Skate Nomenclature

[smellsdead]

ive always called the front nose 270 a "karl watson" and if you dont you a chump

[BieberStance]

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when i ride nollie and do a 180 facing my frontside (dick) in direction of motion, it is called a frontside 180, no?

*Yes

when i go fakie and my butt goes in direction of motion it schould be backside.

*Should be? That may be your opinion but it is not correct. Fakie spins are named as backwards. This is the source of the confusion. It’s the way it is though.

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*my notes

weird. but thank you

[Lou Strux]

Wheel chirpers.
Kangaroos.
Reverse heli-spins.
Mega flips & hyper flips.
Axel scrapers.
“Dropped” axel scrapers.
Tip skids.
Rotato-supremoes.
Extra extreme air thrusts with backward rollaways.
Get, get, get yourself some radical!

[layzieyez]

Hawknado = 900

[johnes]

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Isn't Ollie North another one? I thought that Tony Hawks Pro Skater made that name up.

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Nope.
I recall calling them that well before the game.
Good example of variance though, as BOTH are acceptable terminology.

These days I say ollie one foot but I don’t mind when people say ollie north.

[cricketclub]

I guess it’s kind of fitting the only trick I can think of that ruins the consistency of skate nomenclature is a nollie front shuv which is gross anyway.

[JohnOakley]

This is officially the most under 30's thread in the history of Slap.

[cricketclub]

Fuck yeah. I’m 30 so I’ll take that as a compliment.

I’m fully aware I have produced some of the most obscurely boring threads of the last couple years. One was a poll to see how folks tied their shoes: over - under or under - over?

[handsclapanin]

When and why did taildrops start getting renamed as power ollies?
I hear the youngsters use that term nowadays.

[art hellman]

i saw that thread on twitter and the dude is wrong, plain and simple.

the overlap between SLAP and skate twitter content is becoming a bit too RIDE Channel-esque.  plenty of skate twits love to complain about SLAP and yet continue to mine the boards for hot takes and topics. 

flip it:  SLAP topics based on skate twitter threads are equally uninspired 

not directed solely at you @cricketclub, I guess i'm just calling for a greater divide/diversification in skate content platforms! 

[4LOM]

bs noseslide = woolly mammoth slide

Or “mammuthus primigenius slide“ for all the Rhodes scholars out there

[cricketclub]

Can we all agree the falcon stomp is canon?

[quarterpound]

I usually just say, "That was really cool, that trick he just did." Then someone's all, "Yeah, that [insert cool trick here] was fucking nutso." And then I just nod my head.

This, was just saying i wish my old boy lived here, so he could instantly identify every trick and i could just go back to board taps and head nods

[Featherdale wildlife park]

Front cab is a lien cab. It’s so obvious if you’ve got a clue.

[Thomas]

Fakie 5-0 and switch nosegrind are the same trick.

[Featherdale wildlife park]

Nope fakie 5-0 would be switch mollie nose jizz

[companguero]

Fakie 5-0 and switch nosegrind are the same trick.

someone with the knowledge should be able to correlate musical vocabulary here.

"B flat is A sharp" and vice versa

[Dante Bichette]

I've been skating for 7ish years now and I still confuse smiths/feebles on a daily basis.

[Szechuan]

When and why did taildrops start getting renamed as power ollies?
I hear the youngsters use that term nowadays.

I've only called them power ollies since like 2001.

[stillcantreflip]

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When and why did taildrops start getting renamed as power ollies?
I hear the youngsters use that term nowadays.

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I've only called them power ollies since like 2001.

what is a power ollie/tail drop anyway? cant say ive ever heard that

[Szechuan]

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When and why did taildrops start getting renamed as power ollies?
I hear the youngsters use that term nowadays.

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I've only called them power ollies since like 2001.

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what is a power ollie/tail drop anyway? cant say ive ever heard that

We always called a Bam style tail stall to ollie gap out. Power ollies down the 6 stair at the local was the jam when I was 12.

[TheLowerBack]

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When and why did taildrops start getting renamed as power ollies?
I hear the youngsters use that term nowadays.

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I've only called them power ollies since like 2001.

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what is a power ollie/tail drop anyway? cant say ive ever heard that

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We always called a Bam style tail stall to ollie gap out. Power ollies down the 6 stair at the local was the jam when I was 12.

*stallies

[Szechuan]

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When and why did taildrops start getting renamed as power ollies?
I hear the youngsters use that term nowadays.

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I've only called them power ollies since like 2001.

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what is a power ollie/tail drop anyway? cant say ive ever heard that

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We always called a Bam style tail stall to ollie gap out. Power ollies down the 6 stair at the local was the jam when I was 12.

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*stallies

Paulies

[fakie nollie]

Ain’t no such thing as switch fakie and if that is not already a slap username I’m sure some troll will take it soon.

Fakie 5-0 and switch nosegrind are the same trick.

This is an offensive level of trolling

[Dong Hanglo]

Me and my homies have all kinds of made up names for well known tricks. Can you guess what a Front Lashandra is? Or a Backside Breaker is? Also, does it matter?

[matty_c]

Years ago I heard someone call a back smith to frontside a Nancy Reagan.
I still don’t get it but I call em that in my head

[Flabby cold demeanor]

 Well the thread title is interesting and if we want to make naming of tricks more like organic chemistry I suggest the following:

First we imagine four axis over the board similar to a compass.  Let's call them N (for the north to soith axis)  and E (for the east to west axis)  and a third axis coming out of the screen vertically call V

For regular stance:

If you do a shuv it the board the board rotates 180 degrees clockwise around axis V.  So we call it a CW180V.

For a kickflip the board rotates 360 clockwise around N. It becomes a CW180N.

Now if you turn with the board for a backside 180 you have to describe the board movement then the rider movement seperated by a dash.   It becomes a CW180V-CW180V.

If the board rotates around two axis you seperate those movements with a /.

So a "hardflip backside tailslide" would be a ACW90V/CW180N-CW90V to Backside Tailslide.

Now obviously we need a similar system to describe slides and grinds.

The theory needs a little work but presents the only real opportunity for a unifying theory of trick names that will end all of these arguements.

[DISTANT RUMOURS]

That reminds me of the time some dude at our skatepark said he could do switch nollie kickflips.

At first I was impressed, and after a few seconds I was like 'Wait a minuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuute!!!!!'

[Arto!Arto!WakeUp!]

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Fakie 5-0 and switch nosegrind are the same trick.

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someone with the knowledge should be able to correlate musical vocabulary here.

"B flat is A sharp" and vice versa

if you take a photo mid-grind, then yes they're the same position. but that doesn't make them the same trick.

the difference comes from the wider context of how you got into that position. if you popped switch, it's a switch nose grind. if you popped fakie, it's a fakie 5-0. if you popped regular or nollie and span 180 into it, it's also a fakie 5-0.

to go back to the musical metaphor, while b-flat and a-sharp are - in of themselves - identical, the wider context of the piece determines what name you would use. if you are in a key that has a b-natural then you would say a-sharp to avoid having two versions of b (which messes up the stave system of notation) and if you were in a key that had an a-natural you would call it a b-flat for the same reason.

in both the case of the 'identical' grinds and the 'identical' notes, the different available names are actually reflections of other factors going on around the grind/note rather than the grind/note itself.

do you know the expression 'blowing hot and cold'? it comes from a folk story (there are various versions of it in different cultures) where a creature observing human behaviour is amused to see a peasant blowing on his hands to warm them up while out working the fields, and then blowing on his soup to cool it down at lunchtime. same gesture, different context.

it gets interesting when you start changing the borders with regards the semantic units making up a trick name.

for instance, with 'regular 180 to fakie 5-0', i've got four elements to the name (stance, spin, stance, grind)

but i could shorthand that to a single unit: pupecki grind

now, with the original longer name i can't simply place switch in front of it to designate the mirrored version. the name changes entirely, becoming a switch 180 to regualr nose grind.

given that that's the case for the longfrom name, is it acceptable to say 'switch pupecki grind'?

i'd say no, but i struggle to fully articulate why.

i also - contrarily - wouldn't have a problem with 'switch barley grind' even though the same logic applies.

in conclusion: shrug.   

[silhouette]

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When and why did taildrops start getting renamed as power ollies?
I hear the youngsters use that term nowadays.

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I've only called them power ollies since like 2001.

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what is a power ollie/tail drop anyway? cant say ive ever heard that

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We always called a Bam style tail stall to ollie gap out. Power ollies down the 6 stair at the local was the jam when I was 12.

I've also been hearing the term 'elevator' a lot from different people who all skated in Europe in the 80's.