Venture 2020

[Sedition]

These dudes are always accurate with measurements and confirm the tail is 6.625 on the 8.38, which is longer...

Skatedeluxe is certainly better than most other (e.g. Tactics) when it comes to accuracy. However, their site does contain errors. For one example, they list V-Hollows and V-Cast as having the same height (see links below).  I'd chalk a 6.625 claim ail as one of their mistakes, as it is wholly inconsistent with every 8.38 I've owned (which is not many, as it is one of my most hated DLX shapes).

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/venture-v-hollow-lights-all-polished-high-5-6-achse-silver-8-25_p131621?cPath=44&brand_id=98

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/venture-v-cast-hollow-kader-pro-5-6-achse-ravv-8-25_p161357?cPath=44&brand_id=98   

[LebowskisRug]

It's a stupid matter, but I'm heading to the shop tomorrow and will grab pics of the 8.25 and 8.38 as well. There's no way the 8.38 is under 6.5. I love that shape and can ride the Twin Tail just as well because it's the same exact tail but you get 2 of them. That one is consistently listed as 6.625.

[shawngreg]

i'm so curious about these measurements now

[Sedition]

It's a stupid matter, but I'm heading to the shop tomorrow and will grab pics of the 8.25 and 8.38 as well. There's no way the 8.38 is under 6.5. I love that shape and can ride the Twin Tail just as well because it's the same exact tail but you get 2 of them. That one is consistently listed as 6.625.

When I mentioned under 6.5, I mean it was a tiny amounts here, like 1/16th under. The ones I had very well could have just been odd-ball/bad sand jobs. The 6.625 seems out there to me…that’s like that 8.125 shape. Anyway, I’m curious to see what you find/see.

[rikki]

Third session on my first-ever Ventures. This time, an indoor park with all kinds of stuff from mannie pads and ditches to a miniramp and bigger transition. Smooth sailing. Not once did I feel like something was off with the trucks. I FEEL them.

In short: I fucking love these trucks. Prolly gonna get me an AWAKE t-shirt or something.

[SupremePizza]

am i the only one that likes short tails?

If FA 8.25 is considered short tail, then I think I enjoy short tails, at least compared to Girls 8.25. While the pop definitely feels heavy and more tiring, I find it very rewarding when I'm at my best

[LebowskisRug]

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It's a stupid matter, but I'm heading to the shop tomorrow and will grab pics of the 8.25 and 8.38 as well. There's no way the 8.38 is under 6.5. I love that shape and can ride the Twin Tail just as well because it's the same exact tail but you get 2 of them. That one is consistently listed as 6.625.

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When I mentioned under 6.5, I mean it was a tiny amounts here, like 1/16th under. The ones I had very well could have just been odd-ball/bad sand jobs. The 6.625 seems out there to me…that’s like that 8.125 shape. Anyway, I’m curious to see what you find/see.

Ya know, if you think about the difference in steepness between a I and IV and that we measure tail length as the base of a right triangle, the hypotenuse shortens the steeper the deck is and thus the base shortens as well. So, it is entirely possible that measuring straight across as we usually do would give different measurements.

[Sedition]

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It's a stupid matter, but I'm heading to the shop tomorrow and will grab pics of the 8.25 and 8.38 as well. There's no way the 8.38 is under 6.5. I love that shape and can ride the Twin Tail just as well because it's the same exact tail but you get 2 of them. That one is consistently listed as 6.625.

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When I mentioned under 6.5, I mean it was a tiny amounts here, like 1/16th under. The ones I had very well could have just been odd-ball/bad sand jobs. The 6.625 seems out there to me…that’s like that 8.125 shape. Anyway, I’m curious to see what you find/see.

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Ya know, if you think about the difference in steepness between a I and IV and that we measure tail length as the base of a right triangle, the hypotenuse shortens the steeper the deck is and thus the base shortens as well. So, it is entirely possible that measuring straight across as we usually do would give different measurements.

Was totally thinking exact same thing, too.

[AlumarX]

I bit the bullet on 8.2 v-lights to get the cast plate. Now I can mix and match.

My 7.75 cruiser is on Royals, is it worth being an idiot and putting venture los with 1/8 soft riser and dragons for asphalt crunching?

[LebowskisRug]

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It's a stupid matter, but I'm heading to the shop tomorrow and will grab pics of the 8.25 and 8.38 as well. There's no way the 8.38 is under 6.5. I love that shape and can ride the Twin Tail just as well because it's the same exact tail but you get 2 of them. That one is consistently listed as 6.625.

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When I mentioned under 6.5, I mean it was a tiny amounts here, like 1/16th under. The ones I had very well could have just been odd-ball/bad sand jobs. The 6.625 seems out there to me…that’s like that 8.125 shape. Anyway, I’m curious to see what you find/see.

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Ya know, if you think about the difference in steepness between a I and IV and that we measure tail length as the base of a right triangle, the hypotenuse shortens the steeper the deck is and thus the base shortens as well. So, it is entirely possible that measuring straight across as we usually do would give different measurements.

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Was totally thinking exact same thing, too.

DLX- I love you, but your Roman Numerals are really fucking with my gear madness.

[iw0]

I bit the bullet on 8.2 v-lights to get the cast plate. Now I can mix and match.

My 7.75 cruiser is on Royals, is it worth being an idiot and putting venture los with 1/8 soft riser and dragons for asphalt crunching?

as an idiot myself, i have a cruiser setup like this and it's really fun

[Vintagebody]

Any DLX boards thats rather mellow? I've had my 2nd session with V-hollows 5,8, and 8,5 Silva deck. It has basicly no fingers of flat, super hefty pop, I dident really like it with Thunder either...

Or other Venture friendly decks?

[Sedition]

Any DLX boards thats rather mellow? I've had my 2nd session with V-hollows 5,8, and 8,5 Silva deck. It has basicly no fingers of flat, super hefty pop, I dident really like it with Thunder either...

Or other Venture friendly decks?

DLX decks have Roman numerals on the top ply near the front trucks. “IV” is the flattest. “I” is the steepest. Go for an IV.

[Vintagebody]

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Any DLX boards thats rather mellow? I've had my 2nd session with V-hollows 5,8, and 8,5 Silva deck. It has basicly no fingers of flat, super hefty pop, I dident really like it with Thunder either...

Or other Venture friendly decks?

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DLX decks have Roman numerals on the top ply near the front trucks. “IV” is the flattest. “I” is the steepest. Go for an IV.

My Silva deck is an IV. 14.25 WB, 31.8 length. Very steep compared to most Polar decks ive tried.

[Sedition]

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Any DLX boards thats rather mellow? I've had my 2nd session with V-hollows 5,8, and 8,5 Silva deck. It has basicly no fingers of flat, super hefty pop, I dident really like it with Thunder either...

Or other Venture friendly decks?

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DLX decks have Roman numerals on the top ply near the front trucks. “IV” is the flattest. “I” is the steepest. Go for an IV.

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My Silva deck is an IV. 14.25 WB, 31.8 length. Very steep compared to most Polar decks ive tried.

If you have an IV, and it’s too steep, you’re fucked for DLX decks.

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Any DLX boards thats rather mellow? I've had my 2nd session with V-hollows 5,8, and 8,5 Silva deck. It has basicly no fingers of flat, super hefty pop, I dident really like it with Thunder either...

Or other Venture friendly decks?

[close]

DLX decks have Roman numerals on the top ply near the front trucks. “IV” is the flattest. “I” is the steepest. Go for an IV.

[close]

My Silva deck is an IV. 14.25 WB, 31.8 length. Very steep compared to most Polar decks ive tried.

[close]

If you have an IV, and it’s too steep, you’re fucked for DLX decks.

i love krooked. it’s not what it once was, to me, but i’m always going to be a fan. and some of the newer skaters are very sick (jenson, eddy). i’m a gottwig fan. the graphics are not as magical as they used to be. or something.
anyways, the boards are almost always too much. too steep. i don’t like bbs.
occasionally there is the 7.8 eagle in an IV that is flat and perfect. but i’m just not into dlx boards anymore. despite them being the best, for a long moment.
right when kayo started, i loved those boards, also bbs (i didn’t know at the time, but it must be?) and they were noticeably more quality, than the competition, for that era.
blah blah.
dlx boards are never flat or mellow. imo.
if i wanted to support one company, for how they do it, as i understand it, it’d be dlx.

ventures are the shit, i like them most on mellow setups. a person with an opinion i value, was mentioning putting the lo’s on a steep board and liking it, so my curiosity is piqued

[LebowskisRug]

I've had plenty of very mellow DLX 8.38, 8.4, and 8.25 even.

[Sedition]

I've had plenty of very mellow DLX 8.38, 8.4, and 8.25 even.

^ I support this statement.

[Weezil]

I don’t know anything about tails but I usually skate the quasi proto shape (8.25/8.5, are the tails short on that shape?), w/ ventures. This summer I’ve been running the dlx 8.25 grey eagle w/ venture 5.8 cast. Little longer in the wb than the quasi but might be the best setup I’ve ever ridden. Everything’s been clicking all summer and I haven’t changed anything.

I’d say ventures w that shape is a good move if Indy’s aren’t doing it

[jimgrude]

I don’t know anything about tails but I usually skate the quasi proto shape (8.25/8.5, are the tails short on that shape?), w/ ventures. This summer I’ve been running the dlx 8.25 grey eagle w/ venture 5.8 cast. Little longer in the wb than the quasi but might be the best setup I’ve ever ridden. Everything’s been clicking all summer and I haven’t changed anything.

I’d say ventures w that shape is a good move if Indy’s aren’t doing it

The Quasi Proto tails can be as short as 6.4" for 8.5, and 6.3 for 8.25, which is quite short for these sizes. The wheelbase is also really short, at 14", but the noses are a decent length at 6.8".

[Sedition]

I don’t know anything about tails but I usually skate the quasi proto shape (8.25/8.5, are the tails short on that shape?), w/ ventures. This summer I’ve been running the dlx 8.25 grey eagle w/ venture 5.8 cast. Little longer in the wb than the quasi but might be the best setup I’ve ever ridden. Everything’s been clicking all summer and I haven’t changed anything.

I’d say ventures w that shape is a good move if Indy’s aren’t doing it

I religiously ride DLX 8.25s (usually the grey eagle). I've been on Indys, but have 5.6 coming this week. I'm eager to try them out (e.g. I want to like them). Your comments have me excited.

[Mbrimson88]

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It's a stupid matter, but I'm heading to the shop tomorrow and will grab pics of the 8.25 and 8.38 as well. There's no way the 8.38 is under 6.5. I love that shape and can ride the Twin Tail just as well because it's the same exact tail but you get 2 of them. That one is consistently listed as 6.625.

[close]

When I mentioned under 6.5, I mean it was a tiny amounts here, like 1/16th under. The ones I had very well could have just been odd-ball/bad sand jobs. The 6.625 seems out there to me…that’s like that 8.125 shape. Anyway, I’m curious to see what you find/see.

[close]

Ya know, if you think about the difference in steepness between a I and IV and that we measure tail length as the base of a right triangle, the hypotenuse shortens the steeper the deck is and thus the base shortens as well. So, it is entirely possible that measuring straight across as we usually do would give different measurements.

[close]

Was totally thinking exact same thing, too.

[close]

DLX- I love you, but your Roman Numerals are really fucking with my gear madness.

The funny thing is after flattening out a I or II it is often a very slightly longer board, which I like.  Sometimes the side to side concave of those boards is a bit much for me though, but I make do with whatever I have here.

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Any DLX boards thats rather mellow? I've had my 2nd session with V-hollows 5,8, and 8,5 Silva deck. It has basicly no fingers of flat, super hefty pop, I dident really like it with Thunder either...

Or other Venture friendly decks?

[close]

DLX decks have Roman numerals on the top ply near the front trucks. “IV” is the flattest. “I” is the steepest. Go for an IV.

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My Silva deck is an IV. 14.25 WB, 31.8 length. Very steep compared to most Polar decks ive tried.

On the same topic of boards too steep, I often park on the kicks to flatten them out some, which makes things way easier for me to skate almost any board regardless of how steep it is (or DLX number stamp).

Others have posted clips of it and done similar things in the past and it does work, so if any board is too steep, lay it down graphic up, sit on cardboard or something on a flat even surface, gently drive on to the kick and park pretty much over bolts for a bit, depending on how steep it is and how much you want to flatten it out, eg half an hour most commonly for me, then do the other kick for the same time.  Let it sit for a day and then see how much difference it has made.

I can send you pics and clips of doing my own boards - almost all DLX boards, others too, but that is about the only way a board that is too steep will still skate well for me on any truck, especially Ventures which push the wheelbase out and into the kicks, which makes a regular board feel more steep, especially compared to on Indy or Ace trucks.

Just a thought anyway, as if you have a board that is just too steep to be comfortable to skate, at least you are not wasting anything by trying it.

[LebowskisRug]

I've tried the parking thing twice and ruined both decks, never again.

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I've had plenty of very mellow DLX 8.38, 8.4, and 8.25 even.

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^ I support this statement.

nah. ya’ll might have had dlx boards that were more mellow than other dlx boards, but that doesn’t mean those boards were mellow, compared to: a flat ps stix, pgi boards, control mfg, those dang mini logos….
bbs boards are just are not that flat/mellow
unless i’m not understanding the term mellow.

[Sedition]

I've tried the parking thing twice and ruined both decks, never again.

I tried three times, and I’m with Lebowski, won’t try it again.

First attempt resulted in kicks that were just they way I liked them. That’s promising, right? The problem was concave on rest of board (e.g. the middle) felt disproportionately steep and deep compared to the (now) flatter nose and tail. It’s a very strange disconnect that I couldn’t handle.

Second attempt ended with a warped deck because I didn’t park “straight enough” on the deck.

Final attempt ended with really disproportionate kick angles on nose and tail. At this point, I was like, “OK. You can’t get this work to your liking. Stop. Just spend the time to track down IV stamped decks.”

[LebowskisRug]

I had the flattest board on planet earth literally the kicks had a 1" gap between them and the IV I put on top. I tried riding it and was pissed I wasted $5 shop grip on it

[rikki]

I religiously ride DLX 8.25s (usually the grey eagle). I've been on Indys, but have 5.6 coming this week. I'm eager to try them out (e.g. I want to like them). Your comments have me excited.

Interested to hear how the 5.6s go on a 14.38" wb.

[rocklobster]

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I religiously ride DLX 8.25s (usually the grey eagle). I've been on Indys, but have 5.6 coming this week. I'm eager to try them out (e.g. I want to like them). Your comments have me excited.

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Interested to hear how the 5.6s go on a 14.38" wb.

Depends on the deck length, riding the Habitat 8.38 x 32.25 x 14.38 twin and it's been a dream. Previously swore that I'd only ride Ventures on 14 WB, 14.25 max, but I've ridden 6 of these in a row and haven't looked back.

[rikki]

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I religiously ride DLX 8.25s (usually the grey eagle). I've been on Indys, but have 5.6 coming this week. I'm eager to try them out (e.g. I want to like them). Your comments have me excited.

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Interested to hear how the 5.6s go on a 14.38" wb.

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Depends on the deck length, riding the Habitat 8.38 x 32.25 x 14.38 twin and it's been a dream. Previously swore that I'd only ride Ventures on 14 WB, 14.25 max, but I've ridden 6 of these in a row and haven't looked back.

Good to hear! Relevant personal question: how tall are you?

[rocklobster]

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I religiously ride DLX 8.25s (usually the grey eagle). I've been on Indys, but have 5.6 coming this week. I'm eager to try them out (e.g. I want to like them). Your comments have me excited.

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Interested to hear how the 5.6s go on a 14.38" wb.

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Depends on the deck length, riding the Habitat 8.38 x 32.25 x 14.38 twin and it's been a dream. Previously swore that I'd only ride Ventures on 14 WB, 14.25 max, but I've ridden 6 of these in a row and haven't looked back.

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Good to hear! Relevant personal question: how tall are you?

Short (king) - 170cm / 5'6 on the best of days