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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1980 on: September 11, 2023, 01:47:38 PM »
The truth is the majority of the real skate industry knows the nine club is shit and isn’t going to really help your career. Just because you have the same 40 year old fans telling you they love you who either just started skating again after quitting at 15 or started for the first time and are learning to Ollie doesn’t mean you are the shit.

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1981 on: September 11, 2023, 02:37:39 PM »
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Nine Club needs to take a break from interviewing YouTubers. No disrespect to luis Mora and his story but it just feels like Crob and co are pushing the YouTube thing too hard. It feels like interviewing these guys gives the nine club some extra views or likes by piggybacking their guest or just some free consultation on how to improve their stats.
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But bro there’s a whole universe out there. YOUTUBE.
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Take a break from interviewing youtubers and go back to bringing on uninteresting old heads
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There's only one YouTuber anyone is interested to hear on the Nine Club and they seem pretty dismissive of him.
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Chris just did a weird thing on his last live revealing the newest guest weeks out. He said we dont watch 100% of GH content. It was basically a sidestep and he directed the GH hate against kelly. I may be wrong, Thats how i took it. He said he loves constructive criticism. I somehow doubt it.
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Look man. The problem is really simple. A bunch of never-grew-up man-children dont understand how to receive criticism or make amends for their shitty actions (Oblow debacle, how they handled it with their platform is notably worse than what some dude no one really thinks about said) and they have an audience of hundreds of thousands of people who did normal shit, maybe begrudgingly - went to school, got jobs, had responsibilities and just a fuckin sense of how to be a normal functioning adult in the world.

So enter someone like Joa, who is pretty much the most unconventional skateboard celebrity imaginable and bends the time-space continuum by being A) intelligent B) relatively well-adjusted C) a gaming nerd D) self-deprecating E) a ripping skater and F) a youtuber who also then can make fun of other youtubers because he's a ghost in the machine.

The NineClub would be doing themselves a MASSIVE solid/favor to have GH on and let him talk frankly and openly about all the shit that is wrong in skating (invariably, he will also talk about what's right with it) including being vulnerable to critiques of the actual show, and then rub a couple of brain cells together and respond to him in real time.

But they wont, because they have no idea how to actually process and respond to it when someone tells you you're doing something wrong. This is why toxic positivity and participation celebrations are a real thing. Fortunately (or unfortunately for these dudes and a lot of their guests) the real world will snap you back into reality very quickly.

Very astute analysis. I think Joa's wit would sail clear over Crob and Kelly's (barely functioning) heads. Jeron knows what's up though.


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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1982 on: September 11, 2023, 02:49:17 PM »
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Nine Club needs to take a break from interviewing YouTubers. No disrespect to luis Mora and his story but it just feels like Crob and co are pushing the YouTube thing too hard. It feels like interviewing these guys gives the nine club some extra views or likes by piggybacking their guest or just some free consultation on how to improve their stats.
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But bro there’s a whole universe out there. YOUTUBE.
[close]

Take a break from interviewing youtubers and go back to bringing on uninteresting old heads
[close]

There's only one YouTuber anyone is interested to hear on the Nine Club and they seem pretty dismissive of him.
[close]

Chris just did a weird thing on his last live revealing the newest guest weeks out. He said we dont watch 100% of GH content. It was basically a sidestep and he directed the GH hate against kelly. I may be wrong, Thats how i took it. He said he loves constructive criticism. I somehow doubt it.
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Look man. The problem is really simple. A bunch of never-grew-up man-children dont understand how to receive criticism or make amends for their shitty actions (Oblow debacle, how they handled it with their platform is notably worse than what some dude no one really thinks about said) and they have an audience of hundreds of thousands of people who did normal shit, maybe begrudgingly - went to school, got jobs, had responsibilities and just a fuckin sense of how to be a normal functioning adult in the world.

So enter someone like Joa, who is pretty much the most unconventional skateboard celebrity imaginable and bends the time-space continuum by being A) intelligent B) relatively well-adjusted C) a gaming nerd D) self-deprecating E) a ripping skater and F) a youtuber who also then can make fun of other youtubers because he's a ghost in the machine.

The NineClub would be doing themselves a MASSIVE solid/favor to have GH on and let him talk frankly and openly about all the shit that is wrong in skating (invariably, he will also talk about what's right with it) including being vulnerable to critiques of the actual show, and then rub a couple of brain cells together and respond to him in real time.

But they wont, because they have no idea how to actually process and respond to it when someone tells you you're doing something wrong. This is why toxic positivity and participation celebrations are a real thing. Fortunately (or unfortunately for these dudes and a lot of their guests) the real world will snap you back into reality very quickly.
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Very astute analysis. I think Joa's wit would sail clear over Crob and Kelly's (barely functioning) heads. Jeron knows what's up though.

Thanks.

True, but Jeron is too (genuinely) nice to banter like that. He's a sweetheart and a legitimately happy/positive guy. He wouldnt engage.
ok thanks

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1983 on: September 11, 2023, 02:52:20 PM »
Jeron dragged his fuckin toe on the way to a flat ledge trick.

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1984 on: September 11, 2023, 03:12:55 PM »
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Nine Club needs to take a break from interviewing YouTubers. No disrespect to luis Mora and his story but it just feels like Crob and co are pushing the YouTube thing too hard. It feels like interviewing these guys gives the nine club some extra views or likes by piggybacking their guest or just some free consultation on how to improve their stats.
[close]

But bro there’s a whole universe out there. YOUTUBE.
[close]

Take a break from interviewing youtubers and go back to bringing on uninteresting old heads
[close]

There's only one YouTuber anyone is interested to hear on the Nine Club and they seem pretty dismissive of him.
[close]

Chris just did a weird thing on his last live revealing the newest guest weeks out. He said we dont watch 100% of GH content. It was basically a sidestep and he directed the GH hate against kelly. I may be wrong, Thats how i took it. He said he loves constructive criticism. I somehow doubt it.
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Look man. The problem is really simple. A bunch of never-grew-up man-children dont understand how to receive criticism or make amends for their shitty actions (Oblow debacle, how they handled it with their platform is notably worse than what some dude no one really thinks about said) and they have an audience of hundreds of thousands of people who did normal shit, maybe begrudgingly - went to school, got jobs, had responsibilities and just a fuckin sense of how to be a normal functioning adult in the world.

So enter someone like Joa, who is pretty much the most unconventional skateboard celebrity imaginable and bends the time-space continuum by being A) intelligent B) relatively well-adjusted C) a gaming nerd D) self-deprecating E) a ripping skater and F) a youtuber who also then can make fun of other youtubers because he's a ghost in the machine.

The NineClub would be doing themselves a MASSIVE solid/favor to have GH on and let him talk frankly and openly about all the shit that is wrong in skating (invariably, he will also talk about what's right with it) including being vulnerable to critiques of the actual show, and then rub a couple of brain cells together and respond to him in real time.

But they wont, because they have no idea how to actually process and respond to it when someone tells you you're doing something wrong. This is why toxic positivity and participation celebrations are a real thing. Fortunately (or unfortunately for these dudes and a lot of their guests) the real world will snap you back into reality very quickly.
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Very astute analysis. I think Joa's wit would sail clear over Crob and Kelly's (barely functioning) heads. Jeron knows what's up though.
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Thanks.

True, but Jeron is too (genuinely) nice to banter like that. He's a sweetheart and a legitimately happy/positive guy. He wouldnt engage.
at the 44min mark Jeron responds to Luis bringing up gifted and he says they all have to bite their tongues, and they don't want to put themselves out there in that way.  They didn't even acknowledge gifted in that part...

I gave up after an hour did anyone watch the whole thing and knows if he brings gifted back up to them

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1985 on: September 11, 2023, 03:23:06 PM »
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Nine Club needs to take a break from interviewing YouTubers. No disrespect to luis Mora and his story but it just feels like Crob and co are pushing the YouTube thing too hard. It feels like interviewing these guys gives the nine club some extra views or likes by piggybacking their guest or just some free consultation on how to improve their stats.
[close]

But bro there’s a whole universe out there. YOUTUBE.
[close]

Take a break from interviewing youtubers and go back to bringing on uninteresting old heads
[close]

There's only one YouTuber anyone is interested to hear on the Nine Club and they seem pretty dismissive of him.
[close]

Chris just did a weird thing on his last live revealing the newest guest weeks out. He said we dont watch 100% of GH content. It was basically a sidestep and he directed the GH hate against kelly. I may be wrong, Thats how i took it. He said he loves constructive criticism. I somehow doubt it.
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Look man. The problem is really simple. A bunch of never-grew-up man-children dont understand how to receive criticism or make amends for their shitty actions (Oblow debacle, how they handled it with their platform is notably worse than what some dude no one really thinks about said) and they have an audience of hundreds of thousands of people who did normal shit, maybe begrudgingly - went to school, got jobs, had responsibilities and just a fuckin sense of how to be a normal functioning adult in the world.

So enter someone like Joa, who is pretty much the most unconventional skateboard celebrity imaginable and bends the time-space continuum by being A) intelligent B) relatively well-adjusted C) a gaming nerd D) self-deprecating E) a ripping skater and F) a youtuber who also then can make fun of other youtubers because he's a ghost in the machine.

The NineClub would be doing themselves a MASSIVE solid/favor to have GH on and let him talk frankly and openly about all the shit that is wrong in skating (invariably, he will also talk about what's right with it) including being vulnerable to critiques of the actual show, and then rub a couple of brain cells together and respond to him in real time.

But they wont, because they have no idea how to actually process and respond to it when someone tells you you're doing something wrong. This is why toxic positivity and participation celebrations are a real thing. Fortunately (or unfortunately for these dudes and a lot of their guests) the real world will snap you back into reality very quickly.
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Very astute analysis. I think Joa's wit would sail clear over Crob and Kelly's (barely functioning) heads. Jeron knows what's up though.
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Thanks.

True, but Jeron is too (genuinely) nice to banter like that. He's a sweetheart and a legitimately happy/positive guy. He wouldnt engage.
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at the 44min mark Jeron responds to Luis bringing up gifted and he says they all have to bite their tongues, and they don't want to put themselves out there in that way.  They didn't even acknowledge gifted in that part...

My god that's pathetic. I literally lol'd reading that. get some fuckin spines, dudes.

I did not watch the episode and dont care about it.

Edit: ok I did go and watch this and its amazing. No one can deny, not even this Luis dude, that GH has a role to play and what it is is wholly defined as being honest and keeping it real, and then the NC goes on to basically detonate that idea by saying "there is a lot of shitty skating and we just put that aside and dont talk about it."

No one cares about the shitty skating. Zach Dowdy just posted a fuckin three hour video of him trying to learn a 360 flip before social security checks arrive.

That's not what any of this is about and you know it. Buddy right now you guys are not helping skateboarding culture, and sadly by some fucking stroke of luck you have the platform to help it or dismantle it and you seem bent on the latter.

I'll hand it to this Luis dude, he is schooling them in what it's like to be an adult and take some criticism and do something with it and not be a soft-ass care bear afraid to have their feelings hurt.
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ok thanks

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1986 on: September 11, 2023, 03:53:57 PM »
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Nine Club needs to take a break from interviewing YouTubers. No disrespect to luis Mora and his story but it just feels like Crob and co are pushing the YouTube thing too hard. It feels like interviewing these guys gives the nine club some extra views or likes by piggybacking their guest or just some free consultation on how to improve their stats.
[close]

But bro there’s a whole universe out there. YOUTUBE.
[close]

Take a break from interviewing youtubers and go back to bringing on uninteresting old heads
[close]

There's only one YouTuber anyone is interested to hear on the Nine Club and they seem pretty dismissive of him.
[close]

Chris just did a weird thing on his last live revealing the newest guest weeks out. He said we dont watch 100% of GH content. It was basically a sidestep and he directed the GH hate against kelly. I may be wrong, Thats how i took it. He said he loves constructive criticism. I somehow doubt it.
[close]


Look man. The problem is really simple. A bunch of never-grew-up man-children dont understand how to receive criticism or make amends for their shitty actions (Oblow debacle, how they handled it with their platform is notably worse than what some dude no one really thinks about said) and they have an audience of hundreds of thousands of people who did normal shit, maybe begrudgingly - went to school, got jobs, had responsibilities and just a fuckin sense of how to be a normal functioning adult in the world.

So enter someone like Joa, who is pretty much the most unconventional skateboard celebrity imaginable and bends the time-space continuum by being A) intelligent B) relatively well-adjusted C) a gaming nerd D) self-deprecating E) a ripping skater and F) a youtuber who also then can make fun of other youtubers because he's a ghost in the machine.

The NineClub would be doing themselves a MASSIVE solid/favor to have GH on and let him talk frankly and openly about all the shit that is wrong in skating (invariably, he will also talk about what's right with it) including being vulnerable to critiques of the actual show, and then rub a couple of brain cells together and respond to him in real time.

But they wont, because they have no idea how to actually process and respond to it when someone tells you you're doing something wrong. This is why toxic positivity and participation celebrations are a real thing. Fortunately (or unfortunately for these dudes and a lot of their guests) the real world will snap you back into reality very quickly.
[close]

Very astute analysis. I think Joa's wit would sail clear over Crob and Kelly's (barely functioning) heads. Jeron knows what's up though.
[close]

Thanks.

True, but Jeron is too (genuinely) nice to banter like that. He's a sweetheart and a legitimately happy/positive guy. He wouldnt engage.
[close]
at the 44min mark Jeron responds to Luis bringing up gifted and he says they all have to bite their tongues, and they don't want to put themselves out there in that way.  They didn't even acknowledge gifted in that part...
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My god that's pathetic. I literally lol'd reading that. get some fuckin spines, dudes.

I did not watch the episode and dont care about it.

Edit: ok I did go and watch this and its amazing. No one can deny, not even this Luis dude, that GH has a role to play and what it is is wholly defined as being honest and keeping it real, and then the NC goes on to basically detonate that idea by saying "there is a lot of shitty skating and we just put that aside and dont talk about it."

No one cares about the shitty skating. Zach Dowdy just posted a fuckin three hour video of him trying to learn a 360 flip before social security checks arrive.

That's not what any of this is about and you know it. Buddy right now you guys are not helping skateboarding culture, and sadly by some fucking stroke of luck you have the platform to help it or dismantle it and you seem bent on the latter.

I'll hand it to this Luis dude, he is schooling them in what it's like to be an adult and take some criticism and do something with it and not be a soft-ass care bear afraid to have their feelings hurt.

Yeah I really liked this episode. They need more of these people on, if only to get some genuine enthusiasm from Chris.

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1987 on: September 11, 2023, 05:44:57 PM »
All these guys get feelings anytime gifted hater is brought up
But gifted hater isn’t even really a hater, he’s more Mikey well researched and well thought out and entertaining. He deep dives where the nine club only goes a few inches.

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« Reply #1988 on: September 11, 2023, 07:29:04 PM »
He deep dives where the nine club only goes a few inches.

How deep did he dive into you to deserve that glowing review?

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
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« Reply #1990 on: September 13, 2023, 08:53:47 AM »
I've honestly never heard or seen this guy. I've pretty much seen or have heard others mention them but never this guy. Almost 2Mil sub? Impressive! Listing now.

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1991 on: September 13, 2023, 09:02:42 AM »
“I don’t care, it’s just funny to me”


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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1992 on: September 13, 2023, 02:30:55 PM »
Perhaps the Nine Club needs a disclaimer/trigger warning about how not every guest will be who you want, but they like giving more people a voice and cross pollinating to expose more people to more people (and how that's not a bad thing).

They definitely have said that many times, as well as how they don't like to get into arguments with guests because that would be a bad strategy to get more guests to come on and/or open up. 

I think anyone who watches the live shows has heard them discuss all of this ad nauseam but people who only watch the main interview don't seem to get it.  My guess is they figure any true fans of the show will watch the live shows and hear all of this... idk.

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1993 on: September 14, 2023, 02:43:55 AM »
They definitely have said that many times, as well as how they don't like to get into arguments with guests because that would be a bad strategy to get more guests to come on and/or open up.

As a journalist, that seems like such a horrible take. Sure, if I just write about what my interviewees want to read about themselves, I'd probably be able to speak with a wide selection of people. However, I'd be writing the most basic, milquetoast stories without any level of depth. Getting a lot of different guests is important for the Nine Club, sure, but if there's no actual substance in the interviews, people are eventually gonna get bored. There's a difference between constantly argueing and annoying guests and being a perceptive interviewer.
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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1994 on: September 14, 2023, 02:47:27 AM »
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They definitely have said that many times, as well as how they don't like to get into arguments with guests because that would be a bad strategy to get more guests to come on and/or open up.
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As a journalist, that seems like such a horrible take. Sure, if I just write about what my interviewees want to read about themselves, I'd probably be able to speak with a wide selection of people. However, I'd be writing the most basic, milquetoast stories without any level of depth. Getting a lot of different guests is important for the Nine Club, sure, but if there's no actual substance in the interviews, people are eventually gonna get bored. There's a difference between constantly argueing and annoying guests and being a perceptive interviewer.

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1995 on: September 14, 2023, 04:04:14 AM »
The 9 Club for me is skaters and skate affiliated people telling their story. A source of biographical information. When did he/she started skating, the journey from then to now and so on. It has been mentioned here already, but a single show like The 9 Club can't be everything everyone wants it to be. Chris & Co chose to be easy listening storytelling and soft questions. Probably because it suits them in the way they are as people, but also to even get guests on the show. Each podcast/show is free to do whatever they want.

The real world is different to stupid Youtube comments. The 9 Club would not exist if their "niche" was to morally condemn their guests and drag them through the mud for whatever stupid shit they've done up through the times.

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1996 on: September 14, 2023, 04:11:01 AM »
Can't wait for Aaron Kyro's venue!

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« Reply #1997 on: September 14, 2023, 08:02:07 AM »
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They definitely have said that many times, as well as how they don't like to get into arguments with guests because that would be a bad strategy to get more guests to come on and/or open up.
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As a journalist, that seems like such a horrible take. Sure, if I just write about what my interviewees want to read about themselves, I'd probably be able to speak with a wide selection of people. However, I'd be writing the most basic, milquetoast stories without any level of depth. Getting a lot of different guests is important for the Nine Club, sure, but if there's no actual substance in the interviews, people are eventually gonna get bored. There's a difference between constantly argueing and annoying guests and being a perceptive interviewer.

They often have 3-5 hour long interviews week after week that I watch all of the way through, unlike other podcasts. So I think they're clearly doing something right but  I'm also the type of person who watches WhereTheLocalsSk8, which often has completely unknown/locals and I find that entertaining too because it's fun to hear people talking skating regardless of who they are.  They timestamp everything and have a highlights channel too.

I hear them try to prod more out of guests all the time, often successfully. They also have talked about how some guests say they won't answer certain topics, during the pre-show warmup.

bombsquid got it right, it's just their easy going style. They brought Jeron Wilson (the nicest/coolest guy ever) in. If they wanted to bring someone the opposite in they would have, and it would be a completely different show. I'm happy with this one.

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« Reply #1998 on: September 14, 2023, 08:10:17 AM »
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They definitely have said that many times, as well as how they don't like to get into arguments with guests because that would be a bad strategy to get more guests to come on and/or open up.
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As a journalist, that seems like such a horrible take. Sure, if I just write about what my interviewees want to read about themselves, I'd probably be able to speak with a wide selection of people. However, I'd be writing the most basic, milquetoast stories without any level of depth. Getting a lot of different guests is important for the Nine Club, sure, but if there's no actual substance in the interviews, people are eventually gonna get bored. There's a difference between constantly argueing and annoying guests and being a perceptive interviewer.

I dont think crob considers himself a journalist. He knows hes just a talk show host. He doesnt claim to be hard hitting or anything. Even the bunt doesnt want controversy anymore. 'Last person you want on the sesh?' 'Cops' *gunfire soundbite*

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« Reply #1999 on: September 14, 2023, 08:33:58 AM »
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They definitely have said that many times, as well as how they don't like to get into arguments with guests because that would be a bad strategy to get more guests to come on and/or open up.
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As a journalist, that seems like such a horrible take. Sure, if I just write about what my interviewees want to read about themselves, I'd probably be able to speak with a wide selection of people. However, I'd be writing the most basic, milquetoast stories without any level of depth. Getting a lot of different guests is important for the Nine Club, sure, but if there's no actual substance in the interviews, people are eventually gonna get bored. There's a difference between constantly argueing and annoying guests and being a perceptive interviewer.
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I dont think crob considers himself a journalist. He knows hes just a talk show host. He doesnt claim to be hard hitting or anything. Even the bunt doesnt want controversy anymore. 'Last person you want on the sesh?' 'Cops' *gunfire soundbite*

"Oh shittt, you a real one for that one dawg" "Damn degggy, not holding anything back"

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« Reply #2000 on: September 14, 2023, 09:05:28 AM »
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They definitely have said that many times, as well as how they don't like to get into arguments with guests because that would be a bad strategy to get more guests to come on and/or open up.
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As a journalist, that seems like such a horrible take. Sure, if I just write about what my interviewees want to read about themselves, I'd probably be able to speak with a wide selection of people. However, I'd be writing the most basic, milquetoast stories without any level of depth. Getting a lot of different guests is important for the Nine Club, sure, but if there's no actual substance in the interviews, people are eventually gonna get bored. There's a difference between constantly argueing and annoying guests and being a perceptive interviewer.
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I dont think crob considers himself a journalist. He knows hes just a talk show host. He doesnt claim to be hard hitting or anything. Even the bunt doesnt want controversy anymore. 'Last person you want on the sesh?' 'Cops' *gunfire soundbite*
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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2001 on: September 14, 2023, 09:22:11 AM »
The sad truth is that Crob and team aren’t influential enough to get Koston or Mullen on TNC, let alone celebrity skate fans, but Tony Hawk gets them on his podcast, which is objectively way worse than TNC

TNC is probably best to focus on having a mix of YT skate creators and up and coming core skaters on their show

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2002 on: September 14, 2023, 09:35:04 AM »
The sad truth is that Crob and team aren’t influential enough to get Koston or Mullen on TNC, let alone celebrity skate fans, but Tony Hawk gets them on his podcast, which is objectively way worse than TNC

TNC is probably best to focus on having a mix of YT skate creators and up and coming core skaters on their show

Yet they've had Tony Hawk himself on the show... Weird assumption considering the show is still bringing in new guests all the time and Crob has interviewed Koston recently on 2 different occasions outside of the main nine club.  My guess is Koston will be on soon, and not sure why Mullen hasn't yet since Jeron knows him. Gives us something to look forward to even if it never happens :D

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2003 on: September 14, 2023, 11:06:06 AM »
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They definitely have said that many times, as well as how they don't like to get into arguments with guests because that would be a bad strategy to get more guests to come on and/or open up.
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As a journalist, that seems like such a horrible take. Sure, if I just write about what my interviewees want to read about themselves, I'd probably be able to speak with a wide selection of people. However, I'd be writing the most basic, milquetoast stories without any level of depth. Getting a lot of different guests is important for the Nine Club, sure, but if there's no actual substance in the interviews, people are eventually gonna get bored. There's a difference between constantly argueing and annoying guests and being a perceptive interviewer.

They’re not journalists. It’s a talk show, not hard hitting news.

People seem to want the show to be something completely different from what it actually is.

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« Reply #2004 on: September 14, 2023, 11:25:57 AM »
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They definitely have said that many times, as well as how they don't like to get into arguments with guests because that would be a bad strategy to get more guests to come on and/or open up.
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As a journalist, that seems like such a horrible take. Sure, if I just write about what my interviewees want to read about themselves, I'd probably be able to speak with a wide selection of people. However, I'd be writing the most basic, milquetoast stories without any level of depth. Getting a lot of different guests is important for the Nine Club, sure, but if there's no actual substance in the interviews, people are eventually gonna get bored. There's a difference between constantly argueing and annoying guests and being a perceptive interviewer.
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They’re not journalists. It’s a talk show, not hard hitting news.

People seem to want the show to be something completely different from what it actually is.

If they would actually express an opinion on anything, ever, I think they'd make more money. I'd guess GH makes more per month from his patrons than 9C does from all their various revenue streams, despite having about a fiftieth of the production overhead and no one to split it with.

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2005 on: September 14, 2023, 11:45:26 AM »
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They definitely have said that many times, as well as how they don't like to get into arguments with guests because that would be a bad strategy to get more guests to come on and/or open up.
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As a journalist, that seems like such a horrible take. Sure, if I just write about what my interviewees want to read about themselves, I'd probably be able to speak with a wide selection of people. However, I'd be writing the most basic, milquetoast stories without any level of depth. Getting a lot of different guests is important for the Nine Club, sure, but if there's no actual substance in the interviews, people are eventually gonna get bored. There's a difference between constantly argueing and annoying guests and being a perceptive interviewer.
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They’re not journalists. It’s a talk show, not hard hitting news.

People seem to want the show to be something completely different from what it actually is.
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I'd guess GH makes more per month from his patrons than 9C does from all their various revenue streams, despite having about a fiftieth of the production overhead and no one to split it with.

Question is, will GH be able to keep 2,600 patrons longer than TNC can pump out 2 episodes/week?

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2006 on: September 14, 2023, 11:49:39 AM »
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They definitely have said that many times, as well as how they don't like to get into arguments with guests because that would be a bad strategy to get more guests to come on and/or open up.
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As a journalist, that seems like such a horrible take. Sure, if I just write about what my interviewees want to read about themselves, I'd probably be able to speak with a wide selection of people. However, I'd be writing the most basic, milquetoast stories without any level of depth. Getting a lot of different guests is important for the Nine Club, sure, but if there's no actual substance in the interviews, people are eventually gonna get bored. There's a difference between constantly argueing and annoying guests and being a perceptive interviewer.
[close]

They’re not journalists. It’s a talk show, not hard hitting news.

People seem to want the show to be something completely different from what it actually is.
[close]

If they would actually express an opinion on anything, ever, I think they'd make more money. I'd guess GH makes more per month from his patrons than 9C does from all their various revenue streams, despite having about a fiftieth of the production overhead and no one to split it with.

So the lesson here is; be a dickhead - make more money

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2007 on: September 14, 2023, 02:59:51 PM »
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They definitely have said that many times, as well as how they don't like to get into arguments with guests because that would be a bad strategy to get more guests to come on and/or open up.
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As a journalist, that seems like such a horrible take. Sure, if I just write about what my interviewees want to read about themselves, I'd probably be able to speak with a wide selection of people. However, I'd be writing the most basic, milquetoast stories without any level of depth. Getting a lot of different guests is important for the Nine Club, sure, but if there's no actual substance in the interviews, people are eventually gonna get bored. There's a difference between constantly argueing and annoying guests and being a perceptive interviewer.
[close]

They’re not journalists. It’s a talk show, not hard hitting news.

People seem to want the show to be something completely different from what it actually is.
[close]

If they would actually express an opinion on anything, ever, I think they'd make more money. I'd guess GH makes more per month from his patrons than 9C does from all their various revenue streams, despite having about a fiftieth of the production overhead and no one to split it with.
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So the lesson here is; be a dickhead - make more money

Or the lesson is: dont completely ignore reality - make more money

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2008 on: September 14, 2023, 03:02:21 PM »
crob doesn't seem to do any research on guests before recording, its often embarrassing how little he knows about the people he has on the show
kinda insulting levels of ignorance seeing as the guests are bringing in the views and in turn the money in his pocket

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #2009 on: September 14, 2023, 03:51:25 PM »
there are a number of very good episodes of the nine club. did any of you actually watch the O'dell or Colin Kennedy episodes? Those were insanely good even from a skate/skate history nerd perspective. if they interview a youtuber, i skip it, it's that easy. and personally, i think Crob has gotten better at doing prep and challenging guests a little bit post-Oblow.

I have no idea why some of you hate this show so much. the vitriol (and preachy GH dickriding) is crazy and way over the top.
none of us skate we just make fun of it