Israel's right to exist

[b00tyclappa69420]

allright this is where you can make your case. For those who think a Jewish state has no right to exist, well explain your point.
My view is that 1, other people have no state. Palestine is no exception, it is simply a trendy cause, and it also attracts a lot of arab solidarity. Let me remind you that there are other people who have no state, like the berbers and the kurds. But strangely no one gives a fuck about them.
2 : Israel is the only democracy in the region. There is not one arab country with democracy, unfortunately.
3 : to explain my position a bit more, I have thought a lot about this conflict because France has Europe's largest Jewish AND muslim population. I have friends on both sides and unfortunately this conflict resonates in France a lot. We even had crazy fanatics like Mohammed Merah gunning down 8 year old kids in front of a Jewish school.

Finally: let's try to keep this civilized. 

Edit: totally forgot to explain this discussion started in the Ryan Lay Palestine thread

My homie made a great point about how israel is touted as "only liberal democracy in the middle east" like it's some sort of W for liberal democracies... when it's a huge fucking L for liberal democracies if they can still be a horrific genocidal/apartheid state doing some of the genuinely most evil shit we've seen for a long time, while being a liberal democracy. Oh so your shitty population voted for this genocide in free and fair elections? give me a fucking break

[The real veganshawn]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/22/europe/norway-ireland-spain-palestinian-state-analysis-intl/index.html

Interesting

[Pintofguinness]

Bibis father (Benzion Netanyahu), revisionists more specifically Irguns and the bombing of king David hotel are all things worth while looking into for context of the history of modern day Israel I’d say
If one is interested

[slaab900turbo]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/poll-75-of-jewish-israelis-back-rafah-operation/#:~:text=A%20new%20poll%20finds%20that%20around%20three-quarters%20of,with%20Hamas%2C%20while%20two-thirds%20of%20Arab%20respondents%20disagree.

It is scary to imagine the mindset of a population that supports this.

[The real veganshawn]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/poll-75-of-jewish-israelis-back-rafah-operation/#:~:text=A%20new%20poll%20finds%20that%20around%20three-quarters%20of,with%20Hamas%2C%20while%20two-thirds%20of%20Arab%20respondents%20disagree.

It is scary to imagine the mindset of a population that supports this.

So scary

[231st Street]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13451089/The-father-son-Hamas-rapists-Terrorists-going-house-house-carrying-sex-attacks-murder-One-screamed-cried-father-raped-did-cousin-did-father-killed-her.html

Yes, so scary a population supports a war after this happened... For the Israeli haters here, try not to get too excited by the above.

[Alan]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/24/icj-orders-israel-to-halt-rafah-offensive-new-ruling

"The president of the international court of justice, Nawaf Salam, said the humanitarian situation in Rafah had deteriorated further and was now classified as “disastrous”, meaning the ICJ’s previously issued provisional measures “do not fully address the consequences arising from the change in the situation”.

He said the court had voted by a majority of 13 votes to two that “Israel shall, in conformity with its obligations under the convention on the prevention and punishment of the crime of genocide, and in view of the worsening conditions of life faced by civilians in Rafah governorate … immediately halt its military offensive and any other action in the Rafah governorate which may inflict on the Palestinian group in Gaza conditions of life that would bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part”."

[slaab900turbo]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13451089/The-father-son-Hamas-rapists-Terrorists-going-house-house-carrying-sex-attacks-murder-One-screamed-cried-father-raped-did-cousin-did-father-killed-her.html

Yes, so scary a population supports a war after this happened... For the Israeli haters here, try not to get too excited by the above.

You’re a troll on this topic and your posts serve no other purpose than to infuriate anyone with a shred of decency. Ignore button utilized.

[231st Street]

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Yes, so scary a population supports a war after this happened... For the Israeli haters here, try not to get too excited by the above.

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You’re a troll on this topic and your posts serve no other purpose than to infuriate anyone with a shred of decency. Ignore button utilized.

Makes sense-- I posted evidence of rape and abuse of women (as you've been saying didn't occur), so I need to be ignored.  Cannot see anything that runs counter to the narrative you have been sold.

[ungzilla]

you're so fucking stupid

[slaab900turbo]

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Yes, so scary a population supports a war after this happened... For the Israeli haters here, try not to get too excited by the above.

[close]

You’re a troll on this topic and your posts serve no other purpose than to infuriate anyone with a shred of decency. Ignore button utilized.

[close]

Makes sense-- I posted evidence of rape and abuse of women (as you've been saying didn't occur), so I need to be ignored.  Cannot see anything that runs counter to the narrative you have been sold.

There is no proof of grapes or SA’s from a reliable source and Israel has zero credibility at this time. I’m sure any confession these men gave was after IDF torture. Even if 2 men committed these acts this doesn’t justify Israel’s disproportionate response to kill 30,000+ civilians and starve millions. The DailyMail is a rag sheet. Admit you’re a shitbag Zio who is ok with the indiscriminate bombing and calculated starvation of civilians and move on. You don’t deserve civil discourse at this point.

[Dont]

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Yes, so scary a population supports a war after this happened... For the Israeli haters here, try not to get too excited by the above.

[close]

You’re a troll on this topic and your posts serve no other purpose than to infuriate anyone with a shred of decency. Ignore button utilized.

[close]

Makes sense-- I posted evidence of rape and abuse of women (as you've been saying didn't occur), so I need to be ignored.  Cannot see anything that runs counter to the narrative you have been sold.

[close]

There is no proof of grapes or SA’s from a reliable source and Israel has zero credibility at this time. I’m sure any confession these men gave was after IDF torture. Even if 2 men committed these acts this doesn’t justify Israel’s disproportionate response to kill 30,000+ civilians and starve millions. The DailyMail is a rag sheet. Admit you’re a shitbag Zio who is ok with the indiscriminate bombing and calculated starvation of civilians and move on. You don’t deserve civil discourse at this point.

What are you smoking. Have you seen the GoPro footage?

[layzieyez]

Oh look, actual babies without heads in Gaza. Let’s see who toes the line that it was a “mistake” while secretly mocking these mourning parents.

[Conman9000]

allright this is where you can make your case. For those who think a Jewish state has no right to exist, well explain your point.
My view is that 1, other people have no state. Palestine is no exception, it is simply a trendy cause, and it also attracts a lot of arab solidarity. Let me remind you that there are other people who have no state, like the berbers and the kurds. But strangely no one gives a fuck about them.
2 : Israel is the only democracy in the region. There is not one arab country with democracy, unfortunately.
3 : to explain my position a bit more, I have thought a lot about this conflict because France has Europe's largest Jewish AND muslim population. I have friends on both sides and unfortunately this conflict resonates in France a lot. We even had crazy fanatics like Mohammed Merah gunning down 8 year old kids in front of a Jewish school.

Yes, galaxy-brain, other things are also bad. Fuck Israel. Idiot.

Finally: let's try to keep this civilized. 

Edit: totally forgot to explain this discussion started in the Ryan Lay Palestine thread

[Phil Leotardo]

https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-news-05-28-2024-21ea44e3b514d3f3f2bd26a33f157e48

[slaab900turbo]

Israel is dropping 2 ton bombs on refugee camps. Let that sink in…

[The real veganshawn]

It's so disgusting anyone supports what they are doing

[slaab900turbo]

It's so disgusting anyone supports what they are doing

Unfortunately, every American taxpayer is and has no say in the matter.