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[Atiba Applebum]

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I’m no expert on the situation between hamas/ palistine and Israel, but I’m pretty sure raven’s not either

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What’s lame about this?

I guess crowing about a horrific terrorist attack feels a bit tacky.   

Hamas is an extremist group, in no way a representative of the Palestinian people and it feels iffy to conflate the two and assume that everyday Palestinians sign off on these attacks.     

I would say, if the Gaza situation did concern him, I would hope that this wasn’t the first time he used his IG to spread awareness of the situation.

(I’m very anti-Bibi and right wing Israeli government btw.   All I truly support is safety and peace for Israeli and Palestinian citizens.)

[manysnakes]

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I’m no expert on the situation between hamas/ palistine and Israel, but I’m pretty sure raven’s not either

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What’s lame about this?

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I guess crowing about a horrific terrorist attack feels a bit tacky.   

Hamas is an extremist group, in no way a representative of the Palestinian people and it feels iffy to conflate the two and assume that everyday Palestinians sign off on these attacks.     

I would say, if the Gaza situation did concern him, I would hope that this wasn’t the first time he used his IG to spread awareness of the situation.

(I’m very anti-Bibi and right wing Israeli government btw.   All I truly support is safety and peace for Israeli and Palestinian citizens.)

When you see a Palestinian flag, you assume it’s “crowing about a horrific terrorist attack”?

[addie pray]

raven is the best yo

[Newphone]

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I’m no expert on the situation between hamas/ palistine and Israel, but I’m pretty sure raven’s not either

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What’s lame about this?

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I guess crowing about a horrific terrorist attack feels a bit tacky.   

Hamas is an extremist group, in no way a representative of the Palestinian people and it feels iffy to conflate the two and assume that everyday Palestinians sign off on these attacks.     

I would say, if the Gaza situation did concern him, I would hope that this wasn’t the first time he used his IG to spread awareness of the situation.

(I’m very anti-Bibi and right wing Israeli government btw.   All I truly support is safety and peace for Israeli and Palestinian citizens.)

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When you see a Palestinian flag, you assume it’s “crowing about a horrific terrorist attack”?

There’s text to the post as well.

Again no expert on the conflict, but aren’t reports saying they decapitated babies, shot up a music festival, raped civilian women and dragged them behind cars?

“and at the end of the day American soldiers have done the same thing hamas just did all over the world for decades”

I get we bomb and drone strike, but not sure we’re doing all that “all over the world for decades.”

[Atiba Applebum]

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I’m no expert on the situation between hamas/ palistine and Israel, but I’m pretty sure raven’s not either

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What’s lame about this?

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I guess crowing about a horrific terrorist attack feels a bit tacky.   

Hamas is an extremist group, in no way a representative of the Palestinian people and it feels iffy to conflate the two and assume that everyday Palestinians sign off on these attacks.     

I would say, if the Gaza situation did concern him, I would hope that this wasn’t the first time he used his IG to spread awareness of the situation.

(I’m very anti-Bibi and right wing Israeli government btw.   All I truly support is safety and peace for Israeli and Palestinian citizens.)

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When you see a Palestinian flag, you assume it’s “crowing about a horrific terrorist attack”?

No the message of “sometimes peaceful protests don’t work” that he included makes it feel that way.   I’m not above efforts of Palestinians to reclaim their rights, etc, but I don’t think I would combine that sentiment at the time Hamas launches an attack

[bartlaser]

"...by any means necessary"  Does he know what that means?

[Watson]

Nice, I was just hoping this thread would turn into a debate on world affairs again.

[Atiba Applebum]

Nice, I was just hoping this thread would turn into a debate on world affairs again.

I was just about to get into Azerbaijan…

[lurkluke]

Eldy

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxHKkNmJLwu/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

The finger point at no-one when walking into the courtyard, and the burger reaction. It's called acting, and damn, the boy has got it.

[Rerun]

Eldy

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxHKkNmJLwu/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

The finger point at no-one when walking into the courtyard, and the burger reaction. It's called acting, and damn, the boy has got it.

I got stronger douche chills watching this than his YouTube show. And that's saying a lot.

[douchenozzle]

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Eldy

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxHKkNmJLwu/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

The finger point at no-one when walking into the courtyard, and the burger reaction. It's called acting, and damn, the boy has got it.

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I got stronger douche chills watching this than his YouTube show. And that's saying a lot.
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Ugggg. God I hate golf

[dallou]

Is he still doing the youtube thing ?

[professional]

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I’m no expert on the situation between hamas/ palistine and Israel, but I’m pretty sure raven’s not either

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What’s lame about this?

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I guess crowing about a horrific terrorist attack feels a bit tacky.   

Hamas is an extremist group, in no way a representative of the Palestinian people and it feels iffy to conflate the two and assume that everyday Palestinians sign off on these attacks.     

I would say, if the Gaza situation did concern him, I would hope that this wasn’t the first time he used his IG to spread awareness of the situation.

(I’m very anti-Bibi and right wing Israeli government btw.   All I truly support is safety and peace for Israeli and Palestinian citizens.)

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When you see a Palestinian flag, you assume it’s “crowing about a horrific terrorist attack”?

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There’s text to the post as well.

Again no expert on the conflict, but aren’t reports saying they decapitated babies, shot up a music festival, raped civilian women and dragged them behind cars?

“and at the end of the day American soldiers have done the same thing hamas just did all over the world for decades”

I get we bomb and drone strike, but not sure we’re doing all that “all over the world for decades.”

It's clear the music festival got shot up(imagine raving next to an open air prison?), but the claims about rapes, decapitated babies and dragging people behind cars have either been debunked or are unsubstantiated. Fast and dirty propaganda at play that sound awfully familiar to tropes previously used leading up to wars in Afghanistan, Libya and Iraq.

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I get we bomb and drone strike, but not sure we’re doing all that “all over the world for decades.”

If you're actually interested in the topic, I encourage you to read up on it. Maybe start here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes

Or maybe here if you're specifically doubting the "killing civilians indiscriminately and butchering babies" part:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_massacre

And before someone starts whatabouting that this kind of behavior happens everywhere all the time: Yes, absolutely. That's why all armed conflicts are utter tragedies.

[Shtonk]

I was a fan of Raven going political up until his very last sentence: "by any means necessary". As a Lebanese American he should have a good idea what extremist Islamism does to a society, Hezbollah ain't no joke and still they are far behind what Hamas and the Islamic Jihad are propagating. To tie an argument for liberation to the terror of Hamas is some of the dumbest shit I've ever encountered. What kind of liberation will you find? Maybe book a ticket to Afghanistan and check it out.

I'm a sharp critic of Israel's crimes against the Plaestinian civilian population and I detest how everybody tries to act like this was an unprovoked, unforeseeable attack on an innocent nation (kinda like the US behaved post-9/11). Chickens will eventually come home to roost. And what Israelis are doing now will ultimately stoke global antisemitism to levels unknown post-Holocaust. By descending to the smae terror wrought upon them they will turn into monsters in many peoples eyes and hating the slaughtering jews will become a more acceptable position once this war is over. (Simply compare what the war on terror did to global opinion concerning the US...)

But even taking all of this into account, to try and make some humanitarian liberationist argument out of a terror attack by genocidal Islamist terrorists is fucking demented.

[HeavyAndExpensive]

I figured out where he is.


Using the “boss” sign next to “ted barrow” store and across from the abocrobie and Fitch I began looking at outlet malls in eastern mass.  I further refined the location by looking for Applebees bar and grills nearby that might employee his mother after she drops him off.


I quickly discovered that this video was shot at the Wrentham village premium outlets, as you can see in the ample photos of the site.

https://www.premiumoutlets.com/outlet/wrentham-village


So Jereme is menacing these outlets and living back home with mom and dad, music having taken everything from him he was willing to give, including his independence. That’s dedication.

Yeah, but they're premium outlets. Do you frequent premium outlets? Yeah, that's what I thought.

[Gray Imp Sausage Metal]

Word around town, outlets where I sit

[Newphone]

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I get we bomb and drone strike, but not sure we’re doing all that “all over the world for decades.”

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If you're actually interested in the topic, I encourage you to read up on it. Maybe start here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes

Or maybe here if you're specifically doubting the "killing civilians indiscriminately and butchering babies" part:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_massacre

And before someone starts whatabouting that this kind of behavior happens everywhere all the time: Yes, absolutely. That's why all armed conflicts are utter tragedies.

I’m aware that is soldiers have done some horrific stuff, but it seems like the accusation is that the U.S. military has endorsed Hamas like tactics.  The us seems to throw people in jail often as a resolution to these accounts, where as Hamas, reportedly, celebrates these actions.

In terms of wataboutism, isn’t ravens initial comment  peak whataboutism?

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I get we bomb and drone strike, but not sure we’re doing all that “all over the world for decades.”

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If you're actually interested in the topic, I encourage you to read up on it. Maybe start here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes

Or maybe here if you're specifically doubting the "killing civilians indiscriminately and butchering babies" part:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_massacre

And before someone starts whatabouting that this kind of behavior happens everywhere all the time: Yes, absolutely. That's why all armed conflicts are utter tragedies.

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I’m aware that is soldiers have done some horrific stuff, but it seems like the accusation is that the U.S. military has endorsed Hamas like tactics.  The us seems to throw people in jail often as a resolution to these accounts, where as Hamas, reportedly, celebrates these actions.

In terms of wataboutism, isn’t ravens initial comment  peak whataboutism?

I'm really not trying to get into political or moral arguments on Slap, and I regret posting anything on this topic already, so forgive me if this is my last reply in this matter:

Hamas is an internationally shunned terror organization, the US military is part of the executive branch of the most powerful country in the world and by far the strongest armed force in existence. There's really no comparing the two on any level, and that's not what I tried to do with my post.

I just saw your statement and misread it as you thinking the US military wasn't in the business of intentionally killing children and civilians, so I posted something. If you think these actions are the result of the proverbial few bad apples and not of systemic nature, cool. Chances are I won't be able to convince you otherwise, and I would really like to focus my time and energy on here on skateboarding related matters.

[Shtonk]

Not to start a semantic war around "whataboutism" but to insist on a perspective that sees both sides of an intricately linked conflict instead of exclusively concentrating on the suffering on one side, doesn't seem so very whatabouty to me. I've always understood whataboutism as trying to redirect attention/argument to an unrelated or at least distant topic. Like if somebody talked about Israeli mourning and you came in: yeah but what about the people drowning in the Mediterranean?

[Shtonk]

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I get we bomb and drone strike, but not sure we’re doing all that “all over the world for decades.”

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If you're actually interested in the topic, I encourage you to read up on it. Maybe start here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes

Or maybe here if you're specifically doubting the "killing civilians indiscriminately and butchering babies" part:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_massacre

And before someone starts whatabouting that this kind of behavior happens everywhere all the time: Yes, absolutely. That's why all armed conflicts are utter tragedies.

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I’m aware that is soldiers have done some horrific stuff, but it seems like the accusation is that the U.S. military has endorsed Hamas like tactics.  The us seems to throw people in jail often as a resolution to these accounts, where as Hamas, reportedly, celebrates these actions.

In terms of wataboutism, isn’t ravens initial comment  peak whataboutism?

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I'm really not trying to get into political or moral arguments on Slap, and I regret posting anything on this topic already, so forgive me if this is my last reply in this matter:

Hamas is an internationally shunned terror organization, the US military is part of the executive branch of the most powerful country in the world and by far the strongest armed force in existence. There's really no comparing the two on any level, and that's not what I tried to do with my post.

I just saw your statement and misread it as you thinking the US military wasn't in the business of intentionally killing children and civilians, so I posted something. If you think these actions are the result of the proverbial few bad apples and not of systemic nature, cool. Chances are I won't be able to convince you otherwise, and I would really like to focus my time and energy on here on skateboarding related matters.

I think you make an important point and concisely so and I thank you for the time and effort spent on it. I'd like to focus on skateboarding as well but the world has a habit of interfering.

[Fartknocker415]

nah peak whataboutism would be saying "what about the nakba"

Are you trying to suggest we shouldn't acknowledge the nakba?

[Useless_wooden_lurker]

I’m no expert on the situation between hamas/ palistine and Israel, but I’m pretty sure raven’s not either

Aside from having clearly given a lot of thought to his post, Raven was at least able to spell "Palestine" correctly.

[Newphone]

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I get we bomb and drone strike, but not sure we’re doing all that “all over the world for decades.”

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If you're actually interested in the topic, I encourage you to read up on it. Maybe start here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes

Or maybe here if you're specifically doubting the "killing civilians indiscriminately and butchering babies" part:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_massacre

And before someone starts whatabouting that this kind of behavior happens everywhere all the time: Yes, absolutely. That's why all armed conflicts are utter tragedies.

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I’m aware that is soldiers have done some horrific stuff, but it seems like the accusation is that the U.S. military has endorsed Hamas like tactics.  The us seems to throw people in jail often as a resolution to these accounts, where as Hamas, reportedly, celebrates these actions.

In terms of wataboutism, isn’t ravens initial comment  peak whataboutism?

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I'm really not trying to get into political or moral arguments on Slap, and I regret posting anything on this topic already, so forgive me if this is my last reply in this matter:

Hamas is an internationally shunned terror organization, the US military is part of the executive branch of the most powerful country in the world and by far the strongest armed force in existence. There's really no comparing the two on any level, and that's not what I tried to do with my post.

I just saw your statement and misread it as you thinking the US military wasn't in the business of intentionally killing children and civilians, so I posted something. If you think these actions are the result of the proverbial few bad apples and not of systemic nature, cool. Chances are I won't be able to convince you otherwise, and I would really like to focus my time and energy on here on skateboarding related matters.

You responded with a list of US war crimes but it’s also a list of people charged and punished for war crimes by the US.  Can you provide me a similar list of people being punished for war crimes from groups like Hamas?

I’m not saying that any army is or war is without these war crimes, but the idea that the US has been doing the same thing as Hamas for decades is rediculous.

If the us is “in the business of killing children and civilians” why have we engaged in ground conflict at all?  Why not just use our indisputably larger arsenal to blow up an Afghanistan or Iraq?  Why hasn’t Israel done this to Palestine? 

[Frank and Fred]

All things considered Raven's post is generating some fairly decent and informed discussion. I'm sure it will deteriorate into over-simplified, polarized, name calling rapidly.

[manysnakes]

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I get we bomb and drone strike, but not sure we’re doing all that “all over the world for decades.”

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If you're actually interested in the topic, I encourage you to read up on it. Maybe start here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes

Or maybe here if you're specifically doubting the "killing civilians indiscriminately and butchering babies" part:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_massacre

And before someone starts whatabouting that this kind of behavior happens everywhere all the time: Yes, absolutely. That's why all armed conflicts are utter tragedies.

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I’m aware that is soldiers have done some horrific stuff, but it seems like the accusation is that the U.S. military has endorsed Hamas like tactics.  The us seems to throw people in jail often as a resolution to these accounts, where as Hamas, reportedly, celebrates these actions.

In terms of wataboutism, isn’t ravens initial comment  peak whataboutism?

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I'm really not trying to get into political or moral arguments on Slap, and I regret posting anything on this topic already, so forgive me if this is my last reply in this matter:

Hamas is an internationally shunned terror organization, the US military is part of the executive branch of the most powerful country in the world and by far the strongest armed force in existence. There's really no comparing the two on any level, and that's not what I tried to do with my post.

I just saw your statement and misread it as you thinking the US military wasn't in the business of intentionally killing children and civilians, so I posted something. If you think these actions are the result of the proverbial few bad apples and not of systemic nature, cool. Chances are I won't be able to convince you otherwise, and I would really like to focus my time and energy on here on skateboarding related matters.

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You responded with a list of US war crimes but it’s also a list of people charged and punished for war crimes by the US.  Can you provide me a similar list of people being punished for war crimes from groups like Hamas?

I’m not saying that any army is or war is without these war crimes, but the idea that the US has been doing the same thing as Hamas for decades is rediculous.

If the us is “in the business of killing children and civilians” why have we engaged in ground conflict at all?  Why not just use our indisputably larger arsenal to blow up an Afghanistan or Iraq?  Why hasn’t Israel done this to Palestine?

My god dude, you cannot possibly be this stupid.

[lurkluke]

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I get we bomb and drone strike, but not sure we’re doing all that “all over the world for decades.”

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If you're actually interested in the topic, I encourage you to read up on it. Maybe start here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes

Or maybe here if you're specifically doubting the "killing civilians indiscriminately and butchering babies" part:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_massacre

And before someone starts whatabouting that this kind of behavior happens everywhere all the time: Yes, absolutely. That's why all armed conflicts are utter tragedies.

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I’m aware that is soldiers have done some horrific stuff, but it seems like the accusation is that the U.S. military has endorsed Hamas like tactics.  The us seems to throw people in jail often as a resolution to these accounts, where as Hamas, reportedly, celebrates these actions.

In terms of wataboutism, isn’t ravens initial comment  peak whataboutism?

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I'm really not trying to get into political or moral arguments on Slap, and I regret posting anything on this topic already, so forgive me if this is my last reply in this matter:

Hamas is an internationally shunned terror organization, the US military is part of the executive branch of the most powerful country in the world and by far the strongest armed force in existence. There's really no comparing the two on any level, and that's not what I tried to do with my post.

I just saw your statement and misread it as you thinking the US military wasn't in the business of intentionally killing children and civilians, so I posted something. If you think these actions are the result of the proverbial few bad apples and not of systemic nature, cool. Chances are I won't be able to convince you otherwise, and I would really like to focus my time and energy on here on skateboarding related matters.

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You responded with a list of US war crimes but it’s also a list of people charged and punished for war crimes by the US.  Can you provide me a similar list of people being punished for war crimes from groups like Hamas?

I’m not saying that any army is or war is without these war crimes, but the idea that the US has been doing the same thing as Hamas for decades is rediculous.

If the us is “in the business of killing children and civilians” why have we engaged in ground conflict at all?  Why not just use our indisputably larger arsenal to blow up an Afghanistan or Iraq?  Why hasn’t Israel done this to Palestine?

Here's a start:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/obamas-pentagon-covered-up-war-crimes-in-afghanistan-says-amnesty-international

[Dwayne Hoover]

EDIT: sorry for the massive image

[Magnolia]

It's remarkable how quickly people shift from earthy crunchy health nuts to right wing racists. Fuck AO

[Mandatory Reload]

wow so edgy, what a cool guy

glad i don't have to see anything about this dude anymore for the most part. always been a fucking idiot