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Venture Truck Height:

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1021 on: February 05, 2023, 07:53:07 PM »
Hello.

Can someone say if all the Neen Williams Astrovore boards are twins?



Found some of these near me and really want to try, but one seller say they are not twins, but he maybe be wrong.

Yes they are.

Have skated 2, skating one now, have one more on ice.

It's super flat; I just wish the kicks were a but more full (they're not pointy, or square), as they're a tad small (like 8/8.125 small with the taper).


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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1022 on: February 06, 2023, 04:27:08 AM »
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Hello.

Can someone say if all the Neen Williams Astrovore boards are twins?



Found some of these near me and really want to try, but one seller say they are not twins, but he maybe be wrong.
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Yes they are.

Have skated 2, skating one now, have one more on ice.

It's super flat; I just wish the kicks were a but more full (they're not pointy, or square), as they're a tad small (like 8/8.125 small with the taper).


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Kinda 8.25 in the middle and than tappers a little to 8.125 on the trucks? My deck is just like that.
The flatness messed your pop or it´s ok? I like flatter decks, but I´m on Tunders now and they´re low. Maybe I can miss a bit of pop?

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1023 on: February 06, 2023, 06:27:56 AM »
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Hello.

Can someone say if all the Neen Williams Astrovore boards are twins?



Found some of these near me and really want to try, but one seller say they are not twins, but he maybe be wrong.
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Yes they are.

Have skated 2, skating one now, have one more on ice.

It's super flat; I just wish the kicks were a but more full (they're not pointy, or square), as they're a tad small (like 8/8.125 small with the taper).


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Weird that yours were so flat. When I lay mine and an (II concave and 8.25) ishod twin on top of another they're exactly the same deck, just the slightest wheelbase difference.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1024 on: February 06, 2023, 11:27:31 AM »
Of the 4, 2 were very very flat. Guess they were tops.

The taper for the nose starts just around the top(s) bolts, so just a bit past the truck/wheel line.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1025 on: February 06, 2023, 03:09:47 PM »
Hello twin friends. Is my assumption correct that all Ishod 8.3 twin slicks and Worrest 8.3 twin slicks are identical shapes, notwithstanding of the graphic?

I currently skate 8.3 shop blanks with the same specs as those Ishods/Worrests and also found a shop that has the BMW Ishods on sale so I figured I could stock up on those.

Who skates those, would you recommend them?

They are supposed to be. But in my experience they are not. I had an ishod 8.3 for a long time and it was really nice. But now I have a worrest one also 8.3 and it feels thin (more like a 8.25) and flatter. Also the tips seem to be a bit more pointy while the ishod was a bit more square. Both perfectly fine shapes, but I liked the ishod a lot better

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1026 on: February 07, 2023, 12:36:55 PM »
So, somewhere in this thread (I didn’t care enough to go look), I talked about how twin tails are not for me. I do believe I was wrong. I set up a Chems twin nose with new trucks a few weeks ago, and gave this symmetrical board shape another chance. I’m super glad I did!

The chems board is great quality, and helped me realize that maybe I was too harsh on my first twin tail attempt, but there were some issues I personally had with the dimensions. I ultimately decided a 14” wb (like the chems deck) proved to be not for me, but I since switched to a Deathwish Foy twin tail over the weekend, and it feels absolutely amazing.

With the 14” wb, I struggled to land my tricks and it felt like it tipped too easy. I always felt a bit off balance. Switched back to a 14.28” wb, and everything felt right again in the world. Previously I had been skating 14.25” wb pretty exclusively. I’ve come to find out that 14.25-14.375 is pretty much my happy place for wb.

I thought I would struggle with trying to maintain nose and tail, and while it did initially kick my ocd into overdrive with try a trick or line with your board this way, then switch to keep the wear equal, I’ve noticed that it’s become second nature to skate it however and not pay much attention to what’s what. With that said, I’ve currently got extremely symmetrical wear, so I must be just swapping somewhat subconsciously now.

Either way, I’m here to eat my words. Twin tails are pretty tight.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1027 on: February 07, 2023, 01:14:38 PM »
Joker Twin Tail
8.25 / 14" wb / 7"
Pressed at Pennswood.

https://jokerskateboardcompany.com/shop/ols/products/pondering-joker-standard


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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1028 on: February 07, 2023, 07:48:55 PM »
How do you guys ride your trucks for twin setups? Since you can ride off either side do you have both trucks of equal tightness or do you still have dedicated front / back trucks.

Hell my hardware arrangement is all out of wack, where are my 2 colored bolts supposed to go now that I have 2 noses / tails??
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1029 on: February 07, 2023, 07:56:17 PM »
How do you guys ride your trucks for twin setups? Since you can ride off either side do you have both trucks of equal tightness or do you still have dedicated front / back trucks.

Hell my hardware arrangement is all out of wack, where are my 2 colored bolts supposed to go now that I have 2 noses / tails??

I put fresh bushings on my trucks so I can run them either way, not “front” or “back truck”. I also put a nice gold bolt in the upper left corner of each truck so that it’s even both ways
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1030 on: February 07, 2023, 08:48:14 PM »
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How do you guys ride your trucks for twin setups? Since you can ride off either side do you have both trucks of equal tightness or do you still have dedicated front / back trucks.

Hell my hardware arrangement is all out of wack, where are my 2 colored bolts supposed to go now that I have 2 noses / tails??
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I put fresh bushings on my trucks so I can run them either way, not “front” or “back truck”. I also put a nice gold bolt in the upper left corner of each truck so that it’s even both ways

I just went with new trucks, and the goal is to run them the same tightness. It’s close enough that I can’t tell the difference.

 I have a sliver bolt in both upper rights for the same reason. It’s the one indicator bolt I have been using for years, so I made both sides match to make my brain happy.  ;D

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1031 on: February 07, 2023, 08:54:01 PM »
How do you guys ride your trucks for twin setups? Since you can ride off either side do you have both trucks of equal tightness or do you still have dedicated front / back trucks.

Hell my hardware arrangement is all out of wack, where are my 2 colored bolts supposed to go now that I have 2 noses / tails??

Equal tightness or VERY close to it.

Plain black grip, no colored hardware.


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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1032 on: February 07, 2023, 09:58:43 PM »
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How do you guys ride your trucks for twin setups? Since you can ride off either side do you have both trucks of equal tightness or do you still have dedicated front / back trucks.

Hell my hardware arrangement is all out of wack, where are my 2 colored bolts supposed to go now that I have 2 noses / tails??
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Equal tightness or VERY close to it.

Plain black grip, no colored hardware.

Gotta be equal tightness, this is a new lifestyle you’re adopting, not some phase you’re experimenting with!  There’s no front truck or back truck, there’s only trucks now.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1033 on: February 07, 2023, 10:05:49 PM »
As equal as I can make them. New bushings/cups help a bit but not crucial.

Plain grip, black bolts and try not to worry about scrapes or dirt being on a 'tail' or nose'


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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1034 on: February 08, 2023, 07:08:19 AM »
does this make sense
Twin nose = both are 7"
Twin tail = both are max 6-3/4"? somewhere around there.. 6.5" twin seems like it would be stupidly short - surely no one makes this? i would guess these kind of boards would err on the longer size of tail in general?

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1035 on: February 08, 2023, 07:21:24 AM »
What companies are currently making 8.0" Twin Tail/Nose decks??

Real (current choice)
Welcome (not a fan of the company)
Glider (not a fan)
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1036 on: February 09, 2023, 01:41:07 AM »
What companies are currently making 8.0" Twin Tail/Nose decks??

Real (current choice)
Weekend (not a fan of the company)
Glider (not a fan)

I'm on the Welcome 8.0" twin (14.25 wb iirc) and really liking it.  BBS wood and kicks are more square than the Ishod/Worrest twin decks.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1037 on: February 09, 2023, 04:14:30 AM »
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What companies are currently making 8.0" Twin Tail/Nose decks??

Real (current choice)
Weekend (not a fan of the company)
Glider (not a fan)
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I'm on the Welcome 8.0" twin (14.25 wb iirc) and really liking it.  BBS wood and kicks are more square than the Ishod/Worrest twin decks.

It says on Welcome site that 8'' twin has 14wb.
https://welcomeskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/clairvoyant-on-evil-twin-black-8-5

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1038 on: February 09, 2023, 04:57:30 AM »
I am using the Krooked twin board. 9.1.  It’s been a lot of fun.  Rolling on conical full 56mm.  It didn’t take long to appreciate how fun it is.
8.1 Drift -  venture 5.6 , Jessup, SFF  54mm Swiss ceramics  -https://imgur.com/a/WlDgenx

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1039 on: February 09, 2023, 12:21:01 PM »
I am using the Krooked twin board. 9.1.  It’s been a lot of fun.  Rolling on conical full 56mm.  It didn’t take long to appreciate how fun it is.

I can only find one with:
Nose: 6.75"
Tail: 6.5"
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1040 on: February 09, 2023, 01:55:48 PM »
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I am using the Krooked twin board. 9.1.  It’s been a lot of fun.  Rolling on conical full 56mm.  It didn’t take long to appreciate how fun it is.
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I can only find one with:
Nose: 6.75"
Tail: 6.5"
???

Yeah, I can’t find one either  :)

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1041 on: February 09, 2023, 05:12:06 PM »
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What companies are currently making 8.0" Twin Tail/Nose decks??

Real (current choice)
Weekend (not a fan of the company)
Glider (not a fan)
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I'm on the Welcome 8.0" twin (14.25 wb iirc) and really liking it.  BBS wood and kicks are more square than the Ishod/Worrest twin decks.

I've the 8.5, but recently sized down; waiting on SSD sales to grab the 8.25. Love the kick shape.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1042 on: February 10, 2023, 06:33:15 AM »
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I am using the Krooked twin board. 9.1.  It’s been a lot of fun.  Rolling on conical full 56mm.  It didn’t take long to appreciate how fun it is.
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I can only find one with:
Nose: 6.75"
Tail: 6.5"
???
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Yeah, I can’t find one either  :)

Maybe I’m wrong on whether it’s twin nose or twin tail, but here is the board I have setup.

https://www.tactics.com/krooked/alternate-moonsmile-91-skateboard-deck/green

8.1 Drift -  venture 5.6 , Jessup, SFF  54mm Swiss ceramics  -https://imgur.com/a/WlDgenx

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1043 on: February 10, 2023, 11:23:00 AM »
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I am using the Krooked twin board. 9.1.  It’s been a lot of fun.  Rolling on conical full 56mm.  It didn’t take long to appreciate how fun it is.
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I can only find one with:
Nose: 6.75"
Tail: 6.5"
???
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Yeah, I can’t find one either  :)
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Maybe I’m wrong on whether it’s twin nose or twin tail, but here is the board I have setup.

https://www.tactics.com/krooked/alternate-moonsmile-91-skateboard-deck/green

Pretty sure it's neither. It's just a deck with a short nose

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1044 on: February 10, 2023, 11:40:57 AM »
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Hello twin friends. Is my assumption correct that all Ishod 8.3 twin slicks and Worrest 8.3 twin slicks are identical shapes, notwithstanding of the graphic?

I currently skate 8.3 shop blanks with the same specs as those Ishods/Worrests and also found a shop that has the BMW Ishods on sale so I figured I could stock up on those.

Who skates those, would you recommend them?
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They are supposed to be. But in my experience they are not. I had an ishod 8.3 for a long time and it was really nice. But now I have a worrest one also 8.3 and it feels thin (more like a 8.25) and flatter. Also the tips seem to be a bit more pointy while the ishod was a bit more square. Both perfectly fine shapes, but I liked the ishod a lot better

This is false, that must have been an error. I've skated over 20 decks of this shape over the last 5 years and of course they're the same. The real/krooked 8.3 twin has never had square or full kicks either, that's actually a common criticism of the shape from people that prefer fuller kicks.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1045 on: February 12, 2023, 01:29:42 AM »
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What companies are currently making 8.0" Twin Tail/Nose decks??

Real (current choice)
Weekend (not a fan of the company)
Glider (not a fan)
[close]

I'm on the Welcome 8.0" twin (14.25 wb iirc) and really liking it.  BBS wood and kicks are more square than the Ishod/Worrest twin decks.
[close]

It says on Welcome site that 8'' twin has 14wb.
https://welcomeskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/clairvoyant-on-evil-twin-black-8-5

Weird.  I've just measured it again and it's just shy of 14.25. 

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1046 on: February 12, 2023, 01:37:35 AM »
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What companies are currently making 8.0" Twin Tail/Nose decks??

Real (current choice)
Weekend (not a fan of the company)
Glider (not a fan)
[close]

I'm on the Welcome 8.0" twin (14.25 wb iirc) and really liking it.  BBS wood and kicks are more square than the Ishod/Worrest twin decks.
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I've the 8.5, but recently sized down; waiting on SSD sales to grab the 8.25. Love the kick shape.

Same, my 8.5 welcome has been relegated to cruising and curb duties now.  I think I'll stick with Welcome unless Primitive release a twin.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1047 on: February 12, 2023, 02:08:25 AM »
does this make sense
Twin nose = both are 7"
Twin tail = both are max 6-3/4"? somewhere around there.. 6.5" twin seems like it would be stupidly short - surely no one makes this? i would guess these kind of boards would err on the longer size of tail in general?

I think the real 8.0 twin is 31.5, 14.3 wb and 6.55 tails. I hated it.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1048 on: February 12, 2023, 03:26:22 AM »
I just thought of something. I know some folks rotate their wheels so they wear evenly, so shouldn’t a twin tail help your wheels last longer too since you ride it both ways? Seems like their are more pros than cons when it comes to them.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1049 on: February 12, 2023, 05:01:55 AM »
I just thought of something. I know some folks rotate their wheels so they wear evenly, so shouldn’t a twin tail help your wheels last longer too since you ride it both ways? Seems like their are more pros than cons when it comes to them.

Absolutely. But it's still a good idea to regularly rotate your wheels. In my case, because I'm doing way more bs crooks than fs, leading to the "crook wheels" getting smaller faster.

If you're riding a twin and none of your axles are bent, rotating your wheels in a (anti-)clockwise direction is the same thing as just switching the wheels on each truck separately. So no need to remember in which way they need to be rotated