Twin tail

[Xen]

https://habitatskateboards.com/products/apex-bold-green-8-25-twin
https://habitatskateboards.com/products/apex-bold-blue-8-375-twin
https://habitatskateboards.com/products/apex-bold-white-8-5-twin

I'm probably the rare few who enjoys the Habitat Twin shapes, but they are now available in 8.25 / 8.38 / 8.5
8.25 & 8.38 - L: 32.25, WB: 14.38
8.5 - L: 32.375, WB: 14.25, thought this was an off measurement but I just checked and it is actually that long

I'm on my last bigboyfoy twin and it's starting to get soft. Been skating bigger boards (8.5), bigger wheels (54mm) and bigger trucks (8.75") so fuck it - I bought the 8.5 habitat (was gonna bite on the 8.5 crail but can't commit to that 14" WB).

Usually I stick to twin nose or hybrids but I'm hoping the longer kicks will give me a bit more leverage popping out of stuff (especially with pop-over tricks).

Hopefully I like it now vs when I rode the 8.3 twin, just wasn't vibing with it back then as I was riding short/under 8.3 and small WB bloards.

[Xen]

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10804.msg4127250#msg4127250

From the setup thread - 8.5 habitat apex

[goodatmeth]

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10804.msg4127250#msg4127250

From the setup thread - 8.5 habitat apex

And is it really really 100% 14.25? I had one of the older habitat twins, expecting 14.25 and it ended up being 14.4 or something.

[Xen]

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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10804.msg4127250#msg4127250

From the setup thread - 8.5 habitat apex

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And is it really really 100% 14.25? I had one of the older habitat twins, expecting 14.25 and it ended up being 14.4 or something.

Up until recently, the only habitat twin was the 8.3 and it was always listed as 14.3x (same as it is for this recent drop).

The 8.5 measures true enough to listed manu dims (i'd argue it's a mm shorter on length, but w/e, there's always going to be some variance unless you are making your shit at DSM):

8.5 x 32.375 x 14.25 - I set it up with indys first and hated it (I dislike indy/ace on 14.25 WB boards); swapped to royals and it was spot on (they push out just a bit more than indy but less than venture, right around a thunder).

It's def longer compared to the DW Foy I was riding which was 31.875ish with short round tails vs long noses (and they are noses despite the official 'twin tail' description) on the apex (I don't have to angle so much with krooks on the apex with the longer kicks).

[rocklobster]

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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10804.msg4127250#msg4127250

From the setup thread - 8.5 habitat apex

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And is it really really 100% 14.25? I had one of the older habitat twins, expecting 14.25 and it ended up being 14.4 or something.

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Up until recently, the only habitat twin was the 8.3 and it was always listed as 14.3x (same as it is for this recent drop).

The 8.5 measures true enough to listed manu dims (i'd argue it's a mm shorter on length, but w/e, there's always going to be some variance unless you are making your shit at DSM):

8.5 x 32.375 x 14.25 - I set it up with indys first and hated it (I dislike indy/ace on 14.25 WB boards); swapped to royals and it was spot on (they push out just a bit more than indy but less than venture, right around a thunder).

It's def longer compared to the DW Foy I was riding which was 31.875ish with short round tails vs long noses (and they are noses despite the official 'twin tail' description) on the apex (I don't have to angle so much with krooks on the apex with the longer kicks).

Setup a fresh 8.5 Apex just yesterday and the increased length (overall length and shortened WB) was very noticeable especially after riding the 8.38. Even on Venture Forged the kicks felt really long.

[Xen]

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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10804.msg4127250#msg4127250

From the setup thread - 8.5 habitat apex

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And is it really really 100% 14.25? I had one of the older habitat twins, expecting 14.25 and it ended up being 14.4 or something.

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Up until recently, the only habitat twin was the 8.3 and it was always listed as 14.3x (same as it is for this recent drop).

The 8.5 measures true enough to listed manu dims (i'd argue it's a mm shorter on length, but w/e, there's always going to be some variance unless you are making your shit at DSM):

8.5 x 32.375 x 14.25 - I set it up with indys first and hated it (I dislike indy/ace on 14.25 WB boards); swapped to royals and it was spot on (they push out just a bit more than indy but less than venture, right around a thunder).

It's def longer compared to the DW Foy I was riding which was 31.875ish with short round tails vs long noses (and they are noses despite the official 'twin tail' description) on the apex (I don't have to angle so much with krooks on the apex with the longer kicks).

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Setup a fresh 8.5 Apex just yesterday and the increased length (overall length and shortened WB) was very noticeable especially after riding the 8.38. Even on Venture Forged the kicks felt really long.

It's weird to me they went with the longer WB on the narrower / shorter board (8.3) and vice versa on the wider longer one (8.5)....unless that's just a suciu thing since he's been riding the 8.3...the short WB with the 8.25" seems about right tho.

What trucks did you pair with it?

[rocklobster]

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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10804.msg4127250#msg4127250

From the setup thread - 8.5 habitat apex

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And is it really really 100% 14.25? I had one of the older habitat twins, expecting 14.25 and it ended up being 14.4 or something.

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Up until recently, the only habitat twin was the 8.3 and it was always listed as 14.3x (same as it is for this recent drop).

The 8.5 measures true enough to listed manu dims (i'd argue it's a mm shorter on length, but w/e, there's always going to be some variance unless you are making your shit at DSM):

8.5 x 32.375 x 14.25 - I set it up with indys first and hated it (I dislike indy/ace on 14.25 WB boards); swapped to royals and it was spot on (they push out just a bit more than indy but less than venture, right around a thunder).

It's def longer compared to the DW Foy I was riding which was 31.875ish with short round tails vs long noses (and they are noses despite the official 'twin tail' description) on the apex (I don't have to angle so much with krooks on the apex with the longer kicks).

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Setup a fresh 8.5 Apex just yesterday and the increased length (overall length and shortened WB) was very noticeable especially after riding the 8.38. Even on Venture Forged the kicks felt really long.

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It's weird to me they went with the longer WB on the narrower / shorter board (8.3) and vice versa on the wider longer one (8.5)....unless that's just a suciu thing since he's been riding the 8.3...the short WB with the 8.25" seems about right tho.

What trucks did you pair with it?

Be nice if they scaled the dimension with width, 8.25 x 32 x 14.25 sounds like a good time.

Went with Venture Forged, could just be the cold start because after 20 minutes I was getting the timing, but the longer nose and tail was making flips tricky.

[Micki Free]

Looks like Thank You and Toy Machine with some twin shapes now.

https://www.tactics.com/search/twin/skateboard-decks

Idk if old news but i went back a few pages and didnt see anyone else post

[marcusbutler]

Looks like Thank You and Toy Machine with some twin shapes now.

https://www.tactics.com/search/twin/skateboard-decks

Idk if old news but i went back a few pages and didnt see anyone else post

That welcome looks sick! More like a twin nose(6.75). Been looking for an 8" twin to try. Also 14" WB! This is rare coming from welcome. Love the name "evil twin".
https://www.tactics.com/welcome/clairvoyant-80-evil-twin-shape-skateboard-deck/black

[goodatmeth]

Looks like Thank You and Toy Machine with some twin shapes now.

https://www.tactics.com/search/twin/skateboard-decks

Idk if old news but i went back a few pages and didnt see anyone else post

Can anybody confirm that toy actually makes twins? Not gonna trust tactics on that one

[Theme For A Jackal]

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Looks like Thank You and Toy Machine with some twin shapes now.

https://www.tactics.com/search/twin/skateboard-decks

Idk if old news but i went back a few pages and didnt see anyone else post

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Can anybody confirm that toy actually makes twins? Not gonna trust tactics on that one

Listed as symmetrical on Toy's website

[Xen]

Looks like Thank You and Toy Machine with some twin shapes now.

https://www.tactics.com/search/twin/skateboard-decks

Idk if old news but i went back a few pages and didnt see anyone else post

Good looks!

Thank you twin been out for a min….but it's thank you....

Now that toy machine...if the dims are true that's my next one to sample.

[Micki Free]

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Looks like Thank You and Toy Machine with some twin shapes now.

https://www.tactics.com/search/twin/skateboard-decks

Idk if old news but i went back a few pages and didnt see anyone else post

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Good looks!

Thank you twin been out for a min….but it's thank you....

Now that toy machine...if the dims are true that's my next one to sample.

No problem! I wonder if Daewon actually rides the twin given his truck setup is so funky.

[Xen]

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Looks like Thank You and Toy Machine with some twin shapes now.

https://www.tactics.com/search/twin/skateboard-decks

Idk if old news but i went back a few pages and didnt see anyone else post

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Good looks!

Thank you twin been out for a min….but it's thank you....

Now that toy machine...if the dims are true that's my next one to sample.

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No problem! I wonder if Daewon actually rides the twin given his truck setup is so funky.

With his trucks, doubt it; just a board with his name on it.

[rocklobster]

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Looks like Thank You and Toy Machine with some twin shapes now.

https://www.tactics.com/search/twin/skateboard-decks

Idk if old news but i went back a few pages and didnt see anyone else post

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Good looks!

Thank you twin been out for a min….but it's thank you....

Now that toy machine...if the dims are true that's my next one to sample.

PS Stix so I'll pass, which other brands does PS Stix do Twins for?

I doubt Thank You is pressed at Clutch, the K mold is their standard shape. Could be Tactics recycling images.

[Xen]

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Looks like Thank You and Toy Machine with some twin shapes now.

https://www.tactics.com/search/twin/skateboard-decks

Idk if old news but i went back a few pages and didnt see anyone else post

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Good looks!

Thank you twin been out for a min….but it's thank you....

Now that toy machine...if the dims are true that's my next one to sample.

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PS Stix so I'll pass, which other brands does PS Stix do Twins for?

I doubt Thank You is pressed at Clutch, the K mold is their standard shape. Could be Tactics recycling images.

Not sure they do anything else twin; everything twin seems to come out of BBS (barring NHS twins which are just DSM boards; which they'd do something bigger than the 8.25" mold they use).

[Micki Free]

Whats the gripe against ps stix and clutch? Ive been on bbs wood for a while so not familiar with the others

[moonordie]

Whats the gripe against ps stix and clutch? Ive been on bbs wood for a while so not familiar with the others

In my experience PS lasts 2 weeks and then they became soggy. Clutch the same but that comes from day one.

[Fast_Freddie]

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Looks like Thank You and Toy Machine with some twin shapes now.

https://www.tactics.com/search/twin/skateboard-decks

Idk if old news but i went back a few pages and didnt see anyone else post

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That welcome looks sick! More like a twin nose(6.75). Been looking for an 8" twin to try. Also 14" WB! This is rare coming from welcome. Love the name "evil twin".
https://www.tactics.com/welcome/clairvoyant-80-evil-twin-shape-skateboard-deck/black

I skated one a few months ago and enjoyed it, however I hate the graphic and the glitter underlayer... the shape and concave was awesome, but since they can be hard to source from my local, I just skate the 8.0 Ishod twin or the shop twins they have

[rocklobster]

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Whats the gripe against ps stix and clutch? Ive been on bbs wood for a while so not familiar with the others

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In my experience PS lasts 2 weeks and then they became soggy. Clutch the same but that comes from day one.

What he said about PS Stix, had a good time on my last Clutch deck which felt stiffer than a BBS but less than a DSM R7.

[Xen]

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Whats the gripe against ps stix and clutch? Ive been on bbs wood for a while so not familiar with the others

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In my experience PS lasts 2 weeks and then they became soggy. Clutch the same but that comes from day one.

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What he said about PS Stix, had a good time on my last Clutch deck which felt stiffer than a BBS but less than a DSM R7.

Yep, 2 weeks or so and PS sogs out...but if you are skating a lot/'every day then it's no big deal I guess...board is probably done anyway at that point.

If I remember right, clutch used to chip/razor tail easy; been a minute since I've ridden one.

[Micki Free]

Good stuff, thanks yall. I actually like the mellowish kicks yet steep concave of the ishod 8.25 deck atm but maybe ill try somethin else next time

[frank1175]

Hey guys, after using several Deluxe 8.3 Twins for quite a while, skating non-twin tail decks the past year, having some serious board madness along the way, it seems that a year later I am back on the Welcome 8.5" Evil Twin, it's one of the best shapes I've skated, they seem to last a long time and I am gonna try to stick with that one to get some consistency

[Mbrimson88]

Hey guys, after using several Deluxe 8.3 Twins for quite a while, skating non-twin tail decks the past year, having some serious board madness along the way, it seems that a year later I am back on the Welcome 8.5" Evil Twin, it's one of the best shapes I've skated, they seem to last a long time and I am gonna try to stick with that one to get some consistency

Was it the twin shapes that Welcome are not doing in the next drop or so, someone else said?

Stock up on them while you can any which way, if you like that shape, cause you never know when you might get more.

[Xen]

yeah was welcome...still some out there if you look hard enough...I usually buy more soon after if like the shape.

[frank1175]

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Hey guys, after using several Deluxe 8.3 Twins for quite a while, skating non-twin tail decks the past year, having some serious board madness along the way, it seems that a year later I am back on the Welcome 8.5" Evil Twin, it's one of the best shapes I've skated, they seem to last a long time and I am gonna try to stick with that one to get some consistency

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Was it the twin shapes that Welcome are not doing in the next drop or so, someone else said?

Stock up on them while you can any which way, if you like that shape, cause you never know when you might get more.

Yeah, they told me somewhere in 2024. I’ve still got two on ice though 😃

[ChuckRamone]

Has anyone skated a Toy Machine twin?

https://www.tactics.com/toy-machine/bury-the-hatchet-825-symmetrical-shape-skateboard-deck

I've skated AWS, Welcome, Deathwish, Real, Santa Cruz, and Thank You twin tails but never any Tum Yeto ones. My favorites have been the Welcome, AWS, Deathwish, and Real decks.

[Xen]

Has anyone skated a Toy Machine twin?

https://www.tactics.com/toy-machine/bury-the-hatchet-825-symmetrical-shape-skateboard-deck

I've skated AWS, Welcome, Deathwish, Real, Santa Cruz, and Thank You twin tails but never any Tum Yeto ones. My favorites have been the Welcome, AWS, Deathwish, and Real decks.

not yet most of us interested in twin tails just learned about it the other day; it’s next on my list!

[frank1175]

Has anyone skated a Toy Machine twin?

https://www.tactics.com/toy-machine/bury-the-hatchet-825-symmetrical-shape-skateboard-deck

I've skated AWS, Welcome, Deathwish, Real, Santa Cruz, and Thank You twin tails but never any Tum Yeto ones. My favorites have been the Welcome, AWS, Deathwish, and Real decks.

another 8.25". Would like so see more 8.5" or 8.75" Twin Tail options. Would like to see an 8.5" Powell Flight deck (244 shape but symmetrical) as well

[WideFeet]

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Has anyone skated a Toy Machine twin?

https://www.tactics.com/toy-machine/bury-the-hatchet-825-symmetrical-shape-skateboard-deck

I've skated AWS, Welcome, Deathwish, Real, Santa Cruz, and Thank You twin tails but never any Tum Yeto ones. My favorites have been the Welcome, AWS, Deathwish, and Real decks.

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another 8.25". Would like so see more 8.5" or 8.75" Twin Tail options. Would like to see an 8.5" Powell Flight deck (244 shape but symmetrical) as well

That Toy Machine deck he’s talking about is also available in 8.5. Don’t know if Tactics has it, but they did make them