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Re: 2021 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #1500 on: October 15, 2021, 08:09:48 PM »
yeah and what skateboarding really needs is more fucking cowards like you, right?

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Re: 2021 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #1501 on: October 15, 2021, 08:32:00 PM »
I hate the dunk craze and can't wait for it to die. If this is what you have to go through just to get a pair of fucking skate shoes, just do first come first serve in store only and you solve the problem. Don't make any special announcements, just put the shoe on the rack like any other shoe and be done with it.


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Re: 2021 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #1502 on: October 15, 2021, 08:49:14 PM »
I hate the dunk craze and can't wait for it to die. If this is what you have to go through just to get a pair of fucking skate shoes, just do first come first serve in store only and you solve the problem. Don't make any special announcements, just put the shoe on the rack like any other shoe and be done with it.




I really don't get the dunks thing either. They don't even skate that good. Plus whenever I see someone wearing them instead of thinking it's cool they got them I get second hand embarrassment knowing they jumped thru hoops like a dweeb.

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Re: 2021 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #1503 on: October 15, 2021, 09:07:30 PM »
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Re: 2021 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #1504 on: October 15, 2021, 09:21:16 PM »
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R.I.P Thunder Trucks

Never expected that company to jump on the 'New Demographic Revenue Stream' bandwagon trend where sponsorship is concerned..?

Mental Illness should be treated, never coddled.

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Re: 2021 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #1505 on: October 16, 2021, 06:15:49 AM »
I hate the dunk craze and can't wait for it to die. If this is what you have to go through just to get a pair of fucking skate shoes, just do first come first serve in store only and you solve the problem. Don't make any special announcements, just put the shoe on the rack like any other shoe and be done with it.







I got two dead stock pairs for 180€ on Vinted meanwhile these guys have to donate an entire skateboard and pay over a hundred bucks. I’m sorry but anyone falling for this is an idiot

Edit: don’t wanna feed the virtue signalling post below and derail so I’ll correct my original post. First, I never had the intention of bragging about my spending, I should have worded this better to be fair, I only meant you can buy dunks for cheap on second hand platforms, used or dead stock in my case. I personally don’t give a shit about Nike or how dunk looks, I just like them because they have uniform padding, a wide toe box and are cup soles. I would love to support a brand making similar shoes in actual reputable factories that pay their adult, not children, workers fairly. Something tells me you don’t have any answers and just typed out yet another post shitting on dunks because of some vague moral standard even though whichever brand you skate most likely produces their shoes in sweatshops too. We’re all consumer cattle by the way, every single thing you buy has a negative impact on something or someone you elitist cunt, don’t act like you’re above the rest. And yeah I’m an idiot, everyone in this site is, we’re all someone else’s idiot.
Now please do post actual brands making shoes similar to dunks without the nasty package, I’m tired of looking around for a replacement
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Re: 2021 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #1506 on: October 16, 2021, 07:10:43 AM »
Anyone roving the internet’s in order to proudly display that they have fallen for the big-budget marketing and are unabashedly  sucking corporate cock for over-hyped sweatshop footwear is not one to be making fun of others mental prowess.
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Re: 2021 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #1507 on: October 16, 2021, 07:42:45 AM »
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I hate the dunk craze and can't wait for it to die. If this is what you have to go through just to get a pair of fucking skate shoes, just do first come first serve in store only and you solve the problem. Don't make any special announcements, just put the shoe on the rack like any other shoe and be done with it.



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I got two dead stock pairs for 180€ on Vinted meanwhile these guys have to donate an entire skateboard and pay over a hundred bucks. I’m sorry but anyone falling for this is an idiot

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Anyone roving the internet’s in order to proudly display that they have fallen for the big-budget marketing and are unabashedly  sucking corporate cock for over-hyped sweatshop footwear is not one to be making fun of others mental prowess.

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It actually brings me down to see this stuff. We can do better than this.
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Re: 2021 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #1508 on: October 16, 2021, 07:46:03 AM »
Ok but dunks are the only good wide skate shoe I've found and you can still get them on ebay

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Re: 2021 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #1509 on: October 16, 2021, 07:48:12 AM »
Ok but dunks are the only good wide skate shoe I've found and you can still get them on ebay

I pointed this out in my edit but the appropriately named cucktard most likely doesn’t care and came here to talk shit

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Re: 2021 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #1510 on: October 16, 2021, 08:02:10 AM »
I just want to clarify from my post that I wasn't in anyway talking shit on dunks or people who buy and skate dunks. I'm just pointing out that this is such a shitty practice that skate shop owners deem reasonable for us the consumer to buy a pair of shoes. I like dunks, but refuse to shell out to scalpers or "donate" my whole complete set up to shell out even more money to buy a pair of shoes.
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Re: 2021 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #1511 on: October 16, 2021, 08:02:31 AM »
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Ok but dunks are the only good wide skate shoe I've found and you can still get them on ebay
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I pointed this out in my edit but the appropriately named cucktard most likely doesn’t care and came here to talk shit

So, I’m supposed to read your post, you respond in your edit, and then get blamed for not reading the edit before I posted?
 
Are you blaming me for the inability to timetravel?
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Re: 2021 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #1512 on: October 16, 2021, 08:31:33 AM »




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Re: 2021 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #1513 on: October 16, 2021, 08:53:27 AM »
getting gear at full price is goofy, complaining about it is even worse

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Re: 2021 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #1514 on: October 16, 2021, 09:01:30 AM »
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R.I.P Thunder Trucks

Never expected that company to jump on the 'New Demographic Revenue Stream' bandwagon trend where sponsorship is concerned..?

Mental Illness should be treated, never coddled.

The only Tranny needed in Skateboarding is on Vert.
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Get fucked dork. Go do a noseslide down a fifty stair with your face

If you’re going to be mad at Thunder, be mad at the fact that the axles on those trucks are 100% guaranteed to slip and you’ll need to get new trucks.
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Re: 2021 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #1515 on: October 16, 2021, 09:31:41 AM »
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Ok but dunks are the only good wide skate shoe I've found and you can still get them on ebay
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I pointed this out in my edit but the appropriately named cucktard most likely doesn’t care and came here to talk shit
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So, I’m supposed to read your post, you respond in your edit, and then get blamed for not reading the edit before I posted?
 
Are you blaming me for the inability to timetravel?

Yeah that was in bad faith, I’d still appreciate if you shouted out some brands similar to dunks but made responsibly though

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Re: 2021 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #1516 on: October 16, 2021, 04:19:20 PM »
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Ok but dunks are the only good wide skate shoe I've found and you can still get them on ebay
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I pointed this out in my edit but the appropriately named cucktard most likely doesn’t care and came here to talk shit
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So, I’m supposed to read your post, you respond in your edit, and then get blamed for not reading the edit before I posted?
 
Are you blaming me for the inability to timetravel?
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Yeah that was in bad faith, I’d still appreciate if you shouted out some brands similar to dunks but made responsibly though

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Ok but dunks are the only good wide skate shoe I've found and you can still get them on ebay
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I pointed this out in my edit but the appropriately named cucktard most likely doesn’t care and came here to talk shit
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So, I’m supposed to read your post, you respond in your edit, and then get blamed for not reading the edit before I posted?
 
Are you blaming me for the inability to timetravel?
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Yeah that was in bad faith, I’d still appreciate if you shouted out some brands similar to dunks but made responsibly though

Sorry to slightly derail , but I bought two pairs of Straye Venice Highs for £50. They are definitely one of the wider shoes I’ve worn and skated. You can get them dirty cheap online , and while not a cupsole they have enough room in them to accommodate big ass insoles you may swap out their stock ones for.


On topic :

I just watched the majority of Pretty Sweet BluRay and have some thoughts that may or may not be popular:

-I love VX but this looks mad good on my 49 inch
-Brandon Biebel the idiot made me laugh when waving that ticket beside the cop.
-Olsen, BA and Carrol is the best part.
-Hotel California may work, but similar to Adrian Lopez, I can’t help but find non English music out of place in the middle of a video.
-Elijah Berle wishes he had an identifiable image but doesn’t. Skating to Bad Brains and Suicidal tendencies is not interesting and proves nothing other than the fact that a Spitfire cap or Beanie are your most defining features. I will never watch this part again.
-MJ with a white tee cuffed pants looks better than the majority of outfits these days. Fuck this part is so good and does not get the love it deserves. I’ve been wanting jeans like those dark wash ones he wears here for so long.
-Far too many Nollie heels out of ledge lip+board slides in this vid / era.
-Malto skating to Justice works so well and his part has some great tricks in it (Overcrook shove on that mellow rail, gnar front crook drop, bs noseblunt that fat hubba, beautiful ender).Get fucking hungry on it, girl.
-Mariano’s part worked with the music. How old is he here?pretty good for an ex Junkie child star. This part is so good and overlooked.


Also everyone who hated on Berra for “fake spots” is an idiot and has obviously never paid attention to skate videos. It was blown way out of proportion and it was NOT as deceptive as people wanted to claim it was. There was literally an interview (some
Of which was published in AWS adverts) that detailed it. And John Holland’s (I think) ledge spot on waste ground is a spot I actually miss seeing footage from .



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Re: 2021 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #1517 on: October 16, 2021, 04:16:27 PM »
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Ok but dunks are the only good wide skate shoe I've found and you can still get them on ebay
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I pointed this out in my edit but the appropriately named cucktard most likely doesn’t care and came here to talk shit
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So, I’m supposed to read your post, you respond in your edit, and then get blamed for not reading the edit before I posted?
 
Are you blaming me for the inability to timetravel?
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Yeah that was in bad faith, I’d still appreciate if you shouted out some brands similar to dunks but made responsibly though

Sorry to slightly derail , but I bought two pairs of Straye Venice Highs for £50. They are definitely one of the wider shoes I’ve worn and skated. You can get them dirty cheap online , and while not a cupsole they have enough room in them to accommodate big ass insoles you may swap out their stock ones for.


On topic :

I just watched the majority of Pretty Sweet BluRay and have some thoughts that may or may not be popular:

-I love VX but this looks mad good on my 49 inch
-Brandon Biebel the idiot made me laugh when waving that ticket beside the cop.
-Olsen, BA and Carrol is the best part.
-Hotel California may work, but similar to Adrian Lopez, I can’t help but find non English music out of place in the middle of a video.
-Elijah Berle wishes he had an identifiable image but doesn’t. Skating to Bad Brains and Suicidal tendencies is not interesting and proves nothing other than the fact that a Spitfire cap or Beanie are your most defining features. I will never watch this part again.
-MJ with a white tee cuffed pants looks better than the majority of outfits these days. Fuck this part is so good and does not get the love it deserves. I’ve been wanting jeans like those dark wash ones he wears here for so long.
-Far too many Nollie heels out of ledge lip+board slides in this vid / era.
-Malto skating to Justice works so well and his part has some great tricks in it (Overcrook shove on that mellow rail, gnar front crook drop, bs noseblunt that fat hubba, beautiful ender).Get fucking hungry on it, girl.
-Mariano’s part worked with the music. How old is he here?pretty good for an ex Junkie child star. This part is so good and overlooked.


Also everyone who hated on Berra for “fake spots” is an idiot and has obviously never paid attention to skate videos. It was blown way out of proportion and it was NOT as deceptive as people wanted to claim it was. There was literally an interview (some
Of which was published in AWS adverts) that detailed it. And John Holland’s (I think) ledge spot on waste ground is a spot I actually miss seeing footage from .



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Re: 2021 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #1518 on: October 17, 2021, 09:04:15 AM »
sk8ing a dipped board for the 1st time ever. guess theyre ok

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Re: 2021 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #1519 on: October 17, 2021, 09:25:06 AM »
Also everyone who hated on Berra for “fake spots” is an idiot and has obviously never paid attention to skate videos. 


I won't deny being an idiot but when I was younger I was obsessive about watching skate videos. what other skate videos before skate more have fake spots? As in fully made spots designed to appear real, not just a wooden box or stacked pallets or something. Also doesn't Steve's part has sped up footage in it

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Re: 2021 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #1520 on: October 17, 2021, 09:30:02 AM »
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R.I.P Thunder Trucks

Never expected that company to jump on the 'New Demographic Revenue Stream' bandwagon trend where sponsorship is concerned..?

Mental Illness should be treated, never coddled.

The only Tranny needed in Skateboarding is on Vert.
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Get fucked dork. Go do a noseslide down a fifty stair with your face
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If you’re going to be mad at Thunder, be mad at the fact that the axles on those trucks are 100% guaranteed to slip and you’ll need to get new trucks.

You need to be mad at the polite young urban gentlemen negotiating yo' deals. 

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Re: 2021 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #1521 on: October 17, 2021, 10:21:12 AM »
Cheshire Ca, thanks for the info, they look real nice, might look a bit further when I find the time

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Re: 2021 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #1522 on: October 17, 2021, 05:34:44 PM »
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Ok but dunks are the only good wide skate shoe I've found and you can still get them on ebay
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I pointed this out in my edit but the appropriately named cucktard most likely doesn’t care and came here to talk shit
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So, I’m supposed to read your post, you respond in your edit, and then get blamed for not reading the edit before I posted?
 
Are you blaming me for the inability to timetravel?
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Yeah that was in bad faith, I’d still appreciate if you shouted out some brands similar to dunks but made responsibly though

there's pretty much zero shoes made responsibly unless you go to a shoemaker and have them made for you. if there is any reason why you shouldn't buy nikes it's because you only help them to consolidate their stranglehold on sportswear as a whole and any brand trying to participate in it responsibly. they can basically do what they want without legal repurcussions, even employ slave labor. the main reason why there are close to none responsible shoe companies out there is that the fact that big corps set the production standards, which means smaller, newish brands can't possibly cover basic operations, let alone thrive, if they start out with a costly, but responsible production model.

you will never see vulcanized shoes made in europe, because the production process is basically illegal in the eu. this is why brands like vegetarian shoes out of uk have to note that their vulc shoes are actually produced in asia. so not only are the means of production fucked, many skaters that love vulcs would now have to deal with skating cupsoles.

i'm pretty sure the vulc thing is one of the reasons last resort were produced in vietnam at last.

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Re: 2021 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #1523 on: October 17, 2021, 06:47:02 PM »
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Ok but dunks are the only good wide skate shoe I've found and you can still get them on ebay
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I pointed this out in my edit but the appropriately named cucktard most likely doesn’t care and came here to talk shit
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So, I’m supposed to read your post, you respond in your edit, and then get blamed for not reading the edit before I posted?
 
Are you blaming me for the inability to timetravel?
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Yeah that was in bad faith, I’d still appreciate if you shouted out some brands similar to dunks but made responsibly though
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there's pretty much zero shoes made responsibly unless you go to a shoemaker and have them made for you. if there is any reason why you shouldn't buy nikes it's because you only help them to consolidate their stranglehold on sportswear as a whole and any brand trying to participate in it responsibly. they can basically do what they want without legal repurcussions, even employ slave labor. the main reason why there are close to none responsible shoe companies out there is that the fact that big corps set the production standards, which means smaller, newish brands can't possibly cover basic operations, let alone thrive, if they start out with a costly, but responsible production model.

you will never see vulcanized shoes made in europe, because the production process is basically illegal in the eu. this is why brands like vegetarian shoes out of uk have to note that their vulc shoes are actually produced in asia. so not only are the means of production fucked, many skaters that love vulcs would now have to deal with skating cupsoles.

i'm pretty sure the vulc thing is one of the reasons last resort were produced in vietnam at last.

Thank you kindly for that response. I didn’t know about the vulc situation either. If it’s that bad to manufacture, I’m going to rethink about asking them.

And an even bigger thanks to replying to him for me, I was too tired yo bother.

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Re: 2021 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #1524 on: October 17, 2021, 06:50:01 PM »
sk8ing a dipped board for the 1st time ever. guess theyre ok
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Re: 2021 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #1525 on: October 17, 2021, 07:31:53 PM »
its white. the lil paint chips that flake kinda annoy me but thats about it

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Re: 2021 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #1526 on: October 17, 2021, 09:09:57 PM »

you will never see vulcanized shoes made in europe, because the production process is basically illegal in the eu. this is why brands like vegetarian shoes out of uk have to note that their vulc shoes are actually produced in asia. so not only are the means of production fucked, many skaters that love vulcs would now have to deal with skating cupsoles.

i'm pretty sure the vulc thing is one of the reasons last resort were produced in vietnam at last.

Sorry, super uneducated on this topic. Why is the mfg of vulc shoes illegal?

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Re: 2021 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #1527 on: October 17, 2021, 09:37:14 PM »
Shane oneil actually has very good style and a decent personality. People just don't like him (which is ok) but need a way to make themselves look good while being petty and calling him a robot has been deemed acceptable.  (There's also some anti regular Australian bias. Americans only like Australians who fit the stereotype of party dudes or massive assholes)

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Re: 2021 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #1528 on: October 17, 2021, 11:29:14 PM »
Shane oneil actually has very good style and a decent personality. People just don't like him (which is ok) but need a way to make themselves look good while being petty and calling him a robot has been deemed acceptable.  (There's also some anti regular Australian bias. Americans only like Australians who fit the stereotype of party dudes or massive assholes)

Are there that many people who really dislike Shane? I feel like he is generally pretty well liked and definitely respected among the community. The jokes comparing him to a robot and whatever are just because he's that good and automatic with his skating. 

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Re: 2021 unpopular opinion thread
« Reply #1529 on: October 17, 2021, 11:49:50 PM »

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you will never see vulcanized shoes made in europe, because the production process is basically illegal in the eu. this is why brands like vegetarian shoes out of uk have to note that their vulc shoes are actually produced in asia. so not only are the means of production fucked, many skaters that love vulcs would now have to deal with skating cupsoles.

i'm pretty sure the vulc thing is one of the reasons last resort were produced in vietnam at last.
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Sorry, super uneducated on this topic. Why is the mfg of vulc shoes illegal?

as far as i know, traditional vulcanization processes have been made more or less illegal in the eu after production of most shoes was outsourced already since it's terrible for the environment and workers involved. either that or it's practically illegal, meaning that the hurdles to do it in eu are either impossible to match or that these hurdles make it super unprofitable to attempt.

now i want to read up on that situation though. there used to be a euro skate shoe company whose name i honestly forgot, their shoes were rather bland, but they claimed they made them in eu in a military shoe factory. some of their models definetly looked like vulcs. then again, maybe if you produce with a contractor who manufactures military equipment also there are exceptions to environmental restricitions.

what definetly adds up is that it's impossible to find a vulc shoe made in eu. the thing with it being illegal was something a shoe rep once told me, but i have to admit i never fact checked it.