Insoles?

[snowman600]

I’ve been debating on getting some orthotic insoles, something to help with leg length discrepancy, but I’m not really sure what the best option would be.
After fracturing my pelvis a few years back, it healed but left me with about a quarter inch of difference in height between my right and left leg.
Anyone have any recommendations? I know this is more of a medical issue than just discomfort but surgery isn’t really an option for me and I’d like to find just a modicum of relief and evenness while walking.

I would definitely recommend a pair of orthotics for a leg length discrepancy. They'll likely come with a small heel lift on one side to offset the difference (3-6mm), oftentimes the lift is affixed to the orthotic but you can also request a removable one.

[Nom De Plume]

Just got back from the podiatrist and figured I'd share. Sorry so long, hopefully some of this info is helpful. Those links are insane.

Was mostly a preventative visit to inquire about insoles and footwear. I've been getting tolerable pain on the transverse arches of my feet but thankfully have no name brand foot ailments. As we age the fat pads on the bottoms of our feet shrink so we have less natural cushioning, which is my situation. I'm 46. And a half.

Doc was younger and a swell guy, said he used to skate. Said that for foot health in skateboarding cupsole shoes with thicker soles are best. You know, like Osiris or DC, and proceeded to pull up some bulky ass mall DC's online. I didn't have the heart to tell him that in 2025 the streets will not wear this. But I get what he's saying.

I brought in my skate and gym shoes for him to scrutinize. He said most shoes come with trash "cardboard" insoles like my Adidas Puigs. Definitely replace insoles like that. He agrees it's nuts companies get away with skimping on this, it's like they didn't finish making the shoe. I showed him some old Foot Print Insoles I had and he was like, oh these are weird, memory foam.... He would not recommend..(Edit: These FPs are 7 years old, so this doesn't account for anything current)  My gym shoes, New Balance MXCTRLR1 Fresh Foams, got approved of course. Ewww.

Gave me a handout with preferred shoe companies and recommended insoles currently available on Amazon. They ain't cheap. Also sent me home with some metatarsal pads to help absorb some impact on that part of the foot. Can always explore custom insoles as well. Lists and links at the bottom.

This part was kinda surprising. Apparently we're not supposed to walk around the house barefoot all the time. We evolved to walk on grass, dirt, gravel, etc but not hard, flat surfaces. So just walking around the house really beats up your feet. Recommends sandals or slippers for the house. Said Crocs are horrible.

Be advised this is one person's experience with one doctor so YMMV. Doc said everyone's feet are different and no one's are perfect, listen to your body of course. He was wearing Brooks. If anyone has differing info or additional podiatrist approved brands I'd be stoked to hear about it. Saw Superfeet getting love in here. I'll report back once I try out some insoles.



Footwear Reqs
Shoes should only flex front to back from the toe side, you should not be able to taco the sole.
Shoes should not easily twist torsionally, the sole should be stable.
Shoes should have a firm spine and cup around the heel area 

Recommended Shoe Brands
Brooks
Asics
New Balance
Saucony
Oofos - Doc was surprised by this and owns some
Birkenstock - Got honorable mention. He likes them but can't speak to longevity because they are made of cork. If they work for you go for it. Loving my Arizonas, 9 months old and get worn almost everyday.

Links to Insoles

Spenco Max Support - Thicker
https://www.amazon.com/Spenco-Support-Insoles-11-12-5-10-11-5/dp/B008CJNTI6/ref=sr_1_1?crid=150V9U3MP1PX6&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.5LBvKz4IViKAI_h8u8w7wIBi77TRJCdGXMAqdAnON0ls1e8CjBkB4MTXlla_6kC7WCRh0_wWPTcDdFlRsQ_lu_WkXkUXe-k5NwYVncHqvPverhorCa2pmDMXy6VYa43CRyjJY7lvVUJTaOSGIVueAJpJchJ3C08xXRBaRCEYkg5FrKGBm3LwtSZ8epSltOV2Oyo5Rq2br79-Ds2T3KHcNC7DYSmrfmyNi5TooWDno0F8CsqgW8mFhD_KROBVwtT4NNCpWrjWlzP8K9rtZND8O7NXi7kWcd3xGz-A8chV12E.EAx0WBqf3wCmp2HziABIDKnSDmoblL46GwadJIv4-FI&dib_tag=se&keywords=spenco%2Bmax%2Bsupport&qid=1766090036&sprefix=spenco%2Bmax%2Bsuppor%2Caps%2C292&sr=8-1&th=1

Powerstep Protech - Slimmer
https://www.amazon.com/Powerstep-Protech-Control-Insoles-6-6-5/dp/B006C6PFI8/ref=sr_1_7?crid=RG3O0PT59ABZ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.TXf_gHIqrnFNX7EbK3RT91aKKWFhLqZWBxKMvKVL_6GTphBZOeNGvUz4xbkYqsrS_mXTl-Z43_hYvChB1Jsj-8Kcrmqdl5gVjgB4bGRzLx7qny08aTDLr26gx7J021_3uMdoAdWICKkBReVXffWISBNYvBtJBBRk4IUH0zDt5kQ13KwjP6unpt_dUfnQwRBHAo80AZLAM8zZ5gyuYiTDCe7L4-uz9EvLX4MfEkqGUjTEpU6zx66V1g28qt_i_ddnuKkfd1YKoo-4nzR7lEkVCJYJgBU7s4YT933doBfVL-Q.h5o2aABQlmvh1NPcqpEckKy2Z_6HlWAqCMIabbdjPSE&dib_tag=se&keywords=powerstep%2Bprotech&qid=1766160830&sprefix=powerstep%2Bprotech%2Caps%2C215&sr=8-7&th=1

Redithotics - Slimmer, maybe on some ho shit
https://www.amazon.com/Redi-Thotics-Flex-Orthotic-Insoles-Size/dp/B002OQWMRW/ref=sr_1_6?crid=SXDM0DX7E4GT&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.4yRVBASeoYhuv1GamaQULzbPHVsF16dZ-ECYqcdJysOcW5naGLOjmRRLMqRlywRKE6ON0516E_GZi-t1HuaeAdHoOc9CN8vo3uihs9JOWhkxGImIkjg_I-wcrf8RyAB39ZT1Vgsl3rCAydBxkiXcHBLb-jbECj0CUPeOwD5D9MXUgGKEtj2xSNMza8s6RRihVBwObk4GhLE_K3igiJR2yjeHR8TucRAjgQTIEgPacUS1TYW30eNgSAgl4nA6RP3h719vDednDL_BlC8SgliF_lmedV5gmSoFtZNLEnD5pq4.mqGNsjiK1ZuIrMIYU0W_MF353ambbiRwFGjOX7N7V04&dib_tag=se&keywords=redithotics&qid=1766089799&sprefix=redithotics%2Caps%2C388&sr=8-6&th=1&psc=1

Metatarsal Pads
https://www.amazon.com/Metatarsal-Cushions-Metatarsalgia-Forefoot-Support/dp/B0DKVB1GHF/ref=sr_1_7?adgrpid=187997797124&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.iW8LruRnBkeXX649LYcHOYz1j9M9eRfxqvC0gDlg-QnocdTu1ygiouI9y5wM0XefgORdEyfmgaUxmKfIuSXtuujp0t01VgYE7rfQNUQohh-QeU1YChb4anCotzwZE-iI2DpI2hQdJqBdCxCkqlbVbphSGJdZKqf254g6_fz9fWynqY9GEnwsb58Qy8e5-EEducDWedC9iGHfkMI-ftc5qkugWw2Iwqw3WLyNrWYK3HqNj-EH_M1u1T44n5YcUbBh2quI_ouqj4m2pNkbCvujc3AKzAlhfVSukhfszIS5XNw.23yvSvco5sY6UnZnKXAYeiZnAnrf64gB1DXzyWazgJ8&dib_tag=se&hvadid=779546870598&hvdev=c&hvexpln=0&hvlocphy=9021704&hvnetw=g&hvocijid=2781458850721114757--&hvqmt=e&hvrand=2781458850721114757&hvtargid=kwd-318648208467&hydadcr=7471_13294108_2063941&keywords=metatarsal%2Bpads%2Bamazon&mcid=8dd68a8eec003b09a483bd7035775942&qid=1766089558&sr=8-7&th=1

Edit: Fixed link to Powerstep insoles and noted FPs shown to doc are a way older model.

[Slave IV]

Just got back from the podiatrist and figured I'd share. Sorry so long, hopefully some of this info is helpful. Those links are insane.

Was mostly a preventative visit to inquire about insoles and footwear. I've been getting tolerable pain on the transverse arches of my feet but thankfully have no name brand foot ailments. As we age the fat pads on the bottoms of our feet shrink so we have less natural cushioning, which is my situation. I'm 46. And a half.

Doc was younger and a swell guy, said he used to skate. Said that for foot health in skateboarding cupsole shoes with thicker soles are best. You know, like Osiris or DC, and proceeded to pull up some bulky ass mall DC's online. I didn't have the heart to tell him that in 2025 the streets will not wear this. But I get what he's saying.

I brought in my skate and gym shoes for him to scrutinize. He said most shoes come with trash "cardboard" insoles like my Adidas Puigs. Definitely replace insoles like that. He agrees it's nuts companies get away with skimping on this, it's like they didn't finish making the shoe. I showed him some old Foot Print Insoles I had and he was like, oh these are weird, memory foam.... He would not recommend. My gym shoes, New Balance MXCTRLR1 Fresh Foams, got approved of course. Ewww.

Gave me a handout with preferred shoe companies and recommended insoles currently available on Amazon. They ain't cheap. Also sent me home with some metatarsal pads to help absorb some impact on that part of the foot. Can always explore custom insoles as well. Lists and links at the bottom.

This part was kinda surprising. Apparently we're not supposed to walk around the house barefoot all the time. We evolved to walk on grass, dirt, gravel, etc but not hard, flat surfaces. So just walking around the house really beats up your feet. Recommends sandals or slippers for the house. Said Crocs are horrible.

Be advised this is one person's experience with one doctor so YMMV. Doc said everyone's feet are different and no one's are perfect, listen to your body of course. He was wearing Brooks. If anyone has differing info or additional podiatrist approved brands I'd be stoked to hear about it. Saw Superfeet getting love in here. I'll report back once I try out some insoles.



Footwear Reqs
Shoes should only flex front to back from the toe side, you should not be able to taco the sole.
Shoes should not easily twist torsionally, the sole should be stable.
Shoes should have a firm spine and cup around the heel area 

Recommended Shoe Brands
Brooks
Asics
New Balance
Saucony
Oofos - Doc was surprised by this and owns some
Birkenstock - Got honorable mention. He likes them but can't speak to longevity because they are made of cork. If they work for you go for it. Loving my Arizonas, 9 months old and get worn almost everyday.

Links to Insoles

Spenco Max Support - Thicker
https://www.amazon.com/Spenco-Support-Insoles-11-12-5-10-11-5/dp/B008CJNTI6/ref=sr_1_1?crid=150V9U3MP1PX6&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.5LBvKz4IViKAI_h8u8w7wIBi77TRJCdGXMAqdAnON0ls1e8CjBkB4MTXlla_6kC7WCRh0_wWPTcDdFlRsQ_lu_WkXkUXe-k5NwYVncHqvPverhorCa2pmDMXy6VYa43CRyjJY7lvVUJTaOSGIVueAJpJchJ3C08xXRBaRCEYkg5FrKGBm3LwtSZ8epSltOV2Oyo5Rq2br79-Ds2T3KHcNC7DYSmrfmyNi5TooWDno0F8CsqgW8mFhD_KROBVwtT4NNCpWrjWlzP8K9rtZND8O7NXi7kWcd3xGz-A8chV12E.EAx0WBqf3wCmp2HziABIDKnSDmoblL46GwadJIv4-FI&dib_tag=se&keywords=spenco%2Bmax%2Bsupport&qid=1766090036&sprefix=spenco%2Bmax%2Bsuppor%2Caps%2C292&sr=8-1&th=1

Powerstep Protech - Slimmer
https://www.amazon.com/PowerStep-Cushioning-Standing-Supports-Metatarsal/dp/B00GWU886A/ref=sxin_23_pa_sp_search_thematic_sspa?adgrpid=184161483537&content-id=amzn1.sym.ba55dbba-ad36-4ff5-87ba-ee4a4f384cb5%3Aamzn1.sym.ba55dbba-ad36-4ff5-87ba-ee4a4f384cb5&cv_ct_cx=powerstep%2Bprotech&hvadid=779703006652&hvdev=c&hvexpln=0&hvlocphy=9021704&hvnetw=g&hvocijid=12011254300227944250--&hvqmt=e&hvrand=12011254300227944250&hvtargid=kwd-6629312153&hydadcr=20001_13697692_2339046&keywords=powerstep%2Bprotech&mcid=086b84f8c3bc37108f564f7cf436f195&pd_rd_i=B00GWU886A&pd_rd_r=9cc6ebda-a725-415d-a568-4266fddd3c52&pd_rd_w=LCXO1&pd_rd_wg=lX5fU&pf_rd_p=ba55dbba-ad36-4ff5-87ba-ee4a4f384cb5&pf_rd_r=QJP3MC0EX3V7S9VZHMYM&qid=1766089362&sbo=RZvfv%2F%2FHxDF%2BO5021pAnSA%3D%3D&sr=1-2-e169343e-09af-4d41-85b1-8335fe8f32d0-spons&aref=knra3fdIE5&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9zZWFyY2hfdGhlbWF0aWM&th=1&psc=1

Redithotics - Slimmer, maybe on some ho shit
https://www.amazon.com/Redi-Thotics-Flex-Orthotic-Insoles-Size/dp/B002OQWMRW/ref=sr_1_6?crid=SXDM0DX7E4GT&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.4yRVBASeoYhuv1GamaQULzbPHVsF16dZ-ECYqcdJysOcW5naGLOjmRRLMqRlywRKE6ON0516E_GZi-t1HuaeAdHoOc9CN8vo3uihs9JOWhkxGImIkjg_I-wcrf8RyAB39ZT1Vgsl3rCAydBxkiXcHBLb-jbECj0CUPeOwD5D9MXUgGKEtj2xSNMza8s6RRihVBwObk4GhLE_K3igiJR2yjeHR8TucRAjgQTIEgPacUS1TYW30eNgSAgl4nA6RP3h719vDednDL_BlC8SgliF_lmedV5gmSoFtZNLEnD5pq4.mqGNsjiK1ZuIrMIYU0W_MF353ambbiRwFGjOX7N7V04&dib_tag=se&keywords=redithotics&qid=1766089799&sprefix=redithotics%2Caps%2C388&sr=8-6&th=1&psc=1

Metatarsal Pads
https://www.amazon.com/Metatarsal-Cushions-Metatarsalgia-Forefoot-Support/dp/B0DKVB1GHF/ref=sr_1_7?adgrpid=187997797124&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.iW8LruRnBkeXX649LYcHOYz1j9M9eRfxqvC0gDlg-QnocdTu1ygiouI9y5wM0XefgORdEyfmgaUxmKfIuSXtuujp0t01VgYE7rfQNUQohh-QeU1YChb4anCotzwZE-iI2DpI2hQdJqBdCxCkqlbVbphSGJdZKqf254g6_fz9fWynqY9GEnwsb58Qy8e5-EEducDWedC9iGHfkMI-ftc5qkugWw2Iwqw3WLyNrWYK3HqNj-EH_M1u1T44n5YcUbBh2quI_ouqj4m2pNkbCvujc3AKzAlhfVSukhfszIS5XNw.23yvSvco5sY6UnZnKXAYeiZnAnrf64gB1DXzyWazgJ8&dib_tag=se&hvadid=779546870598&hvdev=c&hvexpln=0&hvlocphy=9021704&hvnetw=g&hvocijid=2781458850721114757--&hvqmt=e&hvrand=2781458850721114757&hvtargid=kwd-318648208467&hydadcr=7471_13294108_2063941&keywords=metatarsal%2Bpads%2Bamazon&mcid=8dd68a8eec003b09a483bd7035775942&qid=1766089558&sr=8-7&th=1

Sounds like the doctor had some good feedback that I overall agree with. As for FP insoles, I think he just doesn't know what they are because they are not just weird memory foam. For the barefoot thing, also agree that our bare feet are designed for contoured ground but I don't think it's as simple as he says. I know for a fact that barefoot shoes have helped my overall foot health and strength and the key is having some protection and padding from the elements, including flat ground but letting your foot flex as naturally intended.

I used to only wear cupsule, super tech shoes with a bunch of marketing about how great their cushioning or padding is. I'm pretty sure what that did was turn my feet into soft, pampered bitches in a sense, that they were basically frail and easily susceptible to damage and injury. Ever since I switched to more barefoot style footwear, including and especially Vibram Five Fingers, those stupid looking finger sock looking shoes, my feet have become healthier, stronger, and the pain I used to get like you described is gone. All because I'm using the natural flex of the foot and walking/running the way they are designed to. Now, that is for normal activity, including walking, hiking, etc. For high impact activity like skateboarding, I still think you need more support and shock absorption. From my experience with the last several skate shoes I've had, cupsule or vulc doesn't matter as long as you have an insole that provides the right support and shock absorption and of course, a nice fit. My current shoes have a barely few mm of outsole, midsole is literally a piece of fabric to hold it together and I replaced the shit insole with an FP Gamechanger that molds to my foot shape and provides arch support and it works great with no pain from any landing impact.

I'm no doctor so it's just my experience but I think people should do their own research on what makes sense and works for them and don't listen to anyone, including doctors, blindly.

[Nom De Plume]

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Just got back from the podiatrist and figured I'd share. Sorry so long, hopefully some of this info is helpful. Those links are insane.

Was mostly a preventative visit to inquire about insoles and footwear. I've been getting tolerable pain on the transverse arches of my feet but thankfully have no name brand foot ailments. As we age the fat pads on the bottoms of our feet shrink so we have less natural cushioning, which is my situation. I'm 46. And a half.

Doc was younger and a swell guy, said he used to skate. Said that for foot health in skateboarding cupsole shoes with thicker soles are best. You know, like Osiris or DC, and proceeded to pull up some bulky ass mall DC's online. I didn't have the heart to tell him that in 2025 the streets will not wear this. But I get what he's saying.

I brought in my skate and gym shoes for him to scrutinize. He said most shoes come with trash "cardboard" insoles like my Adidas Puigs. Definitely replace insoles like that. He agrees it's nuts companies get away with skimping on this, it's like they didn't finish making the shoe. I showed him some old Foot Print Insoles I had and he was like, oh these are weird, memory foam.... He would not recommend. My gym shoes, New Balance MXCTRLR1 Fresh Foams, got approved of course. Ewww.

Gave me a handout with preferred shoe companies and recommended insoles currently available on Amazon. They ain't cheap. Also sent me home with some metatarsal pads to help absorb some impact on that part of the foot. Can always explore custom insoles as well. Lists and links at the bottom.

This part was kinda surprising. Apparently we're not supposed to walk around the house barefoot all the time. We evolved to walk on grass, dirt, gravel, etc but not hard, flat surfaces. So just walking around the house really beats up your feet. Recommends sandals or slippers for the house. Said Crocs are horrible.

Be advised this is one person's experience with one doctor so YMMV. Doc said everyone's feet are different and no one's are perfect, listen to your body of course. He was wearing Brooks. If anyone has differing info or additional podiatrist approved brands I'd be stoked to hear about it. Saw Superfeet getting love in here. I'll report back once I try out some insoles.



Footwear Reqs
Shoes should only flex front to back from the toe side, you should not be able to taco the sole.
Shoes should not easily twist torsionally, the sole should be stable.
Shoes should have a firm spine and cup around the heel area 

Recommended Shoe Brands
Brooks
Asics
New Balance
Saucony
Oofos - Doc was surprised by this and owns some
Birkenstock - Got honorable mention. He likes them but can't speak to longevity because they are made of cork. If they work for you go for it. Loving my Arizonas, 9 months old and get worn almost everyday.

Links to Insoles

Spenco Max Support - Thicker
https://www.amazon.com/Spenco-Support-Insoles-11-12-5-10-11-5/dp/B008CJNTI6/ref=sr_1_1?crid=150V9U3MP1PX6&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.5LBvKz4IViKAI_h8u8w7wIBi77TRJCdGXMAqdAnON0ls1e8CjBkB4MTXlla_6kC7WCRh0_wWPTcDdFlRsQ_lu_WkXkUXe-k5NwYVncHqvPverhorCa2pmDMXy6VYa43CRyjJY7lvVUJTaOSGIVueAJpJchJ3C08xXRBaRCEYkg5FrKGBm3LwtSZ8epSltOV2Oyo5Rq2br79-Ds2T3KHcNC7DYSmrfmyNi5TooWDno0F8CsqgW8mFhD_KROBVwtT4NNCpWrjWlzP8K9rtZND8O7NXi7kWcd3xGz-A8chV12E.EAx0WBqf3wCmp2HziABIDKnSDmoblL46GwadJIv4-FI&dib_tag=se&keywords=spenco%2Bmax%2Bsupport&qid=1766090036&sprefix=spenco%2Bmax%2Bsuppor%2Caps%2C292&sr=8-1&th=1

Powerstep Protech - Slimmer
https://www.amazon.com/PowerStep-Cushioning-Standing-Supports-Metatarsal/dp/B00GWU886A/ref=sxin_23_pa_sp_search_thematic_sspa?adgrpid=184161483537&content-id=amzn1.sym.ba55dbba-ad36-4ff5-87ba-ee4a4f384cb5%3Aamzn1.sym.ba55dbba-ad36-4ff5-87ba-ee4a4f384cb5&cv_ct_cx=powerstep%2Bprotech&hvadid=779703006652&hvdev=c&hvexpln=0&hvlocphy=9021704&hvnetw=g&hvocijid=12011254300227944250--&hvqmt=e&hvrand=12011254300227944250&hvtargid=kwd-6629312153&hydadcr=20001_13697692_2339046&keywords=powerstep%2Bprotech&mcid=086b84f8c3bc37108f564f7cf436f195&pd_rd_i=B00GWU886A&pd_rd_r=9cc6ebda-a725-415d-a568-4266fddd3c52&pd_rd_w=LCXO1&pd_rd_wg=lX5fU&pf_rd_p=ba55dbba-ad36-4ff5-87ba-ee4a4f384cb5&pf_rd_r=QJP3MC0EX3V7S9VZHMYM&qid=1766089362&sbo=RZvfv%2F%2FHxDF%2BO5021pAnSA%3D%3D&sr=1-2-e169343e-09af-4d41-85b1-8335fe8f32d0-spons&aref=knra3fdIE5&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9zZWFyY2hfdGhlbWF0aWM&th=1&psc=1

Redithotics - Slimmer, maybe on some ho shit
https://www.amazon.com/Redi-Thotics-Flex-Orthotic-Insoles-Size/dp/B002OQWMRW/ref=sr_1_6?crid=SXDM0DX7E4GT&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.4yRVBASeoYhuv1GamaQULzbPHVsF16dZ-ECYqcdJysOcW5naGLOjmRRLMqRlywRKE6ON0516E_GZi-t1HuaeAdHoOc9CN8vo3uihs9JOWhkxGImIkjg_I-wcrf8RyAB39ZT1Vgsl3rCAydBxkiXcHBLb-jbECj0CUPeOwD5D9MXUgGKEtj2xSNMza8s6RRihVBwObk4GhLE_K3igiJR2yjeHR8TucRAjgQTIEgPacUS1TYW30eNgSAgl4nA6RP3h719vDednDL_BlC8SgliF_lmedV5gmSoFtZNLEnD5pq4.mqGNsjiK1ZuIrMIYU0W_MF353ambbiRwFGjOX7N7V04&dib_tag=se&keywords=redithotics&qid=1766089799&sprefix=redithotics%2Caps%2C388&sr=8-6&th=1&psc=1

Metatarsal Pads
https://www.amazon.com/Metatarsal-Cushions-Metatarsalgia-Forefoot-Support/dp/B0DKVB1GHF/ref=sr_1_7?adgrpid=187997797124&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.iW8LruRnBkeXX649LYcHOYz1j9M9eRfxqvC0gDlg-QnocdTu1ygiouI9y5wM0XefgORdEyfmgaUxmKfIuSXtuujp0t01VgYE7rfQNUQohh-QeU1YChb4anCotzwZE-iI2DpI2hQdJqBdCxCkqlbVbphSGJdZKqf254g6_fz9fWynqY9GEnwsb58Qy8e5-EEducDWedC9iGHfkMI-ftc5qkugWw2Iwqw3WLyNrWYK3HqNj-EH_M1u1T44n5YcUbBh2quI_ouqj4m2pNkbCvujc3AKzAlhfVSukhfszIS5XNw.23yvSvco5sY6UnZnKXAYeiZnAnrf64gB1DXzyWazgJ8&dib_tag=se&hvadid=779546870598&hvdev=c&hvexpln=0&hvlocphy=9021704&hvnetw=g&hvocijid=2781458850721114757--&hvqmt=e&hvrand=2781458850721114757&hvtargid=kwd-318648208467&hydadcr=7471_13294108_2063941&keywords=metatarsal%2Bpads%2Bamazon&mcid=8dd68a8eec003b09a483bd7035775942&qid=1766089558&sr=8-7&th=1

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Sounds like the doctor had some good feedback that I overall agree with. As for FP insoles, I think he just doesn't know what they are because they are not just weird memory foam. For the barefoot thing, also agree that our bare feet are designed for contoured ground but I don't think it's as simple as he says. I know for a fact that barefoot shoes have helped my overall foot health and strength and the key is having some protection and padding from the elements, including flat ground but letting your foot flex as naturally intended.

I used to only wear cupsule, super tech shoes with a bunch of marketing about how great their cushioning or padding is. I'm pretty sure what that did was turn my feet into soft, pampered bitches in a sense, that they were basically frail and easily susceptible to damage and injury. Ever since I switched to more barefoot style footwear, including and especially Vibram Five Fingers, those stupid looking finger sock looking shoes, my feet have become healthier, stronger, and the pain I used to get like you described is gone. All because I'm using the natural flex of the foot and walking/running the way they are designed to. Now, that is for normal activity, including walking, hiking, etc. For high impact activity like skateboarding, I still think you need more support and shock absorption. From my experience with the last several skate shoes I've had, cupsule or vulc doesn't matter as long as you have an insole that provides the right support and shock absorption and of course, a nice fit. My current shoes have a barely few mm of outsole, midsole is literally a piece of fabric to hold it together and I replaced the shit insole with an FP Gamechanger that molds to my foot shape and provides arch support and it works great with no pain from any landing impact.

I'm no doctor so it's just my experience but I think people should do their own research on what makes sense and works for them and don't listen to anyone, including doctors, blindly.

Say word. Appreciate you weighing in, agreed you gotta find what works for you. Your experience with different styles of shoe working with the right insole gives me hope. Edited the post to note those FPs are not a current production model. I'll still use them to replace some flim flam stock ones.

The barefoot thing is wild. I have a buddy who does 60 mile backpacking trips in Wyoming with 1000s and 1000s of feet of elevations change, often off trail. Switched to barefoot style shoes and said it changed his life. I have friends who work 12+ hour production days swearing by those 5 Finger Vibrams. Gotta dig in on these. But man, the streets.......

[Slave IV]

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Just got back from the podiatrist and figured I'd share. Sorry so long, hopefully some of this info is helpful. Those links are insane.

Was mostly a preventative visit to inquire about insoles and footwear. I've been getting tolerable pain on the transverse arches of my feet but thankfully have no name brand foot ailments. As we age the fat pads on the bottoms of our feet shrink so we have less natural cushioning, which is my situation. I'm 46. And a half.

Doc was younger and a swell guy, said he used to skate. Said that for foot health in skateboarding cupsole shoes with thicker soles are best. You know, like Osiris or DC, and proceeded to pull up some bulky ass mall DC's online. I didn't have the heart to tell him that in 2025 the streets will not wear this. But I get what he's saying.

I brought in my skate and gym shoes for him to scrutinize. He said most shoes come with trash "cardboard" insoles like my Adidas Puigs. Definitely replace insoles like that. He agrees it's nuts companies get away with skimping on this, it's like they didn't finish making the shoe. I showed him some old Foot Print Insoles I had and he was like, oh these are weird, memory foam.... He would not recommend. My gym shoes, New Balance MXCTRLR1 Fresh Foams, got approved of course. Ewww.

Gave me a handout with preferred shoe companies and recommended insoles currently available on Amazon. They ain't cheap. Also sent me home with some metatarsal pads to help absorb some impact on that part of the foot. Can always explore custom insoles as well. Lists and links at the bottom.

This part was kinda surprising. Apparently we're not supposed to walk around the house barefoot all the time. We evolved to walk on grass, dirt, gravel, etc but not hard, flat surfaces. So just walking around the house really beats up your feet. Recommends sandals or slippers for the house. Said Crocs are horrible.

Be advised this is one person's experience with one doctor so YMMV. Doc said everyone's feet are different and no one's are perfect, listen to your body of course. He was wearing Brooks. If anyone has differing info or additional podiatrist approved brands I'd be stoked to hear about it. Saw Superfeet getting love in here. I'll report back once I try out some insoles.



Footwear Reqs
Shoes should only flex front to back from the toe side, you should not be able to taco the sole.
Shoes should not easily twist torsionally, the sole should be stable.
Shoes should have a firm spine and cup around the heel area 

Recommended Shoe Brands
Brooks
Asics
New Balance
Saucony
Oofos - Doc was surprised by this and owns some
Birkenstock - Got honorable mention. He likes them but can't speak to longevity because they are made of cork. If they work for you go for it. Loving my Arizonas, 9 months old and get worn almost everyday.

Links to Insoles

Spenco Max Support - Thicker
https://www.amazon.com/Spenco-Support-Insoles-11-12-5-10-11-5/dp/B008CJNTI6/ref=sr_1_1?crid=150V9U3MP1PX6&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.5LBvKz4IViKAI_h8u8w7wIBi77TRJCdGXMAqdAnON0ls1e8CjBkB4MTXlla_6kC7WCRh0_wWPTcDdFlRsQ_lu_WkXkUXe-k5NwYVncHqvPverhorCa2pmDMXy6VYa43CRyjJY7lvVUJTaOSGIVueAJpJchJ3C08xXRBaRCEYkg5FrKGBm3LwtSZ8epSltOV2Oyo5Rq2br79-Ds2T3KHcNC7DYSmrfmyNi5TooWDno0F8CsqgW8mFhD_KROBVwtT4NNCpWrjWlzP8K9rtZND8O7NXi7kWcd3xGz-A8chV12E.EAx0WBqf3wCmp2HziABIDKnSDmoblL46GwadJIv4-FI&dib_tag=se&keywords=spenco%2Bmax%2Bsupport&qid=1766090036&sprefix=spenco%2Bmax%2Bsuppor%2Caps%2C292&sr=8-1&th=1

Powerstep Protech - Slimmer
https://www.amazon.com/PowerStep-Cushioning-Standing-Supports-Metatarsal/dp/B00GWU886A/ref=sxin_23_pa_sp_search_thematic_sspa?adgrpid=184161483537&content-id=amzn1.sym.ba55dbba-ad36-4ff5-87ba-ee4a4f384cb5%3Aamzn1.sym.ba55dbba-ad36-4ff5-87ba-ee4a4f384cb5&cv_ct_cx=powerstep%2Bprotech&hvadid=779703006652&hvdev=c&hvexpln=0&hvlocphy=9021704&hvnetw=g&hvocijid=12011254300227944250--&hvqmt=e&hvrand=12011254300227944250&hvtargid=kwd-6629312153&hydadcr=20001_13697692_2339046&keywords=powerstep%2Bprotech&mcid=086b84f8c3bc37108f564f7cf436f195&pd_rd_i=B00GWU886A&pd_rd_r=9cc6ebda-a725-415d-a568-4266fddd3c52&pd_rd_w=LCXO1&pd_rd_wg=lX5fU&pf_rd_p=ba55dbba-ad36-4ff5-87ba-ee4a4f384cb5&pf_rd_r=QJP3MC0EX3V7S9VZHMYM&qid=1766089362&sbo=RZvfv%2F%2FHxDF%2BO5021pAnSA%3D%3D&sr=1-2-e169343e-09af-4d41-85b1-8335fe8f32d0-spons&aref=knra3fdIE5&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9zZWFyY2hfdGhlbWF0aWM&th=1&psc=1

Redithotics - Slimmer, maybe on some ho shit
https://www.amazon.com/Redi-Thotics-Flex-Orthotic-Insoles-Size/dp/B002OQWMRW/ref=sr_1_6?crid=SXDM0DX7E4GT&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.4yRVBASeoYhuv1GamaQULzbPHVsF16dZ-ECYqcdJysOcW5naGLOjmRRLMqRlywRKE6ON0516E_GZi-t1HuaeAdHoOc9CN8vo3uihs9JOWhkxGImIkjg_I-wcrf8RyAB39ZT1Vgsl3rCAydBxkiXcHBLb-jbECj0CUPeOwD5D9MXUgGKEtj2xSNMza8s6RRihVBwObk4GhLE_K3igiJR2yjeHR8TucRAjgQTIEgPacUS1TYW30eNgSAgl4nA6RP3h719vDednDL_BlC8SgliF_lmedV5gmSoFtZNLEnD5pq4.mqGNsjiK1ZuIrMIYU0W_MF353ambbiRwFGjOX7N7V04&dib_tag=se&keywords=redithotics&qid=1766089799&sprefix=redithotics%2Caps%2C388&sr=8-6&th=1&psc=1

Metatarsal Pads
https://www.amazon.com/Metatarsal-Cushions-Metatarsalgia-Forefoot-Support/dp/B0DKVB1GHF/ref=sr_1_7?adgrpid=187997797124&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.iW8LruRnBkeXX649LYcHOYz1j9M9eRfxqvC0gDlg-QnocdTu1ygiouI9y5wM0XefgORdEyfmgaUxmKfIuSXtuujp0t01VgYE7rfQNUQohh-QeU1YChb4anCotzwZE-iI2DpI2hQdJqBdCxCkqlbVbphSGJdZKqf254g6_fz9fWynqY9GEnwsb58Qy8e5-EEducDWedC9iGHfkMI-ftc5qkugWw2Iwqw3WLyNrWYK3HqNj-EH_M1u1T44n5YcUbBh2quI_ouqj4m2pNkbCvujc3AKzAlhfVSukhfszIS5XNw.23yvSvco5sY6UnZnKXAYeiZnAnrf64gB1DXzyWazgJ8&dib_tag=se&hvadid=779546870598&hvdev=c&hvexpln=0&hvlocphy=9021704&hvnetw=g&hvocijid=2781458850721114757--&hvqmt=e&hvrand=2781458850721114757&hvtargid=kwd-318648208467&hydadcr=7471_13294108_2063941&keywords=metatarsal%2Bpads%2Bamazon&mcid=8dd68a8eec003b09a483bd7035775942&qid=1766089558&sr=8-7&th=1

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Sounds like the doctor had some good feedback that I overall agree with. As for FP insoles, I think he just doesn't know what they are because they are not just weird memory foam. For the barefoot thing, also agree that our bare feet are designed for contoured ground but I don't think it's as simple as he says. I know for a fact that barefoot shoes have helped my overall foot health and strength and the key is having some protection and padding from the elements, including flat ground but letting your foot flex as naturally intended.

I used to only wear cupsule, super tech shoes with a bunch of marketing about how great their cushioning or padding is. I'm pretty sure what that did was turn my feet into soft, pampered bitches in a sense, that they were basically frail and easily susceptible to damage and injury. Ever since I switched to more barefoot style footwear, including and especially Vibram Five Fingers, those stupid looking finger sock looking shoes, my feet have become healthier, stronger, and the pain I used to get like you described is gone. All because I'm using the natural flex of the foot and walking/running the way they are designed to. Now, that is for normal activity, including walking, hiking, etc. For high impact activity like skateboarding, I still think you need more support and shock absorption. From my experience with the last several skate shoes I've had, cupsule or vulc doesn't matter as long as you have an insole that provides the right support and shock absorption and of course, a nice fit. My current shoes have a barely few mm of outsole, midsole is literally a piece of fabric to hold it together and I replaced the shit insole with an FP Gamechanger that molds to my foot shape and provides arch support and it works great with no pain from any landing impact.

I'm no doctor so it's just my experience but I think people should do their own research on what makes sense and works for them and don't listen to anyone, including doctors, blindly.

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Say word. Appreciate you weighing in, agreed you gotta find what works for you. Your experience with different styles of shoe working with the right insole gives me hope. Edited the post to note those FPs are not a current production model. I'll still use them to replace some flim flam stock ones.

The barefoot thing is wild. I have a buddy who does 60 mile backpacking trips in Wyoming with 1000s and 1000s of feet of elevations change, often off trail. Switched to barefoot style shoes and said it changed his life. I have friends who work 12+ hour production days swearing by those 5 Finger Vibrams. Gotta dig in on these. But man, the streets.......

Yeah, barefoot is the real deal. It just makes complete sense, to me at least and my own experience proves it in my own case. I have a similar story as your friends - my first chance using my Vibrams was on a hiking trip by the Colorado river. I wasn’t sure if I should wear them because I just got them and only really tried them on so I was scared my feet would be tore up. Ended up just going with it and after getting used to feeling all the count outs of the rocks, I really started to get it. So the crazy part is, this was a pretty far hike and much of it was not a nice dirt path, it was mostly climbing and jumping over rocks and a lot of gravel. Plus, I was carrying my kid on my back 95% of the time or more. Actually, the crazier pet on top of it is on the way back, it got dark quick and became pitch black so we got lost since there wasn’t really a clear trail and could only walk towards what we thought was the right direction. Everyone else was dying, with their feet in pain and they were all wearing hiking boots. Some of them thought I was crazy when I first decided to wear them Vibrams but even though I was tired as shit, I was able to troop on and i know a big part of that was the shoes. No idea how, but we eventually made it back taking a completely different path than we went but ever since then, I make it a point to wear barefoot or minimalist style shoes as often as possible and like I said before, my feet have never felt healthier and pains I used to have are gone. I’ve been keeping an eye out for barefoot style skate shoes and as soon as there are options I like, I’ll definitely be trying them.

[swongolianbbq]

I usually backpack in Altras

Zero drop, lightweight, and a wide toe box, but a foam under there.

Use them with the SOLE Active Thin footbeds with the met pad. Any other footbeds I've tried have broken down and fallen apart. Probably because I don't take my shoes off for stream crossings I just keep walking right through and onward

Bedrocks are more sustainable because they're more durable but I feel a lot safer in enclosed shoes and feel like I can move faster.

I agree with what was said about your feet getting soft from wearing squishy shoes all the time

I have a buddy who only hiked in leather hiking boots and wore them around everywhere too, and I've seen him roll his ankle a few times. He hikes with two Velcro ankle braces and his boots now

I like the feedback of a shoe without any forefoot midsole for skating, think most vulcs. My preferred shoe is the Jordan 1 cause it's pretty wide, and only has a midsole in the back. So they do have some drop. I find with heel bruises and stuff that some heel-toe drop in skate shoes is a necessary evil, but I try to keep it to a minimum. I feel like I would like iPath Cats/Grasshoppers though, cause I used to really like eS Accels, and they seem widish and have some midsole foam under the forefoot iirc. Like a new balance 480 or something. If I can get used to having more foam under my toes, I might eventually start skating those just for more protection and less heel-toe drop.

I tried the FP kingfoam flat insoles and I think I'm gonna keep using them for the foreseeable future. I have a high arch and don't need the support so much as I want impact protection

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Yeah, I think one key thing is the drop. When you are doing standard activities like walking, running, hiking, the barefoot shoes give you a natural stride and use the foot flex the way it was designed, toes support and flex down to heel, instead of emphasizing heel strikes like other shoes do. I think that’s the primary cause of injury is those padded shoes making you strike heel first all the time. It doesn’t let your feet or legs to act as shock absorbers that they were meant to be.

In skateboarding, I think we are naturally more on our toes, popping, pushing and landing so we are already using more of our anatomic ability. But we are also in a lot of more high impact situations so that’s why the extra cushion is important. But all the same concepts apply so if you have a barefoot/minimalist style shoe that lets your foot flex with an added layer of impact protection, that should be ideal. You don’t need too much, the few mm of FP insole I use is more adequate at absorbing impact with pretty much nothing else than shoes with all kinds of other supposed impact tech and layers built in.

[DarkPools]

Something I really enjoy about IPath & a chunk of Soletech shoes is how there's minimal heel-toe drop in most models. They're ideal for swapping in a preferred insole for comfort & support.  Minimal change to the angle for how your foot sits inside the shoe. That means better foot health and performance, I reckon.

Adidas are notorious for this angular drop/arch lump in their soles. NB# has some models with this, as well. Vans popcush kinda does this. Asics doesn't feel like it's there, or if it is, it's not egregious (i have a Japan Pro MT i wanna skate and I don't notice it)

I like a padded shoe. They're comfortable and feel supportive. However, i know I like control and board feel/response up to a certain point. I've never tried FP insoles, but I am curious to branch out into aftermarket insoles more seriously to optimize the shoes I usually skate (dunks, accels, maranas, OG-1, grasshopper, hopefully Japan pros if I like them, etc.)
Superfeet are top of my list to check out!

[minilogoflow]

https://powerstep.com/products/bridge-insoles?tw_source=google&tw_adid=&tw_campaign=21720306128&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21713905188&gbraid=0AAAAADl7qQQk8WZ9_VuLu78G8VZ1xcAS5&gclid=Cj0KCQiAr5nKBhCpARIsACa_NiOvz2sLmiQ0vC8ThCPsfIr9CFYap450nkril-mpnU2U4i43arld8CMaAsn4EALw_wcB

For any of my high arched PALS out there that are looking for an insole with an arch bridge that doesn't stab into your foot. The foam on these is an ETPU so fairly similar to Adidas boost although I will say these aren't nearly as bouncy as boost. The arch support on these are semi-flexible which makes it a lot more comfortable than the hard shell supports that are out there. I've been skating in the these for the last four months and they have held up great. The thing I like the most beyond comfort and support is there isn't a giant heel to toe drop which makes these good for fitting in a variety of shoes. I found out about these through the youtuber Foot Doctor Zach, he does a similar breakdown on shoes like the Rose Anvil guys but focuses on basketball, running and tennis shoes if you're into that sort of gear nerdery.

[breezy_again]

Just got back from the podiatrist and figured I'd share. Sorry so long, hopefully some of this info is helpful. Those links are insane.

Was mostly a preventative visit to inquire about insoles and footwear. I've been getting tolerable pain on the transverse arches of my feet but thankfully have no name brand foot ailments. As we age the fat pads on the bottoms of our feet shrink so we have less natural cushioning, which is my situation. I'm 46. And a half.

Doc was younger and a swell guy, said he used to skate. Said that for foot health in skateboarding cupsole shoes with thicker soles are best. You know, like Osiris or DC, and proceeded to pull up some bulky ass mall DC's online. I didn't have the heart to tell him that in 2025 the streets will not wear this. But I get what he's saying.

I brought in my skate and gym shoes for him to scrutinize. He said most shoes come with trash "cardboard" insoles like my Adidas Puigs. Definitely replace insoles like that. He agrees it's nuts companies get away with skimping on this, it's like they didn't finish making the shoe. I showed him some old Foot Print Insoles I had and he was like, oh these are weird, memory foam.... He would not recommend..(Edit: These FPs are 7 years old, so this doesn't account for anything current)  My gym shoes, New Balance MXCTRLR1 Fresh Foams, got approved of course. Ewww.

Gave me a handout with preferred shoe companies and recommended insoles currently available on Amazon. They ain't cheap. Also sent me home with some metatarsal pads to help absorb some impact on that part of the foot. Can always explore custom insoles as well. Lists and links at the bottom.

This part was kinda surprising. Apparently we're not supposed to walk around the house barefoot all the time. We evolved to walk on grass, dirt, gravel, etc but not hard, flat surfaces. So just walking around the house really beats up your feet. Recommends sandals or slippers for the house. Said Crocs are horrible.

Be advised this is one person's experience with one doctor so YMMV. Doc said everyone's feet are different and no one's are perfect, listen to your body of course. He was wearing Brooks. If anyone has differing info or additional podiatrist approved brands I'd be stoked to hear about it. Saw Superfeet getting love in here. I'll report back once I try out some insoles.



Footwear Reqs
Shoes should only flex front to back from the toe side, you should not be able to taco the sole.
Shoes should not easily twist torsionally, the sole should be stable.
Shoes should have a firm spine and cup around the heel area 

Recommended Shoe Brands
Brooks
Asics
New Balance
Saucony
Oofos - Doc was surprised by this and owns some
Birkenstock - Got honorable mention. He likes them but can't speak to longevity because they are made of cork. If they work for you go for it. Loving my Arizonas, 9 months old and get worn almost everyday.

Links to Insoles

Spenco Max Support - Thicker
https://www.amazon.com/Spenco-Support-Insoles-11-12-5-10-11-5/dp/B008CJNTI6/ref=sr_1_1?crid=150V9U3MP1PX6&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.5LBvKz4IViKAI_h8u8w7wIBi77TRJCdGXMAqdAnON0ls1e8CjBkB4MTXlla_6kC7WCRh0_wWPTcDdFlRsQ_lu_WkXkUXe-k5NwYVncHqvPverhorCa2pmDMXy6VYa43CRyjJY7lvVUJTaOSGIVueAJpJchJ3C08xXRBaRCEYkg5FrKGBm3LwtSZ8epSltOV2Oyo5Rq2br79-Ds2T3KHcNC7DYSmrfmyNi5TooWDno0F8CsqgW8mFhD_KROBVwtT4NNCpWrjWlzP8K9rtZND8O7NXi7kWcd3xGz-A8chV12E.EAx0WBqf3wCmp2HziABIDKnSDmoblL46GwadJIv4-FI&dib_tag=se&keywords=spenco%2Bmax%2Bsupport&qid=1766090036&sprefix=spenco%2Bmax%2Bsuppor%2Caps%2C292&sr=8-1&th=1

Powerstep Protech - Slimmer
https://www.amazon.com/Powerstep-Protech-Control-Insoles-6-6-5/dp/B006C6PFI8/ref=sr_1_7?crid=RG3O0PT59ABZ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.TXf_gHIqrnFNX7EbK3RT91aKKWFhLqZWBxKMvKVL_6GTphBZOeNGvUz4xbkYqsrS_mXTl-Z43_hYvChB1Jsj-8Kcrmqdl5gVjgB4bGRzLx7qny08aTDLr26gx7J021_3uMdoAdWICKkBReVXffWISBNYvBtJBBRk4IUH0zDt5kQ13KwjP6unpt_dUfnQwRBHAo80AZLAM8zZ5gyuYiTDCe7L4-uz9EvLX4MfEkqGUjTEpU6zx66V1g28qt_i_ddnuKkfd1YKoo-4nzR7lEkVCJYJgBU7s4YT933doBfVL-Q.h5o2aABQlmvh1NPcqpEckKy2Z_6HlWAqCMIabbdjPSE&dib_tag=se&keywords=powerstep%2Bprotech&qid=1766160830&sprefix=powerstep%2Bprotech%2Caps%2C215&sr=8-7&th=1

Redithotics - Slimmer, maybe on some ho shit
https://www.amazon.com/Redi-Thotics-Flex-Orthotic-Insoles-Size/dp/B002OQWMRW/ref=sr_1_6?crid=SXDM0DX7E4GT&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.4yRVBASeoYhuv1GamaQULzbPHVsF16dZ-ECYqcdJysOcW5naGLOjmRRLMqRlywRKE6ON0516E_GZi-t1HuaeAdHoOc9CN8vo3uihs9JOWhkxGImIkjg_I-wcrf8RyAB39ZT1Vgsl3rCAydBxkiXcHBLb-jbECj0CUPeOwD5D9MXUgGKEtj2xSNMza8s6RRihVBwObk4GhLE_K3igiJR2yjeHR8TucRAjgQTIEgPacUS1TYW30eNgSAgl4nA6RP3h719vDednDL_BlC8SgliF_lmedV5gmSoFtZNLEnD5pq4.mqGNsjiK1ZuIrMIYU0W_MF353ambbiRwFGjOX7N7V04&dib_tag=se&keywords=redithotics&qid=1766089799&sprefix=redithotics%2Caps%2C388&sr=8-6&th=1&psc=1

Metatarsal Pads
https://www.amazon.com/Metatarsal-Cushions-Metatarsalgia-Forefoot-Support/dp/B0DKVB1GHF/ref=sr_1_7?adgrpid=187997797124&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.iW8LruRnBkeXX649LYcHOYz1j9M9eRfxqvC0gDlg-QnocdTu1ygiouI9y5wM0XefgORdEyfmgaUxmKfIuSXtuujp0t01VgYE7rfQNUQohh-QeU1YChb4anCotzwZE-iI2DpI2hQdJqBdCxCkqlbVbphSGJdZKqf254g6_fz9fWynqY9GEnwsb58Qy8e5-EEducDWedC9iGHfkMI-ftc5qkugWw2Iwqw3WLyNrWYK3HqNj-EH_M1u1T44n5YcUbBh2quI_ouqj4m2pNkbCvujc3AKzAlhfVSukhfszIS5XNw.23yvSvco5sY6UnZnKXAYeiZnAnrf64gB1DXzyWazgJ8&dib_tag=se&hvadid=779546870598&hvdev=c&hvexpln=0&hvlocphy=9021704&hvnetw=g&hvocijid=2781458850721114757--&hvqmt=e&hvrand=2781458850721114757&hvtargid=kwd-318648208467&hydadcr=7471_13294108_2063941&keywords=metatarsal%2Bpads%2Bamazon&mcid=8dd68a8eec003b09a483bd7035775942&qid=1766089558&sr=8-7&th=1

Edit: Fixed link to Powerstep insoles and noted FPs shown to doc are a way older model.

did he have anything to say about hoka?

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I usually backpack in Altras

Zero drop, lightweight, and a wide toe box, but a foam under there.

Use them with the SOLE Active Thin footbeds with the met pad. Any other footbeds I've tried have broken down and fallen apart. Probably because I don't take my shoes off for stream crossings I just keep walking right through and onward

Bedrocks are more sustainable because they're more durable but I feel a lot safer in enclosed shoes and feel like I can move faster.

I agree with what was said about your feet getting soft from wearing squishy shoes all the time

I have a buddy who only hiked in leather hiking boots and wore them around everywhere too, and I've seen him roll his ankle a few times. He hikes with two Velcro ankle braces and his boots now

I like the feedback of a shoe without any forefoot midsole for skating, think most vulcs. My preferred shoe is the Jordan 1 cause it's pretty wide, and only has a midsole in the back. So they do have some drop. I find with heel bruises and stuff that some heel-toe drop in skate shoes is a necessary evil, but I try to keep it to a minimum. I feel like I would like iPath Cats/Grasshoppers though, cause I used to really like eS Accels, and they seem widish and have some midsole foam under the forefoot iirc. Like a new balance 480 or something. If I can get used to having more foam under my toes, I might eventually start skating those just for more protection and less heel-toe drop.

I tried the FP kingfoam flat insoles and I think I'm gonna keep using them for the foreseeable future. I have a high arch and don't need the support so much as I want impact protection

I love Altras & i just got my 1st pair of Lems. So far I’m really digging them. After wearing altras I can’t wear some of my older narrower shoes anymore so they work. I had pair of the SOLEs and need to get some new ones

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I usually backpack in Altras

Zero drop, lightweight, and a wide toe box, but a foam under there.

Use them with the SOLE Active Thin footbeds with the met pad. Any other footbeds I've tried have broken down and fallen apart. Probably because I don't take my shoes off for stream crossings I just keep walking right through and onward

Bedrocks are more sustainable because they're more durable but I feel a lot safer in enclosed shoes and feel like I can move faster.

I agree with what was said about your feet getting soft from wearing squishy shoes all the time

I have a buddy who only hiked in leather hiking boots and wore them around everywhere too, and I've seen him roll his ankle a few times. He hikes with two Velcro ankle braces and his boots now

I like the feedback of a shoe without any forefoot midsole for skating, think most vulcs. My preferred shoe is the Jordan 1 cause it's pretty wide, and only has a midsole in the back. So they do have some drop. I find with heel bruises and stuff that some heel-toe drop in skate shoes is a necessary evil, but I try to keep it to a minimum. I feel like I would like iPath Cats/Grasshoppers though, cause I used to really like eS Accels, and they seem widish and have some midsole foam under the forefoot iirc. Like a new balance 480 or something. If I can get used to having more foam under my toes, I might eventually start skating those just for more protection and less heel-toe drop.

I tried the FP kingfoam flat insoles and I think I'm gonna keep using them for the foreseeable future. I have a high arch and don't need the support so much as I want impact protection

That’s interesting you say some Soletech shoes have minimalist characteristics. I’m riding Walmart Etnies right now and they have barely 3 mm of outsole and midsole is basically nonexistent. I ride with my FP Gamechangers and thy are great without the insoles, they are quite bad since the stock are some odd shape cardboard like junk like that doctor described. I wanted MC Rap Mids but they were becoming a pain to find and that’s when I saw the Walmart version fp $20 and went for those.

I also just got NB 480 highs but haven’t skated them yet but you’re sting those are similar? That’s great if so.

As for insoles, you mention the arch support and that’s another big thing from wearing barefoot shoes. I used to always want a lot of arch support but now, my arches have actually got higher and stronger from wearing barefoot shoes and it no longer matters as much. I still use my FP Gamechangers since they are molded perfectly to my feet but I’ve found no decrease in performance or issues when I use my completely flat Kingfoam inserts.

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Just saying the NB 480s have a full length midsole and don't seem to have a lot of drop. I think the iPaths are like this too. And dunk Pro Bs

Yeah I like high arch support in like, ski boots, cycling shoes, other stuff, cause it keeps my foot locked in and raises it up to make it a little shorter in length allowing me to wear a smaller size boot.. trying to minimize movement/play. I can get the toe of a ski boot punched out for my wide foot, can't exactly do that in a skate shoe.

I just try to find a wider skate shoe without too much drop, and throw an flat FP insole in there and it's all good. The Elite High kingfoams work good in blazers, cause the body heat doesn't soften the heel up as much cause it's thick and there's a slab of gel on top, so the properties actually work for heel impact. When I'm using a 5mm flat FP, after my feet warm them up, all the benefits kind of go out the window. There's videos of people doing the tests with an fp they *just* took out of the shoe they were wearing and none of the tests work anymore. But I tested the elite Hi/blazer combo and it works super good still for heel impact. Blazers are a little narrow but it's bearable a half size up once they break in, and I like the look of them

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Just got back from the podiatrist and figured I'd share. Sorry so long, hopefully some of this info is helpful. Those links are insane.

Was mostly a preventative visit to inquire about insoles and footwear. I've been getting tolerable pain on the transverse arches of my feet but thankfully have no name brand foot ailments. As we age the fat pads on the bottoms of our feet shrink so we have less natural cushioning, which is my situation. I'm 46. And a half.

Doc was younger and a swell guy, said he used to skate. Said that for foot health in skateboarding cupsole shoes with thicker soles are best. You know, like Osiris or DC, and proceeded to pull up some bulky ass mall DC's online. I didn't have the heart to tell him that in 2025 the streets will not wear this. But I get what he's saying.

I brought in my skate and gym shoes for him to scrutinize. He said most shoes come with trash "cardboard" insoles like my Adidas Puigs. Definitely replace insoles like that. He agrees it's nuts companies get away with skimping on this, it's like they didn't finish making the shoe. I showed him some old Foot Print Insoles I had and he was like, oh these are weird, memory foam.... He would not recommend. My gym shoes, New Balance MXCTRLR1 Fresh Foams, got approved of course. Ewww.

Gave me a handout with preferred shoe companies and recommended insoles currently available on Amazon. They ain't cheap. Also sent me home with some metatarsal pads to help absorb some impact on that part of the foot. Can always explore custom insoles as well. Lists and links at the bottom.

This part was kinda surprising. Apparently we're not supposed to walk around the house barefoot all the time. We evolved to walk on grass, dirt, gravel, etc but not hard, flat surfaces. So just walking around the house really beats up your feet. Recommends sandals or slippers for the house. Said Crocs are horrible.

Be advised this is one person's experience with one doctor so YMMV. Doc said everyone's feet are different and no one's are perfect, listen to your body of course. He was wearing Brooks. If anyone has differing info or additional podiatrist approved brands I'd be stoked to hear about it. Saw Superfeet getting love in here. I'll report back once I try out some insoles.



Footwear Reqs
Shoes should only flex front to back from the toe side, you should not be able to taco the sole.
Shoes should not easily twist torsionally, the sole should be stable.
Shoes should have a firm spine and cup around the heel area 

Recommended Shoe Brands
Brooks
Asics
New Balance
Saucony
Oofos - Doc was surprised by this and owns some
Birkenstock - Got honorable mention. He likes them but can't speak to longevity because they are made of cork. If they work for you go for it. Loving my Arizonas, 9 months old and get worn almost everyday.

Links to Insoles

Spenco Max Support - Thicker
https://www.amazon.com/Spenco-Support-Insoles-11-12-5-10-11-5/dp/B008CJNTI6/ref=sr_1_1?crid=150V9U3MP1PX6&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.5LBvKz4IViKAI_h8u8w7wIBi77TRJCdGXMAqdAnON0ls1e8CjBkB4MTXlla_6kC7WCRh0_wWPTcDdFlRsQ_lu_WkXkUXe-k5NwYVncHqvPverhorCa2pmDMXy6VYa43CRyjJY7lvVUJTaOSGIVueAJpJchJ3C08xXRBaRCEYkg5FrKGBm3LwtSZ8epSltOV2Oyo5Rq2br79-Ds2T3KHcNC7DYSmrfmyNi5TooWDno0F8CsqgW8mFhD_KROBVwtT4NNCpWrjWlzP8K9rtZND8O7NXi7kWcd3xGz-A8chV12E.EAx0WBqf3wCmp2HziABIDKnSDmoblL46GwadJIv4-FI&dib_tag=se&keywords=spenco%2Bmax%2Bsupport&qid=1766090036&sprefix=spenco%2Bmax%2Bsuppor%2Caps%2C292&sr=8-1&th=1

Powerstep Protech - Slimmer
https://www.amazon.com/PowerStep-Cushioning-Standing-Supports-Metatarsal/dp/B00GWU886A/ref=sxin_23_pa_sp_search_thematic_sspa?adgrpid=184161483537&content-id=amzn1.sym.ba55dbba-ad36-4ff5-87ba-ee4a4f384cb5%3Aamzn1.sym.ba55dbba-ad36-4ff5-87ba-ee4a4f384cb5&cv_ct_cx=powerstep%2Bprotech&hvadid=779703006652&hvdev=c&hvexpln=0&hvlocphy=9021704&hvnetw=g&hvocijid=12011254300227944250--&hvqmt=e&hvrand=12011254300227944250&hvtargid=kwd-6629312153&hydadcr=20001_13697692_2339046&keywords=powerstep%2Bprotech&mcid=086b84f8c3bc37108f564f7cf436f195&pd_rd_i=B00GWU886A&pd_rd_r=9cc6ebda-a725-415d-a568-4266fddd3c52&pd_rd_w=LCXO1&pd_rd_wg=lX5fU&pf_rd_p=ba55dbba-ad36-4ff5-87ba-ee4a4f384cb5&pf_rd_r=QJP3MC0EX3V7S9VZHMYM&qid=1766089362&sbo=RZvfv%2F%2FHxDF%2BO5021pAnSA%3D%3D&sr=1-2-e169343e-09af-4d41-85b1-8335fe8f32d0-spons&aref=knra3fdIE5&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9zZWFyY2hfdGhlbWF0aWM&th=1&psc=1

Redithotics - Slimmer, maybe on some ho shit
https://www.amazon.com/Redi-Thotics-Flex-Orthotic-Insoles-Size/dp/B002OQWMRW/ref=sr_1_6?crid=SXDM0DX7E4GT&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.4yRVBASeoYhuv1GamaQULzbPHVsF16dZ-ECYqcdJysOcW5naGLOjmRRLMqRlywRKE6ON0516E_GZi-t1HuaeAdHoOc9CN8vo3uihs9JOWhkxGImIkjg_I-wcrf8RyAB39ZT1Vgsl3rCAydBxkiXcHBLb-jbECj0CUPeOwD5D9MXUgGKEtj2xSNMza8s6RRihVBwObk4GhLE_K3igiJR2yjeHR8TucRAjgQTIEgPacUS1TYW30eNgSAgl4nA6RP3h719vDednDL_BlC8SgliF_lmedV5gmSoFtZNLEnD5pq4.mqGNsjiK1ZuIrMIYU0W_MF353ambbiRwFGjOX7N7V04&dib_tag=se&keywords=redithotics&qid=1766089799&sprefix=redithotics%2Caps%2C388&sr=8-6&th=1&psc=1

Metatarsal Pads
https://www.amazon.com/Metatarsal-Cushions-Metatarsalgia-Forefoot-Support/dp/B0DKVB1GHF/ref=sr_1_7?adgrpid=187997797124&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.iW8LruRnBkeXX649LYcHOYz1j9M9eRfxqvC0gDlg-QnocdTu1ygiouI9y5wM0XefgORdEyfmgaUxmKfIuSXtuujp0t01VgYE7rfQNUQohh-QeU1YChb4anCotzwZE-iI2DpI2hQdJqBdCxCkqlbVbphSGJdZKqf254g6_fz9fWynqY9GEnwsb58Qy8e5-EEducDWedC9iGHfkMI-ftc5qkugWw2Iwqw3WLyNrWYK3HqNj-EH_M1u1T44n5YcUbBh2quI_ouqj4m2pNkbCvujc3AKzAlhfVSukhfszIS5XNw.23yvSvco5sY6UnZnKXAYeiZnAnrf64gB1DXzyWazgJ8&dib_tag=se&hvadid=779546870598&hvdev=c&hvexpln=0&hvlocphy=9021704&hvnetw=g&hvocijid=2781458850721114757--&hvqmt=e&hvrand=2781458850721114757&hvtargid=kwd-318648208467&hydadcr=7471_13294108_2063941&keywords=metatarsal%2Bpads%2Bamazon&mcid=8dd68a8eec003b09a483bd7035775942&qid=1766089558&sr=8-7&th=1

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Sounds like the doctor had some good feedback that I overall agree with. As for FP insoles, I think he just doesn't know what they are because they are not just weird memory foam. For the barefoot thing, also agree that our bare feet are designed for contoured ground but I don't think it's as simple as he says. I know for a fact that barefoot shoes have helped my overall foot health and strength and the key is having some protection and padding from the elements, including flat ground but letting your foot flex as naturally intended.

I used to only wear cupsule, super tech shoes with a bunch of marketing about how great their cushioning or padding is. I'm pretty sure what that did was turn my feet into soft, pampered bitches in a sense, that they were basically frail and easily susceptible to damage and injury. Ever since I switched to more barefoot style footwear, including and especially Vibram Five Fingers, those stupid looking finger sock looking shoes, my feet have become healthier, stronger, and the pain I used to get like you described is gone. All because I'm using the natural flex of the foot and walking/running the way they are designed to. Now, that is for normal activity, including walking, hiking, etc. For high impact activity like skateboarding, I still think you need more support and shock absorption. From my experience with the last several skate shoes I've had, cupsule or vulc doesn't matter as long as you have an insole that provides the right support and shock absorption and of course, a nice fit. My current shoes have a barely few mm of outsole, midsole is literally a piece of fabric to hold it together and I replaced the shit insole with an FP Gamechanger that molds to my foot shape and provides arch support and it works great with no pain from any landing impact.

I'm no doctor so it's just my experience but I think people should do their own research on what makes sense and works for them and don't listen to anyone, including doctors, blindly.

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Say word. Appreciate you weighing in, agreed you gotta find what works for you. Your experience with different styles of shoe working with the right insole gives me hope. Edited the post to note those FPs are not a current production model. I'll still use them to replace some flim flam stock ones.

The barefoot thing is wild. I have a buddy who does 60 mile backpacking trips in Wyoming with 1000s and 1000s of feet of elevations change, often off trail. Switched to barefoot style shoes and said it changed his life. I have friends who work 12+ hour production days swearing by those 5 Finger Vibrams. Gotta dig in on these. But man, the streets.......

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Yeah, barefoot is the real deal. It just makes complete sense, to me at least and my own experience proves it in my own case. I have a similar story as your friends - my first chance using my Vibrams was on a hiking trip by the Colorado river. I wasn’t sure if I should wear them because I just got them and only really tried them on so I was scared my feet would be tore up. Ended up just going with it and after getting used to feeling all the count outs of the rocks, I really started to get it. So the crazy part is, this was a pretty far hike and much of it was not a nice dirt path, it was mostly climbing and jumping over rocks and a lot of gravel. Plus, I was carrying my kid on my back 95% of the time or more. Actually, the crazier pet on top of it is on the way back, it got dark quick and became pitch black so we got lost since there wasn’t really a clear trail and could only walk towards what we thought was the right direction. Everyone else was dying, with their feet in pain and they were all wearing hiking boots. Some of them thought I was crazy when I first decided to wear them Vibrams but even though I was tired as shit, I was able to troop on and i know a big part of that was the shoes. No idea how, but we eventually made it back taking a completely different path than we went but ever since then, I make it a point to wear barefoot or minimalist style shoes as often as possible and like I said before, my feet have never felt healthier and pains I used to have are gone. I’ve been keeping an eye out for barefoot style skate shoes and as soon as there are options I like, I’ll definitely be trying them.

A lot of solid real world results with these barefoots, thanks for taking the time! I'm sold on giving these a shot.

[Nom De Plume]

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Just got back from the podiatrist and figured I'd share. Sorry so long, hopefully some of this info is helpful. Those links are insane.

Was mostly a preventative visit to inquire about insoles and footwear. I've been getting tolerable pain on the transverse arches of my feet but thankfully have no name brand foot ailments. As we age the fat pads on the bottoms of our feet shrink so we have less natural cushioning, which is my situation. I'm 46. And a half.

Doc was younger and a swell guy, said he used to skate. Said that for foot health in skateboarding cupsole shoes with thicker soles are best. You know, like Osiris or DC, and proceeded to pull up some bulky ass mall DC's online. I didn't have the heart to tell him that in 2025 the streets will not wear this. But I get what he's saying.

I brought in my skate and gym shoes for him to scrutinize. He said most shoes come with trash "cardboard" insoles like my Adidas Puigs. Definitely replace insoles like that. He agrees it's nuts companies get away with skimping on this, it's like they didn't finish making the shoe. I showed him some old Foot Print Insoles I had and he was like, oh these are weird, memory foam.... He would not recommend..(Edit: These FPs are 7 years old, so this doesn't account for anything current)  My gym shoes, New Balance MXCTRLR1 Fresh Foams, got approved of course. Ewww.

Gave me a handout with preferred shoe companies and recommended insoles currently available on Amazon. They ain't cheap. Also sent me home with some metatarsal pads to help absorb some impact on that part of the foot. Can always explore custom insoles as well. Lists and links at the bottom.

This part was kinda surprising. Apparently we're not supposed to walk around the house barefoot all the time. We evolved to walk on grass, dirt, gravel, etc but not hard, flat surfaces. So just walking around the house really beats up your feet. Recommends sandals or slippers for the house. Said Crocs are horrible.

Be advised this is one person's experience with one doctor so YMMV. Doc said everyone's feet are different and no one's are perfect, listen to your body of course. He was wearing Brooks. If anyone has differing info or additional podiatrist approved brands I'd be stoked to hear about it. Saw Superfeet getting love in here. I'll report back once I try out some insoles.



Footwear Reqs
Shoes should only flex front to back from the toe side, you should not be able to taco the sole.
Shoes should not easily twist torsionally, the sole should be stable.
Shoes should have a firm spine and cup around the heel area 

Recommended Shoe Brands
Brooks
Asics
New Balance
Saucony
Oofos - Doc was surprised by this and owns some
Birkenstock - Got honorable mention. He likes them but can't speak to longevity because they are made of cork. If they work for you go for it. Loving my Arizonas, 9 months old and get worn almost everyday.

Links to Insoles

Spenco Max Support - Thicker
https://www.amazon.com/Spenco-Support-Insoles-11-12-5-10-11-5/dp/B008CJNTI6/ref=sr_1_1?crid=150V9U3MP1PX6&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.5LBvKz4IViKAI_h8u8w7wIBi77TRJCdGXMAqdAnON0ls1e8CjBkB4MTXlla_6kC7WCRh0_wWPTcDdFlRsQ_lu_WkXkUXe-k5NwYVncHqvPverhorCa2pmDMXy6VYa43CRyjJY7lvVUJTaOSGIVueAJpJchJ3C08xXRBaRCEYkg5FrKGBm3LwtSZ8epSltOV2Oyo5Rq2br79-Ds2T3KHcNC7DYSmrfmyNi5TooWDno0F8CsqgW8mFhD_KROBVwtT4NNCpWrjWlzP8K9rtZND8O7NXi7kWcd3xGz-A8chV12E.EAx0WBqf3wCmp2HziABIDKnSDmoblL46GwadJIv4-FI&dib_tag=se&keywords=spenco%2Bmax%2Bsupport&qid=1766090036&sprefix=spenco%2Bmax%2Bsuppor%2Caps%2C292&sr=8-1&th=1

Powerstep Protech - Slimmer
https://www.amazon.com/Powerstep-Protech-Control-Insoles-6-6-5/dp/B006C6PFI8/ref=sr_1_7?crid=RG3O0PT59ABZ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.TXf_gHIqrnFNX7EbK3RT91aKKWFhLqZWBxKMvKVL_6GTphBZOeNGvUz4xbkYqsrS_mXTl-Z43_hYvChB1Jsj-8Kcrmqdl5gVjgB4bGRzLx7qny08aTDLr26gx7J021_3uMdoAdWICKkBReVXffWISBNYvBtJBBRk4IUH0zDt5kQ13KwjP6unpt_dUfnQwRBHAo80AZLAM8zZ5gyuYiTDCe7L4-uz9EvLX4MfEkqGUjTEpU6zx66V1g28qt_i_ddnuKkfd1YKoo-4nzR7lEkVCJYJgBU7s4YT933doBfVL-Q.h5o2aABQlmvh1NPcqpEckKy2Z_6HlWAqCMIabbdjPSE&dib_tag=se&keywords=powerstep%2Bprotech&qid=1766160830&sprefix=powerstep%2Bprotech%2Caps%2C215&sr=8-7&th=1

Redithotics - Slimmer, maybe on some ho shit
https://www.amazon.com/Redi-Thotics-Flex-Orthotic-Insoles-Size/dp/B002OQWMRW/ref=sr_1_6?crid=SXDM0DX7E4GT&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.4yRVBASeoYhuv1GamaQULzbPHVsF16dZ-ECYqcdJysOcW5naGLOjmRRLMqRlywRKE6ON0516E_GZi-t1HuaeAdHoOc9CN8vo3uihs9JOWhkxGImIkjg_I-wcrf8RyAB39ZT1Vgsl3rCAydBxkiXcHBLb-jbECj0CUPeOwD5D9MXUgGKEtj2xSNMza8s6RRihVBwObk4GhLE_K3igiJR2yjeHR8TucRAjgQTIEgPacUS1TYW30eNgSAgl4nA6RP3h719vDednDL_BlC8SgliF_lmedV5gmSoFtZNLEnD5pq4.mqGNsjiK1ZuIrMIYU0W_MF353ambbiRwFGjOX7N7V04&dib_tag=se&keywords=redithotics&qid=1766089799&sprefix=redithotics%2Caps%2C388&sr=8-6&th=1&psc=1

Metatarsal Pads
https://www.amazon.com/Metatarsal-Cushions-Metatarsalgia-Forefoot-Support/dp/B0DKVB1GHF/ref=sr_1_7?adgrpid=187997797124&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.iW8LruRnBkeXX649LYcHOYz1j9M9eRfxqvC0gDlg-QnocdTu1ygiouI9y5wM0XefgORdEyfmgaUxmKfIuSXtuujp0t01VgYE7rfQNUQohh-QeU1YChb4anCotzwZE-iI2DpI2hQdJqBdCxCkqlbVbphSGJdZKqf254g6_fz9fWynqY9GEnwsb58Qy8e5-EEducDWedC9iGHfkMI-ftc5qkugWw2Iwqw3WLyNrWYK3HqNj-EH_M1u1T44n5YcUbBh2quI_ouqj4m2pNkbCvujc3AKzAlhfVSukhfszIS5XNw.23yvSvco5sY6UnZnKXAYeiZnAnrf64gB1DXzyWazgJ8&dib_tag=se&hvadid=779546870598&hvdev=c&hvexpln=0&hvlocphy=9021704&hvnetw=g&hvocijid=2781458850721114757--&hvqmt=e&hvrand=2781458850721114757&hvtargid=kwd-318648208467&hydadcr=7471_13294108_2063941&keywords=metatarsal%2Bpads%2Bamazon&mcid=8dd68a8eec003b09a483bd7035775942&qid=1766089558&sr=8-7&th=1

Edit: Fixed link to Powerstep insoles and noted FPs shown to doc are a way older model.

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did he have anything to say about hoka?

Just saw this. He didn't and I didn't ask. I went in so focused on skate shoes and insoles that I completely forgot to ask about other trainers and hiking boots. I was surprised Hoka and On weren't on his list, you see them everywhere.

[Insole]

Found these FP orthotic dupes while scrolling on Instagram

“Hype insoles” 🌽🌽

[Llewellyn Moss]

After each of the three 4-hour sessions, I can confidently say I'm less sore skating my first pair of Superfeet insoles. This is compared to a couple different styles of Footprint, which I've skated for years and can also confidently say I won't buy again. Superfeet is an upgrade. Hope the durability is there. If not I'll try some of the other brands in this thread but na, done with FP.

[JM]

After each of the three 4-hour sessions, I can confidently say I'm less sore skating my first pair of Superfeet insoles. This is compared to a couple different styles of Footprint, which I've skated for years and can also confidently say I won't buy again. Superfeet is an upgrade. Hope the durability is there. If not I'll try some of the other brands in this thread but na, done with FP.

Did you get these?
https://www.superfeet.com/products/all-purpose-high-impact-support

How is the vibration reduction? That’s what I’m most interested in.

[Insole]

Found these FP orthotic dupes while scrolling on Instagram

“Hype insoles” 🌽🌽

they’re actually remind dupes?!?

FP is going to have a field day when they find out about this

[Llewellyn Moss]

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After each of the three 4-hour sessions, I can confidently say I'm less sore skating my first pair of Superfeet insoles. This is compared to a couple different styles of Footprint, which I've skated for years and can also confidently say I won't buy again. Superfeet is an upgrade. Hope the durability is there. If not I'll try some of the other brands in this thread but na, done with FP.

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Did you get these?
https://www.superfeet.com/products/all-purpose-high-impact-support

How is the vibration reduction? That’s what I’m most interested in.

No mine are the run cushion low arch. Anything over a small lump of arch support will give me pain, I need a mostly flat insole. As an example if you've worn the original Tyshawn shoe, that worked well for me but the remastered one they added arch support and I couldn't wear the new version comfortably until it was worn down.

Vibration reduction during impact? Or just riding?

[JM]

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After each of the three 4-hour sessions, I can confidently say I'm less sore skating my first pair of Superfeet insoles. This is compared to a couple different styles of Footprint, which I've skated for years and can also confidently say I won't buy again. Superfeet is an upgrade. Hope the durability is there. If not I'll try some of the other brands in this thread but na, done with FP.

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Did you get these?
https://www.superfeet.com/products/all-purpose-high-impact-support

How is the vibration reduction? That’s what I’m most interested in.

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No mine are the run cushion low arch. Anything over a small lump of arch support will give me pain, I need a mostly flat insole. As an example if you've worn the original Tyshawn shoe, that worked well for me but the remastered one they added arch support and I couldn't wear the new version comfortably until it was worn down.

Vibration reduction during impact? Or just riding?

Impact mostly, but also likely riding on anything but smooth butter skatepark concrete.

My issue is that vibrations of all kinds will make my back sore at the end of the session. And just the normal FP’s really cut it out (almost completely).

If the superfeet offer proper support for joint alignment stuff and can provide the vibration/impact reduction… then I may try. There’s a lot of fans in here.

[Llewellyn Moss]

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After each of the three 4-hour sessions, I can confidently say I'm less sore skating my first pair of Superfeet insoles. This is compared to a couple different styles of Footprint, which I've skated for years and can also confidently say I won't buy again. Superfeet is an upgrade. Hope the durability is there. If not I'll try some of the other brands in this thread but na, done with FP.

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Did you get these?
https://www.superfeet.com/products/all-purpose-high-impact-support

How is the vibration reduction? That’s what I’m most interested in.

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No mine are the run cushion low arch. Anything over a small lump of arch support will give me pain, I need a mostly flat insole. As an example if you've worn the original Tyshawn shoe, that worked well for me but the remastered one they added arch support and I couldn't wear the new version comfortably until it was worn down.

Vibration reduction during impact? Or just riding?

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Impact mostly, but also likely riding on anything but smooth butter skatepark concrete.

My issue is that vibrations of all kinds will make my back sore at the end of the session. And just the normal FP’s really cut it out (almost completely).

If the superfeet offer proper support for joint alignment stuff and can provide the vibration/impact reduction… then I may try. There’s a lot of fans in here.

I've only skated a super smooth indoor with them so far so I can't offer much. Some of the repeat Superfeeters in here can probably help more. But I'll report back at intervals re impact protection, soreness, and durability.

[SupremePizza]

It's been awhile but I skated Fp gamechangers for a few pairs before going to Superfeet run cushion med. I don't really skate high impact stuff but I remember the fp being damper however I prefer the support and proper alignment that Superfeet provides. The biggest difference I noticed is my knees hurt less after a session with Superfeet. The run cushion worked well for me and in a cupsole I felt there was enough impact protection. I did not like the run support or winter support as the stiffer arch actually caused more pain

[DarkPools]

I'm browsing the Superfeet website and figured I'd also pick some of you Superfeet enjoyers' brains about them if you don't mind.

If I wanted an insole that was closer to the squishy, but dense/firm feeling of etnies/emerica's STI/G6 PU & Proper/State's PU foam compound, which one should I consider? I can't stand Vans' popcush feel anymore btw

I took the quiz and it gave me: All Purpose Support (Medium Arch)  I'm also looking at the All Purpose Cushion (not just bc of price) since many of the insoles they offer have that plastic cup/plate to stabilize your foot.

EDIT: I prefer cupsoles and with removable insoles (substantial or thin ortholite) for the most part

[Sila]

Those State insoles were good

[Scottboarding]

I'm browsing the Superfeet website and figured I'd also pick some of you Superfeet enjoyers' brains about them if you don't mind.

If I wanted an insole that was closer to the squishy, but dense/firm feeling of etnies/emerica's STI/G6 PU & Proper/State's PU foam compound, which one should I consider? I can't stand Vans' popcush feel anymore btw

I took the quiz and it gave me: All Purpose Support (Medium Arch)  I'm also looking at the All Purpose Cushion (not just bc of price) since many of the insoles they offer have that plastic cup/plate to stabilize your foot.

EDIT: I prefer cupsoles and with removable insoles (substantial or thin ortholite) for the most part

I have the All Purpose Support and they aren't like the PU foam at all. They're very stiff and I imagine they wouldn't do much for impact protection of cushioning. I use them for when I'm not skating and they're great for that, but I wouldn't recommend them for skating. They might be okay in a shoe where the midsole is doing most of the work, but I haven't tried that so I can't say for sure. I also have the all purpose cushion which isn't the PU feeling foam that Etnies has but is definitely a better choice for skating than the All Purpose Support.

[DarkPools]

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I'm browsing the Superfeet website and figured I'd also pick some of you Superfeet enjoyers' brains about them if you don't mind.

If I wanted an insole that was closer to the squishy, but dense/firm feeling of etnies/emerica's STI/G6 PU & Proper/State's PU foam compound, which one should I consider? I can't stand Vans' popcush feel anymore btw

I took the quiz and it gave me: All Purpose Support (Medium Arch)  I'm also looking at the All Purpose Cushion (not just bc of price) since many of the insoles they offer have that plastic cup/plate to stabilize your foot.

EDIT: I prefer cupsoles and with removable insoles (substantial or thin ortholite) for the most part

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I have the All Purpose Support and they aren't like the PU foam at all. They're very stiff and I imagine they wouldn't do much for impact protection of cushioning. I use them for when I'm not skating and they're great for that, but I wouldn't recommend them for skating. They might be okay in a shoe where the midsole is doing most of the work, but I haven't tried that so I can't say for sure. I also have the all purpose cushion which isn't the PU feeling foam that Etnies has but is definitely a better choice for skating than the All Purpose Support.

Thanks for the feedback! That's close to what I was guessing based on what I read/understood about those two insole types so far. Even better to know that they're better for non-skate activities: walking/chilling. I don't particularly like super firm insoles as they seem to fatigue my feet rather than support them.

@Sila I still have a few pairs of those insoles I'm stretching across shoes! They were a high mark of those shoes. I also enjoyed a handful of their shoes: Elgin & Mercers skated great

[fernando the skater]

Glued an old insole onto the front of some Vans ultracush for more metatarsal protection.

[Nom De Plume]

If anyone has differing info or additional podiatrist approved brands I'd be stoked to hear about it. Saw Superfeet getting love in here. I'll report back once I try out some insoles.

Back around after testing some out, not trying to quote my massive initial post. Looks like SLAP is happy with their FPs and Superfeet but here's what I got. Over a hundred miles on these things and lots of sessions with the flippity-do.

Went with the Spenco Max Support. Terrible brand name, in my head I read Spumco from Red and Stimpv. 2nd runner up was the Powerstep Protech, which were a little less techy, slimmer, and the arch felt higher.

Sure felt weird when I first put them in the Puigs. Normalizes quick and the minor foot pain I had is gone. They are kinda beefy and seem to be designed more for support but have good cushioning where you need it. Especially compared to stock insoles. Board feel isn't compromised. I've been using them at the gym too. Paced for like 2 hours while talking on the phone in my other Puigs with a stock insole and could feel the foot pain starting to creep back in. So I'm calling this a win.

Autofill kept trying to turn Puig to Pig, almost let it rock. Just sayin'......

[Skate34860]

Bought some Tiago 1010s but looking for a good impact insole. I’m 35 and slamming down off things I feel it. Was looking at the remindsoles but figured I’d ask on here if anyone has a suggestion on where to look for a good high arch support insole for impact and comfortability.