Terry Kennedy of baker

[Buck Bundy]

Jesus Christ. We all knew TK was out there, but even with the “green light” he’d put on his girl, I never, ever, thought it would come to this. I had two Shalom stickers. One on my fridge, and one on a mirror in my room. Retired those to the garbage can. Absolutely nothing is Shalom about any of this. RIP to Josiah and my condolences to his friends and family. Based off of what info I’ve read, I hope TK rots in cook county before rotting in another prison once he’s sentenced. I just can’t believe this thread has come to an end with him murdering a kid a  county away from me.

[Old_Dawg]

This thread merely follows the social media postings of TK, so i wouldn’t feel at all feel responsible for his actions, however terrible they were.

Looking back maybe there were some red flags along the way though..the posts of himself just smiling at the camera come to mind.

[Colt Cannon's Cargos]

don't worry guys, habibo is going to plan a balloon release for the victim and give free tshirts to a few skaters, it's all good now.

[RikiTakeuchi]

Habibi literally just finished a live, dude rage quit because he was getting called out so much and couldn't handle it.

Calling for the skate community to back him as he plans a 'balloon launch' for Josiah's family.

[Colt Cannon's Cargos]

Habibi literally just finished a live, dude rage quit because he was getting called out so much and couldn't handle it.

Calling for the skate community to back him as he plans a 'balloon launch' for Josiah's family.

don't forget about the petition to build a skatepark in his name...in long beach...the home of the guy who allegedly murdered him. is this guy regular?

[falcon stomp]

RIP JOSIAH  :'( 
Habibi flaunting his new cars like nothing’s happened. Shame dude

[whale]

RIP Josiah

My condolences to his friends and family

[BALARGUE]

RIP to that young man
feels weird to witness all of this

Makes me think about that time i asked for shalom stickers. Seemed fun in 2019
As cliché as it is, makes me reflect on how we all sometimes make fun of people while ignoring (or not) their mental state.
Not defending what he did, justice will take care of him. This whole thing is sad and unconfortable

coudn't get stickers, thread was making fun of my request

[Cheshire Cat]

This is horrendous and should never have happened to Josiah.

I’ve followed this thread since its beginning and yes obviously there have been instances of very unstable and troubling behaviour, but blaming this / a forum for making someone beat another human being to death is not something I can get behind.

TK and his mental health issues/ public decline being documented here is nothing new to either skateboarding or public figures in general. Are Marilyn Manson fans culpable in his (allegations of) abuse because they propped him up as the King of Edge/ “Shock” Rock?
This whole thing is fucked up and there will always been mean spirited people/posts but absolutely no one could have predicted this is how Terry would end up, so to speak.

Honestly though, I’m conflicted. I remember watching the Nexpo (I think) vid about Sonichu / Chris Chan while high and just felt overwhelming pity upset by the how people treated them.
 TK didn’t really interact with us in the same way as Chris did with the internet communities they were in. Same thing with the old guy who has websites dedicated to this “Timecube” thing he thought up which seemed to just be the result of him suffering from dementia or similar. Everyone was just laughing at him and feeding his delusions.

Shalom became a meme and I bought the stickers too, it didn’t seem worrying to me back then.
I know TK is somewhat aware of Shalom being co-opted to some degree. But was anyone on Slap actually encouraging his delusions? I don’t know..


But In all of these people’s situations, it’s unclear to me how much input and help was actually offered by those who are actually close to the person in question. I’m not talking about Reynolds and the Baker guys - but the “except Andrew Reynolds” etc maybe needs looked into more - I’m thinking more of those who have been around TK in the last few years.

No matter what he is or was going through, it obviously does not excuse what Terry has done. He put that man through hell and took his life and should now be tried and punished for doing so.

[cherry]

As someone whose been in and out of mental hospitals, to me the signs were very clear that tk is 100% deranged and capable of hurting himself/others.

I don’t think anyone should feel guilty for saying shalom or this thread. Can’t diagnose someone thru a computer screen but chances are tk had a fucked up child hood, wasn’t educated, got shot (insanely traumatizing for the Brain) then basically became a mini celebrity and then watched it all crash.

Unfortunately someone like tk should’ve gone the dave chapelle route, take the money from bet buy some land in Ohio and peace out but Dave chapelle is wayyy more educated than tk and never got shot

Tk ended up around people like habibi, probably constantly filling his head with gang shit and telling him he’s a “superstar” and “can do anything”

tk problems probably just as much psychological(thoughts and words) as physiological (chemical and tissue).  Who knows what drugs he was taking on top of all this. Maybe people like nakel will take this as a warning to stop glorifying murdering and gang shit with music and grow the fuck up

[Jud Nestorkins]

What’s up with Chis Chan?



Also, FUCK TK. I hope he rots in jail.

[swanronson]

The timeline of the last decade for terry has been off, I think this goes back further than we might think. It looks like his gang banging may have been a decade in the works. Baker has a deathwish was his last part (2008). Then gets kicked off supra. Then being kicked off baker in 2018. Also, claiming he killed a cop in 2017 puts that whole quitting baker/erratic behaviour around that time. From the quality of footage he put out on Instagram over the last 2 years it’s very clear he had not skated for a very, very long time.
Honestly, im sure people around him would have tried to help him, it doesn’t make sense that they wouldn’t. So I don’t think a blame game is a productive thing right now. I just feel utter sorrow for this poor kid that passed, and also Terry’s kids, they just lost their dad.

[Blueabyssofthisss]

As someone whose been in and out of mental hospitals, to me the signs were very clear that tk is 100% deranged and capable of hurting himself/others.

I don’t think anyone should feel guilty for saying shalom or this thread. Can’t diagnose someone thru a computer screen but chances are tk had a fucked up child hood, wasn’t educated, got shot (insanely traumatizing for the Brain) then basically became a mini celebrity and then watched it all crash.

Unfortunately someone like tk should’ve gone the dave chapelle route, take the money from bet buy some land in Ohio and peace out but Dave chapelle is wayyy more educated than tk and never got shot

Tk ended up around people like habibi, probably constantly filling his head with gang shit and telling him he’s a “superstar” and “can do anything”

tk problems probably just as much psychological(thoughts and words) as physiological (chemical and tissue).  Who knows what drugs he was taking on top of all this. Maybe people like nakel will take this as a warning to stop glorifying murdering and gang shit with music and grow the fuck up

Why do we always have to compare black people to eachother

[Fhk]

like others have said..rot in prison.

[Jud Nestorkins]

What’s up with Chis Chan?



Also, FUCK TK. I hope he rots in jail.

Again what’s up with CC I haven’t watched his channel in probably 4-5 years.

[Cheshire Cat]

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What’s up with Chis Chan?



Also, FUCK TK. I hope he rots in jail.

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Again what’s up with CC I haven’t watched his channel in probably 4-5 years.

It’s a different Chris Chan. Not the skateboarder.

[Yonnycage]

Man, this shit definitely didn’t come outta left field but I can’t lie and say my buddies and I didn’t have fun with saying “shalom” and “put em in the sky” to each other on a regular basis for a while. We all feel super fucked up now for making light of something that was obviously serious.

This is a lesson in moral responsibility and compassion that we should all pay mind to heading forward. RIP Josiah what a fucked up tragedy.

[Allen.]

As cliché as it is, makes me reflect on how we all sometimes make fun of people while ignoring (or not) their mental state.

Sometimes for 160 pages.

[InfiniteSadness]

I found this thread in google after hearing about what happened. 

I watched part of Terry's 2017 "9 Club" interview last night, and imo he seems minimally like he might have bipolar disorder.  He seemed way too emotional/passionate about skate clips and stuff on there... Nothing wrong with being passionate but the way he was talking, something about it struck me as someone who had some kind of mental health imbalance going on such as bipolar mania.  I'm not sure though if I'd watched it under another context if I would have picked up on it in the same way.

I've been around other pro-skaters who've seemed kind of off in their behavior & claimed bizarre things (not in a way that I feel they're a danger to themselves or others), and it's made me wonder about the occurrences of CTE in skateboarding.   CTE, the illness that has been blamed for causing Aaron Hernandez to murder people & later on kill himself, is caused by multiple head traumas.  Most skaters hit their head at one point or another.  I'm sure most pro's have had multiple concussions and TBI's.   Couple that with the fact most pro's start skating(or now going pro) as kids or teenagers when their brains are still developing, thus making the potential damage & CTE worse than in a fully developed adult with the same injuries.

This whole situation is extremely sad.  Sending massive amounts of love & support to Josiah's family.

[Punished Skateboards]

I've been around other pro-skaters who've seemed kind of off in their behavior & claimed bizarre things (not in a way that I feel they're a danger to themselves or others), and it's made me wonder about the occurrences of CTE in skateboarding.   CTE, the illness that has been blamed for causing Aaron Hernandez to murder people & later on kill himself, is caused by multiple head traumas.  Most skaters hit their head at one point or another.  I'm sure most pro's have had multiple concussions and TBI's.   Couple that with the fact most pro's start skating(or now going pro) as kids or teenagers when their brains are still developing, thus making the potential damage & CTE worse than in a fully developed adult with the same injuries.

Was also thinking about CTE

http://pnl.bwh.harvard.edu/education/what-is/chronic-traumatic-encephalopathy/

Mood changes often involve problems with depression, irritability, loss of motivation, or suicidal thinking or behavior. Behavioral changes are typically seen as problems with impulse control which can lead to aggressive or violent behaviors, or problems with substance abuse.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/21/sports/aaron-hernandez-cte-brain.html

C.T.E. is often marked by problems with controlling aggression and impulses, and some degree of dementia, as well as mood swings, lapses in judgment and a disorganized manner.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/aaron-hernandez-suffered-from-most-severe-cte-ever-found-in-a-person-his-age/2017/11/09/fa7cd204-c57b-11e7-afe9-4f60b5a6c4a0_story.html

Aaron Hernandez suffered the most severe case of chronic traumatic encephalopathy ever discovered in a person his age, damage that would have significantly affected his decision-making, judgment and cognition, researchers at Boston University revealed at a medical conference Thursday.

[burn_to_live]

Habibis live last night at like 1:30 was interesting lol he was just in a really dark room and letting a bunch of instagram heads bash on him and then just kept saying, “that’s all yall got?”.  After 15 mins of this he just interrupts and says, “We are gonna do a candle lighting for Josiah, the LB skate community is so strong and we are gonna do a balloon launch and were gonna take a video for his family”. Then he goes and talks about how hes not made a dime off of TK and he isnt gonna talk about the case because it is still open.

[duniwayRobber]

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What’s up with Chis Chan?

Also, FUCK TK. I hope he rots in jail.

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Again what’s up with CC I haven’t watched his channel in probably 4-5 years.

Nice - after an absolute shit thread watches its protagonist accomplish the expected, bring up another mentally-unstable person to pick apart.

The last 5 pages are just a bunch of half-ass apologies. I wonder how many of the those slappers were in the Yonnie/Jarn threads screaming for someone to take actual responsibility.

No, none of you explicitly enabled TK to make this mistake, but you are guilty of parading a person's insanity around for cheap laughs. Own up to the POS moves you made inside this thread and keep the victim's name out of your mouth if you're the type who thought TK's demise was your own personal soap opera.

Pretty sick ya'll, pretty sick.

[JORNDA]

when i made this thread i honestly had no idea that this is how things would play out. incredibly sad to say the least, rip josiah.

[TwisT]

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As cliché as it is, makes me reflect on how we all sometimes make fun of people while ignoring (or not) their mental state.

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Sometimes for 160 pages.

[cherry]

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As someone whose been in and out of mental hospitals, to me the signs were very clear that tk is 100% deranged and capable of hurting himself/others.

I don’t think anyone should feel guilty for saying shalom or this thread. Can’t diagnose someone thru a computer screen but chances are tk had a fucked up child hood, wasn’t educated, got shot (insanely traumatizing for the Brain) then basically became a mini celebrity and then watched it all crash.

Unfortunately someone like tk should’ve gone the dave chapelle route, take the money from bet buy some land in Ohio and peace out but Dave chapelle is wayyy more educated than tk and never got shot

Tk ended up around people like habibi, probably constantly filling his head with gang shit and telling him he’s a “superstar” and “can do anything”

tk problems probably just as much psychological(thoughts and words) as physiological (chemical and tissue).  Who knows what drugs he was taking on top of all this. Maybe people like nakel will take this as a warning to stop glorifying murdering and gang shit with music and grow the fuck up

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Why do we always have to compare black people to eachother

Your right, I want to  think it’s more similarities of growing up in the inner city and then getting a Viacom tv show but I see and It sucks my mind goes for that comparison gotta work on that

[Hastings]

Sounds like Josiah was a beautiful human being. Sincere condolences to all that knew him.

[Miller92]

Josiah was such an awesome kid.  Super easy-going, and always and I mean always out skating.  The kind of kid that showed up to college parties with his board.  His identity was that he was a skateboarder.  Full stop. 

Terry Kennedy has ALWAYS been an annoying person.

Now Terry Kennedy is a fucking murderer. 

There is literally NOTHING that Josiah could've done to deserve his life being cut short.  This is fucking tragic to the highest degree. 

[Fuuuuuuu]

Also, claiming he killed a cop in 2017 puts that whole quitting baker/erratic behaviour around that time. From the quality of footage he put out on Instagram over the last 2 years it’s very clear he had not skated for a very, very long time.

The spokesperson says Kennedy then referenced a 2017 cop-killing incident in Whittier, CA. ... claiming the skateboarder said, "We killed ya'll in Whittier, California. We killed ya'll bitch ass."

The incident he’s referencing is this:
https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-cop-killer-blame-20180510-story.html

Really stupid of TK to try to intimidate the arresting officers by claiming shit he wasn’t a part of, but what would else would you expect from Baker’s resident minstrel act?

What’s missing in the criticism here is how skateboarding as an industry made this monster. Tony Hawk and Andrew Reynolds are just as responsible for this, They signed TK and Twaun so that they wouldn’t get slammed for racism as a bunch of white dudes appropriating rap music and style. Thing was Antwaun and Terry were clearly props to them because as soon as those dudes got into any trouble they got cut from the team whereas Greco, Beagle and Dollin got infinite second chances.

Sure Terry’s a washed up asshole & he deserves all the blame for this murder but, he didn’t learn to be this way from Slap or Habibi. He learned it from the dudes who were paying him for years who actively encouraged this kind of behavior. Reynolds and Pharell wanted to create a character on their teams that was a Juicy J or Ti that could skate. Bam wanted “Compton Ass Terry” because Brandon DiCamillos raps were too racist for an MTV audience. Everyone got what they needed out of TK and in the end nobody teaches professional athletes how to retire. That part where when you come from nothing you go back to being nothing with a ton of tax debt and a bunch of drug addictions.

[Donkey Lips]

Haven’t followed every recent post but could somebody let us know if there’s a gofundme or any way for those of us outside Chicago to give some support either to his family or in his memory. Be great to have it stickied in a sep thread.

[Cheshire Cat]

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Also, claiming he killed a cop in 2017 puts that whole quitting baker/erratic behaviour around that time. From the quality of footage he put out on Instagram over the last 2 years it’s very clear he had not skated for a very, very long time.

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The spokesperson says Kennedy then referenced a 2017 cop-killing incident in Whittier, CA. ... claiming the skateboarder said, "We killed ya'll in Whittier, California. We killed ya'll bitch ass."

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The incident he’s referencing is this:
https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-cop-killer-blame-20180510-story.html

Really stupid of TK to try to intimidate the arresting officers by claiming shit he wasn’t a part of, but what would else would you expect from Baker’s resident minstrel act?

What’s missing in the criticism here is how skateboarding as an industry made this monster. Tony Hawk and Andrew Reynolds are just as responsible for this, They signed TK and Twaun so that they wouldn’t get slammed for racism as a bunch of white dudes appropriating rap music and style. Thing was Antwaun and Terry were clearly props to them because as soon as those dudes got into any trouble they got cut from the team whereas Greco, Beagle and Dollin got infinite second chances.

Sure Terry’s a washed up asshole & he deserves all the blame for this murder but, he didn’t learn to be this way from Slap or Habibi. He learned it from the dudes who were paying him for years who actively encouraged this kind of behavior. Reynolds and Pharell wanted to create a character on their teams that was a Juicy J or Ti that could skate. Bam wanted “Compton Ass Terry” because Brandon DiCamillos raps were too racist for an MTV audience. Everyone got what they needed out of TK and in the end nobody teaches professional athletes how to retire. That part where when you come from nothing you go back to being nothing with a ton of tax debt and a bunch of drug addictions.

You make some good points, like post-sports career athletes not given much direction or help but saying that Tony Hawk (for some reason) and Reynolds et al surrounding Terry at the prime time of his career are just as responsible for this is not true.


Those who benefited from his personal branding and amplification of it/ his persona did not in any way teach him this behaviour. What you’re saying isn’t the same level as Cole getting sent Bodom gear and black hair dye, you’re saying that that they encouraged / taught Terry to……what exactly? Beat other humans to death? Who at Shorty’s should we blame for Muska’s drunken racist public nuisance incident a few years back?


It is not their fault that this happened.

It’s one thing to say that they didn’t help someone enough, it’s another to apportion blame equally to, in this case, the murderer.
Terry Kennedy did not learn the behaviour of beating someone so violently that they end up dead from his team managers, mentors and contemporaries.