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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: Insole on January 20, 2026, 07:56:10 PM
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https://www.instagram.com/p/DTwd7a3kWIQ/
Competing with the den?
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ah shit beat me by like 15 seconds lol I'll delete my thread.
Seems like a chill app though. Hopefully they're able to keep copywritten songs on parts that are muted on youtube
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Ave on defense confirmed
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oh man, right out of the gate i can't actually try the app or see what's up without paying... :(
i hate to be negative because it's cool when people try to make something new, but i'm wondering what needs the creators were anticipating this filling
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Ave on Chat GPT confirmed.
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Dumb grifter bullshit that's destined to fail. He fucked up if he put real money into this.
Some of these old pros really need to skate off into the sunset. There has never been such a high concentration of bullshit peddling in all my years following skating.
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Seems like spotify for skateboarding? The skaters will maybe get half a cent every time someone watches their part
would be cool if it worked, but it would take millions of streams
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Roger Bagley project? Told audience about it last year ?
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My question for ave is how much is really going to companies/skaters? I really can’t see the profits being that substantial and when it’s divided up assumingly three ways (company, skater, ave), seems like an insignificant amount of money. That part seems like a bullshit pr move to me. But i’m ready to be proven wrong
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I bet this site is gonna have hella clips on it.
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Griftape
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I bet this site is gonna have hella clips on it.
Lmao
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I actually think it looks good, clicking on a vid then selecting which part you want and you can see team mates like similar artists on Spotify. I just think unless it has exclusivity on big upcoming videos or something I can’t see people paying for something you can get for free with the den for a couple of cool features. I also can’t see any skaters making much money from this other than AVE himself.
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Hope he didn't invest much in this...
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Copyrights ? Rider incentives ?
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I actually think it looks good, clicking on a vid then selecting which part you want and you can see team mates like similar artists on Spotify. I just think unless it has exclusivity on big upcoming videos or something I can’t see people paying for something you can get for free with the den for a couple of cool features. I also can’t see any skaters making much money from this other than AVE himself.
Yeah... so what is AVE's cut? and why should I pay for a subscription when I already have a YouTube Premium account.
Hope he didn't invest much in this...
For real
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What happens if i watch Mindfield but i fast forward the upriver boys? Does Berra get anything? What about all the vert parts in old vids? What if I watch The Storm but only Chris Dobstaff - will Josh Kaspar see any revenue?
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There is no way anyone is paying for this.
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Cook of the year
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Cook of the year
Bet AVE makes a mean spag bol
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Sorry AVE, but making a career selling skateboard videos is long gone. TikTok and Insta fried this generation’s attention span. Erik Bragg tried this with ETN 10 years ago and now we’re even more inundated with skate media. There’s no way enough skaters will pay $10 a month for him to make a profit. It miiiiight work if Thrasher had an app that hosted videos with a decent media player and digital mags. Even then, nobody is paying $120 a year for something they get for free.
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people love to say "such and such did whatever first" but that's competition. If the den was good, then Ave's service will just be dead on arrival. They gotta work on marketing. I forgot the den even existed
I would love a streaming service to acquire the rights to all the old 2000s-era contest series and TV programs. ASL, Captain and Casey, whatever contest it was that Chris Gentry used to dominate, which aired on Fox Sports. Or even just an all action sports streaming app.
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people love to say "such and such did whatever first" but that's competition. If the den was so good, then Ave's service would be dead on arrival.
I would love a streaming service to acquire the rights to all the old 2000s-era contest series and TV programs. ASL, Captain and Casey, whatever contest it was that Chris Gentry used to dominate, which aired on Fox Sports.
Nothing points to the contrary
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people love to say "such and such did whatever first" but that's competition. If the den was so good, then Ave's service would be dead on arrival.
I would love a streaming service to acquire the rights to all the old 2000s-era contest series and TV programs. ASL, Captain and Casey, whatever contest it was that Chris Gentry used to dominate, which aired on Fox Sports.
Nothing points to the contrary
you're right, I was just editing the pharsing.
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Are the skaters and companies sharing the streaming profits with the recording artists from the videos?
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Seems like spotify for skateboarding? The skaters will maybe get half a cent every time someone watches their part
would be cool if it worked, but it would take millions of streams
This is also the first thing I thought of when I read the details…but if anyone who follows music and musicians will know you don’t get paid shit from streams.
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oh brother
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Do you guys actually think Ave masterminded this? He rather believes in this and is getting a check or someone’s promised him ownership and after it falls on its face he’ll say he didn’t know what happened…..
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Do you guys actually think Ave masterminded this? He rather believes in this and is getting a check or someone’s promised him ownership and after it falls on its face he’ll say he didn’t know what happened…..
No I also didn’t think it was his idea, sounds like something someone into AI would shovel not Ave
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Do you guys actually think Ave masterminded this? He rather believes in this and is getting a check or someone’s promised him ownership and after it falls on its face he’ll say he didn’t know what happened…..
No I also didn’t think it was his idea, sounds like something someone into AI would shovel not Ave
he's schilling for it in the comments so what difference does it make?
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Do you guys actually think Ave masterminded this? He rather believes in this and is getting a check or someone’s promised him ownership and after it falls on its face he’ll say he didn’t know what happened…..
No I also didn’t think it was his idea, sounds like something someone into AI would shovel not Ave
he's schilling for it in the comments so what difference does it make?
I don’t think Ave is a tech bro type but will take tech bro money I guess I’m also assuming Ave doesn’t understand the streaming model and subscriptions
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lmao
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Do you guys actually think Ave masterminded this? He rather believes in this and is getting a check or someone’s promised him ownership and after it falls on its face he’ll say he didn’t know what happened…..
No I also didn’t think it was his idea, sounds like something someone into AI would shovel not Ave
he's schilling for it in the comments so what difference does it make?
I don’t think Ave is a tech bro type but will take tech bro money I guess I’m also assuming Ave doesn’t understand the streaming model and subscriptions
That doesn't matter, he's still doing it and trying to reap the benefits off of some bullshit AI model. Whether or not he understands the tech behind it doesn't matter, he's voluntarily doing it to try and make a fuckin' buck off of other people's work. It's lame and smarmy, and the fact that it's AVE doesn't change that. If this was P-Rod or Mikey Taylor everyone here would rightfully be calling them opportunistic dickheads.
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Do you guys actually think Ave masterminded this? He rather believes in this and is getting a check or someone’s promised him ownership and after it falls on its face he’ll say he didn’t know what happened…..
No I also didn’t think it was his idea, sounds like something someone into AI would shovel not Ave
he's schilling for it in the comments so what difference does it make?
I don’t think Ave is a tech bro type but will take tech bro money I guess I’m also assuming Ave doesn’t understand the streaming model and subscriptions
That doesn't matter, he's still doing it and trying to reap the benefits off of some bullshit AI model. Whether or not he understands the tech behind it doesn't matter, he's voluntarily doing it to try and make a fuckin' buck. It's lame and smarmy, and the fact that it's AVE doesn't change that. If this was P-Rod or Mikey Taylor everyone here would rightfully be calling them opportunistic dickheads.
You’re right I guess I haven’t seen Ave blow up his credibility before now so there’s some benefit of the doubt
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Aren't they both low key rip offs of skatefolio.io? I also feel like the majority of skate parts/videos just get put up on youtube for free these days.
I don't see the market being there for this. Who tf cares about x-ray trick identification. I just can't see there really being a big enough market for this and I'm sure whoever's behind this didn't do any market research. The website/app isn't even finished yet - the about page is like a business consultant contact form but you... upload your resume for it?
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Maybe some rich entity paid him a fat stack to promote this, like those crypto scam things. Hopefully that’s the case and AVE gets his bag and doesn’t have to think about it after the post dies down.
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I really don't like the insinuation hes doing this to help skateboarders get paid better
A skate part is basically already a long commercial, if hes trying play this angle hes already in perfect position to advocate for better pay without sinner tier business ventures
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Maybe some rich entity paid him a fat stack to promote this, like those crypto scam things. Hopefully that’s the case and AVE gets his bag and doesn’t have to think about it after the post dies down.
Fuck that, he should have to think about this. This whole "get the bag" mentality is why we have crypto scamming assholes to begin with. Ave isn't a petulant child being taken advantage of, he's a middle aged man who is more than capable of being discerning with their business decisions.
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Does this app have a vert part button?
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Skateboarding does not need a streaming service lol.Most shit worth watching is on YouTube. If a company is actually selling a video in 2025 they'll get more of cut if you just buy the video. This is just grift albeit relatively harmless. Even the old videos, how you gonna give money to a bunch of companies who no longer exist? How do you make sure the money gets to the people who made the original video if that company was bought out by a different company? Take Fallen and Ride To Sky, for example, who gets the payout? Some dude in South America?
This is dumb. And dill already license to print money. Legacy tarnishing maneuver. Whatever the fuck that bullshit he talked about the river he's swimming in the shit now. Kook.
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The new Google . FA HOCKEY struggling and retirement plan test. Erik Ellington was wise with Tech Deck….
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If there’s one thing skateboarders and people in general love, it’s paying extra money and jumping through hoops to do something they can easily do already for free.
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Not a big deal, I don't see how this could ruin your day lol
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Hopefully this gets all the free content we’ve been enjoying off YouTube!
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AVE really lost his fuck you attitude
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ngl I prefer watching clips of unknown and flow cats on social media.
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AVE really lost his fuck you attitude
When the "fuck you" attitude turns into a "pay me" attitude
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no one is asking for this. if he was serious about a more equitable compensation model for skate videos, he would be doing collective organizing in the industry to bargain with Thrasher to improve the financial arrangement they offer when they host a company's video on their Youtube channel. is there any payout whatsoever to brands based on the views their videos receive on the channel? similarly, there's definitely some improvements to be made in the way skaters are paid by companies for the videos they're featured in too.
here's a good question for AVE: the vast majority of FA and Hockey's videos go up on the "FA WORLD ENTERTAINMENT" Youtube channel, and FA is presumably getting paid by Youtube for the streams those videos receive. are the skaters featured in those videos receiving residuals from those Youtube stream payouts? something tells me the answer is no. AVE could already be moving the needle on this and making change in the existing model in the industry, but it seems like he's more interested in the extremely obvious grift that's going on here than actually making a difference.
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The amount of people in Ave’s comments throwing out fire emojis and jumping head first into backing this thing (and blindly defending it) is another reminder that so so many people are just flat out incapable of thinking critically and will eat whatever they’re fed. It’s fuckin depressing.
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Damn, this sucks for sure. Wack name too haha
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we're mad at AVE now :(
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why can't AVE do this?
at least he's not another corporate conglomerate trying to act cool ;D
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we're mad at AVE now :(
There should be a memorial thread for all the pros we once admired who tarnished their legacy by some means of depravity.
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Lame.
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no one is asking for this. if he was serious about a more equitable compensation model for skate videos, he would be doing collective organizing in the industry to bargain with Thrasher to improve the financial arrangement they offer when they host a company's video on their Youtube channel. is there any payout whatsoever to brands based on the views their videos receive on the channel? similarly, there's definitely some improvements to be made in the way skaters are paid by companies for the videos they're featured in too.
here's a good question for AVE: the vast majority of FA and Hockey's videos go up on the "FA WORLD ENTERTAINMENT" Youtube channel, and FA is presumably getting paid by Youtube for the streams those videos receive. are the skaters featured in those videos receiving residuals from those Youtube stream payouts? something tells me the answer is no. AVE could already be moving the needle on this and making change in the existing model in the industry, but it seems like he's more interested in the extremely obvious grift that's going on here than actually making a difference.
this is it
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ave invented the internet
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didnt know Peter Sidlauskas was behind the den
as most of you have mentioned, why pay when we can watch on youtube? What is the value proposition here?
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There should be a memorial thread for all the pros we once admired who tarnished their legacy by some means of depravity.
What exactly is depraved about it? I just thought it was a pretty shit idea
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Even if this blew up big time, surely it’s just a recipe for copyright lawsuits?
Are they gonna be super transparent about all views?
What about if you don’t ride for that company anymore?
What about guest tricks, shared parts, friends sections, how do they divvy that up?
Is it time based? Would Marc get paid the same Olson for a watch of fully flared? Would either of them get anything with no affiliation to the brand that doesn’t even the same owners?
What kind of contracts did the riders sign with the brands who made the videos and what was the mention of video copyright in them?
It seems like it could be messy. If someone sussed this out 15 years ago i’d think they were clever. Now? I don’t think you can put the genie back in the bottle.
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Hell yea. Signed up.
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we're mad at AVE now :(
We’re mad at AIVE….
Can’t wait to see what DAIll has for us….could be an app where you do less and you become cooler….. I need it.
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Ave on Chat GPT confirmed.
This isn't just a video-sharing platform, it's skaters expanding what media can be. It's skate culture taking its vibrant history of pushing boundaries to experiment with what could be, not just what already is. Not only is it incredible, it's a testament to how AVE is a skater that gives back to his community, breaks ground with new technology, and sees into the future.
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Hell yea. Signed up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roRQ2mNwMMQ
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Ave on Chat GPT confirmed.
Did you just chat gpt an ad for AVE.
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Ave on Chat GPT confirmed.
Someone saw how Tidal took over the music industry and thought let’s replicate model for stuff people aren’t paying for
Name is buns. I can kinda get the “tape” reasoning, but it’s not catchy
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Did you just chat gpt an ad for AVE.
just mocking the dumb caption on ave's post as it's very obvious gpt slop
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I paid for a 1-month membership, AMA
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I get the idea of aggregation for skate media but the den wanting me to pay for something I already get for free on YouTube kinda made it’s value prop non existent
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i mean , we are able to watch every movie and show for free since torrent was invented (and listen to every music with p2p), but people still pay for streaming services. Some people pay for all of them.
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This is why I have a DVD, VHS, and ISO collection.
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i mean , we are able to watch every movie and show for free since torrent was invented (and listen to every music with p2p), but people still pay for streaming services. Some people pay for all of them.
True but thats also stuff we had to pay for before anyway, we’re just doing it in a different bulk package. Skate media might be the only form of media that went from paid to free without have to steal it. Which makes these services seem so dumb- people ain’t gonna start paying for something thrasher has been giving them for free for a decade . Berrics tried that already and well look where they are now.
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i mean , we are able to watch every movie and show for free since torrent was invented (and listen to every music with p2p), but people still pay for streaming services. Some people pay for all of them.
True but thats also stuff we had to pay for before anyway, we’re just doing it in a different bulk package. Skate media might be the only form of media that went from paid to free without have to steal it. Which makes these services seem so dumb- people ain’t gonna start paying for something thrasher has been giving them for free for a decade . Berrics tried that already and well look where they are now.
Unless there are exclusive Griptape parts that get released. Man that sounds awesome.
It’ll be like the Jay B Sides Tidal concert that I recently rewatched on YouTube.
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I don't think anyone will pay for digital skate vids. I'd buy physical copies of full lengths, and 411vm(if they revived it).
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And why come the teams out there just don’t do Patreon? Subscribers get exclusive parts burned to DVD, interviews, a tee, and so on
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No surprise the dude that had a Terminator graphic is using AI.
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I paid for a 1-month membership, AMA
Why you do that to yourself?
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now is the winter of our discontent...
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First the abomination of the tennis ball shoe. Now this. It’s going downhill rapidly.
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now is the AI winter of our discontent...
What’s with all the Shakespeare on slap recently, colour me intrigued
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now is the AI winter of our discontent...
Field trip to Hamnet. “Neither a bondo-er or waxer be”. That’s for a different threat
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A cool idea.
If we didn't already have YouTube for free
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I signed up. It’s just clips of shirtless dudes eating a six pack of hard boiled eggs.
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I signed up. It’s just clips of shirtless dudes eating a six pack of hard boiled eggs.
This might be the most effective advertising this thing’s had so far
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Heard about this idea being pitched a couple months back by some industry guys but under the context that it was for independent filmers and contributing filmers to get paid for people watching their videos. The consensus was that it was a bad idea and would’ve just allowed companies to keep getting away with not paying people properly. This is somehow even worse lol. I could’ve sworn the Den was involved in the other concept tho? Anyone else hear about that?
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I would have signed up for a griptape subscription for a sheet a month from Ave if he called his new griptape company, streaming service app, but not the other way around.
Maybe send subscribers a sheet of griptape a month with the streaming service?
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Shit is wack, but I’m not surprised. Seems nobody has noticed that Ave follows Trump, RFK Jr. and the US Border Patrol among others on Instagram. His interests are questionable, to say the least.
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Shit is wack, but I’m not surprised. Seems nobody has noticed that Ave follows Trump, RFK Jr. and the US Border Patrol among others on Instagram. His interests are questionable, to say the least.
How does his political opinion have anything to do with making a terrible app service
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A cool idea.
If we didn't already have YouTube for free
this is why its confusing
if you look at every aspect of youtube and then put all of the other platforms next to it to compare, the only difference is "skater owned?" Is that really enough for skateboarders to stop using youtube? When really skate filmers should probably start their own channels if they arent on retainer
but then you're using your friends to have a half assed channel
idk
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Shit is wack, but I’m not surprised. Seems nobody has noticed that Ave follows Trump, RFK Jr. and the US Border Patrol among others on Instagram. His interests are questionable, to say the least.
Welp, decided to go though AVE’s follows as a result of this post. Yeah… no one who isn’t a right wing kook is following the stuff that he is. My tolerance for this shit is at an absolute zero at this point. People are being murdered and kidnapped in the streets by a fascist militia. Paging fuck that guy…
Oh yeah and this app is fucking stupid and clearly vibe coded with ai. Congrats on destroying all the good will people had toward you Ave
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Shit is wack, but I’m not surprised. Seems nobody has noticed that Ave follows Trump, RFK Jr. and the US Border Patrol among others on Instagram. His interests are questionable, to say the least.
Noooooooooo
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Am afraid of americans sang David Bowie
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Shit is wack, but I’m not surprised. Seems nobody has noticed that Ave follows Trump, RFK Jr. and the US Border Patrol among others on Instagram. His interests are questionable, to say the least.
In my opinion, anyone supporting the current US administration displays a fundamental lack of morality along with the inability to make well-informed decisions.
Dude’s voting against the interests of the kids FA loves to fetishize (and every non-billionaire!).
I guess what I’m saying is I don’t trust him and he won’t get my money, which sucks, he is in my top ten.
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Shit is wack, but I’m not surprised. Seems nobody has noticed that Ave follows Trump, RFK Jr. and the US Border Patrol among others on Instagram. His interests are questionable, to say the least.
Cool, time to throw out my AVE shoes. I have a bit too many anwyay
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AVE sucks and he definitely got talked into investing in someones vibecoded streaming app once they pivoted to skate videos so now he has to defend it to save face
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Shit is wack, but I’m not surprised. Seems nobody has noticed that Ave follows Trump, RFK Jr. and the US Border Patrol among others on Instagram. His interests are questionable, to say the least.
Terrible person = Terrible app
Yeah, sorry but similar to what the poster said above I have zero tolerance to anyone following or supporting the horrible shit going on right now. Also pretty sure AVE lives in Huntington Beach which is MAGA central, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Fuck this
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In light of this news, I retract my previous comment. No, I would not buy anything from Ave. Never again.
He really should have named his brand Hokey. What a maroon.
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Just because someone follows a social media account doesn't mean they back those people. I hate Fox News but watch it once in a while to see for myself what shit and hate they spew. Just giving him the benefit of the doubt.
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Just because someone follows a social media account doesn't mean they back those people. I hate Fox News but watch it once in a while to see for myself what shit and hate they spew. Just giving him the benefit of the doubt.
I can hate-watch Fox News, but I don't follow them...
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it appears there are currently about 12 videos available (Girl/Choc, Vinyl, and Kevin Perez releases) and the only way to watch is by installing the iOS app via TestFlight, as it's not in the Public App Store yet.
Trying to watch any of the 12 videos on the site from a web browser results in 404 errors.
Questionable tech and political ideals aside, it's way too soon to allow people to pay money for the service. The current functionality warrants free sign-ups and use until everything works. You could at least stress-test and build some momentum that way.
Asking for paid subscribers without a working website is nuts.
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The new Google . FA HOCKEY struggling and retirement plan test. Erik Ellington was wise with Tech Deck….
Care to elaborate? What does Ellington have to do with Tech Deck? Is he some kind of investor? I'm a big fan of the brand so I'm genuinely curious.
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Just because someone follows a social media account doesn't mean they back those people. I hate Fox News but watch it once in a while to see for myself what shit and hate they spew. Just giving him the benefit of the doubt.
You could argue that normally but buddy is following two separate RFK accounts.
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The new Google . FA HOCKEY struggling and retirement plan test. Erik Ellington was wise with Tech Deck….
Care to elaborate? What does Ellington have to do with Tech Deck? Is he some kind of investor? I'm a big fan of the brand so I'm genuinely curious.
I don't remember where I saw something about it, but I believe he invented hand boards or at least pitched the idea?
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it appears there are currently about 12 videos available (Girl/Choc, Vinyl, and Kevin Perez releases) and the only way to watch is by installing the iOS app via TestFlight, as it's not in the Public App Store yet.
Trying to watch any of the 12 videos on the site from a web browser results in 404 errors.
Questionable tech and political ideals aside, it's way too soon to allow people to pay money for the service. The current functionality warrants free sign-ups and use until everything works. You could at least stress-test and build some momentum that way.
Asking for paid subscribers without a working website is nuts.
yeah that does sound nuts...If the videos were 1080p upscaled somehow through AI...maybe I'd check them out but paying to watch something in 480p or the older 4:3 aspect ratios
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This is crazy, like
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Skateboard Lookalikes
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White nationalist 5 fingerheaded MFers…
Edit: cosplaying MFers…
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Lets just say I can see AVE rocking an Iron Cross Independent shirt very soon
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Surprised it took this for ppl to notice he's a JJ biter
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Lets just say I can see AVE rocking an Iron Cross Independent shirt very soon
So last month
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Also…
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Shit is wack, but I’m not surprised. Seems nobody has noticed that Ave follows Trump, RFK Jr. and the US Border Patrol among others on Instagram. His interests are questionable, to say the least.
Noooooooooo
i remember reading an interview where he said he still liked ted nugent's music, even though he hated his politics. but that's neither here nor there
wonder what dill thinks
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ooooh boy i just scrolled past tucker carlson on his following list. that one genuinely hurts
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ooooh boy i just scrolled past tucker carlson on his following list. that one genuinely hurts
started scrollin thru his follows after seeing this and first two people i saw after the mutuals were RFK and Bill Maher. eventually saw he followed Trumpito and stopped after that cause i didnt need to see anything else
part of me isnt surprised by who he follows or his *potential* political mindset because he's a big harley/biker gang dude and also has strong ties to 1010 (aside from being homies he used a pic of him for an old FA graphic circa 2015)
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I always get weird vibes when I see skaters post themselves doing BJJ at the Gracie gym with their giant Blue Lives Matter flags and other paraphernalia on the walls. Gyms are the breeding grounds for the dumbest political people
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I changed my mind, fuck yourself AVE youre a bitch
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ooooh boy i just scrolled past tucker carlson on his following list. that one genuinely hurts
started scrollin thru his follows after seeing this and first two people i saw after the mutuals were RFK and Bill Maher. eventually saw he followed Trumpito and stopped after that cause i didnt need to see anything else
part of me isnt surprised by who he follows or his *potential* political mindset because he's a big harley/biker gang dude and also has strong ties to 1010 (aside from being homies he used a pic of him for an old FA graphic circa 2015)
yeah i guess i'm not totally surprised since he's always had this california motorcycle guy image but i figured hanging out with super woke dill for so many years would of had an effect? maybe not
i'm sure he's hit his head a bunch of times also and that's definitely sent a few people i know down the right wing pipeline. sure it only gets worse with age
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The new Google . FA HOCKEY struggling and retirement plan test. Erik Ellington was wise with Tech Deck….
Care to elaborate? What does Ellington have to do with Tech Deck? Is he some kind of investor? I'm a big fan of the brand so I'm genuinely curious.
I don't remember where I saw something about it, but I believe he invented hand boards or at least pitched the idea?
He invented the hand board
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No surprise the dude that had a Terminator graphic is using AI.
and that graphic was a bite of Henry Sanchez' of all people terminator graphic..
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ooooh boy i just scrolled past tucker carlson on his following list. that one genuinely hurts
started scrollin thru his follows after seeing this and first two people i saw after the mutuals were RFK and Bill Maher. eventually saw he followed Trumpito and stopped after that cause i didnt need to see anything else
part of me isnt surprised by who he follows or his *potential* political mindset because he's a big harley/biker gang dude and also has strong ties to 1010 (aside from being homies he used a pic of him for an old FA graphic circa 2015)
yeah i guess i'm not totally surprised since he's always had this california motorcycle guy image but i figured hanging out with super woke dill for so many years would of had an effect? maybe not
i'm sure he's hit his head a bunch of times also and that's definitely sent a few people i know down the right wing pipeline. sure it only gets worse with age
Nah go watch old parts he was trying to be fresh. Doesn’t matter though, the white hip hop guy to conservative douchebag pipeline is also a thing.
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oh shit how could i forget about the cornrows
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Goddamnit, AVE. Not you too.
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Shit is wack, but I’m not surprised. Seems nobody has noticed that Ave follows Trump, RFK Jr. and the US Border Patrol among others on Instagram. His interests are questionable, to say the least.
Terrible person = Terrible app
Yeah, sorry but similar to what the poster said above I have zero tolerance to anyone following or supporting the horrible shit going on right now. Also pretty sure AVE lives in Huntington Beach which is MAGA central, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Fuck this
A tremendous amount of terrible people introduced worthwhile apps, nothing in this stands on examination. We get it, he follows right wingers on Instagram. Nobody is condoning that, however his political beliefs are an irrelevant subject matter brought up just because "fuck that guy"
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Shit is wack, but I’m not surprised. Seems nobody has noticed that Ave follows Trump, RFK Jr. and the US Border Patrol among others on Instagram. His interests are questionable, to say the least.
Terrible person = Terrible app
Yeah, sorry but similar to what the poster said above I have zero tolerance to anyone following or supporting the horrible shit going on right now. Also pretty sure AVE lives in Huntington Beach which is MAGA central, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Fuck this
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Shit is wack, but I’m not surprised. Seems nobody has noticed that Ave follows Trump, RFK Jr. and the US Border Patrol among others on Instagram. His interests are questionable, to say the least.
Terrible person = Terrible app
Yeah, sorry but similar to what the poster said above I have zero tolerance to anyone following or supporting the horrible shit going on right now. Also pretty sure AVE lives in Huntington Beach which is MAGA central, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Fuck this
Someone being easily led down the conservative rabbit hole by having weak ethics/morals and the inability to think critically would also reflect on their business decisions (Ave).
Just because some billionaire tech developer is outwardly
right wing doesn’t mean they truly believe in the principles that conservative media outlets shit out to the public. They’re cunning opportunists, and currently the right wing has the power.
When they can exploit left wing politics they do, (E.G. target, Starbucks, etc.) when it was profitable to do so.
Ave is the equivalent of a right wing small business owner who thinks he can get accepted into the club that would never have him. Therefore judging his business moves based on his politics is totally valid in this case. Shit politics, shit app.
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Shit is wack, but I’m not surprised. Seems nobody has noticed that Ave follows Trump, RFK Jr. and the US Border Patrol among others on Instagram. His interests are questionable, to say the least.
Noooooooooo
i remember reading an interview where he said he still liked ted nugent's music, even though he hated his politics. but that's neither here nor there
wonder what dill thinks
Following those accounts doesn't necessarily mean you back them, but that is questionable. He was certainly wrong on this one, lol.
https://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/passing-the-torch-ave/ (https://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/passing-the-torch-ave/)
Did you vote for President? I did. Yes. I flew home early from a Boys of Summer trip to do my civic duty.
What do you think of the President we got? I think he’s an asshole and I think the other fucking bitch that was running sucks too, so I didn’t vote for either of them. So it’s a weird time. I mean, I came up in the ’80s when Reagan was president. Maybe some cool shit will happen because everybody’s fucking angry and pissed off, you know? Shit happens.
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I always get weird vibes when I see skaters post themselves doing BJJ at the Gracie gym with their giant Blue Lives Matter flags and other paraphernalia on the walls. Gyms are the breeding grounds for the dumbest political people
ANY excuse to not hit the gym smdh
If the app fails(it will) then all this goes away, and we all just carry on. AVE hangs with the Black Fly bros when he rides, maybe a lil of their nonsense rubbed off
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Anyone got footy or a pic of AVE from his cornrow era? I remember I had a Transworld poster where he was doing a noseblunt on those benches in Barcelona with full on baggy t and cornrows.
I feel like all AVE cornrow footage has been strategically removed from the internet. VF Corp conspiracy.
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Shit is wack, but I’m not surprised. Seems nobody has noticed that Ave follows Trump, RFK Jr. and the US Border Patrol among others on Instagram. His interests are questionable, to say the least.
Noooooooooo
i remember reading an interview where he said he still liked ted nugent's music, even though he hated his politics. but that's neither here nor there
wonder what dill thinks
Probably started thinking about it but then got distracted by his usual thinking about himself.
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I can guarantee you guys have already spent more time thinking about aves political stance than he has in his entire life
Will you film yourself burning your ave pro models à la maga kooks and bud light ?
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You guys are arguing about nothing
“Ave follows trump”
Wow some of you guys are truly fucking losers
Look at AVE
Now look at yourself
Hahaha
Feel me
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Some insanely wack shit all round (Ave’s app and this thread) America’s fucked
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Would be cool if skaters got some money for video parts from yesteryear
You guys are arguing about nothing
“Ave follows trump”
Wow some of you guys are truly fucking losers
Look at AVE
Now look at yourself
Hahaha
Feel me
My apologies on going off topic, but how'd you manage to get -1 on your trade count?
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Feel me
No
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Anyone got footy or a pic of AVE from his cornrow era? I remember I had a Transworld poster where he was doing a noseblunt on those benches in Barcelona with full on baggy t and cornrows.
I feel like all AVE cornrow footage has been strategically removed from the internet. VF Corp conspiracy.
I mean his Ted Nugent era was not much better.
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Feel me
Nobody feels you. Read the room. Focus
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You guys are arguing about nothing
“Ave follows trump”
Wow some of you guys are truly fucking losers
Look at AVE
Now look at yourself
Hahaha
Feel me
Some dude named bluedohdohs said I was kooky and gave negative trade count
Not even sure what that mean
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Nobody feels you. Read the room. Focus
Getting big mad huh sandwich boy
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You guys are arguing about nothing
“Ave follows trump”
Wow some of you guys are truly fucking losers
Look at AVE
Now look at yourself
Hahaha
Feel me
Some dude named bluedohdohs said I was kooky and gave negative trade count
Not even sure what that mean
AHAHAHAHAHAH… Oops, what I meant to say was, damn, that sucks.
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Anyone got footy or a pic of AVE from his cornrow era? I remember I had a Transworld poster where he was doing a noseblunt on those benches in Barcelona with full on baggy t and cornrows.
I feel like all AVE cornrow footage has been strategically removed from the internet. VF Corp conspiracy.
I mean his Ted Nugent era was not much better.
Can’t say I align politically but as a 50 year old man….i like gravel bike Ave….
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Shit is wack, but I’m not surprised. Seems nobody has noticed that Ave follows Trump, RFK Jr. and the US Border Patrol among others on Instagram. His interests are questionable, to say the least.
Noooooooooo
i remember reading an interview where he said he still liked ted nugent's music, even though he hated his politics. but that's neither here nor there
wonder what dill thinks
https://www.instagram.com/p/C-anTYwSq4z/?igsh=MTR0Z3FhZXJ2cTFnOA==
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I signed up. It’s just clips of shirtless dudes eating a six pack of hard boiled eggs.
Yeah I’m now fully onboard with this.
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Anyone got footy or a pic of AVE from his cornrow era? I remember I had a Transworld poster where he was doing a noseblunt on those benches in Barcelona with full on baggy t and cornrows.
I feel like all AVE cornrow footage has been strategically removed from the internet. VF Corp conspiracy.
I mean his Ted Nugent era was not much better.
"he's a wango tango loving man" - tim o'connor (i might be butchering this quote)
(https://i.ibb.co/67f7D7kr/bonus1.jpg)
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Playing the devil's advocate here but would it be possible that meta is showing him "following" just some bullshit the platform wants to push? I have no horse in this race and it is definitely possible that AVE is a right-wing kook but nothing would surprise me in the american social media wasteland.
Hard pass on the platform though.
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Playing the devil's advocate here but would it be possible that meta is showing him "following" just some bullshit the platform wants to push? I have no horse in this race and it is definitely possible that AVE is a right-wing kook but nothing would surprise me in the american social media wasteland.
Hard pass on the platform though.
Are you suggesting that instagram followed those accounts for AVE without informing him?
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Playing the devil's advocate here but would it be possible that meta is showing him "following" just some bullshit the platform wants to push? I have no horse in this race and it is definitely possible that AVE is a right-wing kook but nothing would surprise me in the american social media wasteland.
Hard pass on the platform though.
Are you suggesting that instagram followed those accounts for AVE without informing him?
A lot of people were following POTUS or The White House and didn’t unfollow when it flipped to the Trump administration. That can happen unknowingly, but a cursory skim of AVE’s following list shows quite a bit of far right bullshit. He’s following Tucker AND Tucker News Network, that’s not an accident.
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Who gives a fuck what someone believes
You guys are the problem
One more time for the people in the back
Ya’ll broke bitches with no life
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The double-edged sword of social media, you get unprecedented access and information about your childhood heroes, only to find out most of the time that they aren't the person you want them to be...
Don't meet your heroes and all that shit...
There are way to many right-wing personalities and "news"/meme accounts in that Following section to be a coincidence or even more farfetched, accounts that were forced upon the user by Meta...
Funny enough I was chopping it up at the shop yesterday with my guy Andre about this very topic and while it's disappointing (not to mention I'm not a social media person), at least it weeds out the kooks and makes us more informed about who and who not to support...
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Now it all clicks with his years in Russia. Ave on russian MAGA asset confirmed. That martial style of his just screams invade Ukraine
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Who gives a fuck what someone believes
You guys are the problem
One more time for the people in the back
Ya’ll broke bitches with no life
You must be 10yrs old or some shit...who obviously is sheltered and privileged and most likely has never read a history book
why don't you post your bank statement hoecakes
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Why do you can be jealous and be like damn this dude makes money let’s hate on him
Don’t be mad at me cause you can’t skate and come here to let it out
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I made this account to keep it real. This forum is fucking pathetic.
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Why do you can be jealous and be like damn this dude makes money let’s hate on him
Don’t be mad at me cause you can’t skate and come here to let it out
lol what...You need hooked on Phonics your grammar is really shit
again post your bankstatement...I'll post mine if your about that $$$
I made this account to keep it real. This forum is fucking pathetic.
yea youre keeping it real dumb
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Who gives a fuck what someone believes
You guys are the problem
One more time for the people in the back
Ya’ll broke bitches with no life
Does that mean we are downriver or upriver?
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Oh shit made a typo
Classic woke
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Get ready, ready, ready
Stormtroopers comin'
Get ready, ready, ready
Stormtroopers comin'
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQM5-ZBdFpGdnVjDtRv3xPSf2IXk1hhnU-vUa1E3p0epQwiW_KrUDCokmqt&s=10)
‘Eyes without a Face’ AKA the ‘ice deck’
Ave White Christian Nationalist down with ICE from day one.
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I made this account to keep it real. This forum is fucking pathetic.
You joined a forum to “show them” yea this forum is definitely the problem. Totally not you right.
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@Alberteinstein
Hi AVE
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Get ready, ready, ready
Stormtroopers comin'
Get ready, ready, ready
Stormtroopers comin'
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQM5-ZBdFpGdnVjDtRv3xPSf2IXk1hhnU-vUa1E3p0epQwiW_KrUDCokmqt&s=10)
‘Eyes without a Face’ AKA the ‘ice deck’
Ave White Christian Nationalist down with ICE from day one.
Damn.. you are blowing my mind right now.
And I have 2 of these on ice (no pun intended) I'm about to go focus them off principle
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@Alberteinstein
Hi AVE
AVEberteinstein
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it's kinda sad that in his epicly later'd, he mentions that spending all of that time in russia as a kid made him appreciate the united states so much more once he got back
now look at him. devouring russian propaganda from noted asset tucker carlson. you fucked up ave
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Maybe it’s just burnout but I’m not even surprised by this. Has Ave ever said or done anything in the past that led us to believe him to be open minded or intelligent? How long has he been living off of skateboarding? probably feels entitled because of his “hard work” similar to the majority of maga morons who came up with some kind of privilege and/or lack of education.
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He named his company after a sport dominated by tough guy white men of at least some privilege (hockey is a lot more expensive to participate in than most team sports). And what's hockey played on? Fucking ice. The signs were all there.
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Playing the devil's advocate here but would it be possible that meta is showing him "following" just some bullshit the platform wants to push? I have no horse in this race and it is definitely possible that AVE is a right-wing kook but nothing would surprise me in the american social media wasteland.
Hard pass on the platform though.
Are you suggesting that instagram followed those accounts for AVE without informing him?
A lot of people were following POTUS or The White House and didn’t unfollow when it flipped to the Trump administration. That can happen unknowingly, but a cursory skim of AVE’s following list shows quite a bit of far right bullshit. He’s following Tucker AND Tucker News Network, that’s not an accident.
Not to say they are the same thing, but following the white house on Instagram regardless of who is in power is questionable in itself.
Follow some babes and hunks, see some kickflips. That's what Instagram is about.
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Maybe it’s just burnout but I’m not even surprised by this. Has Ave ever said or done anything in the past that led us to believe him to be open minded or intelligent? How long has he been living off of skateboarding? probably feels entitled because of his “hard work” similar to the majority of maga morons who came up with some kind of privilege and/or lack of education.
other than his close relationships with greg hunt and dill (guys who have both had left-leaning opinions over the years. saw recently greg was posting anti-ice stuff on his stories), i'm not sure
but you know, is anyone really ever talking about politics when you're trying to film a trick? maybe it never comes up at all
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Get ready, ready, ready
Stormtroopers comin'
Get ready, ready, ready
Stormtroopers comin'
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQM5-ZBdFpGdnVjDtRv3xPSf2IXk1hhnU-vUa1E3p0epQwiW_KrUDCokmqt&s=10)
‘Eyes without a Face’ AKA the ‘ice deck’
Ave White Christian Nationalist down with ICE from day one.
AVE's a White Christian Nationalist and Ben Kadow loves him!
Go get him Slappers.
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“Twenty Point Nine (The Den) is building a white-label technology that looks like a video streaming service, but allows users to purchase items they see in a video as they’re watching it“
This article provides some insight into what the Den is actually doing.
https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/business/2026/01/19/rmaping-up-see-it-click-it-buy-it
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Is it a coincidence that all their hoodies are listing for $88 dollars?
https://faworldentertainment.com/collections/hockey?srsltid=AfmBOoqLGab8wMpM5lKyt9MJnJa66rxNyyuiWqcj6BBv2q3NoRIDclit
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Is it a coincidence that all their hoodies are listing for $88 dollars?
https://faworldentertainment.com/collections/hockey?srsltid=AfmBOoqLGab8wMpM5lKyt9MJnJa66rxNyyuiWqcj6BBv2q3NoRIDclit
Hopefully going under
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Can I sort by "Bill Danforth" and get links to 23 different videos (https://www.skatevideosite.com/skaters/bill-danforth)? Can I get every Unreel Productions contest video from the 80's (https://www.skatevideosite.com/companies/unreel-productions) at the click of a button? If not, I'm out!
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Remember when ave wore the cross shirt and you crybabies started cry babying
The Indy cross hurts my feeling
God damn
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Remember when ave wore the cross shirt and you crybabies started cry babying
The Indy cross hurts my feeling
God damn
Nope just remember when I wore out your mom and your crybaby ass started crying ...I guess I hurt your feelings when I ghosted her...sorry son she didn't swallow you
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You’re going on 5000 posts on here
You don’t get any
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You’re going on 5000 posts on here
You don’t get any
Careful...you sure this isn't a takes one to know one situation. I bet you know all about getting some (from your left hand)
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I'm just here to make sure this makes it to the next page. You can't bury the past no matter how heckride you wanna be.
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You’re going on 5000 posts on here
You don’t get any
You post twice as much as them per day.
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Is it a coincidence that all their hoodies are listing for $88 dollars?
https://faworldentertainment.com/collections/hockey?srsltid=AfmBOoqLGab8wMpM5lKyt9MJnJa66rxNyyuiWqcj6BBv2q3NoRIDclit
Coincidence him and his wife have blonde hair blue eyes?
Just kidding. But on a real one though I’m disappointed to find this shit out about someone I liked. I like to think i’m pretty accepting of differences in politics but following border patrol is weird as hell and this administration is far and away the most fucked thing ever.
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You’re going on 5000 posts on here
You don’t get any
You check your rep more than you admit to
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You’re going on 5000 posts on here
You don’t get any
You check your rep more than you admit to
Oh shit, you’re the guy whose mom got railed by Abyss right? That’s what people are saying.
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You’re going on 5000 posts on here
You don’t get any
You check your rep more than you admit to
No one on SLAP gives a fuck about you. No one in your life gives a fuck about you. Not a single soul gives a fuck about you.
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You’re going on 5000 posts on here
You don’t get any
You check your rep more than you admit to
No one on SLAP gives a fuck about you. No one in your life gives a fuck about you. Not a single soul gives a fuck about you.
Hahah you just got outted
What’s the matter buddy a little upset over internet skateboarding
Hahahahha can’t make this shit up
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You’re going on 5000 posts on here
You don’t get any
You check your rep more than you admit to
No one on SLAP gives a fuck about you. No one in your life gives a fuck about you. Not a single soul gives a fuck about you.
Hahah you just got outted
What’s the matter buddy a little upset over internet skateboarding
Hahahahha can’t make this shit up
ok but you're upset because you don't the shit like slap pals are posting...I couldn't make THAT shit up
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You don’t get any
You check your rep more than you admit to
Oh shit, you’re the guy whose mom got railed by Abyss right? That’s what people are saying.
gnar'd
Being a slap pal is a zero accomplishment
You are on a skateboard forum
no but pwning your mom is my greatest accomplishment... badoom tish....I'll be here all week folks
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Being a slap pal is a zero accomplishment
You are on a skateboard forum
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Being a slap pal is a zero accomplishment
You are on a skateboard forum
You’re the only one implying that someone’s account status is an accomplishment, you’re the only one bringing up checking their rep status, you’re the one who sought this place out and went through the steps to create an account to post everyday only to disparage its culture and community.
And you’re not the first or the last. Just another dusty ass loser who’ll be banned like all the losers who came before you. And you don’t even do it well. You suck at sucking. Loser.
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Being a slap pal is a zero accomplishment
You are on a skateboard forum
You’re the only one implying that someone’s account status is an accomplishment, you’re the only one bringing up checking their rep status, you’re the one who sought this place out and went through the steps to create an account to post everyday only to disparage its culture and community.
And you’re not the first or the last. Just another dusty ass loser who’ll be banned like all the losers who came before you. And you don’t even do it well. You suck at sucking. Loser.
He also said none of us skate and won't post clips
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Being a slap pal is a zero accomplishment
You are on a skateboard forum
lmao not sure if you know this but we all hate Zero.
just shut your stupid ass up already
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Being a slap pal is a zero accomplishment
You are on a skateboard forum
You’re the only one implying that someone’s account status is an accomplishment, you’re the only one bringing up checking their rep status, you’re the one who sought this place out and went through the steps to create an account to post everyday only to disparage its culture and community.
And you’re not the first or the last. Just another dusty ass loser who’ll be banned like all the losers who came before you. And you don’t even do it well. You suck at sucking. Loser.
Really getting into it eh brother
Waiting on the documentary
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@Alberteinstein works for the alliance defending freedom confirmed.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sCAuHH5EYnE (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sCAuHH5EYnE)
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I think you’re all wrong on who brilliant boy is. I’m pretty certain he’s Jellis. He’s not funny and thinks he’s winning the culture war. Seems pretty obvious.
I miss Jinn. At least he was funny when he’d troll. New guy’s pretty low effort. ‘Your mad’
Worst.
Troll.
Ever.
And…Post.
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Anyone got footy or a pic of AVE from his cornrow era? I remember I had a Transworld poster where he was doing a noseblunt on those benches in Barcelona with full on baggy t and cornrows.
I feel like all AVE cornrow footage has been strategically removed from the internet. VF Corp conspiracy.
I mean his Ted Nugent era was not much better.
"he's a wango tango loving man" - tim o'connor (i might be butchering this quote)
(https://i.ibb.co/67f7D7kr/bonus1.jpg)
Maybe he wasn't into the Nuge just for the music but the politics too.(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71u8L8sA4HL._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg)
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Maybe he just wanted to buy an underage Asian girl like the Ted Nugent’s pedophile ass did.
Never forget thats how the great patriot got his first child.
Oops. I mean wife.
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If Slap were an employee dining room table, alberteinstein would be that one coworker who invites himself to sit at the table uninvited and starts annoying everyone just by being himself, to the point where everyone’s whispering to each other “yo who invited this guy?”
Hints are dropped that he’s unwanted but he either doesn’t pick up on them or just ignores them out of denial. Everyone eventually finds a table in a more secluded area to sit away from him, and everyone’s relieved that they finally successfully ditched him, only for him to somehow find the new table and invite himself to sit again, much to the annoyance of everyone.
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Anyone got footy or a pic of AVE from his cornrow era? I remember I had a Transworld poster where he was doing a noseblunt on those benches in Barcelona with full on baggy t and cornrows.
I feel like all AVE cornrow footage has been strategically removed from the internet. VF Corp conspiracy.
I mean his Ted Nugent era was not much better.
"he's a wango tango loving man" - tim o'connor (i might be butchering this quote)
(https://i.ibb.co/67f7D7kr/bonus1.jpg)
Maybe he wasn't into the Nuge just for the music but the politics too.(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71u8L8sA4HL._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg)
Whats up with your sig ?
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people love to say "such and such did whatever first" but that's competition. If the den was good, then Ave's service will just be dead on arrival. They gotta work on marketing. I forgot the den even existed
I would love a streaming service to acquire the rights to all the old 2000s-era contest series and TV programs. ASL, Captain and Casey, whatever contest it was that Chris Gentry used to dominate, which aired on Fox Sports. Or even just an all action sports streaming app.
Then you must not listen to des Bunt, first mistake.
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Anyone got footy or a pic of AVE from his cornrow era? I remember I had a Transworld poster where he was doing a noseblunt on those benches in Barcelona with full on baggy t and cornrows.
I feel like all AVE cornrow footage has been strategically removed from the internet. VF Corp conspiracy.
I mean his Ted Nugent era was not much better.
"he's a wango tango loving man" - tim o'connor (i might be butchering this quote)
(https://i.ibb.co/67f7D7kr/bonus1.jpg)
Maybe he wasn't into the Nuge just for the music but the politics too.(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71u8L8sA4HL._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg)
Whats up with your sig ?
I recently found out about the "funny" ad they made using the napalm girl photo and it pissed me off.
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Anyone got footy or a pic of AVE from his cornrow era? I remember I had a Transworld poster where he was doing a noseblunt on those benches in Barcelona with full on baggy t and cornrows.
I feel like all AVE cornrow footage has been strategically removed from the internet. VF Corp conspiracy.
I mean his Ted Nugent era was not much better.
"he's a wango tango loving man" - tim o'connor (i might be butchering this quote)
(https://i.ibb.co/67f7D7kr/bonus1.jpg)
Maybe he wasn't into the Nuge just for the music but the politics too.(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71u8L8sA4HL._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg)
Whats up with your sig ?
I recently found out about the "funny" ad they made using the napalm girl photo and it pissed me off.
I had to look this up, holy shit. Fuck those guys and their wack fake biker tough guy edgelord bullshit
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Grifttape
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Grifttape
Grift Ape
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Being a slap pal is a zero accomplishment
You are on a skateboard forum
Damn. This one cuts deep.
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Hey, I don't skate, I just post here to know about who is fucking whose mom.
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not to minimize ave's right leaning what have yous, it's been documented that hockey was derived from the tall man and donavon's rough skating style, the company was made for them.
eyes without a face is a billy idol song
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not to minimize ave's right leaning what have yous, it's been documented that hockey was derived from the tall man and donavon's rough skating style, the company was made for them.
eyes without a face is a billy idol song
Putting people of Irish and Italian blood on a separate but equal board company. Old school .
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not to minimize ave's right leaning what have yous, it's been documented that hockey was derived from the tall man and donavon's rough skating style, the company was made for them.
eyes without a face is a billy idol song
Putting people of Irish and Italian blood on a separate but equal board company. Old school .
Dill: ‘No Catholics on FA.’
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lurking who ave follows is a trip, he and Lucien Clarke follow Michael Douglas
quasi and bust crew
tr*mp
rogan
tuckercarlson & tuckercarlsonnetwork
h*llsangels
fredgallsfeet
carhartwip
anonymousshadow conspiracy ppl
strongholdsociety which is a native skatepark crew
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This fool did skate to a whole ass ted nugent song called stormtroopin and has a skateboard company that has about as much diversity as an actual hockey team
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The third FA/Hockey owner Mike or whatever his name is, has spent the last few years making a documentary on RFK and helped run his political campaign. pretty lols
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what da fuck
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No thanks.
Maybe if it was 2007, but even then, probably not paying more than a Netflix subscription to access skate videos that I can watch for free or that I already own.
I'd rather just buy a local/indy video. I think I own a video I got in Quebec city that is on a USB-C memory card. And, I still think local videos should sell stickers that have the QR link to the video on the back. Not the same as a DVD, but a cool/cheap physical way to represent the video and make a little money. Who doesn't like stickers?
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In the latest Mostly Skateboarding podcast, one of the hosts decided to purchase the 10 bucks a month option to research the product as whole and he said once he got access, there was no content to be seen yet. This is literally ETN all over again, such a grift move from AVE here.
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In the latest Mostly Skateboarding podcast, one of the hosts decided to purchase the 10 bucks a month option to research the product as whole and he said once he got access, there was no content to be seen yet. This is literally ETN all over again, such a grift move from AVE here.
Except etn actually had some cool original content and lined pockets of the skaters. So this is just all the negatives of etn with none of the positives.
I would imagine most of a griptape subscription would go to paying music royalties instead of paying skaters. Seems like a legal mess that will leave almost nothing on the table for skaters and filmers.
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"Almost nothing" is better than nothing.
I skipped from page one, so this may have been brought up. I say this because if the concern here is revenue, the only way to address that is by including other boards: for example, snowboarding.
I got paid exactly nothing for this post, the same amount most get for having their parts available for free online.
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In the latest Mostly Skateboarding podcast, one of the hosts decided to purchase the 10 bucks a month option to research the product as whole and he said once he got access, there was no content to be seen yet. This is literally ETN all over again, such a grift move from AVE here.
Except etn actually had some cool original content and lined pockets of the skaters. So this is just all the negatives of etn with none of the positives.
I would imagine most of a griptape subscription would go to paying music royalties instead of paying skaters. Seems like a legal mess that will leave almost nothing on the table for skaters and filmers.
Bored Ave Yacht Club
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what are skate videos ? art/documentaries or marketing content ?
pretty sure everyone involved in the production has already been paid ? or maybe not... how does AVE know ?
Is AVE here to retroactively make it right ? or slowly transforming into Mike Mo and all those grifters ?
"why pay when youtube is free" people don't think too much about ads, independent creators labor and all that.
Pretty dumb if you ask me
Hanging out at a shop is free but you gotta sometimes help pay the bills (buying discounted items ain't it)... or you won't be able to crash on the sofa anymore
this post wasn't sponsored by NordVPN
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what are skate videos ? art/documentaries or marketing content ?
pretty sure everyone involved in the production has already been paid ? or maybe not... how does AVE know ?
Is AVE here to retroactively make it right ? or slowly transforming into Mike Mo and all those grifters ?
"why pay when youtube is free" people don't think too much about ads, independent creators labor and all that.
Pretty dumb if you ask me
Hanging out at a shop is free but you gotta sometimes help pay the bills (buying discounted items ain't it)... or you won't be able to crash on the sofa anymore
this post wasn't sponsored by NordVPN
That's a great question and one he should honestly address. Do the skaters, filmers, editors, graphic designers, audio people involved with the videos receive royalties? If so it's a great idea, and I'd assume that he'd have to pay people to avoid getting sued. Hopefully it generates some revenue for those people if successful, if not it reflects pretty poorly on ave and is disappointing.
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what are skate videos ? art/documentaries or marketing content ?
pretty sure everyone involved in the production has already been paid ? or maybe not... how does AVE know ?
Is AVE here to retroactively make it right ? or slowly transforming into Mike Mo and all those grifters ?
"why pay when youtube is free" people don't think too much about ads, independent creators labor and all that.
Pretty dumb if you ask me
Hanging out at a shop is free but you gotta sometimes help pay the bills (buying discounted items ain't it)... or you won't be able to crash on the sofa anymore
this post wasn't sponsored by NordVPN
Even though I think the app or whatever it is is a dumb idea and probably a waste of time and money, his heart probably was in the right place. It has to suck to see hardest good or whatever random youtube make money off of other people's labor. Same with Mike Mo's thing. Mike Mo did it in a creative way (even though I'll always see it as a grift)
Personally, I think he shouldve done it differently. The model they are trying just doesnt make sense in this day and age
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I just don’t see a world in which UMG don’t somehow take the majority of money from any streaming service that wasn’t listed in the licensing agreements obtained when the video was made.
If it wasn’t for music licensing i’d just say the simplest way to allow skaters to make ‘residuals’ off their video parts would be for the companies to allow the skaters to post their parts to their own Youtube channels after a certain grace period. Might even make them work harder. Could work if you just skated to a homies music I guess?
It would’ve saved us all many years of watching shit quality skate parts with bad sound quality or different songs that’s for sure.
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Simplemagic had some interesting takes
https://www.simplemagic.ca/action-sports-is-in-full-growth-mode/
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I just don’t see a world in which UMG don’t somehow take the majority of money from any streaming service that wasn’t listed in the licensing agreements obtained when the video was made.
If it wasn’t for music licensing i’d just say the simplest way to allow skaters to make ‘residuals’ off their video parts would be for the companies to allow the skaters to post their parts to their own Youtube channels after a certain grace period. Might even make them work harder. Could work if you just skated to a homies music I guess?
It would’ve saved us all many years of watching shit quality skate parts with bad sound quality or different songs that’s for sure.
great point, more people should skate to their friends music or let their friends score videos. Would create some awesome art + it's mutually beneficial for musician and skater.
also, UMG is pretty evil and music makes up so much of a skate part in terms of feeling for me. Idk how ave could get rights to all of it.
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Simplemagic had some interesting takes
https://www.simplemagic.ca/action-sports-is-in-full-growth-mode/
That was a great read and shoutout to them for reaching out and trying to ask the hard shitting questions directly only to be met with silence at the end smh
This app is the Fire Festival of Skateboarding
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If these pro skaters need more money they should just join dumdummies. I’m sure they could get paid for dangerous skateboard stunts.
(https://preview.redd.it/anyone-registered-v0-4jfsdzde4sue1.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=9be752f4961ce3f7264af69f117ef10990e6c6ff)
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"Almost nothing" is better than nothing.
I skipped from page one, so this may have been brought up. I say this because if the concern here is revenue, the only way to address that is by including other boards: for example, snowboarding.
I got paid exactly nothing for this post, the same amount most get for having their parts available for free online.
This is the argument for Spotify, and it is provably incorrect. Musicians make less money off of music now than ever before. Spotify (and their corporate partners at Sony, UMG, etc.) make the lion share of subscription money and distribute it to effectively 20 other people. Spotify was touted as a way to save musicians from people torrenting music. Unfortunately, the torrenting population invested their few dollars in musicians directly. Now, that money just goes to streamers and never hits the pockets of musicians.
If this ever even gets of the ground, the money will never get to a single skater who could use it.
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what are skate videos ? art/documentaries or marketing content ?
pretty sure everyone involved in the production has already been paid ? or maybe not... how does AVE know ?
Is AVE here to retroactively make it right ? or slowly transforming into Mike Mo and all those grifters ?
"why pay when youtube is free" people don't think too much about ads, independent creators labor and all that.
Pretty dumb if you ask me
Hanging out at a shop is free but you gotta sometimes help pay the bills (buying discounted items ain't it)... or you won't be able to crash on the sofa anymore
this post wasn't sponsored by NordVPN
Even though I think the app or whatever it is is a dumb idea and probably a waste of time and money, his heart probably was in the right place. It has to suck to see hardest good or whatever random youtube make money off of other people's labor. Same with Mike Mo's thing. Mike Mo did it in a creative way (even though I'll always see it as a grift)
Personally, I think he shouldve done it differently. The model they are trying just doesnt make sense in this day and age
fwiw the guy from hardest good came here a few months ago to say he doesn't monetize. I don't really like what he does (I think people should watch the og clips / edits, seems more fair to funnel views on the original platform). But people have been making remixes since forever.
You know memoryscreen puts a lot of work into his edits and I think it serves skate history.
For sure differently... it feels like "app, pay first and content is actually lacking", rather than "ok let's make it fair for everyone, for this and that reason, we're going to do it it that way and here are the rules, use this website and see where it goes".
I'm pretty sure it's doomed from the start, it's not going to be easy with music rights and who deserves what among involved people.
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Cole's questions are good, and if it's the case that Spotify's model is not the way to go as mentioned in the conclusion, here is a possibility:
Download parts @$00.69 per video, like a vending machine: revenue from a download goes directly to the people involved.
So, if monthly subscription is @6.90 that's 10 parts/videos that the user has access to for the remainder of their time on the platform: each month they'll get 10 more. Math, baby.
And again, it has to include snowboarding, surfing, and snowskating.
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guess this is already done lmao, post was deleted
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Sounded like a terrible idea from the jump.
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The Thrasher app makes this obsolete. Plus, the majority of content that isn’t on the app can be viewed on YouTube. It’s not a surprise that this didn’t work out.
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Never had any griptape lose traction this fast.
Defective.