360 Flips

[Frank and Fred]

Hell Yeah. Congratulations @frontsideNECKTIE In a confined space also....

[BartHarleyJarvis]

Pals

I got one



Guys at the shop have been watching me try and land one when I stop in and I landed my first 360 flip on film.

I just kept thinking “muscle it like BA”, and got one in like 15 tries yesterday. Stomped on more in one day than I had in my whole life. Ahh fucking finally!!

https://www.instagram.com/stories/washington.necktie/3370233951913813399?igsh=MXNiYm42a2w0ZHgwbA==

hell yeah, congrats

[rocklobster]

We were there!! We helped!!

Congrats @frontsideNECKTIE

[Frank and Fred]

Inspired me to get one this morning.

[SupremePizza]

Been working on these for years and constantly landing too far forward making it hard to roll out of. Went at it yesterday, landed too far forward but both feet on board about 30/50 times and then finally landed one that I could roll out of. I feel like with this trick I have zero room for error where with like a kickflip even with poor form or foot position I can still land one. Goal now is to land one every seasion

[Getty]

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I feel you can't brute force 360 flips during the learning phase, without the right technique it takes too much effort and you'll face diminishing returns beyond 10 tries.

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Yes, this is 100% correct and very wise to recognize. Overdoing it doesn't work, it will just wear you out all the while really making sure you firmly develop all kinds of parasitic habits. When your mistake becomes part of your muscle memory is when things really suck.

My analysis of the video is funny because it looks like the bail of someone who already can do the trick and just barely misses a random one. There is literally nothing you're doing wrong in it so I believe your barrier is completely mental, what I'm seeing you do here is you're about to catch the trick but then you deny it to yourself like it's supposed to be hard and so you're not supposed to win just yet. And so you have the reflex of opening your shoulders at the very last moment for the catch and you refuse it, but you don't look out of control at all. It sounds silly but I firmly believe this subsconscious self-imposed set of standards thing is something most skaters do until they realize and break out of it, it's a very personal tie to what one thinks they should or shouldn't be able to accomplish at large and the fear of disrupting that order. Now that's going in too deep for online tips on 360 flips but try pretending to yourself that you normally can do the trick as easily as a pop shove-it and are just trying to fix it because for some obscure reason it's not working that day. That's how I first learned switch flips, by pretending to myself I was fixing my normal kickflips just I was a regular footed skater that day.

Another general visualization tip, make sure the goal you're setting for yourself doesn't stop at just catching the trick, but feeling the roll away from it. Sometimes the current step of the learning process is an obstacle that takes so much focus it starts looking like the whole process and so you lose sight of your full ambition, micromanage things, and fall down a mental spiral that just takes you further away from it (that also explains 'madness' in skateboarding). In the case of your 360 flips that means make sure you visualize rolling away from your trick before you even pop it and then just kind of stomp where it will land anyway because you have the power of deciding that. If you don't do that then it's likely your brain will get stuck on 'well I personally think just the flip is good enough'.

tl;dr accept it for yourself that you can do the trick, and roll away like the champ you were all along.

Love this post. This whole thread has been inspiring. I'm 51 and my last good tre flip was a couple years ago. I've slowly let that one slip away but now I'm hyped to get one today.

[rocklobster]

Been working on these for years and constantly landing too far forward making it hard to roll out of. Went at it yesterday, landed too far forward but both feet on board about 30/50 times and then finally landed one that I could roll out of. I feel like with this trick I have zero room for error where with like a kickflip even with poor form or foot position I can still land one. Goal now is to land one every seasion

The scoop and flick are looking on point, at this stage you can focus on refining the trick. What I mean by that is checking your head and shoulders, looks like you're pretty hunch over and beyond your toes as you're squatting down to pop / scoop. That will instinctively throw your body away from the board and your feet won't be able to catch the board since it's behind you.

Check your posture, keep your weight on the heelside of your board and your shoulders / head aligned + above the board before you pop / scoop.

You're almost there!

Re-post of what I typed above - if you're landing beyond / ahead of your board it probably means your weight is too far over your board and as you scoop the body weight is going to toss you away from your board.

Keep your weight flat on your board and even some on the heelside, shoulder / back / butt align and over the heelside of the deck. That will keep you board under(-ish) you to make the catch natural.

[Dirty_Dan90]

I always try to keep my shoulders slightly open in front of me and when i scoop i try to scoop hard as possible to get that shhcaap! sound and flick just a light kickflip, i also imagine my feet coming back over my board in a straight line. It makes it easier for your board to catch instead of trying to follow the board while flipping. 

[RichardBarkley]

Does anyone else kinda scoop the opposite direction of the way you are rolling just slightly to get leverage and tension then scoop forward?

Kinda like a nike tick

[RichardBarkley]

Ha maybe just me then