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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1200 on: June 27, 2023, 12:34:04 PM »


Thought I'd post this here, two 8.38 twins, the Ishod and the Henry. Ishod is a bit longer (I measured 31.6 vs. 31.7) and a hair more wheelbase (14,29 vs. 14.37). These are my measurements, converted from metrical to imperial, make of it what you will. Shape looks pretty similar, the Ishod is probably a bit more tapered. Steepness looks similar. Haven't skated a Quasi yet so can't compare. I will report back once I set it up.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1201 on: June 27, 2023, 04:09:29 PM »
Did you measure the width? My last two “8.3” quasi twins were in fact 8.25 :/

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1202 on: July 08, 2023, 12:59:57 PM »
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for what it's worth:

-started riding TT with the Ishod 8.5" peacock board but wasn't the most hyped.

-immediately switched to the Foy 8.5" gator board and enjoyed it more.

for my next deck i really wanna try the Malto/Crob G096.
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The G096 has been super fun, highly recommend if it seems to fit what you'd like. The tips are really nicely shaped - Nice wide surface, but rather mellow on the kicks.

14" WB makes it compact and agile, and the flatter concave, fatter tails seems to help with my consistency.

Only thing is the mellow kicks make scooping 360 flips really weird, they really don't want to work, but I'm terrible at them anyway.... Pop Shuvs and nollies feel amazing - shit just works for me

coming back to this post to say my third G096 is coming in the mail today! might be my favorite shape ever.

has anyone who has ridden the G096 shape tried the Krooked 8.3" Bobby TT slick shape? thinking of switching it up after i burn through this G096 coming today. feel like the 14.4" WB would be too much of a step up from the 14" WB.

i ride 149's and 56 conical fulls for reference. cheers!

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1203 on: July 27, 2023, 05:40:27 AM »
i bought a 8.25 mini logo deck and it is actually 8.38. i gave it to my carpender friend. he sand the nose down. now i have a 8.38 twin tail. i don't know how it works. this is my first board, i barely do ollie and shuvit. i tried pop shuvs with my foot while i am not on the board but it looks like impossible for now. we'll see.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1204 on: July 27, 2023, 06:32:13 AM »

coming back to this post to say my third G096 is coming in the mail today! might be my favorite shape ever.

has anyone who has ridden the G096 shape tried the Krooked 8.3" Bobby TT slick shape? thinking of switching it up after i burn through this G096 coming today. feel like the 14.4" WB would be too much of a step up from the 14" WB.

i ride 149's and 56 conical fulls for reference. cheers!

The 8.3" bobby is the same as the Ishod 8.3" if you've ever tried one of those. I purchased a Bobby one a few months back and it had the same Twin Tail sticker on it as the Ishod, but with Ishods name crossed out and Bobby written over it  ;D

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1205 on: August 12, 2023, 07:47:24 AM »
https://www.303boards.com/collections/skateboarding/products/303-boards-orbs-twin-tail-deck-black-8-5

303 has shop decks in the twin tail shape, last I heard they were using BBS.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1206 on: August 16, 2023, 07:24:12 PM »
Anyone skate or had eyes on both the Welcome Evil Twins in 8.5 and 8.25?

I have the 8.5 and the shape is fantasticles but don't want to blind buy the 8.25 and have it be diff. I insta'd like a man, no response.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1207 on: August 17, 2023, 06:42:16 AM »
i want a twin 7" nose board with the hockey shape.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1208 on: August 17, 2023, 09:16:44 AM »
Anyone skate or had eyes on both the Welcome Evil Twins in 8.5 and 8.25?

I have the 8.5 and the shape is fantasticles but don't want to blind buy the 8.25 and have it be diff. I insta'd like a man, no response.

I've had an 8.5 and a couple 8.0s, but I'm now on the 8.25 after a stint on a Santa Cruz twin.  One thing's for sure, I'll be on the 8.25 for as long as they keep making them...  I feel so at home on it.  If you're looking for something just bit more trim than the 8.5 then absolutely go for the 8.25, it's the same shape with the same wheelbase.  Fucking love that bloard.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1209 on: August 17, 2023, 10:13:23 AM »
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Anyone skate or had eyes on both the Welcome Evil Twins in 8.5 and 8.25?

I have the 8.5 and the shape is fantasticles but don't want to blind buy the 8.25 and have it be diff. I insta'd like a man, no response.
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I've had an 8.5 and a couple 8.0s, but I'm now on the 8.25 after a stint on a Santa Cruz twin.  One thing's for sure, I'll be on the 8.25 for as long as they keep making them...  I feel so at home on it.  If you're looking for something just bit more trim than the 8.5 then absolutely go for the 8.25, it's the same shape with the same wheelbase.  Fucking love that bloard.

Thanks my dude! I love the kick shape, very Manderson-like (if the evil came in 8.3...man, I'd be set).

At some point some site had the 8.25wb listed as 14" so I wrote it off in favor of the 8.5.

Even the 8.5" feels trimmer than other 8.5" - does the 8.25" feel 'small' for an 8.25?

Which SC twin were you on?
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1210 on: August 17, 2023, 12:12:10 PM »
i want a twin 7" nose board with the hockey shape.

You training for a high ollie contest?

In truth, I would love to try this on a 8.5 x 14.25 wb
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1211 on: August 17, 2023, 12:55:31 PM »
i want a twin 7" nose board with the hockey shape.

Get the Habitat/AWS twin. Closest you'll get right now (except it's A) longer and B) long ass WB compared to FA/HKY). It's way more full/square than the images suggest.

https://www.alienworkshop.com/products/kaos-twin-8-375

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1212 on: August 17, 2023, 06:51:26 PM »
Seconded on the Habitat / AWS Twins, tried a twin from another woodshop and was disappointed. Squarish kicks that aren't boxy with the only downside being their length (32.25 tip to tip).

They used a mix of BBS and China for their twins, recent Suciu ones have been BBS. BBS ones feel snappier and more "alive" than the China ones which feel stiffer, but both lasted me a good long time (5-6 weeks).
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1213 on: August 17, 2023, 11:12:39 PM »
I wanna try this AWS board, but none of my trucks fit it

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1214 on: August 18, 2023, 07:47:50 AM »
Today I've found my first (weak) argument against twin tails after skating them for years...
If you crack one tail without noticing, then switch to that tail, expecting it to have great pop, then clip the flatbar, get your foot stuck under the rail while falling over it and getting completely fucked, that's not so great.

Stay safe guys, check your tails. Time for a new deck as soon as I can walk again :/
Just wanted to do a fs lipslide on a rather high rail, as I've done hundreds of times before, and the board didn't come up the way I expected. This could have been 100 times worse though, I think I just pulled a muscle.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1215 on: August 18, 2023, 09:26:09 AM »
I like the Quasi 8.38 quite a bit after a few sessions.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1216 on: August 18, 2023, 01:03:28 PM »
I like the Quasi 8.38 quite a bit after a few sessions.

It's great, I've ridden a few, shame they are not true 8.3s anymore (they all measure under, like 8.25).

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1217 on: August 18, 2023, 01:33:32 PM »
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I like the Quasi 8.38 quite a bit after a few sessions.
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It's great, I've ridden a few, shame they are not true 8.3s anymore (they all measure under, like 8.25).

Mine‘s a true 8.38
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1218 on: August 21, 2023, 10:32:50 AM »
Thanks my dude! I love the kick shape, very Manderson-like (if the evil came in 8.3...man, I'd be set).

At some point some site had the 8.25wb listed as 14" so I wrote it off in favor of the 8.5.

Even the 8.5" feels trimmer than other 8.5" - does the 8.25" feel 'small' for an 8.25?

Which SC twin were you on?

I was on the McCoy 8.25 twin.  Skated it longer than any other deck I've had in the past 3 years but it started to sound dull when I got through 3+ plys.  The shape and the weird abrupt angle from flat to tail/nose just didn't do it for me, though.

I didn't subjectively notice any difference between the widths between the two, and I didn't feel like I needed to adjust or anything after I set up the Evil Twin.  The evil twin just looks better to me when looking down at it during a session.  Got another two on ice just so I don't run out between drops.






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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1219 on: August 21, 2023, 10:34:00 AM »
Any one on here a fan of the G069 or G096 shapes? Interested due to the 14 in WB.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1220 on: August 21, 2023, 10:43:05 AM »
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i want a twin 7" nose board with the hockey shape.
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Get the Habitat/AWS twin. Closest you'll get right now (except it's A) longer and B) long ass WB compared to FA/HKY). It's way more full/square than the images suggest.

https://www.alienworkshop.com/products/kaos-twin-8-375

7" kicks



has anyone skated one of these AWS twins?  looks great on paper
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1221 on: August 21, 2023, 11:37:25 AM »
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i want a twin 7" nose board with the hockey shape.
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Get the Habitat/AWS twin. Closest you'll get right now (except it's A) longer and B) long ass WB compared to FA/HKY). It's way more full/square than the images suggest.

https://www.alienworkshop.com/products/kaos-twin-8-375

7" kicks


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has anyone skated one of these AWS twins?  looks great on paper

Yes.

32.25" long
7" Kicks
14.375" WB

It's a BEAST. I don't know (well we do know, he's amazing) Suciu does what he does on this thing.

I hated it, just too much bloard for me.

Still waiting on that Primitive twin tail 8.125"....

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Thanks my dude! I love the kick shape, very Manderson-like (if the evil came in 8.3...man, I'd be set).

At some point some site had the 8.25wb listed as 14" so I wrote it off in favor of the 8.5.

Even the 8.5" feels trimmer than other 8.5" - does the 8.25" feel 'small' for an 8.25?

Which SC twin were you on?
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I was on the McCoy 8.25 twin.  Skated it longer than any other deck I've had in the past 3 years but it started to sound dull when I got through 3+ plys.  The shape and the weird abrupt angle from flat to tail/nose just didn't do it for me, though.

I didn't subjectively notice any difference between the widths between the two, and I didn't feel like I needed to adjust or anything after I set up the Evil Twin.  The evil twin just looks better to me when looking down at it during a session.  Got another two on ice just so I don't run out between drops.


SC board shapes are weird, but I like them for a week or so...yes, very abrupt kicks.

Looking down on the 8.5" evil is so nice, waiting on a Labor Day sale to nab the 8.25...tho that's gonna be tough, very few places carry it that run good sales.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1222 on: August 21, 2023, 06:46:22 PM »
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i want a twin 7" nose board with the hockey shape.
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Get the Habitat/AWS twin. Closest you'll get right now (except it's A) longer and B) long ass WB compared to FA/HKY). It's way more full/square than the images suggest.

https://www.alienworkshop.com/products/kaos-twin-8-375

7" kicks


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has anyone skated one of these AWS twins?  looks great on paper

I liked them enough to skate 5 in a row, the kicks are pretty round but not square. The length is the biggest turn off for most like Xen said, I'd pair them with a truck that pushes the wheels out a lot like a Thunder forged or Venture forged.

Going back to a 32" felt short after the Habitat / AWS twins.

Got news that the it's coming in a 8.25 and 8.5 in the same 32.25 x 14.38 dimensions later this year.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1223 on: August 22, 2023, 07:24:34 AM »
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i want a twin 7" nose board with the hockey shape.
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Get the Habitat/AWS twin. Closest you'll get right now (except it's A) longer and B) long ass WB compared to FA/HKY). It's way more full/square than the images suggest.

https://www.alienworkshop.com/products/kaos-twin-8-375

7" kicks


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has anyone skated one of these AWS twins?  looks great on paper
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I liked them enough to skate 5 in a row, the kicks are pretty round but not square. The length is the biggest turn off for most like Xen said, I'd pair them with a truck that pushes the wheels out a lot like a Thunder forged or Venture forged.

Going back to a 32" felt short after the Habitat / AWS twins.

Got news that the it's coming in a 8.25 and 8.5 in the same 32.25 x 14.38 dimensions later this year.

thanks for the input (you too @Xen)
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1224 on: August 22, 2023, 11:15:08 AM »
Any one on here a fan of the G069 or G096 shapes? Interested due to the 14 in WB.

I've ridden (rode?) 3 of G096, and its the only twin I've really tried.

It literally made me a believer in twin tails w/in 5 min of skating it; the wheelbase is snug but I think its perfect. the board feels very "square", for lack of a better term, not so much the shape but the dimensions.

It does feel mellow all around, but once i got used to the mold it felt amazing. I notice considerable consistency when I ride those decks.

plus they're decently easy to stack with the seasonal crailtap deals (2 boards for 80$ or something like that)
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1225 on: August 22, 2023, 11:59:57 AM »
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i want a twin 7" nose board with the hockey shape.
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Get the Habitat/AWS twin. Closest you'll get right now (except it's A) longer and B) long ass WB compared to FA/HKY). It's way more full/square than the images suggest.

https://www.alienworkshop.com/products/kaos-twin-8-375

7" kicks


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has anyone skated one of these AWS twins?  looks great on paper
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I liked them enough to skate 5 in a row, the kicks are pretty round but not square. The length is the biggest turn off for most like Xen said, I'd pair them with a truck that pushes the wheels out a lot like a Thunder forged or Venture forged.

Going back to a 32" felt short after the Habitat / AWS twins.

Got news that the it's coming in a 8.25 and 8.5 in the same 32.25 x 14.38 dimensions later this year.
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thanks for the input (you too @Xen)

Man, if that 8.25 came shorter - I'd be all in. Guess the Welcome will suffice! Anything 32"+ just feels too long and boaty for me.

As for the crail twin, I just can't do a 14" WB, I've tried repeatedly and I just can't get used to it; my stance is too wide. For whatever reason only the primitive 8.125/8.25s with the 14" WB work and that has to be due to the overall length and kick dimensions (tho it still feels just a tad small) + running thunders or ventures (something that did not work with non-twin crail boards.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1226 on: August 22, 2023, 12:38:29 PM »
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i want a twin 7" nose board with the hockey shape.
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Get the Habitat/AWS twin. Closest you'll get right now (except it's A) longer and B) long ass WB compared to FA/HKY). It's way more full/square than the images suggest.

https://www.alienworkshop.com/products/kaos-twin-8-375

7" kicks


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has anyone skated one of these AWS twins?  looks great on paper
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I liked them enough to skate 5 in a row, the kicks are pretty round but not square. The length is the biggest turn off for most like Xen said, I'd pair them with a truck that pushes the wheels out a lot like a Thunder forged or Venture forged.

Going back to a 32" felt short after the Habitat / AWS twins.

Got news that the it's coming in a 8.25 and 8.5 in the same 32.25 x 14.38 dimensions later this year.
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thanks for the input (you too @Xen)
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Man, if that 8.25 came shorter - I'd be all in. Guess the Welcome will suffice! Anything 32"+ just feels too long and boaty for me.

As for the crail twin, I just can't do a 14" WB, I've tried repeatedly and I just can't get used to it; my stance is too wide. For whatever reason only the primitive 8.125/8.25s with the 14" WB work and that has to be due to the overall length and kick dimensions (tho it still feels just a tad small) + running thunders or ventures (something that did not work with non-twin crail boards.
honestly I'm surprised I enjoy 14"wb as much as I do, its so compact and easy to manipulate. i still fuck with the usual 14.25-14.5, but 14 is easy to remember ahaha

strange as i'm on the taller and slender side but shorter wb fit so good for some reason - I also loved the sub-14"wb on the crail couch/loveseat (13.85, i think?)

I ran indy's on each twin, not sure in which that affects wb
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1227 on: August 22, 2023, 05:46:15 PM »
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i want a twin 7" nose board with the hockey shape.
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Get the Habitat/AWS twin. Closest you'll get right now (except it's A) longer and B) long ass WB compared to FA/HKY). It's way more full/square than the images suggest.

https://www.alienworkshop.com/products/kaos-twin-8-375

7" kicks


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has anyone skated one of these AWS twins?  looks great on paper
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I liked them enough to skate 5 in a row, the kicks are pretty round but not square. The length is the biggest turn off for most like Xen said, I'd pair them with a truck that pushes the wheels out a lot like a Thunder forged or Venture forged.

Going back to a 32" felt short after the Habitat / AWS twins.

Got news that the it's coming in a 8.25 and 8.5 in the same 32.25 x 14.38 dimensions later this year.
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thanks for the input (you too @Xen)
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Man, if that 8.25 came shorter - I'd be all in. Guess the Welcome will suffice! Anything 32"+ just feels too long and boaty for me.

As for the crail twin, I just can't do a 14" WB, I've tried repeatedly and I just can't get used to it; my stance is too wide. For whatever reason only the primitive 8.125/8.25s with the 14" WB work and that has to be due to the overall length and kick dimensions (tho it still feels just a tad small) + running thunders or ventures (something that did not work with non-twin crail boards.
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honestly I'm surprised I enjoy 14"wb as much as I do, its so compact and easy to manipulate. i still fuck with the usual 14.25-14.5, but 14 is easy to remember ahaha

strange as i'm on the taller and slender side but shorter wb fit so good for some reason - I also loved the sub-14"wb on the crail couch/loveseat (13.85, i think?)

I ran indy's on each twin, not sure in which that affects wb

Depends on the twin and kick length tbh, longer kicks with a short/14" WB I can handle as the kick length makes it feel longer...so a long WB, board and kicks, nope.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1228 on: August 23, 2023, 12:05:43 PM »
Just received my santa cruz mccoy "transcend" vx twin and it's just so weird.
The "tails" are actually the same length and the nose is only 1° steeper which would be fine, BUT they have different fingers of flat. Way more on the nose. Just why.
Still happy to skate it, maybe just not in a really symmetric way. Only got it because it was 50% off, all good

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1229 on: August 23, 2023, 12:38:49 PM »
Just received my santa cruz mccoy "transcend" vx twin and it's just so weird.
The "tails" are actually the same length and the nose is only 1° steeper which would be fine, BUT they have different fingers of flat. Way more on the nose. Just why.
Still happy to skate it, maybe just not in a really symmetric way. Only got it because it was 50% off, all good

They've always been hit or miss; poor internal communication I think -waaaaaay back they were saying they were symmetrical boards when, in fact, only the kick degree was, not the shape (this was the first mcoy 'twin video') I fell for it and was turned off, but skated it anyway as a 'regular' board, because you could easily see the tail and nose were diff lengths (by 1/4" and shape-wise); that board had the best feel for pop shuvits tho.