Twin tail

[Frank and Fred]

Spring 2024 catalog. Looks like 8 5/8" wheel base and slightly longer tails than the 8.5"

[badger.]

Spring 2024 catalog? They've only just released the Fall 2023 Holiday catalog, right?

I don't know that I've seen a Real twin above 8.5" (I hope you're right, though!).

[crescentfresh]

Spring 2024 catalog. Looks like 8 5/8" wheel base and slightly longer tails than the 8.5"

i wish someone would make a wide (8.75 or 9) twin popsicle without a long wheelbase. real and welcome both get over 14.5"  in wider sizes (the welcome 8.75 has a 14.75 wheelbase, geez). heroin seems to be about the only company making wide twins with short wbs, but just on eggs. but i would very happy if someone told me i'm wrong!

[Mbrimson88]

Spring 2024 catalog? They've only just released the Fall 2023 Holiday catalog, right?

I don't know that I've seen a Real twin above 8.5" (I hope you're right, though!).

There are a lot of shop people and other "associates" on here, who have access to see / order product, so the insider info is out well in advance, compared to what any other person would see once any brand puts up a new catalog online.

You could say there is always a fair bit of inside info floating around too, but in general it is usually kept under wraps until things come out, or at least until someone posts something about it and then everyone else knows too.


And yes that twin 8.75 shape looks pretty good, sizing up and decent dimensions that would work nicely for people who want a larger board with slightly longer wb / kicks.

[Frank and Fred]

Also if you are an internet sleuth you can find upcoming catalogs online, easy enough.

And Cal Skate has it up for pre-order already,

https://calsk8.com/collections/decks/products/real-skateboards-ishod-wair-cat-scratch-assorted-sized-twin-tip-deck-pre-order

[badger.]

There are a lot of shop people and other "associates" on here, who have access to see / order product, so the insider info is out well in advance, compared to what any other person would see once any brand puts up a new catalog online.

You could say there is always a fair bit of inside info floating around too, but in general it is usually kept under wraps until things come out, or at least until someone posts something about it and then everyone else knows too.

And Cal Skate has it up for pre-order already

Thank you both! 🙏

[Mbrimson88]

Also if you are an internet sleuth you can find upcoming catalogs online, easy enough.

And Cal Skate has it up for pre-order already,

https://calsk8.com/collections/decks/products/real-skateboards-ishod-wair-cat-scratch-assorted-sized-twin-tip-deck-pre-order

Ha yeah, superior sleuthing skills???


But that's interesting Cal Sk8 is really trying to get a handle on the early market for product.  At least if it is out there, it is not a worry to provide all the specs and details.

[rocklobster]

Not a new shape but I'm liking McCrank's new Twin Tip graphic, I've swore off Crailtap decks but this could lure me back.

Also it's McCrank!

[moonordie]

Not a new shape but I'm liking McCrank's new Twin Tip graphic, I've swore off Crailtap decks but this could lure me back.

Also it's McCrank!

We all love McCrank

[Xen]

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Not a new shape but I'm liking McCrank's new Twin Tip graphic, I've swore off Crailtap decks but this could lure me back.

Also it's McCrank!

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We all love McCrank

Saw this today, really tempted but I just know the 14" won't work for me, regardless of truck =(

[smg1138]

Not a new shape but I'm liking McCrank's new Twin Tip graphic, I've swore off Crailtap decks but this could lure me back.

Also it's McCrank!

Anybody skated this shape on Indy's? I'm really curious but it feels like these kind of shapes are designed to work better on Thunders.

[WashingtonNECKTIE]

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Not a new shape but I'm liking McCrank's new Twin Tip graphic, I've swore off Crailtap decks but this could lure me back.

Also it's McCrank!

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Anybody skated this shape on Indy's? I'm really curious but it feels like these kind of shapes are designed to work better on Thunders.

Skated a couple G096 (8.5 model) on Indy 149s. WB certainly felt small, but I wouldn't say cramped (i'm a short wheelbase lover tho so keep that in mind). I just kinda went wide stance and kept my feet closer to over the bolts for most tricks

Honestly, that set-up is one of my favorite in the recent past. Something about it just felt "right". Beautiful dims, strong wood that broke into a nice flexi-ness, super middle of the road concave.

FUCK i gotta buy another one now....

[Xen]

Bought a Worrest twin slick today instead...the 14.4 WB is more my stance...a bit bummed it's not an 8.5+ but you gotta do what you gotta do; hoping 159s on it won't be to crazy.

[Xen]

Coming off the Foy, the DLX 8.3 twin is an easy jump, probably should have been skating these more.

Was able to see/step on the crail G096 today, wow, what a kick! the shape look amazing (and kinda big even for an 8.25...but that WB).

Those that have ridden the DLX 8.3 or even the foy, which is probably no one, how does the G096 really feel? The kicks are long compared to the foy and seemingly the DLX...is the 14" WB on it that noticeable? FWIW, the 8.25" primitives I usually skate have long kicks (tail being comparable to the G096's) and the 14" WB works just fine.

[goodatmeth]

Coming off the Foy, the DLX 8.3 twin is an easy jump, probably should have been skating these more.

Was able to see/step on the crail G096 today, wow, what a kick! the shape look amazing (and kinda big even for an 8.25...but that WB).

Those that have ridden the DLX 8.3 or even the foy, which is probably no one, how does the G096 really feel? The kicks are long compared to the foy and seemingly the DLX...is the 14" WB on it that noticeable? FWIW, the 8.25" primitives I usually skate have long kicks (tail being comparable to the G096's) and the 14" WB works just fine.

I can tell you the following:
Dlx 8.3 (III, I think) with thunder titanium lights and 51mm wheels pops exactly like the crail twin with venture lights and 54mm wheels. I tried everything else on the crail and nothing felt even slightly fine because the pop felt way too light for me.

[Xen]

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Coming off the Foy, the DLX 8.3 twin is an easy jump, probably should have been skating these more.

Was able to see/step on the crail G096 today, wow, what a kick! the shape look amazing (and kinda big even for an 8.25...but that WB).

Those that have ridden the DLX 8.3 or even the foy, which is probably no one, how does the G096 really feel? The kicks are long compared to the foy and seemingly the DLX...is the 14" WB on it that noticeable? FWIW, the 8.25" primitives I usually skate have long kicks (tail being comparable to the G096's) and the 14" WB works just fine.

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I can tell you the following:
Dlx 8.3 (III, I think) with thunder titanium lights and 51mm wheels pops exactly like the crail twin with venture lights and 54mm wheels. I tried everything else on the crail and nothing felt even slightly fine because the pop felt way too light for me.

I set up 5.8 ventures cast hollows on the Worrest (it's a IV, thankfully). but unsure on wheels (52/53/54); it fucking poured last night so no skate today to try it out.

Probably should have bitten with those recent 30% off sales...hell even got the worrest after the sales were over.../sigh

[wax poetic]

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Not a new shape but I'm liking McCrank's new Twin Tip graphic, I've swore off Crailtap decks but this could lure me back.

Also it's McCrank!

[close]

Anybody skated this shape on Indy's? I'm really curious but it feels like these kind of shapes are designed to work better on Thunders.

[close]

Skated a couple G096 (8.5 model) on Indy 149s. WB certainly felt small, but I wouldn't say cramped (i'm a short wheelbase lover tho so keep that in mind). I just kinda went wide stance and kept my feet closer to over the bolts for most tricks

Honestly, that set-up is one of my favorite in the recent past. Something about it just felt "right". Beautiful dims, strong wood that broke into a nice flexi-ness, super middle of the road concave.

FUCK i gotta buy another one now....

Is the 96 twin tail and the 69 twin nose?  I've skated a few 69's and they are my favorite shape I can remember by far.  I had commented on a crail post on the gram if they made a twin McCrank it would be all I'd buy and I really like that graphic but I need to look into the difference.  I didn't know crail had two different twins.  Also pissed it dropped right after I spent $$$ on the pop secret 69

[goodatmeth]

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Not a new shape but I'm liking McCrank's new Twin Tip graphic, I've swore off Crailtap decks but this could lure me back.

Also it's McCrank!

[close]

Anybody skated this shape on Indy's? I'm really curious but it feels like these kind of shapes are designed to work better on Thunders.

[close]

Skated a couple G096 (8.5 model) on Indy 149s. WB certainly felt small, but I wouldn't say cramped (i'm a short wheelbase lover tho so keep that in mind). I just kinda went wide stance and kept my feet closer to over the bolts for most tricks

Honestly, that set-up is one of my favorite in the recent past. Something about it just felt "right". Beautiful dims, strong wood that broke into a nice flexi-ness, super middle of the road concave.

FUCK i gotta buy another one now....

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Is the 96 twin tail and the 69 twin nose?  I've skated a few 69's and they are my favorite shape I can remember by far.  I had commented on a crail post on the gram if they made a twin McCrank it would be all I'd buy and I really like that graphic but I need to look into the difference.  I didn't know crail had two different twins.  Also pissed it dropped right after I spent $$$ on the pop secret 69

Same shape but in 8.5

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Not a new shape but I'm liking McCrank's new Twin Tip graphic, I've swore off Crailtap decks but this could lure me back.

Also it's McCrank!

[close]

Anybody skated this shape on Indy's? I'm really curious but it feels like these kind of shapes are designed to work better on Thunders.

[close]

Skated a couple G096 (8.5 model) on Indy 149s. WB certainly felt small, but I wouldn't say cramped (i'm a short wheelbase lover tho so keep that in mind). I just kinda went wide stance and kept my feet closer to over the bolts for most tricks

Honestly, that set-up is one of my favorite in the recent past. Something about it just felt "right". Beautiful dims, strong wood that broke into a nice flexi-ness, super middle of the road concave.

FUCK i gotta buy another one now....

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Is the 96 twin tail and the 69 twin nose?  I've skated a few 69's and they are my favorite shape I can remember by far.  I had commented on a crail post on the gram if they made a twin McCrank it would be all I'd buy and I really like that graphic but I need to look into the difference.  I didn't know crail had two different twins.  Also pissed it dropped right after I spent $$$ on the pop secret 69

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Same shape but in 8.5

Thank you!  Would gnar if I still had pal status

[Xen]

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Not a new shape but I'm liking McCrank's new Twin Tip graphic, I've swore off Crailtap decks but this could lure me back.

Also it's McCrank!

[close]

Anybody skated this shape on Indy's? I'm really curious but it feels like these kind of shapes are designed to work better on Thunders.

[close]

Skated a couple G096 (8.5 model) on Indy 149s. WB certainly felt small, but I wouldn't say cramped (i'm a short wheelbase lover tho so keep that in mind). I just kinda went wide stance and kept my feet closer to over the bolts for most tricks

Honestly, that set-up is one of my favorite in the recent past. Something about it just felt "right". Beautiful dims, strong wood that broke into a nice flexi-ness, super middle of the road concave.

FUCK i gotta buy another one now....

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Is the 96 twin tail and the 69 twin nose?  I've skated a few 69's and they are my favorite shape I can remember by far.  I had commented on a crail post on the gram if they made a twin McCrank it would be all I'd buy and I really like that graphic but I need to look into the difference.  I didn't know crail had two different twins.  Also pissed it dropped right after I spent $$$ on the pop secret 69

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Same shape but in 8.5

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Thank you!  Would gnar if I still had pal status

I gotchoo

[Micki Free]

Coming off the Foy, the DLX 8.3 twin is an easy jump, probably should have been skating these more.

Was able to see/step on the crail G096 today, wow, what a kick! the shape look amazing (and kinda big even for an 8.25...but that WB).

Those that have ridden the DLX 8.3 or even the foy, which is probably no one, how does the G096 really feel? The kicks are long compared to the foy and seemingly the DLX...is the 14" WB on it that noticeable? FWIW, the 8.25" primitives I usually skate have long kicks (tail being comparable to the G096's) and the 14" WB works just fine.

Ive actually ridden those 3 Xen and my thoughts are this..

Ive found i prefer mellow kicks but still steep concave, it just helps my flip tricks more, so the ishod/worrest decks are my fav. The foy was still mellowish kicks and slightly less concave, so it was pretty close actually behind the dlx ones. The girl twin i had definitely felt steeper with bigger kicks and mellow concave which is like the polar opposite of what i like so i struggled on it. But again thats just me. I actually pulled a Neen and tried to flatten the kicks out with my car wheel but it still didnt work for me lol.

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Not a new shape but I'm liking McCrank's new Twin Tip graphic, I've swore off Crailtap decks but this could lure me back.

Also it's McCrank!

[close]

Anybody skated this shape on Indy's? I'm really curious but it feels like these kind of shapes are designed to work better on Thunders.

[close]

Skated a couple G096 (8.5 model) on Indy 149s. WB certainly felt small, but I wouldn't say cramped (i'm a short wheelbase lover tho so keep that in mind). I just kinda went wide stance and kept my feet closer to over the bolts for most tricks

Honestly, that set-up is one of my favorite in the recent past. Something about it just felt "right". Beautiful dims, strong wood that broke into a nice flexi-ness, super middle of the road concave.

FUCK i gotta buy another one now....

[close]

Is the 96 twin tail and the 69 twin nose?  I've skated a few 69's and they are my favorite shape I can remember by far.  I had commented on a crail post on the gram if they made a twin McCrank it would be all I'd buy and I really like that graphic but I need to look into the difference.  I didn't know crail had two different twins.  Also pissed it dropped right after I spent $$$ on the pop secret 69

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Same shape but in 8.5

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Thank you!  Would gnar if I still had pal status

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I gotchoo

Thank you

[Xen]

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Coming off the Foy, the DLX 8.3 twin is an easy jump, probably should have been skating these more.

Was able to see/step on the crail G096 today, wow, what a kick! the shape look amazing (and kinda big even for an 8.25...but that WB).

Those that have ridden the DLX 8.3 or even the foy, which is probably no one, how does the G096 really feel? The kicks are long compared to the foy and seemingly the DLX...is the 14" WB on it that noticeable? FWIW, the 8.25" primitives I usually skate have long kicks (tail being comparable to the G096's) and the 14" WB works just fine.

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Ive actually ridden those 3 Xen and my thoughts are this..

Ive found i prefer mellow kicks but still steep concave, it just helps my flip tricks more, so the ishod/worrest decks are my fav. The foy was still mellowish kicks and slightly less concave, so it was pretty close actually behind the dlx ones. The girl twin i had definitely felt steeper with bigger kicks and mellow concave which is like the polar opposite of what i like so i struggled on it. But again thats just me. I actually pulled a Neen and tried to flatten the kicks out with my car wheel but it still didnt work for me lol.

I really like the foy, it was really mellow, but I've ridden others that were steeper (different number in the press I guess); the 14.28 WB felt fine, worrest wb feels fine (my non-twin chocolate - G057 at 15"wb feels very 'pop' heavy, don't like it).

Skated the worrest yesterday and today, it's just too narrow (it measures 8.28" so close enough)....guess I'm just an 8.5 rider these days.

[Xen]

Madness? What Madness...



Left to Right

DLX Slick (IV) 8.3" - Twin Tail (BBS)
Habitat 8.5" Apex Twin Nose (BBS)
Quasi 8.375" Twin Tail (BBS)
Foy 8.5" Twin Tail (BBS)
Toy Machine 8.5" Twin Nose (PS)

DLX/Foy/Quasi are pretty much the same overall shape but with slightly different kick/board lengths - Concave is damn near the same, quasi is a just a hair steeper - DLX being the longest WB @14.4, the other two at 14.25 (foy is listed at .28 but isn't). Quasi is more like an 8.28 x31.5" (vs the 8.375" x 31.75" listed. I like the Foy shape the best of the three (followed by the quasi); been riding 8.5s a lot so the DLX and quasi feel super small and cramped compared to the Foy and Habitat.

The Habitat is just a tank, big ass 7" kicks but too long @32.3", gives off longboard vibes even with a 14.25" WB. just hate it (liek the 8.375 version I rode ages ago).

Toy Machine (haven't skated will come back with thoughts).
8.5"x32"x14.25" / 6.88" kicks (but in RAILTY) 8.3875"x31.9"x14.25" / 6.75" kicks

It's is more of a traditional popsicle nose, i.e., long/rounded/full (whereas the habitat is that Sovereign Sect/Hab/AWS sorta long square shovel full); Reminds me of the Disorder board's nose I rode (and enjoyed).



It's also FLAT AS FUCK compared to any other deck, twin or not, I have on hand. Kinda excited for a flat concave (look at that above pic) and mellow kicks...little over 2 fingers of flat (so more than the others) I was going to slap indys on it but now I'm seriously considering Ventures (or even thunders).

[rocklobster]

Madness? What Madness...



Left to Right

DLX Slick (IV) 8.3" - Twin Tail (BBS)
Habitat 8.5" Apex Twin Nose (BBS)
Quasi 8.375" Twin Tail (BBS)
Foy 8.5" Twin Tail (BBS)
Toy Machine 8.5" Twin Nose (PS)

DLX/Foy/Quasi are pretty much the same overall shape but with slightly different kick/board lengths - Concave is damn near the same, quasi is a just a hair steeper - DLX being the longest WB @14.4, the other two at 14.25 (foy is listed at .28 but isn't). Quasi is more like an 8.28 x31.5" (vs the 8.375" x 31.75" listed. I like the Foy shape the best of the three (followed by the quasi); been riding 8.5s a lot so the DLX and quasi feel super small and cramped compared to the Foy and Habitat.

The Habitat is just a tank, big ass 7" kicks but too long @32.3", gives off longboard vibes even with a 14.25" WB. just hate it (liek the 8.375 version I rode ages ago).

The DW Foy looks interesting, managed to get the Quasi twin 8.38 over Xmas and I'm excited to add that to the line up. Riding the Habitat 8.5 twin now and it is beastly long, even with Venture Forged. Wish they stuck with the dimensions of the 8.25 / 8.38, or just made them in 32".

[Xen]

The Foy is def my fav 8.5 so far; it's super easy/comfy to skate (it measures a hair under 32 as well), it's perfectly middle of the road when it comes to concave/kicks and shape, and if actually skates more like an 8.3ish. But like the quasi and worrest the kicks do feel a bit short (but that might be the habitat talking). Does your quasi measure true?

I've ridden 4 Foys, the current one is on it's way out (but I've been skating it more directionally to make it last) with one left on ice I recently nabbed for free...should have grabbed a few since they are only available via baker bros site (at that $75 premium).

Hoping the Toy works out and they keep it in rotation (I'll grab a couple if I end up liking it).
It's also thinner/light feeling by comparison, but that's why it's gonna sog out in two weeks.

I cannot stand the Habitat twin...ideally I'd be 32"x8.5" with the longer wb and then scale down accordingly...having the 8.3 be as long but with the longer wb is just....weird...I blame Suciu. I did like the longer kicks, I felt more comfortable doing switch/fakie slappy/tricks with more kick room.




Now...149 Thunder Ti, 5.8 Venture Hollow or 149 Indy ti....with either cast hollow or forged hollow plates...leaning towards Forged thunder / indy as I don't want to push out the WB too much.

[Frank and Fred]

The new Ishod series is out, including the 8.75".

[goodatmeth]

The new Ishod series is out, including the 8.75".

Where?

[Mbrimson88]

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The new Ishod series is out, including the 8.75".

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Where?

Tactics has them up.

No pics on the listing, but you don't need a pic when you know it is a twin.


https://www.tactics.com/real/ishod-cat-scratch-875-twin-tail-shape-skateboard-deck


SPECS
SIZE   8.75
LENGTH (IN):   32.61
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.68
NOSE (IN):   6.8
TAIL (IN):   6.8

[Xen]

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The new Ishod series is out, including the 8.75".

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Where?

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Tactics has them up.

No pics on the listing, but you don't need a pic when you know it is a twin.


https://www.tactics.com/real/ishod-cat-scratch-875-twin-tail-shape-skateboard-deck


SPECS
SIZE   8.75
LENGTH (IN):   32.61
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.68
NOSE (IN):   6.8
TAIL (IN):   6.8

LENGTH (IN):   32.61
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.68

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