Woodshop Directory 2020 Thread

[Brad Breath]

Add Drkrm to the BBS (bareback/generator) list.

Pendleton confirmed on Instagram and I picked one up this week.

I love their shapes ... and graphics, of course.

[lazer69]

Sunland skate shop posted some blanks on their gram. I asked who makes them. They said “turbo”

?? Is this for real ?

[Vintagebody]

Is it a thing where BBS ply's seperate at the tail/nose easly?
Seems to happen rather quick to all my BBS decks. Meanwhile my Enjoy R7 is still solid as a rock!

[TwisT]

Sunland skate shop posted some blanks on their gram. I asked who makes them. They said “turbo”

?? Is this for real ?

I got that ad too.

Turbo are cheap Chinese blanks. I bought a 5 for 50 pack from eBay when I was a kid. They were trash. Went through the box is less than a month. This around 05.

[lazer69]

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Sunland skate shop posted some blanks on their gram. I asked who makes them. They said “turbo”

?? Is this for real ?

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Thanks for letting me know

I got that ad too.

Turbo are cheap Chinese blanks. I bought a 5 for 50 pack from eBay when I was a kid. They were trash. Went through the box is less than a month. This around 05.

[rocklobster]

https://www.skateamerica.com/products/chocolate-anderson-icon-stencil-skateboard-deck-purple-8-125in-x-31-6in?variant=10141906051

Anyone know if these crailtap (chocolate) boards are the better ones or the shitty ones from China? Been looking to try wider deck with a shorter WB.

[TwisT]

https://www.skateamerica.com/products/chocolate-anderson-icon-stencil-skateboard-deck-purple-8-125in-x-31-6in?variant=10141906051

Anyone know if these crailtap (chocolate) boards are the better ones or the shitty ones from China? Been looking to try wider deck with a shorter WB.

Everything on Skate America is old AF. like 5 year old stock. When was shurriken shannon still on Santa Cruz? That's how old the inventory is. It's definitely old wood

[rocklobster]

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https://www.skateamerica.com/products/chocolate-anderson-icon-stencil-skateboard-deck-purple-8-125in-x-31-6in?variant=10141906051

Anyone know if these crailtap (chocolate) boards are the better ones or the shitty ones from China? Been looking to try wider deck with a shorter WB.

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Everything on Skate America is old AF. like 5 year old stock. When was shurriken shannon still on Santa Cruz? That's how old the inventory is. It's definitely old wood

They are still selling cliche boards too and they've been out of business of a while too. Thanks for the heads up.

[rocklobster]

Is anyone familiar with emillion skateboards? They are a company out of Barvaria and use the same dimensions carbon fiber technology (Fibertech) that I really liked in my Folklore deck (Australian company).

https://www.emillionfamily.com/summer-2019

I hit them up on Instagram asking which woodshop they use, but I suspect the usual "trade secret" answer.

[BALARGUE]

I don't know the specific woodshop but it's chinese for sure.

I had good feedbacks on the Fibertech ones

[rocklobster]

I don't know the specific woodshop but it's chinese for sure.

I had good feedbacks on the Fibertech ones

That was my guess too. Got a non-specific answer when I asked emillion on IG; nothing out of the ordinary.

[Big Baby Jesus]

Just got this traffic. Has the K8 imprint between the front trucks so it's a clutch. Asked the ToA insta about it and was told they're still generator but with covid they had to switch for a couple runs to still have boards. Said to expect a generator restock in the next 10 days.

[Sativa Lung]

Just got this traffic. Has the K8 imprint between the from trucks so it's a clutch. Asked the ToA insta about it and was told they're still generator but with covid they had to switch for a couple runs to still have boards. Said to expect a generator restock in the next 10 days.

They're not the only ones. I saw some Toy Machine decks on SoCal or SW that looked like they were on Clutch wood and I recently got a Lurkville deck that was as well.

I guess the fact that they have a bunch of pre-made size/shape combos means they keep more blanks in inventory and from their IG it looks they never stopped making decks. I've also heard that they have really fast turnaround times, probably because they don't have to press everything as the order comes in. While it's not my favorite, there's definitely worse wood to have to do runs on so I guess I'm cool with it.

What's the wheelbase on the K? I was a little disappointed that the P7 wb on my Lurkville was a little longer (around 14.4) than I usually like for medium/steep decks. I was able to somewhat mitigate it by using Theeves but it still feels a little off.

[Big Baby Jesus]

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Just got this traffic. Has the K8 imprint between the from trucks so it's a clutch. Asked the ToA insta about it and was told they're still generator but with covid they had to switch for a couple runs to still have boards. Said to expect a generator restock in the next 10 days.

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They're not the only ones. I saw some Toy Machine decks on SoCal or SW that looked like they were on Clutch wood and I recently got a Lurkville deck that was as well.

I guess the fact that they have a bunch of pre-made size/shape combos means they keep more blanks in inventory and from their IG it looks they never stopped making decks. I've also heard that they have really fast turnaround times, probably because they don't have to press everything as the order comes in. While it's not my favorite, there's definitely worse wood to have to do runs on so I guess I'm cool with it.

What's the wheelbase on the K? I was a little disappointed that the P7 wb on my Lurkville was a little longer (around 14.4) than I usually like for medium/steep decks. I was able to somewhat mitigate it by using Theeves but it still feels a little off.

I measured it prior to setup and it was 8.38 x 32 14.25 WB 7.25 N 6.75 T. I've had really good luck with hopps and traffic boards hitting that golden ratio for me on 5.8 ventures.

[ish_wav]

Out of sheer curiosity, I picked up one of the Danny Duncan Virginity Rocks decks are Zumiez the other day. I flipped it over and it looks like it’s BBS wood. Had the white and black warning sticker (albeit in the shape of Danny Duncan) and a “notch” on the nose.

[TwisT]

Out of sheer curiosity, I picked up one of the Danny Duncan Virginity Rocks decks are Zumiez the other day. I flipped it over and it looks like it’s BBS wood. Had the white and black warning sticker (albeit in the shape of Danny Duncan) and a “notch” on the nose.

If you've got a Zumiez deal its not hard to hit the minimum order for a BBS run. Other companies do the notch. I'm pretty sure my finesse board is woodchuck and they do a top notch

[Glurmpz]

We just got over 100 decks in at the shop and every Toy and Foundation board we got is pressed in China. Ewww. Tum Yeto switches up wood too much - if you're loyal to those brands it must be so frustrating to have to keep getting used to drastically different wood every couple years. Cool to see the Creager Trix reissue in there except it's on a random shitty china shape.

Meanwhile, local brand Jenny just got their order from BBS and the boards are much nicer than the usual generic shapes 80% of BBS clients get. Logo printed on top, laser etched dims, custom dye jobs so every board has the same lay up. Nice and steep. On top of all that, they wholesale for $50 while most other brands have crept up to around $60. We got something like 25 in and within 2 days had sold 3/4 of them.

[Junglist]

We just got over 100 decks in at the shop and every Toy and Foundation board we got is pressed in China. Ewww. Tum Yeto switches up wood too much - if you're loyal to those brands it must be so frustrating to have to keep getting used to drastically different wood every couple years. Cool to see the Creager Trix reissue in there except it's on a random shitty china shape.

Meanwhile, local brand Jenny just got their order from BBS and the boards are much nicer than the usual generic shapes 80% of BBS clients get. Logo printed on top, laser etched dims, custom dye jobs so every board has the same lay up. Nice and steep. On top of all that, they wholesale for $50 while most other brands have crept up to around $60. We got something like 25 in and within 2 days had sold 3/4 of them.

Do boards usually cost $35-$40 wholesale?

[BALARGUE]

Out of sheer curiosity, I picked up one of the Danny Duncan Virginity Rocks decks are Zumiez the other day. I flipped it over and it looks like it’s BBS wood. Had the white and black warning sticker (albeit in the shape of Danny Duncan) and a “notch” on the nose.

thanks for the info. Even if this board is BBS, Viriginity Rocks will always be about useless wood

[Ol Nick]

Does anybody recognize this top stamp? I thought maybe clutch but I don’t see an “X” shape on their website and slap wasn’t letting me include an X in my search.

[jtrpma]

I have not seen that mark or sticker on clutch

[Sativa Lung]

Does anybody recognize this top stamp? I thought maybe clutch but I don’t see an “X” shape on their website and slap wasn’t letting me include an X in my search.

Probably still clutch. They have more shapes than what's listed on the website, they haven't updated it for a while. I might be wrong believe the X is one of the newer ones, maybe the symmetrical one?

[BALARGUE]

this sticker really looks like the ones i got from clutch boards

[Sativa Lung]

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Out of sheer curiosity, I picked up one of the Danny Duncan Virginity Rocks decks are Zumiez the other day. I flipped it over and it looks like it’s BBS wood. Had the white and black warning sticker (albeit in the shape of Danny Duncan) and a “notch” on the nose.

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If you've got a Zumiez deal its not hard to hit the minimum order for a BBS run. Other companies do the notch. I'm pretty sure my finesse board is woodchuck and they do a top notch

PGI is another one that has the alignment divot that people often mistake for BBS (for example Blood Wizard is listed as BBS in this thread). It does feel pretty similar at first - they have similar stiffness - but PGI loses its pop a little faster. I don't know if that's because of the construction, the fact that every PGI deck I've seen/had is super mellow (probably amongst the flattest you'll find in most shops actually), or a combination of the two.

At any rate it's pretty good. I think it's probably my favorite non-special construction Chinese wood at the moment. I'm interested in trying one of the creature cold press decks but the graphics and dimensions they've released so far have been kinda meh.

[Ol Nick]

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Does anybody recognize this top stamp? I thought maybe clutch but I don’t see an “X” shape on their website and slap wasn’t letting me include an X in my search.

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Probably still clutch. They have more shapes than what's listed on the website, they haven't updated it for a while. I might be wrong believe the X is one of the newer ones, maybe the symmetrical one?

Thanks for the input y’all. I took it to the DMs and it is confirmed to be Clutch. My measurements in case anyone figures out how to search an X stamped deck in the future:
8.75 x 33 popsicle / 14.25WB / 7.25N / 7.0T / about 2 fingers.

[ppazos]

Does anybody know these boards? https://stokedrideshop.com/collections/decks/products/stoked-ride-shop-blank-deck-complete-7-75-green?variant=30712254300243

Want to find the specific shape, don't care about the brand. Thanks.

[Big Baby Jesus]

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Does anybody recognize this top stamp? I thought maybe clutch but I don’t see an “X” shape on their website and slap wasn’t letting me include an X in my search.

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Probably still clutch. They have more shapes than what's listed on the website, they haven't updated it for a while. I might be wrong believe the X is one of the newer ones, maybe the symmetrical one?

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Thanks for the input y’all. I took it to the DMs and it is confirmed to be Clutch. My measurements in case anyone figures out how to search an X stamped deck in the future:
8.75 x 33 popsicle / 14.25WB / 7.25N / 7.0T / about 2 fingers.

I'm on a traffic from clutch right now. Gotta say it's not great. Was awesome the first 3 days, about 5 hours but now feels soggy, a lot of give and overall dead. Idk if anyone else has the same experience. Hopefully ToA will have generator wood soon. Going back to krooked until then. 

[Sativa Lung]

I'm on a traffic from clutch right now. Gotta say it's not great. Was awesome the first 3 days, about 5 hours but now feels soggy, a lot of give and overall dead. Idk if anyone else has the same experience. Hopefully ToA will have generator wood soon. Going back to krooked until then.

I've some weird experiences with clutch where sometimes it feels pretty dead and others it feels great.  I hated the first one I had and was convinced clutch was just bad wood, then I set it up with theeves for a rain board and it suddenly felt great. Maybe try switching trucks or just being nice and telling it that it looks pretty and see if it cooperates again?

My overall impression of them is that they're very good but not quite on the level of BBS/PS/SC. I think it's very shape dependent though. The normal popsicles I've tried (K/P/G/S shapes) have been hit and miss and pretty meh, but the square one (O shape) has been awesome. I'm on my 3rd right now. It seems like they're really pumping out wood (or just had a lot of backstock inventory) right now so it wouldn't surprise me if the QC took a hit.

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Out of sheer curiosity, I picked up one of the Danny Duncan Virginity Rocks decks are Zumiez the other day. I flipped it over and it looks like it’s BBS wood. Had the white and black warning sticker (albeit in the shape of Danny Duncan) and a “notch” on the nose.

[close]

If you've got a Zumiez deal its not hard to hit the minimum order for a BBS run. Other companies do the notch. I'm pretty sure my finesse board is woodchuck and they do a top notch

[close]

PGI is another one that has the alignment divot that people often mistake for BBS (for example Blood Wizard is listed as BBS in this thread). It does feel pretty similar at first - they have similar stiffness - but PGI loses its pop a little faster. I don't know if that's because of the construction, the fact that every PGI deck I've seen/had is super mellow (probably amongst the flattest you'll find in most shops actually), or a combination of the two.

At any rate it's pretty good. I think it's probably my favorite non-special construction Chinese wood at the moment. I'm interested in trying one of the creature cold press decks but the graphics and dimensions they've released so far have been kinda meh.

Yeah, my bad. I just assumed because of the caution sticker! Is there like a sure fire way to tell that a deck is definitively from x Woodshop? (Other than like Clutch or Ps Stix)

[Sativa Lung]

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Out of sheer curiosity, I picked up one of the Danny Duncan Virginity Rocks decks are Zumiez the other day. I flipped it over and it looks like it’s BBS wood. Had the white and black warning sticker (albeit in the shape of Danny Duncan) and a “notch” on the nose.

[close]

If you've got a Zumiez deal its not hard to hit the minimum order for a BBS run. Other companies do the notch. I'm pretty sure my finesse board is woodchuck and they do a top notch

[close]

PGI is another one that has the alignment divot that people often mistake for BBS (for example Blood Wizard is listed as BBS in this thread). It does feel pretty similar at first - they have similar stiffness - but PGI loses its pop a little faster. I don't know if that's because of the construction, the fact that every PGI deck I've seen/had is super mellow (probably amongst the flattest you'll find in most shops actually), or a combination of the two.

At any rate it's pretty good. I think it's probably my favorite non-special construction Chinese wood at the moment. I'm interested in trying one of the creature cold press decks but the graphics and dimensions they've released so far have been kinda meh.

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Yeah, my bad. I just assumed because of the caution sticker! Is there like a sure fire way to tell that a deck is definitively from x Woodshop? (Other than like Clutch or Ps Stix)

Beyond just asking the company it's usually a bit of a guessing game but there's clues you can pick up on. For example Pennswood will have their stack stamp on the bottom between the tail truck holes, dwindle sometimes does just a serial # on the top, PGI puts stickers in weird places like the tail trucks holes on the top sheet or the nose holes on the bottom, south central decks often (but not always) have "Made in the USA" on the top graphic and has a unique bevel, if it has a sticker then that usually helps, just the general shape is sometimes a pretty good indicator like PGI will be flat and fairly short.  Just little shit you pick up on from spending way too much time on here and in shops.

It's not a science or anything and you should always take shit you read on here with a grain of salt because people are wrong a lot of the time, especially me. If you don't see anything that's a dead giveaway then emailing or DMing the company is the best way to go. If they're evasive about it or give a non-answer like "we use 100% maple!" then I usually get suspicious. You can sometimes use supply chain intel sites like panjiva to figure out exactly where it's coming from but that's nerd shit that most people who aren't insane like me aren't going to do.