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Skate Nomenclature
« on: July 17, 2020, 09:32:19 AM »
This is an issue I see pop up in real life and on the internet all the time... people who have skated for years but still don’t know the correct terms for tricks.

This dude on twitter (won’t @ ya but hey 👋 if you see this) who says he’s been skating since ‘89 and is a writer about skateboarding is trying to say stevie william’s epic switch backside 180 backside nosegrind on the picnic table photograph is a “switch backside 180 to fakie 5-0“ and using a Mike Carrol quote to justify it. Ain’t no such thing as switch fakie and if that is not already a slap username I’m sure some troll will take it soon.

I myself had nollie backside and frontside wrong for like 14 years and was indignant whenever I would get corrected until it clicked in my head.

I see muckmouth having to correct fools on insta all the time.

It can be confusing. If you are having trouble think about it directionally.

we only change backside/frontside spins or 5-O grinds/nosegrinds for fakie bc that is backwards.

Hence the name of the beautiful trick that is a nollie frontside flip.
« Last Edit: July 17, 2020, 12:40:44 PM by cricketclub »
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Re: Skate Nomenclature
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2020, 09:46:43 AM »
Motion to form the International Union of Pure and Applied Skateboarding is hereby added to the bill.
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Re: Skate Nomenclature
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2020, 10:05:36 AM »
i saw that thread on twitter and the dude is wrong, plain and simple.

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Re: Skate Nomenclature
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2020, 10:19:53 AM »
Usually im not one to engage in trick semantics, but wow thats some ass backward thinking. Only time something is fakie is when youre going backwards.

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Re: Skate Nomenclature
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2020, 10:28:14 AM »

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names always follow regular stance


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Re: Skate Nomenclature
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2020, 10:30:50 AM »

No such thing as ‘switch fakie’ but thats not what you said. Not sure how accurate that guys statement is but it’s all subjective.

I say varial flip instead of ‘shuv-it flip’. I say caballarial instead of ‘fakie backside 360 ollie’. That may not be the proper nomenclature but that’s what i was raised on.

As far as nollie frontside/backside. I see it as how your shoulders turn in relation to the direction you are moving and not mimicking the forward motion of your regular stance.
I’ll give you fakie but i still see it as which way your shoulders are turning.

It’s whatever you were brought up saying is what you say. No right or wrong.
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Re: Skate Nomenclature
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2020, 10:38:11 AM »
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Re: Skate Nomenclature
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2020, 10:41:50 AM »
fakie nollie ;)
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Re: Skate Nomenclature
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2020, 10:50:04 AM »
This dude on twitter (won’t ya but hey 👋 if you see this) who says he’s been skating since ‘89 and is a writer about skateboarding is trying to say stevie william’s epic switch backside 180 backside nosegrind on the picnic table photograph is a “switch backside 180 to fakie 5-0“ 

it makes sense if you see it like this : switch(bs 180 fakie 5-0)

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Re: Skate Nomenclature
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2020, 11:02:23 AM »
^
I see where his mind is going but in trick names you don’t say “switch” then say what you would call it if it were regular. 

Think about the difference between a nollie frontside flip and fakie frontside flip.
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Re: Skate Nomenclature
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2020, 11:25:46 AM »
Nollie half cab is one of the only ones that annoy me and I’ve heard a lots of pros say it 
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Re: Skate Nomenclature
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2020, 11:30:10 AM »
that's it.. fakie is canceled
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Re: Skate Nomenclature
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2020, 11:34:49 AM »
I just wish every trick was named like lien, madonna, etc.

Like name nose slides/grinds Gerwers just because non-skaters wouldn't know the most memorable nose in skateboarding. Doesn't matter he didn't create it.

I want more of this instead of arguing semantics. I move for increasing encryption of skateboarding language.

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Re: Skate Nomenclature
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2020, 11:36:02 AM »
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This dude on twitter (won’t ya but hey 👋 if you see this) who says he’s been skating since ‘89 and is a writer about skateboarding is trying to say stevie william’s epic switch backside 180 backside nosegrind on the picnic table photograph is a “switch backside 180 to fakie 5-0“
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it makes sense if you see it like this : switch(bs 180 fakie 5-0)

exactly this.

either way, it's the least important thing happening on the planet right now.
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Re: Skate Nomenclature
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2020, 11:36:28 AM »
I usually just say, "That was really cool, that trick he just did." Then someone's all, "Yeah, that [insert cool trick here] was fucking nutso." And then I just nod my head.
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Re: Skate Nomenclature
« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2020, 11:41:09 AM »
Nollie half cab is one of the only ones that annoy me and I’ve heard a lots of pros say it

i get nollie confused, what would that be?
nollie frontside 180?

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Re: Skate Nomenclature
« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2020, 11:44:33 AM »
Yeah
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Re: Skate Nomenclature
« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2020, 12:25:00 PM »
why is a fullcab backside? you turn to your frontside/ your frontside is facing were you go. or does the second half of the rotation count for the name? is a halfcab frontside and a full backside? i am confused

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Re: Skate Nomenclature
« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2020, 12:35:08 PM »
why is a fullcab backside? you turn to your frontside/ your frontside is facing were you go. or does the second half of the rotation count for the name? is a halfcab frontside and a full backside? i am confused

Its based on the direction you spin when going your normal stance. Only time a spin is "Opposite" is when youre going fakie.

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Re: Skate Nomenclature
« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2020, 12:42:04 PM »
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why is a fullcab backside? you turn to your frontside/ your frontside is facing were you go. or does the second half of the rotation count for the name? is a halfcab frontside and a full backside? i am confused
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but a full cab is fakie. what about nollie then? that’s backwards yeah?

Its based on the direction you spin when going your normal stance. Only time a spin is "Opposite" is when youre going fakie.

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Re: Skate Nomenclature
« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2020, 12:48:27 PM »
Lip trick nomenclature fucks people up too. Yesterday I heard a kid tell his friend “He just did a McTwist!” after my homie did a Miller.

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Re: Skate Nomenclature
« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2020, 12:49:43 PM »
Yeah a half cab is the same motion as a backside 180

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Re: Skate Nomenclature
« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2020, 01:01:05 PM »
Yeah a half cab is the same motion as a backside 180

but my backside (eg ass) goes in direction of motion when i do a backside 180.  My frontside (eg dick) goes in direction of motion when i do a fs180. 

when i ride nollie and do a 180 facing my frontside (dick) in direction of motion, it is called a frontside 180, no?

when i go fakie and my butt goes in direction of motion it schould be backside. eg the opposite nomenclature of a regular 180.

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Re: Skate Nomenclature
« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2020, 01:17:23 PM »
when i ride nollie and do a 180 facing my frontside (dick) in direction of motion, it is called a frontside 180, no?

*Yes

when i go fakie and my butt goes in direction of motion it schould be backside.

*Should be? That may be your opinion but it is not correct. Fakie spins are named as backwards. This is the source of the confusion. It’s the way it is though.

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Re: Skate Nomenclature
« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2020, 01:32:38 PM »
Lip trick nomenclature fucks people up too. Yesterday I heard a kid tell his friend “He just did a McTwist!” after my homie did a Miller.

Definitely had to look up what a miller flip was. Heard the name many times but thought it was something else. I've been skating for 15 years I had but I probably could identify like 5 grab tricks like that.

It definitely irks me a little bit when people mistake fs and bs or even worse they'll rename tricks as a wild animal or natural disaster.

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Re: Skate Nomenclature
« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2020, 01:35:43 PM »
I’ve heard switch nose manual used to describe both switch manuals and fakie manuals

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Re: Skate Nomenclature
« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2020, 01:50:03 PM »
Isn't Ollie North another one? I thought that Tony Hawks Pro Skater made that name up.

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Re: Skate Nomenclature
« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2020, 02:04:04 PM »
Isn't Ollie North another one? I thought that Tony Hawks Pro Skater made that name up.
Nope.
I recall calling them that well before the game.
Good example of variance though, as BOTH are acceptable terminology.

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Re: Skate Nomenclature
« Reply #28 on: July 17, 2020, 02:07:11 PM »
They say different names on street league and X games to. I don't care what you call it as long as you are getting it. Once the Olympic star it's gonna be pretty crazy to hear if they get things even close to the proper name

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Re: Skate Nomenclature
« Reply #29 on: July 17, 2020, 02:52:59 PM »
Yawn.