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Cariuma isn't the coolest company, but I do appreciate how they embrace being environmentally conscious and sustainable - something every company should be doing. It doesn't seem like it's bullshit either.
https://cariuma.com/pages/about-us-sustainability
:'(Oh I didn’t notice that. Yeah, using leather is hypocritical due to how loads of climate change and global water shortages are due to the livestock industry (at least that’s what I learned in university back in the mid naughts). Hopefully they can switch up their material and they’ve made some positive change regardless.
what about petrol, oups sorry, vegan shoes ?
i'm genuinely wondering what's worse for the environment in the grand scheme of things:
- breeding cows for meat and leather at the same time
- extract oil to produce synthetic materials
what puts more pressure on the environment ?
in a way, leather is just a byproduct of meat production which is renewable. oil isn't renewable.
sidenote: i don't really care about politics and views on animal exploitation. iI'm just wondering if people want vegan shoes to avoid animal exploitation or because it's better for the environment to extract oil ?
so first, here is the whole thing about the byproduct myth, they probably summed it up better than I could:
https://shopvoke.com/blogs/the-heard/whats-wrong-with-leatherin short, it's not as simple, nor as environmentally friendly, as it sounds to "breed cows for meat and leather at the same time"
do I think synthetics are good for the environment? hell no, but we do know that the animal agriculture is one of the biggest contributors when it comes to environmental destruction so I fail to see how cariuma can talk "sustainability" while directly contributing to that industry.
If I was them (and lets ignore the whole animal rights thing in their case because it's obvious they don't give a fuck), I would have at least come out of the gate pushing recycled materials from the get go: recycled or upcycled leather as well as outsoles would have least made it sound like they know what the fuck they are talking about. hell, I won't wear down but I can "respect" a company that at least only strives to use recycled down in their products to reduce waste/ landfill. Cariuma came out punching with the whole “check us out, we’re sustainable gaiz!” but the only thing I can find to back that up is their shipping boxes? And they plant trees like Toms and Etnies already do? Cork insoles? Great, but most skaters swap insoles anyway...
In the scheme of things, and especially if you are using newly produced leather, you are just pissing in the ocean!
Mike V touched a bit on his upcoming (vegan) shoe with them and he did mention the word “recycled” a lot so let’s see if they can get it half right for his model... who am I kidding though, I’m a massive Mike V fan, but I doubt I’ll ever buy any of their shoes!
Now the 2nd point is that you assume that vegan shoes can only be made by petrochemical byproducts (synth) when that's actually nowhere even remotely true. If I had my own vegan shoe company, I'd be looking at mostly hemp shoes with recycled rubber for the soles and maybe biodegradable microfibre on the high wear areas (or again, KitKat recycled rubber). No one is doing that in the skate industry (I-path was getting pretty close back in the day) but places like brave gentlemen and wills are on the ball with that and are even using ethical working conditions which is another huge issue in the whole production line.
Even with synth these days, look at something Adidas' prime green or whatever it's called: a good % of it made from recycled plastics etc, still better than raising an animal from birth and then slaughtering it for a product that you 100% do not even actually need (and if you do “need” it procure it from a recycled source)
At the end of the day, even vegans will differ on their stances about a lot certain issues. For myself, I want to avoid eating/ wearing any animal products where possible. Personally I won't even buy PVC jackets or whatever these days because it's not worth producing something like only to have it peel off in less than 2 years and then be thrown away, but some vegan ms are fine as long as it contains no animal products. If I wanted a leather jacket (I don’t) I’d probably buy one second hand and rock it for 20+ years.
Skate shoes will get trashed either way though so it’s not like you can make the same argument as my leather jacket example up there. Plus I think we are at a point technologically (as mentioned above) where we no longer have to rely on leather or down or fur; we only choose to do so because the fashion industry has pushed those materials on us for so long as something to be luxurious and desired, when they are completely unnecessary and simply put, disgusting when you step back and really look at what they are: pieces of a dead animal carcass that you use to decorate yourself with... yeah, that’s cool if your an Eskimo living off the land in the south poll but none of us posting on here fall into that category AFAIK
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