The Cult of Mullen

[Beak]

I was hoping this was going to be linked to some kind of cultoftom insta page

[Uncle Poseur]

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Jeff Grosso (RIP) had a similar opinion, I'd take his word over yours.
Rodney is not the Godfather. Rodney was doing freestyle in full fucking pads while Natas was 50-50 huge rails.
Rodney didn't even skate street until the early 90s.
You're being vague. I'm citing specific examples.

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I was going to post something about Grosso. I think he was basically ready to say there’s some bullshit fake self promotion in a lot of this ie “freestyle conspiracy” rip

Not a "conspiracy" but Rodney was part owner of World, who undoubtedly started the street trend in the early 90's (awesome fucking videos). All the young kids on World (Daewon Song, Kareem Kambell , et. al.) adopted Rodney's style. The "godfather of street" title was a marketing ploy by World.

Rodney's style WAS NOT what Gonz and Natas did. Rod was a great influence on the"new school." but he's hardly the "godfather of street," more like the godfather of freestyle. And that's OK too.

[georgethecat]

Rodney spent hours alone on a concrete slab in Florida figuring out what is possible on a skateboard. He's not an artist as Gonz and Natas are, but he created the paint they use.

[Lou Strux]

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Actually, I just dropped some history on your fucking head. Your response was...what now?

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Old enough to have had a subscription to Action Now & a Sims Mike Folmer pro model, so I can relate. But, for clarification, WHO is calling Rodney the goshfather of street skating? Is their’s an opinion of note? Should we care about this opinion?
Speaking of opinions, your “history” was a combo of established fact & opinion.
You may not be wrong, but you also may find yourself before an audience that, at the moment, cares less about historical accuracies than they do about torching the villages of the perpetrators of social injustice.
Come back in a month, maybe?

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Google "Mullen Godfather of Street" FFS. Are you that lazy?
I don't think I said anything that was factually wrong. You're coming out all strong against me but you can't even rebut a single thing I said, other than to say "part of what you said is wrong."
Also, you're deflecting. I won't fall for it.

Oh. So there was a YouTube video, eh?
Seems legit.
I was actually on your side, just pointing out a few observations, but now that I’ve seen a YouTube video, my mind is made up for me.
Seriously though, while I agree with your statement about Hensley’s influence, the world first met him in what... ‘87, when Shackle Me Not came out? So people had already been hitting streets on film for better than 5 years. It’s an opinion that he was more influential. I happen to agree with that, but it’s still an opinion.
For a “person of a certain age” you’re getting your feelers rumpled like a ‘tween.
Relax homey, anybody who knows what’s what, knows what’s up.
Now... we good, or what?!?

Edit: Also, what? No Tommy Guerrero? Presuming this was a minor oversight.

[ndsr]

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I had a shredded chicken bbq sandwich for lunch. 2 in fact.

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So did I. Both.  Made Hawaiin sauce with pineapple and put breasts in Crock-Pot on low for 6 hours. Hope yours were good too.

Off topic but I’ve been making Mac salad with finely diced red,orange and jalapeño peppers, carrots,celery, hard boiled eggs, rice wine vinegar , fresh dill and sugar to taste.  Salt and pepper of course

[Lou Strux]

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I had a shredded chicken bbq sandwich for lunch. 2 in fact.

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So did I. Both.  Made Hawaiin sauce with pineapple and put breasts in Crock-Pot on low for 6 hours. Hope yours were good too.

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Off topic but I’ve been making Mac salad with finely diced red,orange and jalapeño peppers, carrots,celery, hard boiled eggs, rice wine vinegar , fresh dill and sugar to taste.  Salt and pepper of course

Both those sound good.
I just scored a 10 from the fam w/ a chicken salad w/ green o’s, finely chopped cornichon pix & pepperoncinis, stone ground mustard, mayonaise, yogurt (so you don’t have to use sooo much mayo), smoked paprika, salt, fresh ground black pepper, & a driz of balsamic reduction for some zip.
Mixity-mix-mix, served over fresh lettuce from the garden. Even the 3 year old scarfed it down.

[WeenisVonHugeDick]

At least we can all agree that Bobby Puleo invented street skateboarding

[Chavo]

I have heard that label and agree that it is incorrect, however, Rodney never claimed it himself. I do think that he is more venerated by younger generations than his own, mostly because he has been a major player in the industry and doesn't let anyone forget his contributions (see the ad "The House that Rodney Built" or the Bones Brigade documentary).

I think people also miss the point of Grosso's "Freestyle Conspiracy" love letter. The premise is that street skating is an adaptation, after the demise of '70s skateparks, that takes from other disciplines rather than a direct offshoot of freestyle. And even if you did invent everything, don't say things like, "In a very meaningful way I have helped create a vocabulary by which this community communicates. . . I think that I am so rich and what I have done has meaning."

[givecigstosurfgroms]

   I started skating in 86 and mullen was transending freestyle and being revered by all years b4 world indústrias.  Your the one trying to rewrite histiory. Grosso was in some cool guy bubble.  He ripped tho.  That last part he out out.
   Edit does anyone remember his heli pop sequence in Thrasher?  Só sick.  All those full page ads doing nose bonés?

[robertson]

Can we just appreciate this nose manual nollie flip to nose manual he did in Globe Opinion.  Also, his ender manual combo is great.

Linked to trick: http://youtu.be/Jw6yJjA5Teg?t=315

[GAY]

All of this back and forth and not one mention of Doug "Pineapple" Saladino wtf you goddamn people are hopeless.

[snakesinthegrass]

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Actually, I just dropped some history on your fucking head. Your response was...what now?

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Old enough to have had a subscription to Action Now & a Sims Mike Folmer pro model, so I can relate. But, for clarification, WHO is calling Rodney the goshfather of street skating? Is their’s an opinion of note? Should we care about this opinion?
Speaking of opinions, your “history” was a combo of established fact & opinion.
You may not be wrong, but you also may find yourself before an audience that, at the moment, cares less about historical accuracies than they do about torching the villages of the perpetrators of social injustice.
Come back in a month, maybe?

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Google "Mullen Godfather of Street" FFS. Are you that lazy?
I don't think I said anything that was factually wrong. You're coming out all strong against me but you can't even rebut a single thing I said, other than to say "part of what you said is wrong."
Also, you're deflecting. I won't fall for it.

that's from ted, anyone who skates knows rodney's contributions and ranks him accordingly to whatever type of skateboarding they prescribe to, you seem to be triggered by some youtube video titles and non-skateboarding blogs

[Dead Baby Lynx]

I usually frown upon Cults of any sort. I make an exception for mushroom cults. Do you think Rodney was a tripper? He kinda acts like he is.

[CorneliusCardew]

Have you heard of this Brazilian skater Harry Jumonji?

[Youoverthere]

Rodney spent hours alone on a concrete slab in Florida figuring out what is possible on a skateboard. He's not an artist as Gonz and Natas are, but he created the paint they use.

[GollyIamGully]

Rodney should've innovated himself a less awkward style.

[cookiecuttersuburb]

Imagine how well off Rodney would be if he put that kind of effort and time into something more marketable that skateboarding (computer programming, chemistry, medicine etc).
The dude would probably have hundreds of millions of dollars instead of the measley tens of millions of dollars he has currently from creating the modernized/sustainable version of what we do.
Ya what a kook...

[diogenesofkokomo]

All of this back and forth and not one mention of Doug "Pineapple" Saladino wtf you goddamn people are hopeless.

I want this engraved on my tombstone

[givecigstosurfgroms]

Rodney should've innovated himself a less awkward style.

   I'll disagree.

[silhouette]

^ Yeah homie's got his history backwards. When Mullen was learning all those flip tricks during his freestyle to street transition, the street pros actually cruising around with smooth style and popping stuff like Donger had become an exception and not the norm. 1990-1992, most every street pro was mostly focused on performance (even the ones who naturally had good style on it, and there were lots of them, Jovontae, Ocean, etc.) and experimenting with the new tech, laying down the modern basics and had that somewhat stiff and linear, trick-based style that had to be the embryo of what the next generations would later mix with the idea of versatility and grace again. Switch flips just weren't going to be invented over benches mid-line from the get-go.

At least we can all agree that Bobby Puleo invented street skateboarding the Kinks

[stephop]

Mullen did invent a lot of stuff then Natas and Gonz took it to the streets moving and not basically stationary. There are clips of Mullen doing double flips and impossibles in 82. Just a little ahead of the curve.

[Mike Oxwelling]

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Actually, I just dropped some history on your fucking head. Your response was...what now?

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Old enough to have had a subscription to Action Now & a Sims Mike Folmer pro model, so I can relate. But, for clarification, WHO is calling Rodney the goshfather of street skating? Is their’s an opinion of note? Should we care about this opinion?
Speaking of opinions, your “history” was a combo of established fact & opinion.
You may not be wrong, but you also may find yourself before an audience that, at the moment, cares less about historical accuracies than they do about torching the villages of the perpetrators of social injustice.
Come back in a month, maybe?

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Google "Mullen Godfather of Street" FFS. Are you that lazy?
I don't think I said anything that was factually wrong. You're coming out all strong against me but you can't even rebut a single thing I said, other than to say "part of what you said is wrong."
Also, you're deflecting. I won't fall for it.

You are quoting wikipedia.  Which is quoting Tony Hawk's pro skater.....the video game.  That actually says this  “Godfather of modern street skating”.   

So, Tony Hawk presumably signed off on those words?   

Street skating didn't start with kickflips.   Nor ollies.  Street skating existed before the ollie.  Its pretty simple.  "Street Skating" as we now see in pulverized into our eyes would have had a longer more drawn out journey to get where we're at today without Mullen.

He saw a fellow Floridian ollie on Vert...took it to flat.  Then invents ollie kickflips soon after.   Ollie flip tricks were seen by Natas and Gonz and taken to  "street" boards and thus "street skating"

Mullen deserves credit.  Its not that hard to see and its not even a big fucking deal.   

Also combo tricks were happening wwwwwaaaaaaay before Mullen switches up to a "street" board and starts skating ledges.   He doesn't skate one ledge in Rubbish Heap.   

Armando Barajas.  Look into him.   And just look into skating more because your overview of it lacks a clear understanding of things.

[GollyIamGully]

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Rodney should've innovated himself a less awkward style.

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   I'll disagree.

It wouldn't be the first time someone has. Obviously I don't think the guy is bad at skateboarding or anything like that. I just think he has an ugly style. He skates like he's never just skated down the street before.

[Hyliannightmare]

Feel better now?

[Mr. Stinky]

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Rodney should've innovated himself a less awkward style.

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   I'll disagree.

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It wouldn't be the first time someone has. Obviously I don't think the guy is bad at skateboarding or anything like that. I just think he has an ugly style. He skates like he's never just skated down the street before.

Dude looks like a velociraptor that figured out how to flip into and out of manuals and is extremely bummed about it for some reason.

[Double Thick Filbert]

He invented all the flips tricks on flat ground but that is not street skateboarding. Who was doing gaps, ledges, manuals, stairs, hubbas, handrails in the streets first? Not Mull en

[suckmadeck]

Rodney Mullen had his time now he's just ruining skateboarding games cus he has nothing else to do so they just motion capture him so all the tricks are fucked looking and wrong

[Tuff Lover]

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