them and then stop hand wringing about problems that only exist in the heads of hateful bigots and gullible people they manipulate (that’s you rn).
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: SatanicPanic on March 12, 2024, 04:38:04 PM
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youtube link
https://youtu.be/aot4JG1EKkE?si=8r0bVS4aFXYVP6TJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aot4JG1EKkE
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20:47
This is absolutely a transphobic talking point...

Did he even do any research on this? This is the podium photo from that contest that Silverman is talking about, with the trans woman in first place and Silverman to her right. What physical disadvantage is GH talking about? Being stronger and taller than the winner?
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/05/20/16/58074163-10837837-image-m-3_1653062381565.jpg)

Also, Silverman has lost to literal prepubescent girls in a previous contest (probably more than one, but this is the first link I found https://theboardr.com/results/7281/Exposure-Womens-Vert-Open). Silverman is clearly just a sore loser turned grifter. Taking her grievance seriously is just playing into the anti-trans panic.
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Looking at this photo alone and seeing that Silverman is taller does not really equate to her being stronger. There are way more metrics that go into strength than just height.

GH was likely referring to physical disadvantages biologically that literally divides men and women into different divisions in practically every sport worldwide:

On average, men tend to have a larger heart, greater lung capacity, stronger bone density, greater muscle mass, more red blood cells, and less body fat, larger hands, longer limbs, etc. all of which tend to give men performance advantages over women, in most sporting endeavours.

I do not think his take was transphobic. He spoke in nuanced manner, and said it was unfortunate while he pondered about there not being a 100% fair solution for women and trans women competing together. He even advocated for pronouns rights.

If trans women could enter women's sports division's openly without any question it bodes terribly in more physical, combative sports where there can be great health consequences to losing. For example, in MMA, Kickboxing and Judo.

However, if trans competitors aren't included at all at all, they are left in a very difficult spot, as everyone should be welcome to compete and enjoy it.

There must be some way to try accomodate both sides somewhat fairly. Neither women being left in unfair sporting positions, or trans not being allowed to enter is ideal. Hopefully some way can be figured out going forward that includes both while upholding fairness.
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The fact that he can’t help having his rightish politics leak into his content is pretty showing of who this kid is. He’s basically the “facts & logic” Ben Shapiro of the skate industry
Dude he’s not right wing. You’re being ridiculous
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Urtripping on March 12, 2024, 05:47:09 PM
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youtube link
https://youtu.be/aot4JG1EKkE?si=8r0bVS4aFXYVP6TJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aot4JG1EKkE
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20:47
This is absolutely a transphobic talking point...

Did he even do any research on this? This is the podium photo from that contest that Silverman is talking about, with the trans woman in first place and Silverman to her right. What physical disadvantage is GH talking about? Being stronger and taller than the winner?
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/05/20/16/58074163-10837837-image-m-3_1653062381565.jpg)

Also, Silverman has lost to literal prepubescent girls in a previous contest (probably more than one, but this is the first link I found https://theboardr.com/results/7281/Exposure-Womens-Vert-Open). Silverman is clearly just a sore loser turned grifter. Taking her grievance seriously is just playing into the anti-trans panic.
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Looking at this photo alone and seeing that Silverman is taller does not really equate to her being stronger. There are way more metrics that go into strength than just height.

GH was likely referring to physical disadvantages biologically that literally divides men and women into different divisions in practically every sport worldwide:

On average, men tend to have a larger heart, greater lung capacity, stronger bone density, greater muscle mass, more red blood cells, and less body fat, larger hands, longer limbs, etc. all of which tend to give men performance advantages over women, in most sporting endeavours.

I do not think his take was transphobic. He spoke in nuanced manner, and said it was unfortunate while he pondered about there not being a 100% fair solution for women and trans women competing together. He even advocated for pronouns rights.

If trans women could enter women's sports division's openly without any question it bodes terribly in more physical, combative sports where there can be great health consequences to losing. For example, in MMA, Kickboxing and Judo.

However, if trans competitors aren't included at all at all, they are left in a very difficult spot, as everyone should be welcome to compete and enjoy it.

There must be some way to try accomodate both sides somewhat fairly. Neither women being left in unfair sporting positions, or trans not being allowed to enter is ideal. Hopefully some way can be figured out going forward that includes both while upholding fairness.
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Trans women, and especially trans girls or teenagers, are not men. Comparing them to women as if they are is both (yes) transphobic AND illogical.

Additionally, there were already two links posted to roundups of information on this concept posted to this thread. I’ll copy and paste them for you:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trans-girls-belong-on-girls-sports-teams/

https://www.aclu.org/news/lgbtq-rights/four-myths-about-trans-athletes-debunked

Feel free to read them and then stop hand wringing about problems that only exist in the heads of hateful bigots and gullible people they manipulate (that’s you rn).

 People are so convinced they're making a good point when they start talking about lung capacity and yadda yadda.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Banned from the room on March 12, 2024, 05:49:29 PM
I feel bad for Joa. He's really stepped in some shit.
I could not get 5 minutes into that video. I almost dropped a tear for him and the east Los pal who said they can't get into the oc to make friends with out issues.

Yo

That boonies shit is all lies.
Only people who are new to skatebloarding think this industry is woke.
The truth be told RJ was up against the traditional conservative skate industry mindset. Had he dressed like that but skated like Shane Cross he'd be looked at differently from day one.

I think those two was friends too.

Rj can skate normal like real fuckin good too. I fuckin studied this man. His mind is tight af. I wish I could express and explain myself in this manner.

Sliberman I know nothing about. What she did to that other kid who just trying to skate and live live really fuckin bothers me.

Tim what I know about him is he fuckin fits the classic industry MO. It wouldn't surprise me if he got boxes from sole tech. Probably es. As before 2012 us queers wasn't allowed around.

Hes Canadian too isn't he?

Fuckin street genius and his sexy ass partner with the gold teeth are hired muscle. No one's cancelled them they're just way to weird core for the industry. I assume they're over 30 and they can't sit still long enough to catch moss.
Otherwise I don't know anything about them besides a few tricks and that one interview I couldn't sit through.

I've only watched one boonies video and that's the Ricky G video interview. They spent the entire time bashing closed minded defensive industry of the past and talking about inclusivity.
Which they don't afford to others cuz boom here we are with a declaration of war against Wokeness. What an original marketing scheme.

They might've just wrote "I'm leaving YouTube I'm sorry it's time to say goodbye..."

It's all lies...

I'm gonna skate forever. I'm going open my heart to everyone who comes around to try skatebloarding.
Unless they're a cop or an abuser.
Then they can fuckin go hangout at the boonies with the inclusivity click but not if you're a freethinker at all.

I'm hella bummed about that oc set tripping story the east Los pal mentioned. If I had the ability I would walk with you and break the rules of where we can go. I'd never run away on you

Fuckin hell. Peace is never gonna come if we don't do something. Let down the guard to people who don't work a job trying to blow you out the water.

That boonies looks like to me. Just another knife coming into to bludgeoned me back to the closets where we belong.

Which is no different than the last 40 fuckin years I been rolling
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Democratic Republic Of Mongo on March 12, 2024, 06:10:10 PM
Haven't popped on Slap since this weekend, and we're 12 pages in. Something something salvia, something something rice cooker

Is GH a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding? Kinda looking for a yes or no answer so I don't have to open this thread again

No.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: SatanicPanic on March 12, 2024, 06:59:07 PM
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youtube link
https://youtu.be/aot4JG1EKkE?si=8r0bVS4aFXYVP6TJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aot4JG1EKkE
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20:47
This is absolutely a transphobic talking point...

Did he even do any research on this? This is the podium photo from that contest that Silverman is talking about, with the trans woman in first place and Silverman to her right. What physical disadvantage is GH talking about? Being stronger and taller than the winner?
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/05/20/16/58074163-10837837-image-m-3_1653062381565.jpg)

Also, Silverman has lost to literal prepubescent girls in a previous contest (probably more than one, but this is the first link I found https://theboardr.com/results/7281/Exposure-Womens-Vert-Open). Silverman is clearly just a sore loser turned grifter. Taking her grievance seriously is just playing into the anti-trans panic.
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Looking at this photo alone and seeing that Silverman is taller does not really equate to her being stronger. There are way more metrics that go into strength than just height.

GH was likely referring to physical disadvantages biologically that literally divides men and women into different divisions in practically every sport worldwide:

On average, men tend to have a larger heart, greater lung capacity, stronger bone density, greater muscle mass, more red blood cells, and less body fat, larger hands, longer limbs, etc. all of which tend to give men performance advantages over women, in most sporting endeavours.

I do not think his take was transphobic. He spoke in nuanced manner, and said it was unfortunate while he pondered about there not being a 100% fair solution for women and trans women competing together. He even advocated for pronouns rights.

If trans women could enter women's sports division's openly without any question it bodes terribly in more physical, combative sports where there can be great health consequences to losing. For example, in MMA, Kickboxing and Judo.

However, if trans competitors aren't included at all at all, they are left in a very difficult spot, as everyone should be welcome to compete and enjoy it.

There must be some way to try accomodate both sides somewhat fairly. Neither women being left in unfair sporting positions, or trans not being allowed to enter is ideal. Hopefully some way can be figured out going forward that includes both while upholding fairness.
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The fact that he can’t help having his rightish politics leak into his content is pretty showing of who this kid is. He’s basically the “facts & logic” Ben Shapiro of the skate industry
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Dude he’s not right wing. You’re being ridiculous
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“Ish”
Yeah you’re still being ridiculous. Having a slightly heterodox opinion on one thing (that wouldn’t be popular on the right) isn’t evidence of “rightish politics “.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Banned from the room on March 12, 2024, 07:04:10 PM
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Haven't popped on Slap since this weekend, and we're 12 pages in. Something something salvia, something something rice cooker

Is GH a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding? Kinda looking for a yes or no answer so I don't have to open this thread again
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No.
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No, yes he is.

We need proof.
Someone should bug his car. Then we can see if his mom is at least cool.
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Post by: SatanicPanic on March 12, 2024, 07:06:05 PM
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youtube link
https://youtu.be/aot4JG1EKkE?si=8r0bVS4aFXYVP6TJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aot4JG1EKkE
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20:47
This is absolutely a transphobic talking point...

Did he even do any research on this? This is the podium photo from that contest that Silverman is talking about, with the trans woman in first place and Silverman to her right. What physical disadvantage is GH talking about? Being stronger and taller than the winner?
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/05/20/16/58074163-10837837-image-m-3_1653062381565.jpg)

Also, Silverman has lost to literal prepubescent girls in a previous contest (probably more than one, but this is the first link I found https://theboardr.com/results/7281/Exposure-Womens-Vert-Open). Silverman is clearly just a sore loser turned grifter. Taking her grievance seriously is just playing into the anti-trans panic.
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Looking at this photo alone and seeing that Silverman is taller does not really equate to her being stronger. There are way more metrics that go into strength than just height.

GH was likely referring to physical disadvantages biologically that literally divides men and women into different divisions in practically every sport worldwide:

On average, men tend to have a larger heart, greater lung capacity, stronger bone density, greater muscle mass, more red blood cells, and less body fat, larger hands, longer limbs, etc. all of which tend to give men performance advantages over women, in most sporting endeavours.

I do not think his take was transphobic. He spoke in nuanced manner, and said it was unfortunate while he pondered about there not being a 100% fair solution for women and trans women competing together. He even advocated for pronouns rights.

If trans women could enter women's sports division's openly without any question it bodes terribly in more physical, combative sports where there can be great health consequences to losing. For example, in MMA, Kickboxing and Judo.

However, if trans competitors aren't included at all at all, they are left in a very difficult spot, as everyone should be welcome to compete and enjoy it.

There must be some way to try accomodate both sides somewhat fairly. Neither women being left in unfair sporting positions, or trans not being allowed to enter is ideal. Hopefully some way can be figured out going forward that includes both while upholding fairness.
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The fact that he can’t help having his rightish politics leak into his content is pretty showing of who this kid is. He’s basically the “facts & logic” Ben Shapiro of the skate industry
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Dude he’s not right wing. You’re being ridiculous
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“Ish”
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Yeah you’re still being ridiculous. Having a slightly heterodox opinion on one thing (that wouldn’t be popular on the right) isn’t evidence of “rightish politics “.
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Between that, loving Sam Hyde, edgelording, and being a lil to liberal with the black criticism idk I’d say it’s fair, but I’m just a brother with an opinion 🤷‍♂️
We’ll have to agree to disagree I guess 🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: frontsideNECKTIE on March 12, 2024, 07:14:03 PM
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Haven't popped on Slap since this weekend, and we're 12 pages in. Something something salvia, something something rice cooker

Is GH a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding? Kinda looking for a yes or no answer so I don't have to open this thread again
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No.
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Haven't popped on Slap since this weekend, and we're 12 pages in. Something something salvia, something something rice cooker

Is GH a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding? Kinda looking for a yes or no answer so I don't have to open this thread again
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No.
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No, yes he is.

perfect, see ya on the next one
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: jakeumms on March 12, 2024, 07:50:49 PM
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This hurt my brain to read through. A perfect reminder to not go on the internet for anything that doesn't directly improve my life or others lives. Y'all should too. Weather is getting nicer too.

Slap likes to throw lil jabs at reddit. But lets be real slap is the reddit of skateboarding, and this thread proved it
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what's the Slap equivalent to r/nsfw?
The Set-Up Thread

@Uncle Flea Tim Pool is a skater who fell to the dark side. He's from the Chicago burbs and got involved in vlogging during the Occupy Wall Street movement. There's a bunch of drama and backstory there but he emerged from that phase of his life with a rebrand as the Occupy guy who turned conservative. Basically, he's been chasing that conservative dollar and has been radicalized further right as the World's political culture leans towards Fascism. One version of his show was funded by the NXIVM cult before that whole racket fell apart. Historically, he's been bank rolled by some dark money creep although at this point his show is pretty popular and he is stacking cash. Maybe even looking to diversify with The Boonies. Here are couple of excellent, meme heavy breakdowns of a couple of phases of his career as right wing shit stirrer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-auoxhyzIIo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_snYw3QbL4
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: lurkluke on March 12, 2024, 08:11:01 PM
Let’s just face the fact the most the member of slap are bunch of pussies. Give me negative rep, whatever, but you are all so fucking weak it’s a joke. Want to talk serious

lol

lmao
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: herecomesaregular on March 12, 2024, 08:20:07 PM
Let’s just face the fact the most the member of slap are bunch of pussies. Give me negative rep, whatever, but you are all so fucking weak it’s a joke. Want to talk serious

Imagine coming in so late in the game and knocking it out of the park with the literal worst take in the whole thread lol. Massive L.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: GAY on March 12, 2024, 08:42:46 PM
This thread makes my life a lot better!
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: thailand on March 12, 2024, 08:56:54 PM
This place is doubling as a insane asylum
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: radcunt on March 12, 2024, 09:10:00 PM
The slap messageboard is worse than anything on gifted hater's channel. You're all being indoctrinated by the mods. They control the narrative. Know that any opinion they disagree is going to banned. Anyone that posts something they disagree with gets banned. Banning people is what the new generation is about. Smear campaigns and witch hunts. The next generation of skateboarding is starting to look a like the real fascists. Fuck Nascar!
I wish I could post about Sam Hydes cool dick
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Banned from the room on March 12, 2024, 09:31:48 PM
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This hurt my brain to read through. A perfect reminder to not go on the internet for anything that doesn't directly improve my life or others lives. Y'all should too. Weather is getting nicer too.

Slap likes to throw lil jabs at reddit. But lets be real slap is the reddit of skateboarding, and this thread proved it
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what's the Slap equivalent to r/nsfw?
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The Set-Up Thread

@Uncle Flea Tim Pool is a skater who fell to the dark side. He's from the Chicago burbs and got involved in vlogging during the Occupy Wall Street movement. There's a bunch of drama and backstory there but he emerged from that phase of his life with a rebrand as the Occupy guy who turned conservative. Basically, he's been chasing that conservative dollar and has been radicalized further right as the World's political culture leans towards Fascism. One version of his show was funded by the NXIVM cult before that whole racket fell apart. Historically, he's been bank rolled by some dark money creep although at this point his show is pretty popular and he is stacking cash. Maybe even looking to diversify with The Boonies. Here are couple of excellent, meme heavy breakdowns of a couple of phases of his career as right wing shit stirrer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-auoxhyzIIo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_snYw3QbL4


Thanks yo.

Occupy was crazy. I seen it get flooded with drugs. I knew the main dealer. He was going with my ex. She passed away right after. Last time I saw her. Dude was an informant. State sponsored
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Rohn_mob_joore on March 12, 2024, 11:04:07 PM
This is the lamest thing ever, politics is becoming so fucking annoying and everything is way too big of a deal. I seriously wanna crawl under a rock for this election season or throw away anything I can access internet with and just get a flip phone
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Post by: WavyDavy on March 12, 2024, 11:38:31 PM
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This hurt my brain to read through. A perfect reminder to not go on the internet for anything that doesn't directly improve my life or others lives. Y'all should too. Weather is getting nicer too.

Slap likes to throw lil jabs at reddit. But lets be real slap is the reddit of skateboarding, and this thread proved it
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what's the Slap equivalent to r/nsfw?
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The Set-Up Thread

@Uncle Flea Tim Pool is a skater who fell to the dark side. He's from the Chicago burbs and got involved in vlogging during the Occupy Wall Street movement. There's a bunch of drama and backstory there but he emerged from that phase of his life with a rebrand as the Occupy guy who turned conservative. Basically, he's been chasing that conservative dollar and has been radicalized further right as the World's political culture leans towards Fascism. One version of his show was funded by the NXIVM cult before that whole racket fell apart. Historically, he's been bank rolled by some dark money creep although at this point his show is pretty popular and he is stacking cash. Maybe even looking to diversify with The Boonies. Here are couple of excellent, meme heavy breakdowns of a couple of phases of his career as right wing shit stirrer:

This looks like a rabbit hole I shouldn't really get into.


Someone posted here 2 articles about trans sports so I'll just add these 2 papers which

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7846503/

https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/55/15/865

 
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Dante Bichette on March 12, 2024, 11:51:18 PM
Let’s just face the fact the most the member of slap are bunch of pussies. Give me negative rep, whatever, but you are all so fucking weak it’s a joke. Want to talk serious
You got us that’s it wrap it up guys.

https://youtu.be/-v369Z1ZkyQ

(never gonna stop using this meme)






Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Shtonk on March 13, 2024, 12:07:12 AM
When did the skatetwitter crowd come on here to spread their deluded identity politics gibberish? You're not left wing, Joa's not right wing. Reading some of the shit on here Im starting to understand why he might feel the need to distance himself from "the left" and that is the true tragedy, that he can't/won't separate a properly left perspective from the sanctimonious crap OP and a couple others are spreading on here. His fault for not knowing the first thing about politics, sure, but also your fault for poisoning the well with your contrived dumbass conspiracy theories while there's true evil fuckwits like Tim Pool out there having a career.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Bryanferry on March 13, 2024, 03:47:42 AM
You guys are fucking unbelievable, because he’s sat next to Ricky glazer makes him racist? A classic burn the witch and everyone jumps on the bandwagon. You should be ashamed you dumb fucks. If you watch anyone of his vids it’s clearly the opposite.
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Post by: SaySo on March 13, 2024, 04:06:50 AM
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i have been really lazy about cooking at home lately and want to change that, gotten to the point where ill walk 30 mins for take out rather then saving money and just cooking for 15 minutes at home.

anybody have some good home cooking tips? i am an incredibly lazy cook, spending an hour in the kitchen fills me with dread. i need something more exciting then chicken and rice to add to my lazy meal prep. any good recipes?

also is a cast iron actually worth it?

rip akira toriyama
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Dude white rice is so easy. 1 cup of rice to 3 cups of water. Put it in a pot bring it to a boil, turn the heat to low and put the lid on. Dont touch it for 20 minutes. Now you have rice as a side the next couple nights. Get some ground beef and throw it in a pan with a little bit of seasoning and cook till brown. Get some tortillas, shredded cheese and salsa and now you have probably 3 meals worth of tacos with rice as well.

Just keep shit simple, cooking is as complicated or as easy as you want it to be. It usually takes me 20 minutes or less to cook anything i make.
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Your water to rice ratio is way out dude. 1:2.

You are right though. Rice is easy. You just gotta get all the water that's not in the rice, into the rice. Then it's done. Boil, take down low, and leave.

Also with cooking: planning is key. Spend 30 minutes each week getting a shopping list, and a plan for your food. That takes 50% of the stress and panic away when you're in the kitchen. I also try to have one or two highlight dishes each week. I come up with something I'm real excited to eat... the  work out how to make it real good. Doesn't have to be difficult. Just something you really would like to eat.

Also like the planning, prep work is key. Work out what you can make a day or two ahead and do it when you have a moment. Take the pressure off when you need to cook, and try do as much as you can when you have time.
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Good call on the ratio. Another thing to keep in mind is the cook time of different types of rice. I tend to prefer basmati due to the shorter cook time when compared to jasmine.
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I use brown rice mostly for the same reason. The window between done and dry is about 10 mins. So just chuck it on, get everything else done, then it'll probably be ready. I usually try stop it before it's almost done (I cook on vibes and bites rather than time), and leave the lid on while I finish everything else.

It's also a lot better for you.

The ratio I've always used is the pinky fingernail method: make sure the water goes to the top of your pinky fingernail when the tip of your pinky finger is touching the rice.

If one has the time, it's always good to presoak rice since who knows how new/old the rice is even when we buy it the same day.

Rice cookers can be bomb, but I think some of the best rice I've ever had was some my ex made in her Le Creuset dutch oven. But Le Creuset/Staub are like GH level baller status, although she copped hers at a secondhand spot.

Also, rice cookers can be used for a lot of different one-pot meals, and not just for rice. They're used in Asia for all sorts of things; soup, boiling eggs, steaming veggies, steaming fish, etc.

Oh, a relatively easy one-pot recipe using a rice cooker is making a mixed rice using dried shiitake mushrooms, garlic, and Chinese sausage (or any other salty, relatively low moisture ham/sausage).

1.) Wash and soak the rice you're using. Drain the rice and put it into the rice pot.
2.) Reconstitute the shiitake mushrooms (save the water you soak them in)
3.) Dice the garlic, chop/slice the mushrooms.
4.) Add enough water, and the reserved mushroom water to reach the finger ratio (or the 1:2 ratio), and then add all the chopped ingredients on top.
5.) Cover the pot, and start the cooking cycle.
6.) When the rice cooker cycle stops, remove the sausage, slice it up, and add it back into the rice cooker.
7.) Mix it all together and top with chopped green onions/scallions, sesame seeds, or whatever.

The flavor from the garlic, mushrooms, and sausage is usually enough, but if you have more time and want deeper flavor, you can make a sauce using equal parts regular soy sauce, dark soy sauce, fish sauce, a pinch (or two) of sugar, and a pinch of white pepper. Mix all those ingredients together and add it in at step 6, but wait for a few minutes before you remove and slice the sausage.

***If you want more vegetables/more of a nutrional balance, chop up some washed greens (bok choy, collard greens, spinach, etc.) and once the rice cooker stops, quickly open the lid and toss the vegetables over the rice, close the lid, and let it steam for 10-15 minutes.***

(If it's in season, fresh corn rice is awesome too. Or just adding in a can of black beans and can of corn into the rice before you cook it - easy burrito/wrap filling).
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: JANUS on March 13, 2024, 04:27:28 AM
Recently at my job a tranny man groped a girl in the woman’s restroom. Creeps are pretending they are woman so they can take advantage of woman and 99% of you fuckers don’t even see it. Go support shitty ass “there” skateboards which is a stupid fucking name. Keep being lazy fat fucks losing your pop and do your stupid slappy grinds you poser bitches. High five each other with your fat little sausage fingers and I’ll watch your claim to fame on Christmas in those shitty Tired Skateboard videos. Keep supporting rapists good job slap

I was not aware the offices of The Daily Stormer had public washrooms.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: InkkeACAB on March 13, 2024, 05:06:53 AM
Recently at my job a tranny man groped a girl in the woman’s restroom. Creeps are pretending they are woman so they can take advantage of woman and 99% of you fuckers don’t even see it. Go support shitty ass “there” skateboards which is a stupid fucking name. Keep being lazy fat fucks losing your pop and do your stupid slappy grinds you poser bitches. High five each other with your fat little sausage fingers and I’ll watch your claim to fame on Christmas in those shitty Tired Skateboard videos. Keep supporting rapists good job slap

* asylum escapee alert *
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: backside_frontside on March 13, 2024, 05:30:26 AM
I just have to say that I had no fucking clue who Tim Pool was before this thread and I was way better off not knowing about this asshole. Sometimes ignorance really is bliss.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: grimcity on March 13, 2024, 05:33:31 AM
Recently at my job a tranny man groped a girl in the woman’s restroom. Creeps are pretending they are woman so they can take advantage of woman and 99% of you fuckers don’t even see it. Go support shitty ass “there” skateboards which is a stupid fucking name. Keep being lazy fat fucks losing your pop and do your stupid slappy grinds you poser bitches. High five each other with your fat little sausage fingers and I’ll watch your claim to fame on Christmas in those shitty Tired Skateboard videos. Keep supporting rapists good job slap

I haven't heard anything this fucking stupid since Ari tried selling us magical holograms. 
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Newphone on March 13, 2024, 05:38:43 AM
Recently at my job a tranny man groped a girl in the woman’s restroom. Creeps are pretending they are woman so they can take advantage of woman and 99% of you fuckers don’t even see it. Go support shitty ass “there” skateboards which is a stupid fucking name. Keep being lazy fat fucks losing your pop and do your stupid slappy grinds you poser bitches. High five each other with your fat little sausage fingers and I’ll watch your claim to fame on Christmas in those shitty Tired Skateboard videos. Keep supporting rapists good job slap

Just sitting alone on Christmas, hate watching a Tired video, Scrooging out.



Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Pasta Monster on March 13, 2024, 05:48:45 AM
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Recently at my job a tranny man groped a girl in the woman’s restroom. Creeps are pretending they are woman so they can take advantage of woman and 99% of you fuckers don’t even see it. Go support shitty ass “there” skateboards which is a stupid fucking name. Keep being lazy fat fucks losing your pop and do your stupid slappy grinds you poser bitches. High five each other with your fat little sausage fingers and I’ll watch your claim to fame on Christmas in those shitty Tired Skateboard videos. Keep supporting rapists good job slap
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I haven't heard anything this fucking stupid since Ari tried selling us magical holograms.
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Okay ask the poor woman that got violated by the creep dressing like a Tran.
Where do you work—a gym?

No one here supports rapists. Everyone accused of rape has been rightfully scrutinized: Al Davis, Yonnie, Johann, etc.

Why aren’t you bitching about men considering no trans person in the skate industry has assaulted women?

You just want to project hate and you’ll never skate 1/10 as good as Arin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo-z-NXOn7o

I’m 99.9% sure your story is bullshit and you lifted that from Stormfront or some other conservative message board to fit your anti-trans agenda.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: creep3000 on March 13, 2024, 05:53:07 AM
Gifted Heitor.
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Post by: GrayCellGreen on March 13, 2024, 05:53:22 AM
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Recently at my job a tranny man groped a girl in the woman’s restroom. Creeps are pretending they are woman so they can take advantage of woman and 99% of you fuckers don’t even see it. Go support shitty ass “there” skateboards which is a stupid fucking name. Keep being lazy fat fucks losing your pop and do your stupid slappy grinds you poser bitches. High five each other with your fat little sausage fingers and I’ll watch your claim to fame on Christmas in those shitty Tired Skateboard videos. Keep supporting rapists good job slap
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I haven't heard anything this fucking stupid since Ari tried selling us magical holograms.
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Okay ask the poor woman that got violated by the creep dressing like a Tran.

It sounds like you already hated trans women and are using this “story” to justify your bigotry. Go fuck yourself
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Allen. on March 13, 2024, 06:12:11 AM
I guarantee you won’t buddy, I work real hard
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Post by: skate_or_dingus on March 13, 2024, 07:08:53 AM
 That Glenn Danzig kid rips too.
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Post by: Yonnycage on March 13, 2024, 07:14:52 AM
This place is doubling as a insane asylum
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Post by: tortfeasor on March 13, 2024, 09:46:25 AM
guess we know which show really has skaters talking.

alrite see you all next year.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Banned from the room on March 13, 2024, 10:02:58 AM
I have faith. I have hope. I don't think Joa is into turd burglary. Everyone knows that racist in their free time hang around public restrooms as fecal-feely-acks. They can't help it as their lives and brains are totally SHIT focused.

I believe that it's beautiful that slap gives a shit.
We're not putting up with that ole racist bullshit.  We're holding it down other skaters. All skaters.

Not telling young Mr Neil how to live but he probably should just focus this beef.
He has the power to do so. Painting someone a racist without solid proof is not the coolest thing at all.
Really Its going to just cause all the lifer YouTubers to make Robert vs Joa content. Some of which will most likely be racism fueled.

We should kill all that like a surgeon cutting out the cancer.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: feeble minded on March 13, 2024, 10:19:18 AM
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Sounds like some of you guys need a rice cooker. I’m telling you, once you have a good one you’ll never wanna go without.

Bought mine from my Japanese friend before she went back to Japan. Possibly one of the best purchases I’ve ever made.
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I've been eyeballing rice cookers for a few years now but I've been hesitant to pull the trigger on one. What brand are you currently using?

At the risk of causing yet more controversy, I highly recommend Cuckoo brand rice cookers.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Ghost Face on March 13, 2024, 10:52:11 AM
I was hesitant to get an airfryer but it def has it's purposes and comes in handy.

I too would like to hear more about the rice cooker.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: GrayCellGreen on March 13, 2024, 10:58:46 AM
Careful guys, talking about food and cooking appliances is now considered yuppie shit.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Banned from the room on March 13, 2024, 11:04:44 AM
One more additive

It's dangerous painting one of the biggest voices in bloarding racist. For I've seen that bigots find each other in the places and become stronger.
It matters not the place they will wander until they can crew.
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Post by: skate_or_dingus on March 13, 2024, 11:13:29 AM
Careful guys, talking about food and cooking appliances is now considered yuppie shit.

 I shoulda said "old fogey cornball shit". This ain't the Martha Stewart network.
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Post by: Banned from the room on March 13, 2024, 11:25:07 AM
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Careful guys, talking about food and cooking appliances is now considered yuppie shit.
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 I shoulda said "old fogey cornball shit". This ain't the Martha Stewart network.

Cooking is definitely out in 24. 24 is about saved time by shoplifting Shrimp Rings or ready made salads.

Shoplifting is the new pissing match for city kings.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on March 13, 2024, 11:52:14 AM
Arin is only popular because everyone wants the bussy

Top confession so far in 2024.

On the topic of air fryers, a housemate of mine uses an air fryer often to cook chicken wings, and they always fucking stink. It pisses me off because for whatever reason the smell drifts into my bedroom.

Similarly, I slow cooked a dank ass leg of lamb about a month ago, but the smell clam baked my bedroom. I couldn’t sleep for like 2 days because all I could smell was leg of lamb.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Can he read on March 13, 2024, 11:58:09 AM
That dumb data guy should investigate whether or not Joa has disproportionally targeted more POC in his videos over the course of his career. That could at least settle that debate.
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Post by: yghartsyrt on March 13, 2024, 12:04:34 PM
That dumb data guy should investigate whether or not Joa has disproportionally targeted more POC in his videos over the course of his career. That could at least settle that debate.

I’d say, the one thing we need is LESS YouTube „commentary“ - even more so if it includes looks like dumb data.
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Post by: Ninj2 on March 13, 2024, 12:24:10 PM
So many bots up in here these days. Jerry got a sci fi fantasy bot farms for this PR night mare. I still don’t understand what’s wrong wit hot wheels tho. They cool and here is why. They only cost a couple bucks. Cars is cool. I mean horses and your feet is actually a more free way to see the world but we need to pave it to skate it. Fuck your dogs. Why you got dogs in New York City anyways? Is you hate dogs? They ain’t meant to be stacked up like that and neither is you but the dog ain’t got no say in the matters. They probably like all the piss they get to smell tho. Dogs is nasty like that.
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Post by: somedudefromnj on March 13, 2024, 12:32:05 PM
Arin is only popular because everyone wants the bussy

not gonna lie I didnt care about Arin until seeing how easy she manual frontside flips

still a short list of people who do them

can we get a list going?

Arin Lester
Jeron Wilson
Javier Sarmiento

and I'll probably need some help after that
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Post by: Can he read on March 13, 2024, 12:33:29 PM
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That dumb data guy should investigate whether or not Joa has disproportionally targeted more POC in his videos over the course of his career. That could at least settle that debate.
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I’d say, the one thing we need is LESS YouTube „commentary“ - even more so if it includes looks like dumb data.

So your plan is to go to the pub for a pint and wait for all this to blow over? Fair.
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Post by: mj23 on March 13, 2024, 12:34:30 PM

Cooking is definitely out in 24. 24 is about saved time by shoplifting Shrimp Rings
mods, you can lock the thread now. there's nothing else to add
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Post by: Coolguy69 on March 13, 2024, 12:44:13 PM
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i have been really lazy about cooking at home lately and want to change that, gotten to the point where ill walk 30 mins for take out rather then saving money and just cooking for 15 minutes at home.

anybody have some good home cooking tips? i am an incredibly lazy cook, spending an hour in the kitchen fills me with dread. i need something more exciting then chicken and rice to add to my lazy meal prep. any good recipes?

also is a cast iron actually worth it?

rip akira toriyama
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Dude white rice is so easy. 1 cup of rice to 3 cups of water. Put it in a pot bring it to a boil, turn the heat to low and put the lid on. Dont touch it for 20 minutes. Now you have rice as a side the next couple nights. Get some ground beef and throw it in a pan with a little bit of seasoning and cook till brown. Get some tortillas, shredded cheese and salsa and now you have probably 3 meals worth of tacos with rice as well.

Just keep shit simple, cooking is as complicated or as easy as you want it to be. It usually takes me 20 minutes or less to cook anything i make.
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Your water to rice ratio is way out dude. 1:2.

You are right though. Rice is easy. You just gotta get all the water that's not in the rice, into the rice. Then it's done. Boil, take down low, and leave.

Also with cooking: planning is key. Spend 30 minutes each week getting a shopping list, and a plan for your food. That takes 50% of the stress and panic away when you're in the kitchen. I also try to have one or two highlight dishes each week. I come up with something I'm real excited to eat... the  work out how to make it real good. Doesn't have to be difficult. Just something you really would like to eat.

Also like the planning, prep work is key. Work out what you can make a day or two ahead and do it when you have a moment. Take the pressure off when you need to cook, and try do as much as you can when you have time.
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Good call on the ratio. Another thing to keep in mind is the cook time of different types of rice. I tend to prefer basmati due to the shorter cook time when compared to jasmine.
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I use brown rice mostly for the same reason. The window between done and dry is about 10 mins. So just chuck it on, get everything else done, then it'll probably be ready. I usually try stop it before it's almost done (I cook on vibes and bites rather than time), and leave the lid on while I finish everything else.

It's also a lot better for you.
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The ratio I've always used is the pinky fingernail method: make sure the water goes to the top of your pinky fingernail when the tip of your pinky finger is touching the rice.

If one has the time, it's always good to presoak rice since who knows how new/old the rice is even when we buy it the same day.

Rice cookers can be bomb, but I think some of the best rice I've ever had was some my ex made in her Le Creuset dutch oven. But Le Creuset/Staub are like GH level baller status, although she copped hers at a secondhand spot.

Also, rice cookers can be used for a lot of different one-pot meals, and not just for rice. They're used in Asia for all sorts of things; soup, boiling eggs, steaming veggies, steaming fish, etc.

Oh, a relatively easy one-pot recipe using a rice cooker is making a mixed rice using dried shiitake mushrooms, garlic, and Chinese sausage (or any other salty, relatively low moisture ham/sausage).

1.) Wash and soak the rice you're using. Drain the rice and put it into the rice pot.
2.) Reconstitute the shiitake mushrooms (save the water you soak them in)
3.) Dice the garlic, chop/slice the mushrooms.
4.) Add enough water, and the reserved mushroom water to reach the finger ratio (or the 1:2 ratio), and then add all the chopped ingredients on top.
5.) Cover the pot, and start the cooking cycle.
6.) When the rice cooker cycle stops, remove the sausage, slice it up, and add it back into the rice cooker.
7.) Mix it all together and top with chopped green onions/scallions, sesame seeds, or whatever.

The flavor from the garlic, mushrooms, and sausage is usually enough, but if you have more time and want deeper flavor, you can make a sauce using equal parts regular soy sauce, dark soy sauce, fish sauce, a pinch (or two) of sugar, and a pinch of white pepper. Mix all those ingredients together and add it in at step 6, but wait for a few minutes before you remove and slice the sausage.

***If you want more vegetables/more of a nutrional balance, chop up some washed greens (bok choy, collard greens, spinach, etc.) and once the rice cooker stops, quickly open the lid and toss the vegetables over the rice, close the lid, and let it steam for 10-15 minutes.***

(If it's in season, fresh corn rice is awesome too. Or just adding in a can of black beans and can of corn into the rice before you cook it - easy burrito/wrap filling).

Really great sounding recipe! I consider buying a rice cooker probably twice a year and then just kind of forget about it, might be time to finally invest. I had a friend from kuwait in college and he made chicken biryani for all of the homies one night using a rice cooker. It was his mom's recipe and was easily one of the best things I've ever eaten!
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: yghartsyrt on March 13, 2024, 12:53:37 PM
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That dumb data guy should investigate whether or not Joa has disproportionally targeted more POC in his videos over the course of his career. That could at least settle that debate.
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I’d say, the one thing we need is LESS YouTube „commentary“ - even more so if it includes looks like dumb data.
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So your plan is to go to the pub for a pint and wait for all this to blow over? Fair.

There‘s nothing to blow over besides people blowing things out of proportion. Maybe you can enlighten me how Social Media will solve the problem it helped to create.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Can he read on March 13, 2024, 01:22:28 PM
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That dumb data guy should investigate whether or not Joa has disproportionally targeted more POC in his videos over the course of his career. That could at least settle that debate.
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I’d say, the one thing we need is LESS YouTube „commentary“ - even more so if it includes looks like dumb data.
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So your plan is to go to the pub for a pint and wait for all this to blow over? Fair.
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There‘s nothing to blow over besides people blowing things out of proportion. Maybe you can enlighten me how Social Media will solve the problem it helped to create.

I’m not trying to enlighten you, if you don’t care you don’t care and that’s great, but a video analyzing the data and determining if it’s been blown out of proportion or not would be pretty helpful and there’s only one guy I know of with the time and ability to do that. That’s all I was saying.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: yghartsyrt on March 13, 2024, 01:29:16 PM
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That dumb data guy should investigate whether or not Joa has disproportionally targeted more POC in his videos over the course of his career. That could at least settle that debate.
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I’d say, the one thing we need is LESS YouTube „commentary“ - even more so if it includes looks like dumb data.
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So your plan is to go to the pub for a pint and wait for all this to blow over? Fair.
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There‘s nothing to blow over besides people blowing things out of proportion. Maybe you can enlighten me how Social Media will solve the problem it helped to create.
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I’m not trying to enlighten you, if you don’t care you don’t care and that’s great, but a video analyzing the data and determining if it’s been blown out of proportion or not would be pretty helpful and there’s only one guy I know of with the time and ability to do that. That’s all I was saying.

What happened to just use your mind. Don’t need some random YouTuber to tell me on which team i need to be
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: zerosugarfruitpunch on March 13, 2024, 02:46:25 PM
This is honestly a contender for worst thread ever posted
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: SkatingOnNeptune on March 13, 2024, 03:02:57 PM
So many bots up in here these days. Jerry got a sci fi fantasy bot farms for this PR night mare. I still don’t understand what’s wrong wit hot wheels tho. They cool and here is why. They only cost a couple bucks. Cars is cool. I mean horses and your feet is actually a more free way to see the world but we need to pave it to skate it. Fuck your dogs. Why you got dogs in New York City anyways? Is you hate dogs? They ain’t meant to be stacked up like that and neither is you but the dog ain’t got no say in the matters. They probably like all the piss they get to smell tho. Dogs is nasty like that.

This made me laugh a lot,  thank you. Dogs really is nasty like that.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: sutures1995 on March 13, 2024, 04:50:04 PM
i live right there

Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: grandslam on March 13, 2024, 05:09:42 PM
Dumb data would have to analyze every live twitch stream and private video to make an objective video.
Not like he should because Jesus Christ, the kid is not a fascist..

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That dumb data guy should investigate whether or not Joa has disproportionally targeted more POC in his videos over the course of his career. That could at least settle that debate.
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I’d say, the one thing we need is LESS YouTube „commentary“ - even more so if it includes looks like dumb data.
[close]

So your plan is to go to the pub for a pint and wait for all this to blow over? Fair.
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There‘s nothing to blow over besides people blowing things out of proportion. Maybe you can enlighten me how Social Media will solve the problem it helped to create.
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I’m not trying to enlighten you, if you don’t care you don’t care and that’s great, but a video analyzing the data and determining if it’s been blown out of proportion or not would be pretty helpful and there’s only one guy I know of with the time and ability to do that. That’s all I was saying.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: work_lurker on March 13, 2024, 05:55:51 PM
I had a face once, it was terrible.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: texastoast on March 13, 2024, 07:21:45 PM
did any of yall skate today? and how was yall session?
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: somedudefromnj on March 13, 2024, 07:41:42 PM
did any of yall skate today? and how was yall session?

shit sucked, been having weird muscle spasms

but something tells me you dont actually care so

maybe its the caffeine
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Southernmost on March 13, 2024, 09:36:24 PM
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did any of yall skate today? and how was yall session?
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shit sucked, been having weird muscle spasms

but something tells me you dont actually care so

maybe its the caffeine

Make sure to drink lots of water, maybe eat something light and healthy before the sesh. Try to slow down on the caffeine consumption and cut back on the intake. I overdo it myself all the time. I hope your next sesh is better than your last. I didn’t make it out skating today, hopefully get out this weekend. Haven’t been too hyped on skating lately.  I’ve been feeling lethargic.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Shtonk on March 13, 2024, 11:44:58 PM
My sesh this morning gave me a tiny hole in the head from hanging up on a ten inch high front board. The gods have punished me for my leftism
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Rick Trapasso on March 14, 2024, 04:14:39 AM
My sesh this morning gave me a tiny hole in the head from hanging up on a ten inch high front board. The gods have punished me for my leftism

You're definitely reading too much into things, but that does seem to be the trend of this thread.

You just suck at front boards, it's not that deep.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: GAY on March 14, 2024, 06:47:27 AM
did any of yall skate today? and how was yall session?

Oh my goodness no.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Banned from the room on March 14, 2024, 06:52:36 AM
My session is fully swollen and thumping an excited rhythm.
Boom boom boom bah bah boom boom boom
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Frank Sobotka on March 14, 2024, 07:34:26 AM
How has this thread even made it to 16 pages? Is libel not a thing in the US? Unless someone has some actual, irrefutable evidence that Joa is racist, then this should have been locked ages ago. I know that I wasn't pleased with his aggressive Tom Knox criticism at the time, but I still know how to read someone's character. This lad isn't a fascist. Why don't you ask Akwasi & Arin whether they think he's racist or not? Do you think they would want to be around that type of person? He's just a nerdy ballbreaker who makes fun of kooky behaviour and seems to have a good understanding of the fluctuation of trends. He makes fun of loads of cunts of all different backgrounds, stop clutching at straws.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: somedudefromnj on March 14, 2024, 07:46:32 AM
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shit sucked, been having weird muscle spasms

but something tells me you dont actually care so

maybe its the caffeine
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Make sure to drink lots of water, maybe eat something light and healthy before the sesh. Try to slow down on the caffeine consumption and cut back on the intake. I overdo it myself all the time. I hope your next sesh is better than your last. I didn’t make it out skating today, hopefully get out this weekend. Haven’t been too hyped on skating lately.  I’ve been feeling lethargic.

thanks homie! Ive definitely been slacking on my water these last few weeks. Hope the weather is as nice for you as it has been in jersey these last few days!

How has this thread even made it to 16 pages? Is libel not a thing in the US? Unless someone has some actual, irrefutable evidence that Joa is racist, then this should have been locked ages ago. I know that I wasn't pleased with his aggressive Tom Knox criticism at the time, but I still know how to read someone's character. This lad isn't a fascist. Why don't you ask Akwasi & Arin whether they think he's racist or not? Do you think they would want to be around that type of person? He's just a nerdy ballbreaker who makes fun of kooky behaviour and seems to have a good understanding of the fluctuation of trends. He makes fun of loads of cunts of all different backgrounds, stop clutching at straws.

wild that a plain ass sticker from a different thread lead to a 16 page shit show
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: InkkeACAB on March 14, 2024, 08:01:41 AM
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How has this thread even made it to 16 pages? Is libel not a thing in the US? Unless someone has some actual, irrefutable evidence that Joa is racist, then this should have been locked ages ago. I know that I wasn't pleased with his aggressive Tom Knox criticism at the time, but I still know how to read someone's character. This lad isn't a fascist. Why don't you ask Akwasi & Arin whether they think he's racist or not? Do you think they would want to be around that type of person? He's just a nerdy ballbreaker who makes fun of kooky behaviour and seems to have a good understanding of the fluctuation of trends. He makes fun of loads of cunts of all different backgrounds, stop clutching at straws.
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“I can’t be racist I have black friends”

you're reading what you wonna see, give it a rest
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: SatanicPanic on March 14, 2024, 08:08:20 AM
How has this thread even made it to 16 pages? Is libel not a thing in the US? Unless someone has some actual, irrefutable evidence that Joa is racist, then this should have been locked ages ago. I know that I wasn't pleased with his aggressive Tom Knox criticism at the time, but I still know how to read someone's character. This lad isn't a fascist. Why don't you ask Akwasi & Arin whether they think he's racist or not? Do you think they would want to be around that type of person? He's just a nerdy ballbreaker who makes fun of kooky behaviour and seems to have a good understanding of the fluctuation of trends. He makes fun of loads of cunts of all different backgrounds, stop clutching at straws.
“He’s racist “ is considered an opinion by the courts, so the OP hasn’t legally libeled anyone. You’d have to invent some disproveable fact about Joa that “proves” he’s a racist, like claiming he belongs to the Klan or that he voted for Trump.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Dante Bichette on March 14, 2024, 08:09:34 AM
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How has this thread even made it to 16 pages? Is libel not a thing in the US? Unless someone has some actual, irrefutable evidence that Joa is racist, then this should have been locked ages ago. I know that I wasn't pleased with his aggressive Tom Knox criticism at the time, but I still know how to read someone's character. This lad isn't a fascist. Why don't you ask Akwasi & Arin whether they think he's racist or not? Do you think they would want to be around that type of person? He's just a nerdy ballbreaker who makes fun of kooky behaviour and seems to have a good understanding of the fluctuation of trends. He makes fun of loads of cunts of all different backgrounds, stop clutching at straws.
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“I can’t be racist I have black friends”
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you're reading what you wonna see, give it a rest

Nah come on that is 100% what it is.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on March 14, 2024, 08:29:42 AM
I’ve avoided weighing in on non cooking related portions of this topic, but it’s worth stating again.

It’s pathetic how many of you hang off of Joa’s balls, waiting.. tongue outstretched to catch the most minuscule morsel of sweat that drips from his dangly wrinkled skin pouch. You are grown adults watching YouTubers and subscribing to Patreon accounts that talk about skateboard related opinions of some 4chan-esque edge lord.

It’s like a good portion of you are incapable of formulating an original thought outside of what this character deems is cool or passable, like this fucking dork is your gatekeeping shepherd.

Again, I harken back to the Tom Knox ordeal. Tom Knox was universally loved here all the way from Vase up to the most recent Atlantic Drift videos, that is until Joa with his insecure inferiority complex told you dimwit douchebags how to feel about him.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Newphone on March 14, 2024, 08:52:12 AM
I’ve avoided weighing in on non cooking related portions of this topic, but it’s worth stating again.

It’s pathetic how many of you hang off of Joa’s balls, waiting.. tongue outstretched to catch the most minuscule morsel of sweat that drips from his dangly wrinkled skin pouch. You are grown adults watching YouTubers and subscribing to Patreon accounts that talk about skateboard related opinions of some 4chan-esque edge lord.

It’s like a good portion of you are incapable of formulating an original thought outside of what this character deems is cool or passable, like this fucking dork is your gatekeeping shepherd.

Again, I harken back to the Tom Knox ordeal. Tom Knox was universally loved here all the way from Vase up to the most recent Atlantic Drift videos, that is until Joa with his insecure inferiority complex told you dimwit douchebags how to feel about him.

I encourage everyone to remember that this thread was started to call GH a facist for having an anti Hassan Piker sticker in a picture.

You can not idolize GH, or even like him, and realize that’s an insane take to not expect pushback on, that Hassan Piker is beyond reproach.

I would argue that the OP who believes this is doing the ball sweat anticipation thing that you so eloquently described with that online personality, and to a degree I have never seen any poster here do for Joa.  Who has said GH is beyond criticism like op said of piker?

If you’re unfamiliar with Hassan here’s a little overview of some of his work from a podcast that came out yesterday.  These guys have a podcast devoted to skewering usually right wing figures and even they found room for two hours of the clownish antics of piker.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/decoding-the-gurus/id1531266667?i=1000648985770

Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Newphone on March 14, 2024, 09:02:15 AM
I’ve avoided weighing in on non cooking related portions of this topic, but it’s worth stating again.

It’s pathetic how many of you hang off of Joa’s balls, waiting.. tongue outstretched to catch the most minuscule morsel of sweat that drips from his dangly wrinkled skin pouch. You are grown adults watching YouTubers and subscribing to Patreon accounts that talk about skateboard related opinions of some 4chan-esque edge lord.

It’s like a good portion of you are incapable of formulating an original thought outside of what this character deems is cool or passable, like this fucking dork is your gatekeeping shepherd.

Again, I harken back to the Tom Knox ordeal. Tom Knox was universally loved here all the way from Vase up to the most recent Atlantic Drift videos, that is until Joa with his insecure inferiority complex told you dimwit douchebags how to feel about him.


Also this. What planet are you on? Dylan was unquestioned, until someone mocked his arms on ride away.  Same with Brent Achley.  Same with countless others.

Does it take these guys sniffing one too many of their own farts for someone to notice or is that just the price of being different and at the top?  We may never know, but I can sure as fuck tell you they were coming for tom with GH or not eventually.

Doesn’t mean that Dylan or Brent or Tom don’t rule, they all obviously fucking do, but their human, and they’re flawed and mockable and we love em for it.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: SatanicPanic on March 14, 2024, 09:31:37 AM
I’ve avoided weighing in on non cooking related portions of this topic, but it’s worth stating again.

It’s pathetic how many of you hang off of Joa’s balls, waiting.. tongue outstretched to catch the most minuscule morsel of sweat that drips from his dangly wrinkled skin pouch. You are grown adults watching YouTubers and subscribing to Patreon accounts that talk about skateboard related opinions of some 4chan-esque edge lord.

It’s like a good portion of you are incapable of formulating an original thought outside of what this character deems is cool or passable, like this fucking dork is your gatekeeping shepherd.

Again, I harken back to the Tom Knox ordeal. Tom Knox was universally loved here all the way from Vase up to the most recent Atlantic Drift videos, that is until Joa with his insecure inferiority complex told you dimwit douchebags how to feel about him.
Tom dropped that last video during SOTY season and it was obviously going to be under scrutiny. The reaction here was “seems like he’s sandbagging with a video that’s below his normal level “. I didn’t need Joa to point that out.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: thailand on March 14, 2024, 09:51:04 AM
Gifted hater and hassan are entertainment for 13 year olds

You guys need to get off the internet
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: thehogsniper on March 14, 2024, 10:03:35 AM
There's sixteen pages
Trashing some bum youtubers
Please delete this thread
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: SHARPSHOOTER on March 14, 2024, 10:08:38 AM
Skating has gone marshmallow soft these days. Can’t say shit about anyone anymore. Would it make you happy if he only ragged on dudes that ride anti hero boards
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: coop on March 14, 2024, 10:09:24 AM
I've been lurking on this great forum for 10+ years, and this is the first time a thread has been such a car crash that I've ever even thought about posting. This dumb ass culture wars squabbling isn't the reason anyone comes to slap, so let's please not have this site turn into a skateboarding microcosm of the rest of the shitty internet (twitter, reddit)

The biggest issue in American politics and society in 2024 is the binary, black and white thinking employed by the majority of people. A lot of people in posting in this thread (on both sides btw) are without a doubt intelligent people, but with a tendency to oversimplify complicated issues and attack those disagreeing with them without giving proper consideration to what's been said.

FWIW, do I think GH is a fascist? I personally don't think he's targeted a disproportionately high number of black skaters so the answer is no. I believe in equal opportunities clowning. As long as you have valid reasons for your criticisms that don't veer into bad taste I think it's important to make fun of every race, gender, ideology equally. For me personally if GH didn't rip on Robert Neal for failing to land a single trick at a contest while wearing a hot wheels jacket, he wouldn't be doing his job. Also Hasan Piker fucking sucks and if we can't make fun of him because he's 'the only voice we have against fascism' then we're truly all fucked.

Lastly, trans lives matter. Support trans people's rights to be whoever the fuck they want to be OBVIOUSLY. But also we need to listen to women and respect woman's spaces. It's really easy for a bunch of dudes on an Internet forum to say that there's no issue whatsoever with trans integration into woman's sports, but the reality is that it's an extremely complicated issue if you're truly interested in protecting the interests of both groups equally. Trans women absolutely should be able to compete in sports at as high a level as anyone else, but women also need to be listened to without having to worry about being shamed and called a fascist (not talking about that girl from the contest btw she sucks). There needs to be a solution that works for everyone, and for that to happen there needs to be an open dialogue.

Rant over, returning to lurking.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: thehogsniper on March 14, 2024, 10:13:46 AM
I've been lurking on this great forum for 10+ years, and this is the first time a thread has been such a car crash that I've ever even thought about posting. This dumb ass culture wars squabbling isn't the reason anyone comes to slap, so let's please not have this site turn into a skateboarding microcosm of the rest of the shitty internet (twitter, reddit)

The biggest issue in American politics and society in 2024 is the binary, black and white thinking employed by the majority of people. A lot of people in posting in this thread (on both sides btw) are without a doubt intelligent people, but with a tendency to oversimplify complicated issues and attack those disagreeing with them without giving proper consideration to what's been said.

FWIW, do I think GH is a fascist? I personally don't think he's targeted a disproportionately high number of black skaters so the answer is no. I believe in equal opportunities clowning. As long as you have valid reasons for your criticisms that don't veer into bad taste I think it's important to make fun of every race, gender, ideology equally. For me personally if GH didn't rip on Robert Neal for failing to land a single trick at a contest while wearing a hot wheels jacket, he wouldn't be doing his job. Also Hasan Piker fucking sucks and if we can't make fun of him because he's 'the only voice we have against fascism' then we're truly all fucked.

Lastly, trans lives matter. Support trans people's rights to be whoever the fuck they want to be OBVIOUSLY. But also we need to listen to women and respect woman's spaces. It's really easy for a bunch of dudes on an Internet forum to say that there's no issue whatsoever with trans integration into woman's sports, but the reality is that it's an extremely complicated issue if you're truly interested in protecting the interests of both groups equally. Trans women absolutely should be able to compete in sports at as high a level as anyone else, but women also need to be listened to without having to worry about being shamed and called a fascist (not talking about that girl from the contest btw she sucks). There needs to be a solution that works for everyone, and for that to happen there needs to be an open dialogue.

Rant over, returning to lurking.
yeah but how do you cook your rice
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: ejazzle on March 14, 2024, 10:15:26 AM
There's sixteen pages
Trashing some bum youtubers
Please delete this thread
And then we have other threads that are way less radical and shit flinging that get deleted and swept under the rug within hours.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on March 14, 2024, 10:24:03 AM
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I’ve avoided weighing in on non cooking related portions of this topic, but it’s worth stating again.

It’s pathetic how many of you hang off of Joa’s balls, waiting.. tongue outstretched to catch the most minuscule morsel of sweat that drips from his dangly wrinkled skin pouch. You are grown adults watching YouTubers and subscribing to Patreon accounts that talk about skateboard related opinions of some 4chan-esque edge lord.

It’s like a good portion of you are incapable of formulating an original thought outside of what this character deems is cool or passable, like this fucking dork is your gatekeeping shepherd.

Again, I harken back to the Tom Knox ordeal. Tom Knox was universally loved here all the way from Vase up to the most recent Atlantic Drift videos, that is until Joa with his insecure inferiority complex told you dimwit douchebags how to feel about him.
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Tom dropped that last video during SOTY season and it was obviously going to be under scrutiny. The reaction here was “seems like he’s sandbagging with a video that’s below his normal level “. I didn’t need Joa to point that out.

And that’s a perfectly fine and fair assessment, but a lot of the criticism went beyond that.

Anyways, I’ve said my bit on the matter in another thread.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Style Police on March 14, 2024, 10:31:26 AM
I've been lurking on this great forum for 10+ years, and this is the first time a thread has been such a car crash that I've ever even thought about posting. This dumb ass culture wars squabbling isn't the reason anyone comes to slap, so let's please not have this site turn into a skateboarding microcosm of the rest of the shitty internet (twitter, reddit)

The biggest issue in American politics and society in 2024 is the binary, black and white thinking employed by the majority of people. A lot of people in posting in this thread (on both sides btw) are without a doubt intelligent people, but with a tendency to oversimplify complicated issues and attack those disagreeing with them without giving proper consideration to what's been said.

FWIW, do I think GH is a fascist? I personally don't think he's targeted a disproportionately high number of black skaters so the answer is no. I believe in equal opportunities clowning. As long as you have valid reasons for your criticisms that don't veer into bad taste I think it's important to make fun of every race, gender, ideology equally. For me personally if GH didn't rip on Robert Neal for failing to land a single trick at a contest while wearing a hot wheels jacket, he wouldn't be doing his job. Also Hasan Piker fucking sucks and if we can't make fun of him because he's 'the only voice we have against fascism' then we're truly all fucked.

Lastly, trans lives matter. Support trans people's rights to be whoever the fuck they want to be OBVIOUSLY. But also we need to listen to women and respect woman's spaces. It's really easy for a bunch of dudes on an Internet forum to say that there's no issue whatsoever with trans integration into woman's sports, but the reality is that it's an extremely complicated issue if you're truly interested in protecting the interests of both groups equally. Trans women absolutely should be able to compete in sports at as high a level as anyone else, but women also need to be listened to without having to worry about being shamed and called a fascist (not talking about that girl from the contest btw she sucks). There needs to be a solution that works for everyone, and for that to happen there needs to be an open dialogue.

Rant over, returning to lurking.

Amen
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: herecomesaregular on March 14, 2024, 10:49:35 AM
I've been lurking on this great forum for 10+ years, and this is the first time a thread has been such a car crash that I've ever even thought about posting. This dumb ass culture wars squabbling isn't the reason anyone comes to slap, so let's please not have this site turn into a skateboarding microcosm of the rest of the shitty internet (twitter, reddit)

The biggest issue in American politics and society in 2024 is the binary, black and white thinking employed by the majority of people. A lot of people in posting in this thread (on both sides btw) are without a doubt intelligent people, but with a tendency to oversimplify complicated issues and attack those disagreeing with them without giving proper consideration to what's been said.

FWIW, do I think GH is a fascist? I personally don't think he's targeted a disproportionately high number of black skaters so the answer is no. I believe in equal opportunities clowning. As long as you have valid reasons for your criticisms that don't veer into bad taste I think it's important to make fun of every race, gender, ideology equally. For me personally if GH didn't rip on Robert Neal for failing to land a single trick at a contest while wearing a hot wheels jacket, he wouldn't be doing his job. Also Hasan Piker fucking sucks and if we can't make fun of him because he's 'the only voice we have against fascism' then we're truly all fucked.

Lastly, trans lives matter. Support trans people's rights to be whoever the fuck they want to be OBVIOUSLY. But also we need to listen to women and respect woman's spaces. It's really easy for a bunch of dudes on an Internet forum to say that there's no issue whatsoever with trans integration into woman's sports, but the reality is that it's an extremely complicated issue if you're truly interested in protecting the interests of both groups equally. Trans women absolutely should be able to compete in sports at as high a level as anyone else, but women also need to be listened to without having to worry about being shamed and called a fascist (not talking about that girl from the contest btw she sucks). There needs to be a solution that works for everyone, and for that to happen there needs to be an open dialogue.

Rant over, returning to lurking.

Hi, literally no one called women fascists in this thread and also, I’m the main person who went hard on this issue and news flash: I’m not a man, so it’s not “a bunch of dudes” saying there’s no issue.

“Women” are not asking for trans women to be removed from their sports en masse, and you should know that. The loudest voices against trans women’s exclusion is cis men. So spare me the enlightened centrist stuff. It’s the equivalent of “I don’t mind gay people just don’t kiss in front of me”-style opinions. This is a solution in search of a problem, brought on by literal fascists as a strategy to mainstream trans exclusion in general. Literally the “what about black on black crime???” of gender politics. I’m assuming based on your language that you’re a man, so if so: sit down.

Also, it’s frustrating as hell for you to come in here, engage in an argument with a multi-paragraph response and then claim you didn’t wanna participate and that you’re done. You just stirred shit back up again when the thread was winding down.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: texastoast on March 14, 2024, 11:27:47 AM
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did any of yall skate today? and how was yall session?
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shit sucked, been having weird muscle spasms

but something tells me you dont actually care so

maybe its the caffeine

where are ya getting muscle spasms?

maybe caffeine i find my eyes tend to twitch after too much caffeine. but other then that ive been getting muscle tensions and spasms as if late too
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: herecomesaregular on March 14, 2024, 11:41:13 AM
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I've been lurking on this great forum for 10+ years, and this is the first time a thread has been such a car crash that I've ever even thought about posting. This dumb ass culture wars squabbling isn't the reason anyone comes to slap, so let's please not have this site turn into a skateboarding microcosm of the rest of the shitty internet (twitter, reddit)

The biggest issue in American politics and society in 2024 is the binary, black and white thinking employed by the majority of people. A lot of people in posting in this thread (on both sides btw) are without a doubt intelligent people, but with a tendency to oversimplify complicated issues and attack those disagreeing with them without giving proper consideration to what's been said.

FWIW, do I think GH is a fascist? I personally don't think he's targeted a disproportionately high number of black skaters so the answer is no. I believe in equal opportunities clowning. As long as you have valid reasons for your criticisms that don't veer into bad taste I think it's important to make fun of every race, gender, ideology equally. For me personally if GH didn't rip on Robert Neal for failing to land a single trick at a contest while wearing a hot wheels jacket, he wouldn't be doing his job. Also Hasan Piker fucking sucks and if we can't make fun of him because he's 'the only voice we have against fascism' then we're truly all fucked.

Lastly, trans lives matter. Support trans people's rights to be whoever the fuck they want to be OBVIOUSLY. But also we need to listen to women and respect woman's spaces. It's really easy for a bunch of dudes on an Internet forum to say that there's no issue whatsoever with trans integration into woman's sports, but the reality is that it's an extremely complicated issue if you're truly interested in protecting the interests of both groups equally. Trans women absolutely should be able to compete in sports at as high a level as anyone else, but women also need to be listened to without having to worry about being shamed and called a fascist (not talking about that girl from the contest btw she sucks). There needs to be a solution that works for everyone, and for that to happen there needs to be an open dialogue.

Rant over, returning to lurking.
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Hi, literally no one called women fascists in this thread and also, I’m the main person who went hard on this issue and news flash: I’m not a man, so it’s not “a bunch of dudes” saying there’s no issue.

“Women” are not asking for trans women to be removed from their sports en masse, and you should know that. The loudest voices against trans women’s exclusion is cis men. So spare me the enlightened centrist stuff. It’s the equivalent of “I don’t mind gay people just don’t kiss in front of me”-style opinions. This is a solution in search of a problem, brought on by literal fascists as a strategy to mainstream trans exclusion in general. Literally the “what about black on black crime???” of gender politics. I’m assuming based on your language that you’re a man, so if so: sit down.

Also, it’s frustrating as hell for you to come in here, engage in an argument with a multi-paragraph response and then claim you didn’t wanna participate and that you’re done. You just stirred shit back up again when the thread was winding down.

While I’m at it, feel free to read this:

https://www.aclu.org/wp-content/uploads/legal-documents/hecox_v_little_-_safer_declaration.pdf

In short there’s no evidence that trans women (after 12 months of hormone therapy, which is the current standard for sports participation in the U.S.) have a significant advantage in sports that normal variation in genetic and physiological makeup of cis women wouldn’t already introduce. The only study that’s been done showed exactly the opposite: 8 trans women runners were studied and after transition they were the same level of competitiveness in the women’s category as they were pre-transition in the men’s category.

And also, just to bring this back to skateboarding, since that’s why we’re all here: skateboarding (even and arguably especially skate competitions) isn’t a test of strength, speed, or any other quantifiable sports metric, so this shit isn’t even relevant to us. Even in the “top” competitions, sls and the Olympics, skaters are JUDGED, not timed or measured in order to get their scores. Athleticism is not what anyone is competing in. Jinwoo doing flip in flip out NBD’s in a run before he’s hit puberty and with like no height or muscle density at all should be a perfect distillation of my point here. And also the point that he’s not considered the best for entirely un-sports-ish reasons: style and trick selection.

And yes, Thailand, I’m trans it’s not a secret feel free to peruse my post history where I’m fully transparent about that.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: coop on March 14, 2024, 12:14:59 PM
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I've been lurking on this great forum for 10+ years, and this is the first time a thread has been such a car crash that I've ever even thought about posting. This dumb ass culture wars squabbling isn't the reason anyone comes to slap, so let's please not have this site turn into a skateboarding microcosm of the rest of the shitty internet (twitter, reddit)

The biggest issue in American politics and society in 2024 is the binary, black and white thinking employed by the majority of people. A lot of people in posting in this thread (on both sides btw) are without a doubt intelligent people, but with a tendency to oversimplify complicated issues and attack those disagreeing with them without giving proper consideration to what's been said.

FWIW, do I think GH is a fascist? I personally don't think he's targeted a disproportionately high number of black skaters so the answer is no. I believe in equal opportunities clowning. As long as you have valid reasons for your criticisms that don't veer into bad taste I think it's important to make fun of every race, gender, ideology equally. For me personally if GH didn't rip on Robert Neal for failing to land a single trick at a contest while wearing a hot wheels jacket, he wouldn't be doing his job. Also Hasan Piker fucking sucks and if we can't make fun of him because he's 'the only voice we have against fascism' then we're truly all fucked.

Lastly, trans lives matter. Support trans people's rights to be whoever the fuck they want to be OBVIOUSLY. But also we need to listen to women and respect woman's spaces. It's really easy for a bunch of dudes on an Internet forum to say that there's no issue whatsoever with trans integration into woman's sports, but the reality is that it's an extremely complicated issue if you're truly interested in protecting the interests of both groups equally. Trans women absolutely should be able to compete in sports at as high a level as anyone else, but women also need to be listened to without having to worry about being shamed and called a fascist (not talking about that girl from the contest btw she sucks). There needs to be a solution that works for everyone, and for that to happen there needs to be an open dialogue.

Rant over, returning to lurking.
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Hi, literally no one called women fascists in this thread and also, I’m the main person who went hard on this issue and news flash: I’m not a man, so it’s not “a bunch of dudes” saying there’s no issue.

“Women” are not asking for trans women to be removed from their sports en masse, and you should know that. The loudest voices against trans women’s exclusion is cis men. So spare me the enlightened centrist stuff. It’s the equivalent of “I don’t mind gay people just don’t kiss in front of me”-style opinions. This is a solution in search of a problem, brought on by literal fascists as a strategy to mainstream trans exclusion in general. Literally the “what about black on black crime???” of gender politics. I’m assuming based on your language that you’re a man, so if so: sit down.

Also, it’s frustrating as hell for you to come in here, engage in an argument with a multi-paragraph response and then claim you didn’t wanna participate and that you’re done. You just stirred shit back up again when the thread was winding down.

I didn't come here to spar but I hear what you're saying about it being frustrating for me to post and then dip so will say this.

I Respect your opinion but personally I disagree. I wasn't referring to anyone being called a fascist in this thread, but rather why more women in general don't always feel comfortable voicing their opinions about this particular subject. Like I just shared my opinion in what I feel is a measured, fair way and it's being compared to expressing homophobia and racism. We can disagree without trying to paint eachother as being motivated by hatred. I have absolutely no hatred towards the trans community or any community or group other than (ironically) fascists.

I can't speak to your personal experience or how women feel about this more widely in America as I'm not American. I will say however that in Europe women very much are asking en masse for their sports to be protected and their voices to be heard. I'm talking football (soccer), cycling, athletics etc.

I'm not suggesting for a second that trans athletes should be excluded from high level sports, my point is that to find a solution that works for everyone we need to be more open to discuss these things without attacking eachothers character. For example I'm not an 'enlightened centrist'. Just because I don't share your exact view doesn't mean that I'm a redpilled Rogan listener. We probably have a lot more in common than you're thinking.

ANYWAY really was not trying to add more fuel to the fire,
I realise I'm now contributing to the exact thing I was complaining about in the first place. Just wanted to clarify that all I'm advocating for is people being able to have discussions and disagreements without it getting into shit slinging territory. If you want to discuss further without contributing to this shitty thread feel free to PM me.

Back to lurking for real this time.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: herecomesaregular on March 14, 2024, 12:16:00 PM
The original post was funny, you wanna be my girlfriend 8)

Oh right

the emotion is in your dick.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: zerosugarfruitpunch on March 14, 2024, 02:48:52 PM
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How has this thread even made it to 16 pages? Is libel not a thing in the US? Unless someone has some actual, irrefutable evidence that Joa is racist, then this should have been locked ages ago. I know that I wasn't pleased with his aggressive Tom Knox criticism at the time, but I still know how to read someone's character. This lad isn't a fascist. Why don't you ask Akwasi & Arin whether they think he's racist or not? Do you think they would want to be around that type of person? He's just a nerdy ballbreaker who makes fun of kooky behaviour and seems to have a good understanding of the fluctuation of trends. He makes fun of loads of cunts of all different backgrounds, stop clutching at straws.
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“I can’t be racist I have black friends”
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you're reading what you wonna see, give it a rest
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I don’t think the kids a secret skinhead, or a klan member, or even outwardly hateful. As a black man through experience I don’t think he fully understands black culture to where I find he sees aspects of it as clownish or a joke I don’t think he’s able to understand that societally black culture is parodied and misconstrued as a form of white supremacy. As well as black people not being seen as beautiful due to Eurocentric beauty standards. Often these types of loud mouth over critical white boys (through experience) are fast to tear our culture and our people down and have it be justified however they deem necessary. In our culture or “street culture” shit talking will often get the shit kicked out of you, and he’s openly come out and said how stupid it is that people think like that and it’s a form of “censorship”  confirming to me he truly does not get the culture. I find that to be a read flag especially given his affinity for altright edgelords like Sam Hyde. I don’t wish violence on him rather a hope that he might understand how BLACK PEOPLE construe his behavior towards us.
Ur schizophrenic dude just get off the internet for like two weeks ur fantasizing bout this dude lmao
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: TPB3333 on March 14, 2024, 03:56:57 PM

I don’t think the kids a secret skinhead, or a klan member, or even outwardly hateful. As a black man through experience I don’t think he fully understands black culture to where I find he sees aspects of it as clownish or a joke I don’t think he’s able to understand that societally black culture is parodied and misconstrued as a form of white supremacy. As well as black people not being seen as beautiful due to Eurocentric beauty standards. Often these types of loud mouth over critical white boys (through experience) are fast to tear our culture and our people down and have it be justified however they deem necessary. In our culture or “street culture” shit talking will often get the shit kicked out of you, and he’s openly come out and said how stupid it is that people think like that and it’s a form of “censorship”  confirming to me he truly does not get the culture. I find that to be a read flag especially given his affinity for altright edgelords like Sam Hyde. I don’t wish violence on him rather a hope that he might understand how BLACK PEOPLE construe his behavior towards us.

I agree with this to a great extend, but what is he then to do? Not talk about black skaters at all? Or only praising black skaters? Which would also be an unsincere approach right? Also the fact that shit talking will get you beaten up is not something you have to just accept. I don't think resorting to violence as a retaliation for anything else but violence is a good thing, even if you can have compassion for why (be it socio economic or racism related reasons) this has become part of peoples intuition. And maybe he's not in a position to speak on that normally, but now he is, cause it affects him.

I think he doesn't do that much wrong, I just wish he would acknowledge more that he doesn't understand black culture or black peoples experience that well. I feel like in his patreon videos he's usually a lot more nuanced and well spoken and the stuff he puts out on youtube is a bit more outlandish. I guess he kind of feels like that's expected from him or something, but it hurts him because he doesn't engage with these topics in a serious and nuanced way in public.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Bobbybanana on March 14, 2024, 05:12:26 PM
He is def an edgelord. He was running that “ironic” trump punisher hat for a while.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: IUTSM on March 14, 2024, 06:27:30 PM
We got people of color and a trans woman sharing their experience and we got White people, cis men, straight men, expressing conditional approval for said marginalized experience, condition being that their opinion on race, gender matters too.

Your opinion doesn’t matter. Might expand your hearts and minds to just listen
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: somedudefromnj on March 14, 2024, 06:44:18 PM
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did any of yall skate today? and how was yall session?
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shit sucked, been having weird muscle spasms

but something tells me you dont actually care so

maybe its the caffeine
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where are ya getting muscle spasms?

maybe caffeine i find my eyes tend to twitch after too much caffeine. but other then that ive been getting muscle tensions and spasms as if late too

shit, I hope you're good and its nothing serious. For me its been my right palm. Id be lying if I said it didnt make me paranoid, but the day I was out skating it felt different. Almost like I felt it in my brain or something, but I wonder if Im just thinking too much into it

Have yours been random?

as for the rest of you handsome bastards, hope you did a rocket flippy trick for Gofted Hater today

Im not gonna watch his videos, but I am curious about this Tom Knox one that keeps being brought up
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Rick Trapasso on March 14, 2024, 08:10:04 PM
17 pages from a typo

Wait, wrong thread.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: grassblade on March 14, 2024, 08:14:33 PM
hes not a racist, just dumb

and associating with ricky glaser proves that
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Lou Strux on March 14, 2024, 08:48:24 PM
17 pages from a typo

Wait, wrong thread.
LOL.
Good one!
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Dustgod on March 15, 2024, 07:26:28 AM
I’ve avoided weighing in on non cooking related portions of this topic, but it’s worth stating again.

It’s pathetic how many of you hang off of Joa’s balls, waiting.. tongue outstretched to catch the most minuscule morsel of sweat that drips from his dangly wrinkled skin pouch. You are grown adults watching YouTubers and subscribing to Patreon accounts that talk about skateboard related opinions of some 4chan-esque edge lord.

It’s like a good portion of you are incapable of formulating an original thought outside of what this character deems is cool or passable, like this fucking dork is your gatekeeping shepherd.

Again, I harken back to the Tom Knox ordeal. Tom Knox was universally loved here all the way from Vase up to the most recent Atlantic Drift videos, that is until Joa with his insecure inferiority complex told you dimwit douchebags how to feel about him.


Nah I thought Tom’s skating was ass way before that video
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Ignatius J Reilly on March 15, 2024, 08:39:18 AM
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I’ve avoided weighing in on non cooking related portions of this topic, but it’s worth stating again.

It’s pathetic how many of you hang off of Joa’s balls, waiting.. tongue outstretched to catch the most minuscule morsel of sweat that drips from his dangly wrinkled skin pouch. You are grown adults watching YouTubers and subscribing to Patreon accounts that talk about skateboard related opinions of some 4chan-esque edge lord.

It’s like a good portion of you are incapable of formulating an original thought outside of what this character deems is cool or passable, like this fucking dork is your gatekeeping shepherd.

Again, I harken back to the Tom Knox ordeal. Tom Knox was universally loved here all the way from Vase up to the most recent Atlantic Drift videos, that is until Joa with his insecure inferiority complex told you dimwit douchebags how to feel about him.
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Nah I thought Tom’s skating was ass way before that video
how embarrassing for you
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on March 15, 2024, 09:02:26 AM
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I’ve avoided weighing in on non cooking related portions of this topic, but it’s worth stating again.

It’s pathetic how many of you hang off of Joa’s balls, waiting.. tongue outstretched to catch the most minuscule morsel of sweat that drips from his dangly wrinkled skin pouch. You are grown adults watching YouTubers and subscribing to Patreon accounts that talk about skateboard related opinions of some 4chan-esque edge lord.

It’s like a good portion of you are incapable of formulating an original thought outside of what this character deems is cool or passable, like this fucking dork is your gatekeeping shepherd.

Again, I harken back to the Tom Knox ordeal. Tom Knox was universally loved here all the way from Vase up to the most recent Atlantic Drift videos, that is until Joa with his insecure inferiority complex told you dimwit douchebags how to feel about him.
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Nah I thought Tom’s skating was ass way before that video

Congrats on your lack of good taste?
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: JugeL on March 15, 2024, 09:16:24 AM
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Arin is only popular because everyone wants the bussy
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not gonna lie I didnt care about Arin until seeing how easy she manual frontside flips

still a short list of people who do them

can we get a list going?

Arin Lester
Jeron Wilson
Javier Sarmiento

and I'll probably need some help after that
People that should do them:

None
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Newphone on March 15, 2024, 09:46:26 AM
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I’ve avoided weighing in on non cooking related portions of this topic, but it’s worth stating again.

It’s pathetic how many of you hang off of Joa’s balls, waiting.. tongue outstretched to catch the most minuscule morsel of sweat that drips from his dangly wrinkled skin pouch. You are grown adults watching YouTubers and subscribing to Patreon accounts that talk about skateboard related opinions of some 4chan-esque edge lord.

It’s like a good portion of you are incapable of formulating an original thought outside of what this character deems is cool or passable, like this fucking dork is your gatekeeping shepherd.

Again, I harken back to the Tom Knox ordeal. Tom Knox was universally loved here all the way from Vase up to the most recent Atlantic Drift videos, that is until Joa with his insecure inferiority complex told you dimwit douchebags how to feel about him.
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Nah I thought Tom’s skating was ass way before that video

His skating is certainly not ass, but it’s a schticky situation.

Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Shtonk on March 15, 2024, 03:27:28 PM
I’ve avoided weighing in on non cooking related portions of this topic, but it’s worth stating again.

It’s pathetic how many of you hang off of Joa’s balls, waiting.. tongue outstretched to catch the most minuscule morsel of sweat that drips from his dangly wrinkled skin pouch. You are grown adults watching YouTubers and subscribing to Patreon accounts that talk about skateboard related opinions of some 4chan-esque edge lord.

It’s like a good portion of you are incapable of formulating an original thought outside of what this character deems is cool or passable, like this fucking dork is your gatekeeping shepherd.

Again, I harken back to the Tom Knox ordeal. Tom Knox was universally loved here all the way from Vase up to the most recent Atlantic Drift videos, that is until Joa with his insecure inferiority complex told you dimwit douchebags how to feel e about him.

All this rage and then you can't even spell or use "hearken back" right. Joa is the only worthwhile critical voice in skateboarding today. If there were others, I'm sure they would also get attention. Tom Knox is a darling but his output last year was sub par. Nobody hates him for it, but the parts did suck and Dickies makes him look a lot less sexy than he used to. But good one using a homophobic trope to diss people for following one person when you clearly feel equally strongly about Tommieboy ...
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Post by: texastoast on March 15, 2024, 04:59:52 PM
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did any of yall skate today? and how was yall session?
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shit sucked, been having weird muscle spasms

but something tells me you dont actually care so

maybe its the caffeine
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where are ya getting muscle spasms?

maybe caffeine i find my eyes tend to twitch after too much caffeine. but other then that ive been getting muscle tensions and spasms as if late too
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shit, I hope you're good and its nothing serious. For me its been my right palm. Id be lying if I said it didnt make me paranoid, but the day I was out skating it felt different. Almost like I felt it in my brain or something, but I wonder if Im just thinking too much into it

Have yours been random?


thanks man. sorry its got ya thinking alot, have ya got it checked? it might be worth getting checked out

up until yesterday i forced myself to think it was just random but hurt my back at work. came to the realization works been fuckin me up
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Bumba on March 15, 2024, 06:17:52 PM
We got people of color and a trans woman sharing their experience and we got White people, cis men, straight men, expressing conditional approval for said marginalized experience, condition being that their opinion on race, gender matters too.

Your opinion doesn’t matter. Might expand your hearts and minds to just listen

I'm not white and I said he isn't racist but no one listened to me 🤷🏻
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: CurbRaiders on March 15, 2024, 06:22:16 PM
Dan Corrigan is way more racist, he genocided his black teeth for pearly white ones.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: ok boomer on March 16, 2024, 05:16:58 PM
I used to be a gifted bater
When I was a young skater
Til I became a gifted dater
C u all L8r
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: ThatIsNotCricket on March 16, 2024, 06:42:36 PM
It’s pathetic how many of you hang off of Joa’s balls, waiting.. tongue outstretched to catch the most minuscule morsel of sweat that drips from his dangly wrinkled skin pouch.

https://literaryreview.co.uk/bad-sex-in-fiction-award

I think that 2024 trophy is going your way!
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: conan777 on March 16, 2024, 08:37:00 PM
Making fun of a hot wheels jacket is racist because black kids play with toy cars? Sorry, what? Do white kids not play with toy cars too 😂
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Cockmeat Sandwich on March 16, 2024, 09:33:32 PM
Did anyone get upset about the fact that Gorfted Frucktard talked shit about a half Indian skater called Tom Knox in this thread yet?
Because if not I can be that person.
Also any white dawggg that says shit about Tom is racist.
Also just want to say Robert Neal fucking sucks.
If anyone wants to know My mother was born in India with a father who is from Afghanistan and her Mum is Burmese/ Indian. My dad is Irish And Indigenous Australian, all you racists probably know that as Aboriginal.
This is the worst thread on Slap I think I’ve ever read in the many years I’ve lurked on here.
All you cunts need to go for a walk
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Yonnycage on March 16, 2024, 11:03:17 PM
Did anyone get upset about the fact that Gorfted Frucktard talked shit about a half Indian skater called Tom Knox in this thread yet?
Because if not I can be that person.
Also any white dawggg that says shit about Tom is racist.
Also just want to say Robert Neal fucking sucks.
If anyone wants to know My mother was born in India with a father who is from Afghanistan and her Mum is Burmese/ Indian. My dad is Irish And Indigenous Australian, all you racists probably know that as Aboriginal.
This is the worst thread on Slap I think I’ve ever read in the many years I’ve lurked on here.
All you cunts need to go for a walk

You rule
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: sk4terX on March 17, 2024, 08:27:40 AM
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I’ve avoided weighing in on non cooking related portions of this topic, but it’s worth stating again.

It’s pathetic how many of you hang off of Joa’s balls, waiting.. tongue outstretched to catch the most minuscule morsel of sweat that drips from his dangly wrinkled skin pouch. You are grown adults watching YouTubers and subscribing to Patreon accounts that talk about skateboard related opinions of some 4chan-esque edge lord.

It’s like a good portion of you are incapable of formulating an original thought outside of what this character deems is cool or passable, like this fucking dork is your gatekeeping shepherd.

Again, I harken back to the Tom Knox ordeal. Tom Knox was universally loved here all the way from Vase up to the most recent Atlantic Drift videos, that is until Joa with his insecure inferiority complex told you dimwit douchebags how to feel e about him.
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 Joa is the only worthwhile critical voice in skateboarding today.

What a fun way to out yourself as a kook
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: sk4terX on March 17, 2024, 08:35:15 AM
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How has this thread even made it to 16 pages? Is libel not a thing in the US? Unless someone has some actual, irrefutable evidence that Joa is racist, then this should have been locked ages ago. I know that I wasn't pleased with his aggressive Tom Knox criticism at the time, but I still know how to read someone's character. This lad isn't a fascist. Why don't you ask Akwasi & Arin whether they think he's racist or not? Do you think they would want to be around that type of person? He's just a nerdy ballbreaker who makes fun of kooky behaviour and seems to have a good understanding of the fluctuation of trends. He makes fun of loads of cunts of all different backgrounds, stop clutching at straws.
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“I can’t be racist I have black friends”
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you're reading what you wonna see, give it a rest
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I don’t think the kids a secret skinhead, or a klan member, or even outwardly hateful. As a black man through experience I don’t think he fully understands black culture to where I find he sees aspects of it as clownish or a joke I don’t think he’s able to understand that societally black culture is parodied and misconstrued as a form of white supremacy. As well as black people not being seen as beautiful due to Eurocentric beauty standards. Often these types of loud mouth over critical white boys (through experience) are fast to tear our culture and our people down and have it be justified however they deem necessary. In our culture or “street culture” shit talking will often get the shit kicked out of you, and he’s openly come out and said how stupid it is that people think like that and it’s a form of “censorship”  confirming to me he truly does not get the culture. I find that to be a read flag especially given his affinity for altright edgelords like Sam Hyde. I don’t wish violence on him rather a hope that he might understand how BLACK PEOPLE construe his behavior towards us.

BRO HE FUCKS WITH SAM HYDE?!! How is this even a question anymore he's for sure Diet Racist at BEST
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Newphone on March 17, 2024, 09:05:32 AM
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Did anyone get upset about the fact that Gorfted Frucktard talked shit about a half Indian skater called Tom Knox in this thread yet?
Because if not I can be that person.
Also any white dawggg that says shit about Tom is racist.
Also just want to say Robert Neal fucking sucks.
If anyone wants to know My mother was born in India with a father who is from Afghanistan and her Mum is Burmese/ Indian. My dad is Irish And Indigenous Australian, all you racists probably know that as Aboriginal.
This is the worst thread on Slap I think I’ve ever read in the many years I’ve lurked on here.
All you cunts need to go for a walk
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The name goes kinda hard though

Cockmeat Samosa or cornedcockbeefNcabbage could have been cool too
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: JM on March 17, 2024, 10:28:58 AM
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Did anyone get upset about the fact that Gorfted Frucktard talked shit about a half Indian skater called Tom Knox in this thread yet?
Because if not I can be that person.
Also any white dawggg that says shit about Tom is racist.
Also just want to say Robert Neal fucking sucks.
If anyone wants to know My mother was born in India with a father who is from Afghanistan and her Mum is Burmese/ Indian. My dad is Irish And Indigenous Australian, all you racists probably know that as Aboriginal.
This is the worst thread on Slap I think I’ve ever read in the many years I’ve lurked on here.
All you cunts need to go for a walk
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The name goes kinda hard though
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Cockmeat Samosa or cornedcockbeefNcabbage could have been cool too
GuzzleDuzzleMcFuzzleRuzzle
TheRizzleMcDizzle
Arby’s…
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: eezz on March 17, 2024, 11:01:21 AM
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How has this thread even made it to 16 pages? Is libel not a thing in the US? Unless someone has some actual, irrefutable evidence that Joa is racist, then this should have been locked ages ago. I know that I wasn't pleased with his aggressive Tom Knox criticism at the time, but I still know how to read someone's character. This lad isn't a fascist. Why don't you ask Akwasi & Arin whether they think he's racist or not? Do you think they would want to be around that type of person? He's just a nerdy ballbreaker who makes fun of kooky behaviour and seems to have a good understanding of the fluctuation of trends. He makes fun of loads of cunts of all different backgrounds, stop clutching at straws.
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“I can’t be racist I have black friends”
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you're reading what you wonna see, give it a rest
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I don’t think the kids a secret skinhead, or a klan member, or even outwardly hateful. As a black man through experience I don’t think he fully understands black culture to where I find he sees aspects of it as clownish or a joke I don’t think he’s able to understand that societally black culture is parodied and misconstrued as a form of white supremacy. As well as black people not being seen as beautiful due to Eurocentric beauty standards. Often these types of loud mouth over critical white boys (through experience) are fast to tear our culture and our people down and have it be justified however they deem necessary. In our culture or “street culture” shit talking will often get the shit kicked out of you, and he’s openly come out and said how stupid it is that people think like that and it’s a form of “censorship”  confirming to me he truly does not get the culture. I find that to be a read flag especially given his affinity for altright edgelords like Sam Hyde. I don’t wish violence on him rather a hope that he might understand how BLACK PEOPLE construe his behavior towards us.
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BRO HE FUCKS WITH SAM HYDE?!! How is this even a question anymore he's for sure Diet Racist at BEST

somone linked a clip from some stream earlier, this is what he said about sam hyde
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88QU2b62b80
Its crazy how you keep reading some 2nd hand accounts and then draw ur own super harsh conclusions from them lol. Rly should practice some media literacy like wtf were u on about with the tim pool association. Not everything is so black and white and someone disagreeing with you doesnt make them a racist or fascist
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: skate_or_dingus on March 17, 2024, 11:58:22 AM
 Still doesn't make Joa a racist.
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Post by: JANUS on March 17, 2024, 12:13:18 PM
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How has this thread even made it to 16 pages? Is libel not a thing in the US? Unless someone has some actual, irrefutable evidence that Joa is racist, then this should have been locked ages ago. I know that I wasn't pleased with his aggressive Tom Knox criticism at the time, but I still know how to read someone's character. This lad isn't a fascist. Why don't you ask Akwasi & Arin whether they think he's racist or not? Do you think they would want to be around that type of person? He's just a nerdy ballbreaker who makes fun of kooky behaviour and seems to have a good understanding of the fluctuation of trends. He makes fun of loads of cunts of all different backgrounds, stop clutching at straws.
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“I can’t be racist I have black friends”
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you're reading what you wonna see, give it a rest
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I don’t think the kids a secret skinhead, or a klan member, or even outwardly hateful. As a black man through experience I don’t think he fully understands black culture to where I find he sees aspects of it as clownish or a joke I don’t think he’s able to understand that societally black culture is parodied and misconstrued as a form of white supremacy. As well as black people not being seen as beautiful due to Eurocentric beauty standards. Often these types of loud mouth over critical white boys (through experience) are fast to tear our culture and our people down and have it be justified however they deem necessary. In our culture or “street culture” shit talking will often get the shit kicked out of you, and he’s openly come out and said how stupid it is that people think like that and it’s a form of “censorship”  confirming to me he truly does not get the culture. I find that to be a read flag especially given his affinity for altright edgelords like Sam Hyde. I don’t wish violence on him rather a hope that he might understand how BLACK PEOPLE construe his behavior towards us.
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BRO HE FUCKS WITH SAM HYDE?!! How is this even a question anymore he's for sure Diet Racist at BEST
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somone linked a clip from some stream earlier, this is what he said about sam hyde
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88QU2b62b80
Its crazy how you keep reading some 2nd hand accounts and then draw ur own super harsh conclusions from them lol. Rly should practice some media literacy like wtf were u on about with the tim pool association. Not everything is so black and white and someone disagreeing with you doesnt make them a racist or fascist

Fuck man, the Where’s Waldo dude really let himself go, huh?
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: drillbitjenkins on March 17, 2024, 01:16:27 PM
right wing or conservative skaters are so fucking stupid, do they not know that skateboarding has always been engrained in counterculture?
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Giftedly Hater’d on March 17, 2024, 02:06:59 PM
right wing or conservative skaters are so fucking stupid, do they not know that skateboarding has always been engrained in counterculture?

No more monoculture = no more counterculture.

Welcome to pluralism. No one’s happy, but anyone can skateboard.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Big Skatefase on March 17, 2024, 04:13:18 PM
Fascist & fascism are very serious words that get thrown around too loosely nowadays from people with low emotional intelligence. At worst GH is simply a useful idiot but fascism is taking it into a complete different dimension. I tend to always caution on the side of being charitable over automatically assuming the worst about someone.

GH just comes across as a sometimes annoying edgy contrarian raised on terminally online zoomer internet culture.

His beef with Hasan is weird tho since it's very one-sided. Hasan has never said anything to him or doesn't even know he exists. I'm guessing since GH is a Destiny fan he simply doesn't like Hasan because Destiny and Hasan have a massive beef. I dunno. Maybe one day he'll come out and say what the beef really is. There are waaaaaaaaay worse streamers than Hasan Piker like Adin Ross. Shit, Sam Hyde is objectively a worse person than Hasan.

Overall "Gofted Hater" should probably just stay out of politics because 1.) it's a messy game and 2.) he clearly doesn't have the expertise in that field. You don't see Hasan giving his SOTY list.

As a black skater I don't think black pro skaters are above criticism when they do kook shit. Calling out black skaters for doing kook shit doesn't come off too me as attacking the "culture". If there are enough other black skaters that feel that way then it should be discussed. But it shouldn't be from non-black skaters playing the white savior role to speak up for black skaters.






Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: zerosugarfruitpunch on March 17, 2024, 07:30:30 PM
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Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Fakie backsideflip on March 18, 2024, 01:56:46 AM
Right wing conservative skaters exist ? It almost sounds like an oxymoron .
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: burner on March 18, 2024, 08:40:24 AM
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I've been lurking on this great forum for 10+ years, and this is the first time a thread has been such a car crash that I've ever even thought about posting. This dumb ass culture wars squabbling isn't the reason anyone comes to slap, so let's please not have this site turn into a skateboarding microcosm of the rest of the shitty internet (twitter, reddit)

The biggest issue in American politics and society in 2024 is the binary, black and white thinking employed by the majority of people. A lot of people in posting in this thread (on both sides btw) are without a doubt intelligent people, but with a tendency to oversimplify complicated issues and attack those disagreeing with them without giving proper consideration to what's been said.

FWIW, do I think GH is a fascist? I personally don't think he's targeted a disproportionately high number of black skaters so the answer is no. I believe in equal opportunities clowning. As long as you have valid reasons for your criticisms that don't veer into bad taste I think it's important to make fun of every race, gender, ideology equally. For me personally if GH didn't rip on Robert Neal for failing to land a single trick at a contest while wearing a hot wheels jacket, he wouldn't be doing his job. Also Hasan Piker fucking sucks and if we can't make fun of him because he's 'the only voice we have against fascism' then we're truly all fucked.

Lastly, trans lives matter. Support trans people's rights to be whoever the fuck they want to be OBVIOUSLY. But also we need to listen to women and respect woman's spaces. It's really easy for a bunch of dudes on an Internet forum to say that there's no issue whatsoever with trans integration into woman's sports, but the reality is that it's an extremely complicated issue if you're truly interested in protecting the interests of both groups equally. Trans women absolutely should be able to compete in sports at as high a level as anyone else, but women also need to be listened to without having to worry about being shamed and called a fascist (not talking about that girl from the contest btw she sucks). There needs to be a solution that works for everyone, and for that to happen there needs to be an open dialogue.

Rant over, returning to lurking.
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Hi, literally no one called women fascists in this thread and also, I’m the main person who went hard on this issue and news flash: I’m not a man, so it’s not “a bunch of dudes” saying there’s no issue.

“Women” are not asking for trans women to be removed from their sports en masse, and you should know that. The loudest voices against trans women’s exclusion is cis men. So spare me the enlightened centrist stuff. It’s the equivalent of “I don’t mind gay people just don’t kiss in front of me”-style opinions. This is a solution in search of a problem, brought on by literal fascists as a strategy to mainstream trans exclusion in general. Literally the “what about black on black crime???” of gender politics. I’m assuming based on your language that you’re a man, so if so: sit down.

Also, it’s frustrating as hell for you to come in here, engage in an argument with a multi-paragraph response and then claim you didn’t wanna participate and that you’re done. You just stirred shit back up again when the thread was winding down.
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I didn't come here to spar but I hear what you're saying about it being frustrating for me to post and then dip so will say this.

I Respect your opinion but personally I disagree. I wasn't referring to anyone being called a fascist in this thread, but rather why more women in general don't always feel comfortable voicing their opinions about this particular subject. Like I just shared my opinion in what I feel is a measured, fair way and it's being compared to expressing homophobia and racism. We can disagree without trying to paint eachother as being motivated by hatred. I have absolutely no hatred towards the trans community or any community or group other than (ironically) fascists.

I can't speak to your personal experience or how women feel about this more widely in America as I'm not American. I will say however that in Europe women very much are asking en masse for their sports to be protected and their voices to be heard. I'm talking football (soccer), cycling, athletics etc.

I'm not suggesting for a second that trans athletes should be excluded from high level sports, my point is that to find a solution that works for everyone we need to be more open to discuss these things without attacking eachothers character. For example I'm not an 'enlightened centrist'. Just because I don't share your exact view doesn't mean that I'm a redpilled Rogan listener. We probably have a lot more in common than you're thinking.

ANYWAY really was not trying to add more fuel to the fire,
I realise I'm now contributing to the exact thing I was complaining about in the first place. Just wanted to clarify that all I'm advocating for is people being able to have discussions and disagreements without it getting into shit slinging territory. If you want to discuss further without contributing to this shitty thread feel free to PM me.

Back to lurking for real this time.

So you’ve been lurking slap for 10 years, made an acc 5 years ago, and only ever posted twice in that whole time, both in this thread. Like no other thread or aspect of skating or part or tragedy got you involved, but this tipped you over the edge to actually contribute. That’s wild. Seriously, do you skate?
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: JM on March 18, 2024, 09:16:22 AM
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I've been lurking on this great forum for 10+ years, and this is the first time a thread has been such a car crash that I've ever even thought about posting. This dumb ass culture wars squabbling isn't the reason anyone comes to slap, so let's please not have this site turn into a skateboarding microcosm of the rest of the shitty internet (twitter, reddit)

The biggest issue in American politics and society in 2024 is the binary, black and white thinking employed by the majority of people. A lot of people in posting in this thread (on both sides btw) are without a doubt intelligent people, but with a tendency to oversimplify complicated issues and attack those disagreeing with them without giving proper consideration to what's been said.

FWIW, do I think GH is a fascist? I personally don't think he's targeted a disproportionately high number of black skaters so the answer is no. I believe in equal opportunities clowning. As long as you have valid reasons for your criticisms that don't veer into bad taste I think it's important to make fun of every race, gender, ideology equally. For me personally if GH didn't rip on Robert Neal for failing to land a single trick at a contest while wearing a hot wheels jacket, he wouldn't be doing his job. Also Hasan Piker fucking sucks and if we can't make fun of him because he's 'the only voice we have against fascism' then we're truly all fucked.

Lastly, trans lives matter. Support trans people's rights to be whoever the fuck they want to be OBVIOUSLY. But also we need to listen to women and respect woman's spaces. It's really easy for a bunch of dudes on an Internet forum to say that there's no issue whatsoever with trans integration into woman's sports, but the reality is that it's an extremely complicated issue if you're truly interested in protecting the interests of both groups equally. Trans women absolutely should be able to compete in sports at as high a level as anyone else, but women also need to be listened to without having to worry about being shamed and called a fascist (not talking about that girl from the contest btw she sucks). There needs to be a solution that works for everyone, and for that to happen there needs to be an open dialogue.

Rant over, returning to lurking.
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Hi, literally no one called women fascists in this thread and also, I’m the main person who went hard on this issue and news flash: I’m not a man, so it’s not “a bunch of dudes” saying there’s no issue.

“Women” are not asking for trans women to be removed from their sports en masse, and you should know that. The loudest voices against trans women’s exclusion is cis men. So spare me the enlightened centrist stuff. It’s the equivalent of “I don’t mind gay people just don’t kiss in front of me”-style opinions. This is a solution in search of a problem, brought on by literal fascists as a strategy to mainstream trans exclusion in general. Literally the “what about black on black crime???” of gender politics. I’m assuming based on your language that you’re a man, so if so: sit down.

Also, it’s frustrating as hell for you to come in here, engage in an argument with a multi-paragraph response and then claim you didn’t wanna participate and that you’re done. You just stirred shit back up again when the thread was winding down.
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I didn't come here to spar but I hear what you're saying about it being frustrating for me to post and then dip so will say this.

I Respect your opinion but personally I disagree. I wasn't referring to anyone being called a fascist in this thread, but rather why more women in general don't always feel comfortable voicing their opinions about this particular subject. Like I just shared my opinion in what I feel is a measured, fair way and it's being compared to expressing homophobia and racism. We can disagree without trying to paint eachother as being motivated by hatred. I have absolutely no hatred towards the trans community or any community or group other than (ironically) fascists.

I can't speak to your personal experience or how women feel about this more widely in America as I'm not American. I will say however that in Europe women very much are asking en masse for their sports to be protected and their voices to be heard. I'm talking football (soccer), cycling, athletics etc.

I'm not suggesting for a second that trans athletes should be excluded from high level sports, my point is that to find a solution that works for everyone we need to be more open to discuss these things without attacking eachothers character. For example I'm not an 'enlightened centrist'. Just because I don't share your exact view doesn't mean that I'm a redpilled Rogan listener. We probably have a lot more in common than you're thinking.

ANYWAY really was not trying to add more fuel to the fire,
I realise I'm now contributing to the exact thing I was complaining about in the first place. Just wanted to clarify that all I'm advocating for is people being able to have discussions and disagreements without it getting into shit slinging territory. If you want to discuss further without contributing to this shitty thread feel free to PM me.

Back to lurking for real this time.
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So you’ve been lurking slap for 10 years, made an acc 5 years ago, and only ever posted twice in that whole time, both in this thread. Like no other thread or aspect of skating or part or tragedy got you involved, but this tipped you over the edge to actually contribute. That’s wild. Seriously, do you skate?
No, no… you’re not being gatekeepey enough try again: ask “do you even kickflip, bro?”

That’s a much better way to gauge someone’s worthiness to have opinions.

Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: dill8849 on March 18, 2024, 09:51:53 AM
With enough time, at some point all comedians or critics are either going to offend or upset you. Like with every "shock jock," gifted hater has a few people he really doesn't like and does not hesitate to shit on them for the smallest faults (for example: Tom Knox, Robert Neal, etc.). There are also a few guys he really likes and will give free passes to as well. Having said that, there are some videos he has made that I really enjoyed and others where I thought he was just not funny and perhaps just being an asshole for no reason.
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Post by: sk4terX on March 18, 2024, 03:10:13 PM
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I've been lurking on this great forum for 10+ years, and this is the first time a thread has been such a car crash that I've ever even thought about posting. This dumb ass culture wars squabbling isn't the reason anyone comes to slap, so let's please not have this site turn into a skateboarding microcosm of the rest of the shitty internet (twitter, reddit)

The biggest issue in American politics and society in 2024 is the binary, black and white thinking employed by the majority of people. A lot of people in posting in this thread (on both sides btw) are without a doubt intelligent people, but with a tendency to oversimplify complicated issues and attack those disagreeing with them without giving proper consideration to what's been said.

FWIW, do I think GH is a fascist? I personally don't think he's targeted a disproportionately high number of black skaters so the answer is no. I believe in equal opportunities clowning. As long as you have valid reasons for your criticisms that don't veer into bad taste I think it's important to make fun of every race, gender, ideology equally. For me personally if GH didn't rip on Robert Neal for failing to land a single trick at a contest while wearing a hot wheels jacket, he wouldn't be doing his job. Also Hasan Piker fucking sucks and if we can't make fun of him because he's 'the only voice we have against fascism' then we're truly all fucked.

Lastly, trans lives matter. Support trans people's rights to be whoever the fuck they want to be OBVIOUSLY. But also we need to listen to women and respect woman's spaces. It's really easy for a bunch of dudes on an Internet forum to say that there's no issue whatsoever with trans integration into woman's sports, but the reality is that it's an extremely complicated issue if you're truly interested in protecting the interests of both groups equally. Trans women absolutely should be able to compete in sports at as high a level as anyone else, but women also need to be listened to without having to worry about being shamed and called a fascist (not talking about that girl from the contest btw she sucks). There needs to be a solution that works for everyone, and for that to happen there needs to be an open dialogue.

Rant over, returning to lurking.
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Hi, literally no one called women fascists in this thread and also, I’m the main person who went hard on this issue and news flash: I’m not a man, so it’s not “a bunch of dudes” saying there’s no issue.

“Women” are not asking for trans women to be removed from their sports en masse, and you should know that. The loudest voices against trans women’s exclusion is cis men. So spare me the enlightened centrist stuff. It’s the equivalent of “I don’t mind gay people just don’t kiss in front of me”-style opinions. This is a solution in search of a problem, brought on by literal fascists as a strategy to mainstream trans exclusion in general. Literally the “what about black on black crime???” of gender politics. I’m assuming based on your language that you’re a man, so if so: sit down.

Also, it’s frustrating as hell for you to come in here, engage in an argument with a multi-paragraph response and then claim you didn’t wanna participate and that you’re done. You just stirred shit back up again when the thread was winding down.
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I didn't come here to spar but I hear what you're saying about it being frustrating for me to post and then dip so will say this.

I Respect your opinion but personally I disagree. I wasn't referring to anyone being called a fascist in this thread, but rather why more women in general don't always feel comfortable voicing their opinions about this particular subject. Like I just shared my opinion in what I feel is a measured, fair way and it's being compared to expressing homophobia and racism. We can disagree without trying to paint eachother as being motivated by hatred. I have absolutely no hatred towards the trans community or any community or group other than (ironically) fascists.

I can't speak to your personal experience or how women feel about this more widely in America as I'm not American. I will say however that in Europe women very much are asking en masse for their sports to be protected and their voices to be heard. I'm talking football (soccer), cycling, athletics etc.

I'm not suggesting for a second that trans athletes should be excluded from high level sports, my point is that to find a solution that works for everyone we need to be more open to discuss these things without attacking eachothers character. For example I'm not an 'enlightened centrist'. Just because I don't share your exact view doesn't mean that I'm a redpilled Rogan listener. We probably have a lot more in common than you're thinking.

ANYWAY really was not trying to add more fuel to the fire,
I realise I'm now contributing to the exact thing I was complaining about in the first place. Just wanted to clarify that all I'm advocating for is people being able to have discussions and disagreements without it getting into shit slinging territory. If you want to discuss further without contributing to this shitty thread feel free to PM me.

Back to lurking for real this time.
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So you’ve been lurking slap for 10 years, made an acc 5 years ago, and only ever posted twice in that whole time, both in this thread. Like no other thread or aspect of skating or part or tragedy got you involved, but this tipped you over the edge to actually contribute. That’s wild. Seriously, do you skate?
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No, no… you’re not being gatekeepey enough try again: ask “do you even kickflip, bro?”

That’s a much better way to gauge someone’s worthiness to have opinions.


So...no then
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on March 19, 2024, 02:31:04 AM
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right wing or conservative skaters are so fucking stupid, do they not know that skateboarding has always been engrained in counterculture?
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No more monoculture = no more counterculture.

Welcome to pluralism. No one’s happy, but anyone can skateboard.

I have zero interest in this thread but this a really interesting observation.
Carry on.....
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: roba on March 19, 2024, 04:47:44 AM
Adin Ross

god i hate this dude so fucking much and i've never even seen a stream.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: SATIVA HYBRID on March 19, 2024, 05:34:50 AM
the fact that this thread is 18 pages shows we are all retards who gives a fuck if somebody likes sam hyde/ dislikes hasan piker jesus christ does everything have to align perfectly with your political vision? you realize that conservative or liberal, both sides of this argument sound insanely bitchmade

the internet brain rot is really getting to you guys and if you actually feel some type of way about this you need to do some self reflecting
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: roba on March 19, 2024, 06:04:47 AM
i’m feelin some type of way about adin ross i’m not even gonna lie
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Post by: S. on March 19, 2024, 07:28:36 AM
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right wing or conservative skaters are so fucking stupid, do they not know that skateboarding has always been engrained in counterculture?
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No more monoculture = no more counterculture.

Welcome to pluralism. No one’s happy, but anyone can skateboard.
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I have zero interest in this thread but this a really interesting observation.
Carry on.....
yes its an interesting idea. I disagree, though.

 I'd say as a result of the culture wars the new monoculture culture is really two dominant cultures: liberal and rightwing culture models opposing each other. Since both of them draw much of their energies from this opposition, it is really difficult to create a counterculture, since such an alternative position is always at risk of getting sucked into either corner. Especially when people monetize their work to reach a larger audience they will be tempted to get sucked into one of either.

There are alot of examples of thinkers and entertainers, who used to try to offer an alternative view, but got sucked into the liberal/rightwing dichotomy. People like Michael Malice, Russel Brand and the Red Scare girls all turned rightwing for profit and attention. Others, who had tried to offer a different view, turned liberal: Sam Harris, Marc Maron and others.

I think in the real world you can still live and create counter cultures. Beyond your local reach, it is going to hard, though.

I wish dominant skate culture was more leftist and anarchist, but it's mostly liberal now, because the industry and skate media is mostly liberal. It's OK. I can still build and skate DIY spots and live that culture. Whatever.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: BurgerCop on March 19, 2024, 08:06:02 AM
“The ZOG media machine, the Zionist Occupation Government media machine destroying the family, destroying the building block of America...I can’t help but notice that the primary figures behind all these social justice movements are all Jewish.”

“If there was one race, one bill paying, marriage staying together, raising nice attractive kids, race of people, if there was one job-having race of people that’s going to save humanity, what race would it be? Ladies and gentlemen, it’s the white race!”

“if I ever get a chance to legally beat on women, it’s going down, and it’s going down quickly”


- all Sam Hyde (who also donated 5k to the Daily Stormer's legal defense when they were sued)

GH - Yeah man, he's like a really, really smart guy and at least he's keeping it 100, I dunno why everyone freaks out about me listening to him. I mean, it's not like I agree with EVERYTHING he says.

Is GH racist/fascist/whatever? I dunno, never met him, but probably not.
But that Sam Hyde take is kooky as all fuck no matter how you spin it.

Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: sk4terX on March 19, 2024, 09:06:54 AM
“The ZOG media machine, the Zionist Occupation Government media machine destroying the family, destroying the building block of America...I can’t help but notice that the primary figures behind all these social justice movements are all Jewish.”

“If there was one race, one bill paying, marriage staying together, raising nice attractive kids, race of people, if there was one job-having race of people that’s going to save humanity, what race would it be? Ladies and gentlemen, it’s the white race!”

“if I ever get a chance to legally beat on women, it’s going down, and it’s going down quickly”


- all Sam Hyde (who also donated 5k to the Daily Stormer's legal defense when they were sued)

GH - Yeah man, he's like a really, really smart guy and at least he's keeping it 100, I dunno why everyone freaks out about me listening to him. I mean, it's not like I agree with EVERYTHING he says.

Is GH racist/fascist/whatever? I dunno, never met him, but probably not.
But that Sam Hyde take is kooky as all fuck no matter how you spin it.

Raising attractive kids? Wtf? These dudes can't even help telling on themselves
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: botefdunn on March 19, 2024, 09:26:20 AM
On the subject of culture:

Mainstream culture hasn't changed in the slightest, it's always been and always will be guided by the idea that there is a "right" way to do things that can be established through structural hierarchy. People with the same old right/left politics are not fringe groups, they remain strictly mainstream, no matter how violent or irrational they get, so long as their political lives maintain the fundamental status quo. Playing proud boy on the weekends or driving a prius doesn't cancel out the 40-60h/week thus same person might dedicate to climbing a social ladder of work-related status and money.
Those of you who think subcultures no longer exist, for better or worse, you're simply mainstream.
There was a time when a skateboarder had no choice but to be uncomfortable, because of the lesser social status imposed on non-work related activities such as "play", "hobbies", and "youth culture". Now there is often a choice, because of the coopting of "wellness", "sport", and "entertainment" into contemporary capitalism. Some people choose higher status, and a normal definition of success (business). Some people don't, they choose pleasure, (play). If reading this makes you squirm and feel like I'm a juvenile, thank you.

And I should add, nobody is entirely on one side of the fence, we're all by necessity conforming to the group to some extent, and yet remain individuals. The willingness to embrace and create the idea of individuality is subculture.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: sk4terX on March 19, 2024, 09:33:41 AM
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“The ZOG media machine, the Zionist Occupation Government media machine destroying the family, destroying the building block of America...I can’t help but notice that the primary figures behind all these social justice movements are all Jewish.”

“If there was one race, one bill paying, marriage staying together, raising nice attractive kids, race of people, if there was one job-having race of people that’s going to save humanity, what race would it be? Ladies and gentlemen, it’s the white race!”

“if I ever get a chance to legally beat on women, it’s going down, and it’s going down quickly”


- all Sam Hyde (who also donated 5k to the Daily Stormer's legal defense when they were sued)

GH - Yeah man, he's like a really, really smart guy and at least he's keeping it 100, I dunno why everyone freaks out about me listening to him. I mean, it's not like I agree with EVERYTHING he says.

Is GH racist/fascist/whatever? I dunno, never met him, but probably not.
But that Sam Hyde take is kooky as all fuck no matter how you spin it.
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Raising attractive kids? Wtf? These dudes can't even help telling on themselves
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“at least he's keeping it 100” -Joa Feild.

Yeah keeping it 100% Aryan apparently 
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Abyss1 on March 19, 2024, 09:44:40 AM
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Adin Ross
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god i hate this dude so fucking much and i've never even seen a stream.

What made me stop watching Hasan was on his stream around 2021 said "if black people want to get more recognition on twitch they need to hook up with people like Adin Ross"...i pretty much quit watching twitch streamers after that, they are mostly these kids who just drama bait

I can't stand most political streamers including destiny and vauch (sp?).  I pretty much stick to people like Matt Binder, The Serfs, and Sam Seders show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMMzn5SBp2g
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: SATIVA HYBRID on March 19, 2024, 11:20:47 AM
not defending the wild shit sam hyde says but you guys do realize it's all a bit right? like if you pay attention he really isn't that extreme he just has a dumbass way of trying to irritate people on all sides of the political spectrum (clearly working)
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: SATIVA HYBRID on March 19, 2024, 11:22:27 AM
also it's easy to take 3 quotes out of context and make it seem like someone cosigns them,when in reality you have know way of knowing what sam hyde content he's consuming. maybe he just watched the lamborghini video, that one is funny as fuck
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Can he read on March 19, 2024, 12:04:12 PM
also it's easy to take 3 quotes out of context and make it seem like someone cosigns them,when in reality you have know way of knowing what sam hyde content he's consuming. maybe he just watched the lamborghini video, that one is funny as fuck

There is no context in which those statements can be justified. Fuck outta here
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: zerosugarfruitpunch on March 19, 2024, 12:10:25 PM
the internet brain rot is really getting to you guys and if you actually feel some type of way about this you need to do some self reflecting
but you guys do realize it's all a bit right? (clearly working)
Fr yall got too much time on ur hands to psychoanalyze gifted hater and sam hyde in a skate forum lmao using hot wheels jackets and shock jock humor as reason yall braindead im sorry

(https://i.postimg.cc/8Cw5BW8y/image.png) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: BurgerCop on March 19, 2024, 12:56:59 PM
not defending the wild shit sam hyde says but you guys do realize it's all a bit right? like if you pay attention he really isn't that extreme he just has a dumbass way of trying to irritate people on all sides of the political spectrum (clearly working)

IT'S JUST A JOKE BRO!
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Post by: SATIVA HYBRID on March 19, 2024, 02:28:36 PM
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also it's easy to take 3 quotes out of context and make it seem like someone cosigns them,when in reality you have know way of knowing what sam hyde content he's consuming. maybe he just watched the lamborghini video, that one is funny as fuck
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There is no context in which those statements can be justified. Fuck outta here

funny that your name is "can he read", i explicitly said i am not defending sam hyde. you could say i'm defending gh(?) by introducing the idea that the videos quoted are possibly not the ones he was consuming (sam hyde has hundreds of hours of content on the internet)
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Post by: GAY on March 19, 2024, 07:31:23 PM
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the internet brain rot is really getting to you guys and if you actually feel some type of way about this you need to do some self reflecting
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but you guys do realize it's all a bit right? (clearly working)
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Fr yall got too much time on ur hands to psychoanalyze gifted hater and sam hyde in a skate forum lmao using hot wheels jackets and shock jock humor as reason yall braindead im sorry

(https://i.postimg.cc/8Cw5BW8y/image.png) (https://postimages.org/)

*y’all
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Post by: botefdunn on March 19, 2024, 07:39:58 PM
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too much time on ur hands
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*y’all

haha this guy has nooooo idea how we do up in heah
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: texastoast on March 19, 2024, 07:44:59 PM
hasan is such an insufferable poser. disliking him doesnt mean ur automatically alt-right. you can criticize ppl u share beliefs with. isnt that something u should be doing and be able to
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: daewonsbong on March 19, 2024, 08:05:38 PM
not defending the wild shit sam hyde says but you guys do realize it's all a bit right? like if you pay attention he really isn't that extreme he just has a dumbass way of trying to irritate people on all sides of the political spectrum (clearly working)

In 2017 Sam Hyde donated five thousand dollars to the legal defence of a very prominent stormfront Nazi, 'as a bit'... Joa is quite aware of this stuff from Sam (he does this shit all the time)
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Post by: radcunt on March 19, 2024, 08:14:45 PM
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not defending the wild shit sam hyde says but you guys do realize it's all a bit right? like if you pay attention he really isn't that extreme he just has a dumbass way of trying to irritate people on all sides of the political spectrum (clearly working)
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In 2017 Sam Hyde donated five thousand dollars to the legal defence of a very prominent stormfront Nazi, 'as a bit'... Joa is quite aware of this stuff from Sam (he does this shit all the time)
The cancelling left with their woke mind virus just don't understand the nuance of helping Nazis prosper
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: SATIVA HYBRID on March 19, 2024, 08:24:00 PM
hasan is such an insufferable poser. disliking him doesnt mean ur automatically alt-right. you can criticize ppl u share beliefs with. isnt that something u should be doing and be able to
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Big Skatefase on March 19, 2024, 08:26:28 PM
"it's just a bit bro"

(https://sh1teamcancel.files.wordpress.com/2021/10/samhydeweev.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/92pSGx2.png)
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: SATIVA HYBRID on March 19, 2024, 08:27:38 PM
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not defending the wild shit sam hyde says but you guys do realize it's all a bit right? like if you pay attention he really isn't that extreme he just has a dumbass way of trying to irritate people on all sides of the political spectrum (clearly working)
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In 2017 Sam Hyde donated five thousand dollars to the legal defence of a very prominent stormfront Nazi, 'as a bit'... Joa is quite aware of this stuff from Sam (he does this shit all the time)
once again i am not cosigning anything dude has done, and am also not aware of that along with plenty other things he has said/done as is the case with many other people i'm sure, pretty much the main point i'm getting at here
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Dr Hass on March 20, 2024, 03:40:50 AM
Although I’d love a legit reason to shit on Gifted Hater, Hasan is an absolute moron so not sure who wins here.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: ejazzle on March 20, 2024, 05:39:08 AM
GH about to get another 100+ page thread on slap. Thats gotta be some kind of record.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Síota on March 20, 2024, 05:54:32 AM
GH about to get another 100+ page thread on slap. Thats gotta be some kind of record.
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The 10/10 thread was several hundred pages before was deleted and then there was a few hundred page "where did it go" one. Plus there was heaps off 10/10's head memes/gifs. Furthermore there was a youtube video with proof of 10/10 shit.

Just because I have a few saved (I didn't make any of these) here you go:

(https://i.ibb.co/236TMZq/Jm2NOYt.jpg) (https://ibb.co/236TMZq)

(https://i.ibb.co/rMYfN2r/2hf3onp.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rMYfN2r)

(https://i.ibb.co/cTphL9Q/58376055-10157169739706866-3712467596340101120.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cTphL9Q)
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: BurgerCop on March 20, 2024, 06:41:30 AM
GH about to get another 100+ page thread on slap. Thats gotta be some kind of record.

I see the same maybe 15-20 names in almost every thread but that number increases significantly in any GH centric thread.

It's like Taylor Swift fans, as soon as GH is mentioned the GH signal goes up and all the Gifties come running.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: jakeumms on March 20, 2024, 09:59:33 AM
“Giftie” is now law
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on March 20, 2024, 11:13:29 AM
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The 10/10 thread was several hundred pages before was deleted and then there was a few hundred page "where did it go" one. Plus there was heaps off 10/10's head memes/gifs. Furthermore there was a youtube video with proof of 10/10 shit.

Just because I have a few saved (I didn't make any of these) here you go:

(https://i.ibb.co/236TMZq/Jm2NOYt.jpg)oo (https://ibb.co/236TMZq)

(https://i.ibb.co/rMYfN2r/2hf3onp.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rMYfN2r)

(https://i.ibb.co/cTphL9Q/58376055-10157169739706866-3712467596340101120.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cTphL9Q)

Need the Kader 10/10 forehead drop in gif reposted.

For posterity purposes.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Highonangeldust on March 20, 2024, 12:15:20 PM
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The 10/10 thread was several hundred pages before was deleted and then there was a few hundred page "where did it go" one. Plus there was heaps off 10/10's head memes/gifs. Furthermore there was a youtube video with proof of 10/10 shit.

Just because I have a few saved (I didn't make any of these) here you go:

(https://i.ibb.co/236TMZq/Jm2NOYt.jpg)oo (https://ibb.co/236TMZq)

(https://i.ibb.co/rMYfN2r/2hf3onp.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rMYfN2r)

(https://i.ibb.co/cTphL9Q/58376055-10157169739706866-3712467596340101120.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cTphL9Q)
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Need the Kader 10/10 forehead drop in gif reposted.

For posterity purposes.

(https://i.postimg.cc/W3xBNyyK/IMG-1595.gif) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Yonnycage on March 20, 2024, 12:16:38 PM
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GH about to get another 100+ page thread on slap. Thats gotta be some kind of record.
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The 10/10 thread was several hundred pages before was deleted and then there was a few hundred page "where did it go" one. Plus there was heaps off 10/10's head memes/gifs. Furthermore there was a youtube video with proof of 10/10 shit.

Just because I have a few saved (I didn't make any of these) here you go:

(https://i.ibb.co/236TMZq/Jm2NOYt.jpg)oo (https://ibb.co/236TMZq)

(https://i.ibb.co/rMYfN2r/2hf3onp.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rMYfN2r)

(https://i.ibb.co/cTphL9Q/58376055-10157169739706866-3712467596340101120.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cTphL9Q)
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Need the Kader 10/10 forehead drop in gif reposted.

For posterity purposes.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/W3xBNyyK/IMG-1595.gif) (https://postimages.org/)

Holy fuck
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Banned from the room on March 20, 2024, 12:46:36 PM
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not defending the wild shit sam hyde says but you guys do realize it's all a bit right? like if you pay attention he really isn't that extreme he just has a dumbass way of trying to irritate people on all sides of the political spectrum (clearly working)
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In 2017 Sam Hyde donated five thousand dollars to the legal defence of a very prominent stormfront Nazi, 'as a bit'... Joa is quite aware of this stuff from Sam (he does this shit all the time)

That fuckin sucks. Wtf is wrong with fools.

Storm Front and Sam Hyde can eat the peanuts from my my ass berries.

Joa is on some bullshit. That fuckin sucks. I don't wanna believe it.  It makes zero fuckin sense at all to me why is he inviting these bastards BACK into our skate space?

Mr I got queer friends should have a clear view of the struggle. Especially as a YouTuber.

This is no fuckin good at all. I know fools think nothing of it. Being liberal with the scum adds up eventually.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: JM on March 20, 2024, 02:44:31 PM
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“Giftie” is now law
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If Gutted Hotdog says “Whatup Gifties” on a future show, we’ll know he reads the forums.

Now. Important matter to decide: is “Gifties” a term of endearment? Or slur?
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Giocattoli Inutili on March 20, 2024, 02:57:57 PM
Gafted Hooter and Tyler Mahan Coe (bands suck version) are like twins separated at birth.
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Post by: Dental Dan on March 20, 2024, 02:59:30 PM
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“Giftie” is now law
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If Gutted Hotdog says “Whatup Gifties” on a future show, we’ll know he reads the forums.

Now. Important matter to decide: is “Gifties” a term of endearment? Or slur?
Let's not make it a slur, those people already have enough working against them.
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Post by: Natas_Fauxas on March 20, 2024, 03:33:28 PM
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GH about to get another 100+ page thread on slap. Thats gotta be some kind of record.
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The 10/10 thread was several hundred pages before was deleted and then there was a few hundred page "where did it go" one. Plus there was heaps off 10/10's head memes/gifs. Furthermore there was a youtube video with proof of 10/10 shit.

Just because I have a few saved (I didn't make any of these) here you go:

(https://i.ibb.co/236TMZq/Jm2NOYt.jpg)oo (https://ibb.co/236TMZq)

(https://i.ibb.co/rMYfN2r/2hf3onp.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rMYfN2r)

(https://i.ibb.co/cTphL9Q/58376055-10157169739706866-3712467596340101120.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cTphL9Q)
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Need the Kader 10/10 forehead drop in gif reposted.

For posterity purposes.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/W3xBNyyK/IMG-1595.gif) (https://postimages.org/)

Holy cow thats like a 13 head. Amazing.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: GAY on March 20, 2024, 03:46:05 PM
This thread is the goft that keeps on guvving.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: sk4terX on March 20, 2024, 03:51:46 PM
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GH about to get another 100+ page thread on slap. Thats gotta be some kind of record.
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I see the same maybe 15-20 names in almost every thread but that number increases significantly in any GH centric thread.

It's like Taylor Swift fans, as soon as GH is mentioned the GH signal goes up and all the Gifties come running.
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“Giftie” is now law
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: GardenSkater77 on March 20, 2024, 04:01:04 PM
Can someone stick Joa’s head on this album cover?

(https://fiu-original.b-cdn.net/fontsinuse.com/use-images/29/29388/29388.jpeg?filename=Various-Strength-Thru-Oi-L5032556123020.JPG)
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: IUTSM on March 20, 2024, 04:48:16 PM
Can someone stick Joa’s head on this album cover?

(https://fiu-original.b-cdn.net/fontsinuse.com/use-images/29/29388/29388.jpeg?filename=Various-Strength-Thru-Oi-L5032556123020.JPG)

I think this one would be better

(https://i.ibb.co/Y2X576G/IMG-4483.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Y2X576G)
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Post by: JANUS on March 20, 2024, 05:15:47 PM
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GH about to get another 100+ page thread on slap. Thats gotta be some kind of record.
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The 10/10 thread was several hundred pages before was deleted and then there was a few hundred page "where did it go" one. Plus there was heaps off 10/10's head memes/gifs. Furthermore there was a youtube video with proof of 10/10 shit.

Just because I have a few saved (I didn't make any of these) here you go:

(https://i.ibb.co/236TMZq/Jm2NOYt.jpg)oo (https://ibb.co/236TMZq)

(https://i.ibb.co/rMYfN2r/2hf3onp.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rMYfN2r)

(https://i.ibb.co/cTphL9Q/58376055-10157169739706866-3712467596340101120.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cTphL9Q)
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Need the Kader 10/10 forehead drop in gif reposted.

For posterity purposes.
[close]

(https://i.postimg.cc/W3xBNyyK/IMG-1595.gif) (https://postimages.org/)

Ahhhh, memories.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: radcunt on March 20, 2024, 05:48:35 PM
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GH about to get another 100+ page thread on slap. Thats gotta be some kind of record.
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The 10/10 thread was several hundred pages before was deleted and then there was a few hundred page "where did it go" one. Plus there was heaps off 10/10's head memes/gifs. Furthermore there was a youtube video with proof of 10/10 shit.

Just because I have a few saved (I didn't make any of these) here you go:

(https://i.ibb.co/236TMZq/Jm2NOYt.jpg) (https://ibb.co/236TMZq)

(https://i.ibb.co/rMYfN2r/2hf3onp.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rMYfN2r)

(https://i.ibb.co/cTphL9Q/58376055-10157169739706866-3712467596340101120.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cTphL9Q)
Golden Era slap.  Miss that thread.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Bumba on March 20, 2024, 06:05:57 PM
Did anyone see his latest video? He made the POC sit on the ledge and didn't let them skate while him and his white friends used the whole park for the day. Absolutely disgusting behaviour.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Dad Board on March 20, 2024, 06:12:38 PM
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“Giftie” is now law
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If Gutted Hotdog says “Whatup Gifties” on a future show, we’ll know he reads the forums.

Now. Important matter to decide: is “Gifties” a term of endearment? Or slur?

He for sure does. I’ve seen a few of his streams where he scrolls around and reads comments.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: 2fakie on March 21, 2024, 05:00:27 AM
brother leaked his slap account on stream once lmao he's def lurking this thread
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: linty on March 21, 2024, 06:06:33 AM
Did anyone see his latest video? He made the POC sit on the ledge and didn't let them skate while him and his white friends used the whole park for the day. Absolutely disgusting behaviour.
(https://media.tenor.com/FOL3V2bPqP0AAAAM/bait-thats-bait.gif)
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Síota on March 21, 2024, 07:12:37 AM
Can someone stick Joa’s head on this album cover?

(https://fiu-original.b-cdn.net/fontsinuse.com/use-images/29/29388/29388.jpeg?filename=Various-Strength-Thru-Oi-L5032556123020.JPG)

(https://i.ibb.co/S3r4LTB/Untitled.jpg) (https://ibb.co/S3r4LTB)
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: JM on March 21, 2024, 07:26:25 AM
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Can someone stick Joa’s head on this album cover?

(https://fiu-original.b-cdn.net/fontsinuse.com/use-images/29/29388/29388.jpeg?filename=Various-Strength-Thru-Oi-L5032556123020.JPG)
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I thought that was Dill

Wtf, it’s not?
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: JM on March 21, 2024, 07:29:53 AM
brother leaked his slap account on stream once lmao he's def lurking this thread
Good. I hope he’s collecting all the alt-names of himself and building a little shrine to write them all out on pieces of paper to burn up in a fire, making frantic arm motions to “set them free on their journey”.

Gooshey Holetag



Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Fartknocker415 on March 21, 2024, 07:53:07 AM
It’s funny the gifted hater detractors actually help make his threads on slap that much more popping.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: JM on March 21, 2024, 07:57:46 AM
It’s funny the gifted hater detractors actually help make his threads on slap that much more popping.
His existence is creating a whole-ass economy.

He’s basically Taylor Swift.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: GardenSkater77 on March 21, 2024, 08:55:58 AM
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Can someone stick Joa’s head on this album cover?

(https://fiu-original.b-cdn.net/fontsinuse.com/use-images/29/29388/29388.jpeg?filename=Various-Strength-Thru-Oi-L5032556123020.JPG)
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(https://i.ibb.co/S3r4LTB/Untitled.jpg) (https://ibb.co/S3r4LTB)

Amazing work sir.

And, now that you guys are pointing it out, this dude on the album cover does kinda look like Dill.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Banned from the room on March 21, 2024, 09:12:55 AM
That guy in the strength tru Oi! poster was the beginning for the GASH movement.
Gay Nazis skinheads do exist.
1/3
It's very common back then. 

I just wanna know WHOS next? Who's gonna put on the mini mustache to farm the fields?

Is DeVille Nunes actually TM for the master race bloarding and dragons are made from baby bones? Nka is supplying them. Soon we'll have a Jeff Dechasere series but where's Jeff?
I hope not. I think DeVille is cool as hell. Those kids are lucky to be woerking there.

Sooo

I looked at Tim pools stuff yesterday. I see why RJ is hanging out there. Confused ass liberals are easy to milk. That cat sux at debating too.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Banned from the room on March 21, 2024, 09:16:22 AM
Robert Neil wins too.

Plastic neck chain and hot wheels leather> Storm Front. It's not even a fuckin battle.

Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Banned from the room on March 21, 2024, 09:17:52 AM
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Amazing work sir.

And, now that you guys are pointing it out, this dude on the album cover does kinda look like Dill.

Needs a bubble saying "I got gay friends!!"
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: versacekid420 on March 21, 2024, 11:27:05 AM
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Can someone stick Joa’s head on this album cover?

(https://fiu-original.b-cdn.net/fontsinuse.com/use-images/29/29388/29388.jpeg?filename=Various-Strength-Thru-Oi-L5032556123020.JPG)
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I thought that was Dill
me too. then i thought it was Ian Mckaye. AND THEN i thought it was johnny sins
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on March 21, 2024, 12:51:50 PM
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I thought that was Dill
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me too. then i thought it was Ian Mckaye. AND THEN i thought it was johnny sins

Then you began to jerk off.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: kook1234 on March 21, 2024, 12:58:08 PM
kinda hoping joa starts a magazine which eventually goes under but the forums remain up so all the gifties can gather there
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: skate_or_dingus on March 21, 2024, 04:12:57 PM
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I thought that was Dill
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me too. then i thought it was Ian Mckaye. AND THEN i thought it was johnny sins

 Turns out it was the boardslide nunchuk guy all along.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Urtripping on March 21, 2024, 05:51:16 PM
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I thought that was Dill
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me too. then i thought it was Ian Mckaye. AND THEN i thought it was johnny sins
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Then you began to jerk off.

Lmfaooooo
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: texastoast on March 21, 2024, 10:07:47 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/YjaY4Ad.jpeg)
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: shouldn't on March 21, 2024, 10:22:52 PM
i hate threads like this because i feel like i could read 2 pages and still not know what the fuck is going on, can anyone explain? robert neal, omar hassan? what’s going on here?
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: apport on March 21, 2024, 10:23:48 PM
do you guys like joeyy
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: roba on March 21, 2024, 11:37:24 PM
do you guys like joeyy

there’s this one song of his that starts and after like 10 seconds the beat cuts off and it starts again shit’s so funny

edit: found it

http://youtu.be/0YaO0ZC-B-8
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: JM on March 22, 2024, 04:54:31 AM
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do you guys like joeyy
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there’s this one song of his that starts and after like 10 seconds the beat cuts off and it starts again shit’s so funny

edit: found it

http://youtu.be/0YaO0ZC-B-8

That’s a fine epilepsy test you have right there.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: JANUS on March 22, 2024, 05:06:53 AM
i hate threads like this because i feel like i could read 2 pages and still not know what the fuck is going on, can anyone explain? robert neal, omar hassan? what’s going on here?

That’s what I mistakenly thought, too. I also thought Sam Hyde was this dude for a second:
(https://anchorsskateshop.com/cdn/shop/files/hitz-battle-4.jpg?v=1692107617&width=1445)
At first it made me feel old and out of touch, but given how annoyed people seem with these fools, I’m cool with being an ancient artifact.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Rick Trapasso on March 22, 2024, 05:19:00 AM
I hope this thread gets to a hundred pages, that will surely confirm Joa as a racist.

It's so nice to see everyone engaging with this completely reasonable and fair accusation.

What a healthy, important, and intelligent conversation.

...................


Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Ignatius J Reilly on March 22, 2024, 05:24:55 AM
I hope this thread gets to a hundred pages, that will surely confirm Joa as a racist.

It's so nice to see everyone engaging with this completely reasonable and fair accusation.

What a healthy, important, and intelligent conversation.

...................
someone should put a bug in joa’s ear and have him comment about sole tech, that’ll lead to even more great discourse i’m sure
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: BurgerCop on March 22, 2024, 05:27:59 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/lZMV6uC.png)
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on March 22, 2024, 05:48:11 AM
I hope this thread gets to a hundred pages, that will surely confirm Joa as a racist.

It's so nice to see everyone engaging with this completely reasonable and fair accusation.

What a healthy, important, and intelligent conversation.

...................

I’m gonna engage your mom in a healthy important intelligent conversation.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Rick Trapasso on March 22, 2024, 06:34:10 AM
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I hope this thread gets to a hundred pages, that will surely confirm Joa as a racist.

It's so nice to see everyone engaging with this completely reasonable and fair accusation.

What a healthy, important, and intelligent conversation.

...................
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I’m gonna engage your mom in a healthy important intelligent conversation.

You won't, poosey.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: JM on March 22, 2024, 07:21:23 AM
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I hope this thread gets to a hundred pages, that will surely confirm Joa as a racist.

It's so nice to see everyone engaging with this completely reasonable and fair accusation.

What a healthy, important, and intelligent conversation.

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someone should put a bug in joa’s ear and have him comment about sole tech, that’ll lead to even more great discourse i’m sure
Emerica specifically, and why they should or should not die.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: radcunt on March 22, 2024, 07:56:43 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/lZMV6uC.png)


The sole should be a Last Resort, and should have AB after. that bands name

Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Síota on March 22, 2024, 09:40:44 AM
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do you guys like joeyy
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there’s this one song of his that starts and after like 10 seconds the beat cuts off and it starts again shit’s so funny

edit: found it

http://youtu.be/0YaO0ZC-B-8
[close]

That’s a fine epilepsy test you have right there.

I'm gonna tell my kids this is Fat Bill.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Síota on March 22, 2024, 09:47:41 AM
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The sole should be a Last Resort, and should have AB after. that bands name
Someone should change the names to YouTube, Sci-Fi Fantasy, Twich, Patron etc
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Abyss1 on March 22, 2024, 10:15:23 AM
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The sole should be a Last Resort, and should have AB after. that bands name
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Someone should change the names to YouTube, Sci-Fi Fantasy, Twich, Patron etc

fucking A...I lol'd. 
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Banned from the room on March 22, 2024, 10:26:28 AM
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Can someone stick Joa’s head on this album cover?

(https://fiu-original.b-cdn.net/fontsinuse.com/use-images/29/29388/29388.jpeg?filename=Various-Strength-Thru-Oi-L5032556123020.JPG)
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(https://i.ibb.co/S3r4LTB/Untitled.jpg) (https://ibb.co/S3r4LTB)
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Amazing work sir.

And, now that you guys are pointing it out, this dude on the album cover does kinda look like Dill.
[close]

Needs a bubble saying "I got gay friends!!"
[close]

“But my friends are gay!”
“Sam Hyde keeps it 100”
“Batman”
“Tell that N!$$@& tyshawn to do it again”
“Jerry Hsu”
“I have 2.6 black friends”


GH should public apologize and get down with the winning team. He's probably gonna regrets that stuff later on. Something bad happens from dropping n bombs on a brother to his friends and team mates it's gonna be a life wrecker.

He probably thinks he's cooler than the people who learned that lesson in the past. Internal feelings and pre conceived notions about everything will change with age.

I never drop the bomb. Not even when pretending to be in my favorite movies with friends. Cuz I want that shit to die. I want every human to live eye to eye. None of this high horse shit for me thanks.

I definitely feel above that kid rn. I'd like to grab him up off the ground. I'd violently dust him of give him a kiss and point him at the battlefield.
Get your fuckin shit together Private Pile and get with the ONLY program. I strap a land mine to his clearly unbattle-worthy chest and throw his ass at modern Hitler.

Everyone would love Joa forever if he blew up Jared kkKushner and klan before they can build Atlantic City East on the still warm corpses of the dead Gazans.

That's what right vs left skatebloarding looks like to me. Israel vs The Palestinians. It's literally the same tribe of people killing each other over the past. A past that wasn't well documented at all.

We need to become one tribe world wide. Don't worry there's gonna be tons of stuff to hate on.
That race shit will be erased tho. We all equal at birth and death. Life should be the same no?
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Banned from the room on March 22, 2024, 10:31:23 AM
I hear all the time. Why is this your entire identity? You're not going to kill racism.

My answer is always Bullshit. I'm gonna fuckin kill it. I been killing it. I've been hear the testimonial by people who listened to experiences my strengths and my hopes on this.

I have made changes in the chemical make up of society. You can do it too
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on March 22, 2024, 11:36:00 AM
I hear all the time. Why is this your entire identity? You're not going to kill racism.

My answer is always Bullshit. I'm gonna fuckin kill it. I been killing it. I've been hear the testimonial by people who listened to experiences my strengths and my hopes on this.

I have made changes in the chemical make up of society. You can do it too

I appreciate that you’re putting in efforts to put equality and positivity out there, regardless of the outcome or impact.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Highonangeldust on March 22, 2024, 02:43:20 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/kgjzmy3V/IMG-0684.png) (https://postimages.org/)
Sooooo dumb….
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Banned from the room on March 22, 2024, 03:06:41 PM
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I hear all the time. Why is this your entire identity? You're not going to kill racism.

My answer is always Bullshit. I'm gonna fuckin kill it. I been killing it. I've been hear the testimonial by people who listened to experiences my strengths and my hopes on this.

I have made changes in the chemical make up of society. You can do it too
[close]

I appreciate that you’re putting in efforts to put equality and positivity out there, regardless of the outcome or impact.

Is there another choice. You can't break it if you don't get people to think again
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: lurkluke on March 22, 2024, 03:15:27 PM
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Can someone stick Joa’s head on this album cover?

(https://fiu-original.b-cdn.net/fontsinuse.com/use-images/29/29388/29388.jpeg?filename=Various-Strength-Thru-Oi-L5032556123020.JPG)
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(https://i.ibb.co/S3r4LTB/Untitled.jpg) (https://ibb.co/S3r4LTB)
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Amazing work sir.

And, now that you guys are pointing it out, this dude on the album cover does kinda look like Dill.
[close]

Needs a bubble saying "I got gay friends!!"
[close]

“But my friends are gay!”
“Sam Hyde keeps it 100”
“Batman”
“Tell that N!$$@& tyshawn to do it again”
“Jerry Hsu”
“I have 2.6 black friends”
[close]


GH should public apologize and get down with the winning team. He's probably gonna regrets that stuff later on. Something bad happens from dropping n bombs on a brother to his friends and team mates it's gonna be a life wrecker.

He probably thinks he's cooler than the people who learned that lesson in the past. Internal feelings and pre conceived notions about everything will change with age.

I never drop the bomb. Not even when pretending to be in my favorite movies with friends. Cuz I want that shit to die. I want every human to live eye to eye. None of this high horse shit for me thanks.

I definitely feel above that kid rn. I'd like to grab him up off the ground. I'd violently dust him of give him a kiss and point him at the battlefield.
Get your fuckin shit together Private Pile and get with the ONLY program. I strap a land mine to his clearly unbattle-worthy chest and throw his ass at modern Hitler.

Everyone would love Joa forever if he blew up Jared kkKushner and klan before they can build Atlantic City East on the still warm corpses of the dead Gazans.

That's what right vs left skatebloarding looks like to me. Israel vs The Palestinians. It's literally the same tribe of people killing each other over the past. A past that wasn't well documented at all.

We need to become one tribe world wide. Don't worry there's gonna be tons of stuff to hate on.
That race shit will be erased tho. We all equal at birth and death. Life should be the same no?

I don't think the N-bomb was an actual quote (unless I'm wildly mistaken).
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: jakeumms on March 22, 2024, 03:20:24 PM
There have been no N-bombs
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on March 22, 2024, 04:09:05 PM
I don’t like Joa, but he’s certainly not dumb enough to pull that move, and I don’t think he’s racist at all.

I just think he backs or atleast entertains some people with questionable idealogies.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Banned from the room on March 22, 2024, 04:14:49 PM
Totally fuck batman. Sum of a bitch
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: apport on March 22, 2024, 04:16:42 PM
There have been no N-bombs
legalize n-bombs
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: SkatingOnNeptune on March 22, 2024, 05:31:34 PM
Why imply somebody said the n word when they haven't? Crazy.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: zerosugarfruitpunch on March 22, 2024, 06:51:16 PM
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there’s this one song of his that starts and after like 10 seconds the beat cuts off and it starts again shit’s so funny

edit: found it

http://youtu.be/0YaO0ZC-B-8
#1team Fuck2
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: apport on March 22, 2024, 08:34:47 PM
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do you guys like joeyy
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there’s this one song of his that starts and after like 10 seconds the beat cuts off and it starts again shit’s so funny

edit: found it

http://youtu.be/0YaO0ZC-B-8
[close]
#1team Fuck2
if you’re two then i guess i’m a fascist
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: zerosugarfruitpunch on March 22, 2024, 11:06:39 PM
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there’s this one song of his that starts and after like 10 seconds the beat cuts off and it starts again shit’s so funny

edit: found it

http://youtu.be/0YaO0ZC-B-8
[close]
#1team Fuck2
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if you’re two then i guess i’m a fascist
(https://i.postimg.cc/mZcXzbkq/image.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: SATIVA HYBRID on March 23, 2024, 09:50:42 AM
how the hell did we go from "watches videos" to "says n word" come on
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Democratic Republic Of Mongo on March 23, 2024, 11:45:38 AM
Why imply somebody said the n word when they haven't? Crazy.

People get off on this stuff. Don’t kink shame.
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Post by: Bryanferry on March 24, 2024, 12:27:52 PM
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(https://fiu-original.b-cdn.net/fontsinuse.com/use-images/29/29388/29388.jpeg?filename=Various-Strength-Thru-Oi-L5032556123020.JPG)
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(https://i.ibb.co/S3r4LTB/Untitled.jpg) (https://ibb.co/S3r4LTB)
[close]

Amazing work sir.

And, now that you guys are pointing it out, this dude on the album cover does kinda look like Dill.
[close]

Needs a bubble saying "I got gay friends!!"
[close]

“But my friends are gay!”
“Sam Hyde keeps it 100”
“Batman”
“Tell that N!$$@& tyshawn to do it again”
“Jerry Hsu”
“I have 2.6 black friends”
[close]


GH should public apologize and get down with the winning team. He's probably gonna regrets that stuff later on. Something bad happens from dropping n bombs on a brother to his friends and team mates it's gonna be a life wrecker.

He probably thinks he's cooler than the people who learned that lesson in the past. Internal feelings and pre conceived notions about everything will change with age.

I never drop the bomb. Not even when pretending to be in my favorite movies with friends. Cuz I want that shit to die. I want every human to live eye to eye. None of this high horse shit for me thanks.

I definitely feel above that kid rn. I'd like to grab him up off the ground. I'd violently dust him of give him a kiss and point him at the battlefield.
Get your fuckin shit together Private Pile and get with the ONLY program. I strap a land mine to his clearly unbattle-worthy chest and throw his ass at modern Hitler.

Everyone would love Joa forever if he blew up Jared kkKushner and klan before they can build Atlantic City East on the still warm corpses of the dead Gazans.

That's what right vs left skatebloarding looks like to me. Israel vs The Palestinians. It's literally the same tribe of people killing each other over the past. A past that wasn't well documented at all.

We need to become one tribe world wide. Don't worry there's gonna be tons of stuff to hate on.
That race shit will be erased tho. We all equal at birth and death. Life should be the same no?

In no way ever has gifted hater been a racist. Your a fucking person that would lose a fight to a mirror
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: ok boomer on March 24, 2024, 02:25:35 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/kgjzmy3V/IMG-0684.png) (https://postimages.org/)
Sooooo dumb….

Tube and destroy.. lmao
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: MinirampHater on April 09, 2024, 01:34:06 AM
you guys are tapped
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Post by: Frank Sobotka on April 09, 2024, 01:37:38 AM
you guys are tapped

This thread was finally on it's arse until you, a guy with 1 post, decided to resurrect it. I'm going to assume something nefarious is going on here.

Time to lock this shitshow, I reckon.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: JANUS on April 09, 2024, 04:14:53 AM
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And let me at least get a fucking “haha” on this before the thread dies, got damn I need validation

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Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: ejazzle on April 09, 2024, 04:42:41 AM
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And let me at least get a fucking “haha” on this before the thread dies, got damn I need validation
No. You were a complete jackass with the baseless hate you were spewing in this thread.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Shtonk on April 09, 2024, 04:47:17 AM
people coming at me for thinking the TVV thing should at least have an explanation for why it gets deleted but this is 21 pages deep and still going...

Gonna leave my explanation here for why I deleted my round: I read the second thread's OP's explanation that the TVV account sent him some worrying DMs. Even without verification I won't take the chance  that the account really is TVV himself and he's in a situation where such threads seriously endanger his health. I do think there should be a disclaimer or mods-updated thread tho where stuff like this gets notified so we don't even get to three threads.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: fernando the skater on April 09, 2024, 05:03:32 AM
Since this thread was started Joa has made a video with an actual black person, and gone after those business bro douches (where he made a non-subtle reference to this very thread), so I'd say it's been a success.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Rick Trapasso on April 09, 2024, 05:38:42 AM

Gifted hater clearly cannot take it like he can dish it out hence, this meme.


He's making fun of people's outfits, business decisions, and skateboarding.

Then being called a racist and threatened with physical injury in return.

Not exact a fair dish to take ratio lol.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: SatanicPanic on April 09, 2024, 06:48:59 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/kgjzmy3V/IMG-0684.png) (https://postimages.org/)
Sooooo dumb….
This is amazing, have a gnar
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: yghartsyrt on April 09, 2024, 07:02:19 AM
I was going half mongoloid in this thread

That being said

Shut it down

Seriously, fuck off for white knighting the entire thread and then come around with an ableist slur in the end.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: DillsDarts on April 09, 2024, 07:45:26 AM
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I was going half mongoloid in this thread

That being said

Shut it down
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Seriously, fuck off for white knighting the entire thread and then come around with an ableist slur in the end.

That’s not ableist… the Mongloid armies actually conquered most of the world at one point… The Mongloids were renowned for their horse archery too! So I’d say it’s the opposite! Maybe he picked up quite a few skills on his read!
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Dad Board on April 09, 2024, 07:56:52 AM
Ban cliche10k, Ban Meg, 9/11 was an inside job, focus this thread, peace
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: augustmoon on April 09, 2024, 07:58:29 AM
The way yall just make shit up about this dude is pretty embarrassing.  He must be doing something right to ruffle all of these feathers.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: meg on April 09, 2024, 08:22:28 AM
Ban cliche10k, Ban Meg, 9/11 was an inside job, focus this thread, peace
One, you're like a dream come true
Two, just wanna be with you
Three, girl, it's plain to see
That you're the only one for me, and
Four, repeat steps one through three
Five, make you fall in love with me
If ever I believe my work is done
Then I start back at one
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Banned from the room on April 09, 2024, 01:03:34 PM
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Can someone stick Joa’s head on this album cover?

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Amazing work sir.

And, now that you guys are pointing it out, this dude on the album cover does kinda look like Dill.
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Needs a bubble saying "I got gay friends!!"
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“But my friends are gay!”
“Sam Hyde keeps it 100”
“Batman”
“Tell that N!$$@& tyshawn to do it again”
“Jerry Hsu”
“I have 2.6 black friends”
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GH should public apologize and get down with the winning team. He's probably gonna regrets that stuff later on. Something bad happens from dropping n bombs on a brother to his friends and team mates it's gonna be a life wrecker.

He probably thinks he's cooler than the people who learned that lesson in the past. Internal feelings and pre conceived notions about everything will change with age.

I never drop the bomb. Not even when pretending to be in my favorite movies with friends. Cuz I want that shit to die. I want every human to live eye to eye. None of this high horse shit for me thanks.

I definitely feel above that kid rn. I'd like to grab him up off the ground. I'd violently dust him of give him a kiss and point him at the battlefield.
Get your fuckin shit together Private Pile and get with the ONLY program. I strap a land mine to his clearly unbattle-worthy chest and throw his ass at modern Hitler.

Everyone would love Joa forever if he blew up Jared kkKushner and klan before they can build Atlantic City East on the still warm corpses of the dead Gazans.

That's what right vs left skatebloarding looks like to me. Israel vs The Palestinians. It's literally the same tribe of people killing each other over the past. A past that wasn't well documented at all.

We need to become one tribe world wide. Don't worry there's gonna be tons of stuff to hate on.
That race shit will be erased tho. We all equal at birth and death. Life should be the same no?
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In no way ever has gifted hater been a racist. Your a fucking person that would lose a fight to a mirror

I don't do violence ever. Especially against other skaters. I just make fun of them till they cool.

Besides I thought he agreed not to hamper the upward movement of THE CREW and that there's plenty of other stuffs to talk about.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: yghartsyrt on April 09, 2024, 01:22:30 PM
@Lightskinhardhitta – seriously dude, where do you draw the line? Racism bad – dogwhistling ableism is ok?
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: bb1995k on April 09, 2024, 01:45:55 PM
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i'll start this by sayin i think GH is actually too politically illiterate to be an ideological fascist/racist and that lots of this behavior stems from him just being sheltered, though his reach and influence in skateboarding is powerful enough to end careers

you have numerous black skaters voicing that GH unjustly targets their culture.  it's enough voices that this can not be ruled a big nothing

coincidentally, Gifted Hater is selling political merch targetting the largest anti-fascist voice, Hasan, a massive proponent of rights for the homeless, black, gay, trans, etc. communities

(this convo was overtakin the insta thread so ima continue discussion here)

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this shit blew up so ima be real i was mostly concerned with GH doing 3min vid teachin kids champagne-socialist rhetoric (fascistic talking point)
you sound like a bitch bro get the fuck over it skateboarding aint suppose to be nice
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: GrayCellGreen on April 09, 2024, 02:39:35 PM
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i'll start this by sayin i think GH is actually too politically illiterate to be an ideological fascist/racist and that lots of this behavior stems from him just being sheltered, though his reach and influence in skateboarding is powerful enough to end careers

you have numerous black skaters voicing that GH unjustly targets their culture.  it's enough voices that this can not be ruled a big nothing

coincidentally, Gifted Hater is selling political merch targetting the largest anti-fascist voice, Hasan, a massive proponent of rights for the homeless, black, gay, trans, etc. communities

(this convo was overtakin the insta thread so ima continue discussion here)

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this shit blew up so ima be real i was mostly concerned with GH doing 3min vid teachin kids champagne-socialist rhetoric (fascistic talking point)
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you sound like a bitch bro get the fuck over it skateboarding aint suppose to be nice

LOL, who was mean to you?
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: DillsDarts on April 09, 2024, 03:03:59 PM
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@Lightskinhardhitta – seriously dude, where do you draw the line? Racism bad – dogwhistling ableism is ok?
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Dog whistle? Ableism? You got sand in your boy cooder homie
You’re using the internet, idiot. People use phrases and words you won’t like, and you’ll magically still live… quit eating sandy cooder sandwiches
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Yonnycage on April 09, 2024, 03:43:35 PM
Add this dumbass to the "needs to be banned" list
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Ninj2 on April 09, 2024, 03:49:06 PM
Add this dumbass to the "needs to be banned" list

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1plPyJdXKIY

Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Shtonk on April 09, 2024, 04:06:38 PM
If I was a Tim Pool goonie and wanted to sow some seeds of discord in the "wokeified elite", this thread and the newbie account trolls in it is what I'd do.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Yonnycage on April 09, 2024, 04:15:16 PM
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Add this dumbass to the "needs to be banned" list
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You a bigger kook than me, let’s both focus our accounts

Nah and sure, you first tho
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: jakeumms on April 09, 2024, 04:43:09 PM
If I was a Tim Pool goonie and wanted to sow some seeds of discord in the "wokeified elite", this thread and the newbie account trolls in it is what I'd do.
Seems like you may have answered your own question as to why the mods have been so strict lately. Wasn't that the thesis of overdoing it?
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: lurkluke on April 09, 2024, 05:45:12 PM
If I was a Tim Pool goonie and wanted to sow some seeds of discord in the "wokeified elite", this thread and the newbie account trolls in it is what I'd do.

Yeah the alt right chuds will try poison any well, in their little crusade to never have sex again.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on April 09, 2024, 06:07:14 PM
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If I was a Tim Pool goonie and wanted to sow some seeds of discord in the "wokeified elite", this thread and the newbie account trolls in it is what I'd do.
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Yeah the alt right chuds will try poison any well, in their little crusade to never have sex again.
Little crusade? Incelibacy is my whole life, buddy.
I'll NEVER get it wet (the whole concept is gross, frankly) and my vote must reflect this forever
  - A Stupid, Red Shirted Ass
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: kookdusoleil on April 09, 2024, 08:20:04 PM
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And let me at least get a fucking “haha” on this before the thread dies, got damn I need validation

“Please clap”
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Yonnycage on April 09, 2024, 08:24:31 PM
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And let me at least get a fucking “haha” on this before the thread dies, got damn I need validation
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“Please clap”
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Shtonk on April 09, 2024, 11:49:06 PM
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If I was a Tim Pool goonie and wanted to sow some seeds of discord in the "wokeified elite", this thread and the newbie account trolls in it is what I'd do.
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Seems like you may have answered your own question as to why the mods have been so strict lately. Wasn't that the thesis of overdoing it?

The gist was more they weren't being strict enough on this type of shit in here but soon as it came to a pro skater / respected brand it was all village militia but I've taken that down because turned out OPs self-deleted the posts in question. I do wish it was a bit stricter round here when it comes to slander and discrimination.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: CrappybsflipDownthe5stair on April 10, 2024, 08:07:36 AM
https://youtu.be/kBZDzas9iMQ

Can close the thread now ;p

Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Banned from the room on April 10, 2024, 08:09:49 AM
Should I go to the boonies and win the drop in money?

10g first t no fuckin problem.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Dad Board on April 10, 2024, 08:27:51 AM
Should I go to the boonies and win the drop in money?

10g first t no fuckin problem.

Please report back on the smell. I’m betting it’s a mix of stale graham crackers & church kitchen with a tinge of unwiped buttholes
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Banned from the room on April 10, 2024, 08:33:30 AM
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Should I go to the boonies and win the drop in money?

10g first t no fuckin problem.
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Please report back on the smell. I’m betting it’s a mix of stale graham crackers & church kitchen with a tinge of unwiped buttholes

If I went Id film the entire thing. I don't enough bread to get to Ohio rn. I'll definitely be filming if I do. I'm talking to my ma see if I can borrow the Prius.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Dad Board on April 10, 2024, 08:51:02 AM
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Should I go to the boonies and win the drop in money?

10g first t no fuckin problem.
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Please report back on the smell. I’m betting it’s a mix of stale graham crackers & church kitchen with a tinge of unwiped buttholes
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If I went Id film the entire thing. I don't enough bread to get to Ohio rn. I'll definitely be filming if I do. I'm talking to my ma see if I can borrow the Prius.

Make sure to badmouth the Prius when you show up so they don’t sniff you out. Say something about your Ford getting a gasket replaced and how Joe Biden probably drives a Prius to his gynecologist or something. Doesn’t need to be clever, in fact the more clever it is the more they’ll suspect you of being woke. Whatever you do don’t give snacks to Richie Jackson, he may ask you for some ritz crackers or something but it’s a trick and you’ll never be rid of him. Godspeed 🫡
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: sk4terX on April 14, 2024, 09:15:35 AM
@Lightskinhardhitta – seriously dude, where do you draw the line? Racism bad – dogwhistling ableism is ok?

god the shut the fuck up you disingenuous twat waffle
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: SATIVA HYBRID on April 14, 2024, 09:18:54 AM
https://youtu.be/kBZDzas9iMQ?si=aIF2sjTh6kku4l-y

Can close the thread now ;p

joa of racism confirmed
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Audrey II on April 14, 2024, 10:21:49 AM
been gone for a while, but came across this kids youtube recently and was curious about slaps general opinion on him.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Banned from the room on April 14, 2024, 10:39:01 AM
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Should I go to the boonies and win the drop in money?

10g first t no fuckin problem.
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Please report back on the smell. I’m betting it’s a mix of stale graham crackers & church kitchen with a tinge of unwiped buttholes
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If I went Id film the entire thing. I don't enough bread to get to Ohio rn. I'll definitely be filming if I do. I'm talking to my ma see if I can borrow the Prius.
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Make sure to badmouth the Prius when you show up so they don’t sniff you out. Say something about your Ford getting a gasket replaced and how Joe Biden probably drives a Prius to his gynecologist or something. Doesn’t need to be clever, in fact the more clever it is the more they’ll suspect you of being woke. Whatever you do don’t give snacks to Richie Jackson, he may ask you for some ritz crackers or something but it’s a trick and you’ll never be rid of him. Godspeed 🫡

I'm unavailable unfortunately. The band is really picking up gigs. 10gs would be nice but I'm sure itd be a glorious slap on the skate lite and of guitar for a few months. I can't do that to the homies. My cat too.
Cat #1
Band #2
Everything else is after that this year.

I do plan on someday tracking down Mr Jackson someday It's inevitable. I'm not the type to really chase paper.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: yghartsyrt on April 14, 2024, 10:41:22 AM
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god the shut the fuck up you disingenuous twat waffle

Need a hug, buddy? Where does this aggression come from? It’s not healthy. Go outside and skate.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: Banned from the room on April 14, 2024, 10:59:49 AM
Also I gotta stick up for the Prius. My Mom got a 2014? Prius C and it's incredible.
I can fit my 24" 3 piece kit with a 19" floor tom and a 14" rack. (Dave Grhol shit)
My two guitars and my half stack in it. Still getting 40mpG easily.

The other Prius suck. But that one like base base based model is a diamond in the rough if you're a bander/skater.

You can spot this model by the smaller hatchback window and that it doesn't have a big stupid plastic bridge between the front seats and l little bent nail shifter. Fuck that car. They added all that b******* so would be less efficient and less spacious.

If taught like 7 people to drive with this car too. It's hella safe. I've also discovered that it's faster in the local down hill run than my VW Jetta with the sick ass S1 coilover kit.

If I got the right spring tension I feel like I could give a Porsche a run for it's money on that little run. I know how it sounds but try it.

If could buy a car rn I'd go Honda Civic wagon tho. B181 maybe an Australian Billet block :o. Australia is the land of horse power. Rebuild LSD tranny. Diy is a must. Never trust no one with your civic.
I don't got one anymore because the owner of my old garage let fool strip it for an 8 ball

Mugan style diy body kit cuz I got a garage and I'm really good at body work and paint. I just HATE working on cars.

(https://i.ibb.co/HrwVtWg/IMG-20240414-135710.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HrwVtWg)

This is the platform I desire
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: sle_epy on April 14, 2024, 01:01:34 PM
I'm a minority who has had their fair share of hardships and I still think he's funny. I highly doubt Jerry etc would fuck with him if he was anything like OP made him out to be. He's edgy, whatever. You have to be a little edgy to be funny.

Give him some credit he puts his face on it instead of the lames here who are actually fascists / racists / bigots and troll in threads about trans skaters. GH is also self aware enough to have pumped the breaks in the past when his joking had more negative than intended results.
Title: Re: is Gofted Hater becoming a fascistic/racist force in skateboarding?
Post by: JM on April 14, 2024, 01:53:28 PM
been gone for a while, but came across this kids youtube recently and was curious about slaps general opinion on him.
There’s no way in hell I represent any popular opinions, but for me I like the dude (we’re talking Xiii, right?)

He’s a good skater and his skating with friends clips are fun to watch cause they remind of when I was skating with my friends in our small town.