The Thunder Thread

[flamincheney]

Warranty guy at DLX said he’s gonna send me a new IKP. Good on them.

[BL0B]

i don't wanna gas you up for a let down but you're probably getting a whole new set of trucks. DLX knows whats up!

[vicious cycle]

https://www.vamos-skateshop.com/p/rellik-universal-kingpin-nut-innensechskant-allen

I found these as a Thunder ikp replacement.
Not sure if they are available outside of the EU. I never heard about these trucks before, but the kingpin seems good quality.
The thread is 20mm long. Still shorter than the Thunder ones i belive.
I did not tryed them yet. I just bought these for the case. My originals are still good and i loctided them in.

[Fooj]

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T2 lower looks to be a proprietary shape and height, which isn't wonderful. Hopefully their bushings have improved in quality as well as even the new DLX 94 aftermarkets blow out on me and friends. A tester told me their T2 bushings were absurdly soft and they had to have 2-3 threads showing and their Indys are normally looser than mine are, which are blues with nut flush.

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As if the stocks weren't bad enough, we're now going to get the new 'soft' duro thane [ikp] with yet another unique height?
Hopefully they listen to early riders/current ikp owners and provide some aftter market duros at launch...but I doubt we will, probably have to wait post initial launch for those and anything hollow or IKP.

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Yah this same tester has IKP Thunder on his normal setup and he had to tighten the purples so much he put the KP into the deck. I think he now just uses Bones Standards. Shop employee who knows surprisingly little about gear, but works for an industry distro as well and got a pair of T2 during a trade show. He said the bushings were not quite as soft as the new ones but still insanely soft. Before Thunder he skated stock Indys with a thread showing but he skates really big shit. He is a bit fried but said there is only one model truck at launch and the catalog has no aftermarket bushings in it. So fried he prefers the way the normal Thunder kingpin drags on smiths and feebles and he's doing them down legit rails.

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That's awesome man haha.

Excuse the dumb question, but are Thunder and Venture bushings made from the same urethane? Only had ventures blow out on me once, granted the shapes are different.
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[back smith]

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T2 lower looks to be a proprietary shape and height, which isn't wonderful. Hopefully their bushings have improved in quality as well as even the new DLX 94 aftermarkets blow out on me and friends. A tester told me their T2 bushings were absurdly soft and they had to have 2-3 threads showing and their Indys are normally looser than mine are, which are blues with nut flush.

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As if the stocks weren't bad enough, we're now going to get the new 'soft' duro thane [ikp] with yet another unique height?
Hopefully they listen to early riders/current ikp owners and provide some aftter market duros at launch...but I doubt we will, probably have to wait post initial launch for those and anything hollow or IKP.

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Yah this same tester has IKP Thunder on his normal setup and he had to tighten the purples so much he put the KP into the deck. I think he now just uses Bones Standards. Shop employee who knows surprisingly little about gear, but works for an industry distro as well and got a pair of T2 during a trade show. He said the bushings were not quite as soft as the new ones but still insanely soft. Before Thunder he skated stock Indys with a thread showing but he skates really big shit. He is a bit fried but said there is only one model truck at launch and the catalog has no aftermarket bushings in it. So fried he prefers the way the normal Thunder kingpin drags on smiths and feebles and he's doing them down legit rails.

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That's awesome man haha.

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Excuse the dumb question, but are Thunder and Venture bushings the same made from the same urethane? Only had ventures blow out on me once, granted the shapes are different.

No

[Mbrimson88]

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T2 lower looks to be a proprietary shape and height, which isn't wonderful. Hopefully their bushings have improved in quality as well as even the new DLX 94 aftermarkets blow out on me and friends. A tester told me their T2 bushings were absurdly soft and they had to have 2-3 threads showing and their Indys are normally looser than mine are, which are blues with nut flush.

[close]

As if the stocks weren't bad enough, we're now going to get the new 'soft' duro thane [ikp] with yet another unique height?
Hopefully they listen to early riders/current ikp owners and provide some aftter market duros at launch...but I doubt we will, probably have to wait post initial launch for those and anything hollow or IKP.

[close]

Yah this same tester has IKP Thunder on his normal setup and he had to tighten the purples so much he put the KP into the deck. I think he now just uses Bones Standards. Shop employee who knows surprisingly little about gear, but works for an industry distro as well and got a pair of T2 during a trade show. He said the bushings were not quite as soft as the new ones but still insanely soft. Before Thunder he skated stock Indys with a thread showing but he skates really big shit. He is a bit fried but said there is only one model truck at launch and the catalog has no aftermarket bushings in it. So fried he prefers the way the normal Thunder kingpin drags on smiths and feebles and he's doing them down legit rails.

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That's awesome man haha.

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Excuse the dumb question, but are Thunder and Venture bushings the same made from the same urethane? Only had ventures blow out on me once, granted the shapes are different.

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No

I would have thought they were the same urethane, given they are both made via DLX from their manufacturing plant in Mexico (in or part of BBS, from what I understand) but I could be mistaken.

Seems odd that they would have different setups / different urethane between the two different brands, as they both appear much the same when checking, looking at them, doing the squeeze test with pliers or multi grips.

Of course they are different shapes, but it isn't that hard to have two sets of molds, where they make them, as per everything else they make there - Thunder and Venture trucks, Spitfire wheels, etc.

[back smith]

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T2 lower looks to be a proprietary shape and height, which isn't wonderful. Hopefully their bushings have improved in quality as well as even the new DLX 94 aftermarkets blow out on me and friends. A tester told me their T2 bushings were absurdly soft and they had to have 2-3 threads showing and their Indys are normally looser than mine are, which are blues with nut flush.

[close]

As if the stocks weren't bad enough, we're now going to get the new 'soft' duro thane [ikp] with yet another unique height?
Hopefully they listen to early riders/current ikp owners and provide some aftter market duros at launch...but I doubt we will, probably have to wait post initial launch for those and anything hollow or IKP.

[close]

Yah this same tester has IKP Thunder on his normal setup and he had to tighten the purples so much he put the KP into the deck. I think he now just uses Bones Standards. Shop employee who knows surprisingly little about gear, but works for an industry distro as well and got a pair of T2 during a trade show. He said the bushings were not quite as soft as the new ones but still insanely soft. Before Thunder he skated stock Indys with a thread showing but he skates really big shit. He is a bit fried but said there is only one model truck at launch and the catalog has no aftermarket bushings in it. So fried he prefers the way the normal Thunder kingpin drags on smiths and feebles and he's doing them down legit rails.

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That's awesome man haha.

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Excuse the dumb question, but are Thunder and Venture bushings the same made from the same urethane? Only had ventures blow out on me once, granted the shapes are different.

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No

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I would have thought they were the same urethane, given they are both made via DLX from their manufacturing plant in Mexico (in or part of BBS, from what I understand) but I could be mistaken.

Seems odd that they would have different setups / different urethane between the two different brands, as they both appear much the same when checking, looking at them, doing the squeeze test with pliers or multi grips.

Of course they are different shapes, but it isn't that hard to have two sets of molds, where they make them, as per everything else they make there - Thunder and Venture trucks, Spitfire wheels, etc.

Feels totally different when pushing my fingernail in.

[Mbrimson88]

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Excuse the dumb question, but are Thunder and Venture bushings the same made from the same urethane? Only had ventures blow out on me once, granted the shapes are different.

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No

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I would have thought they were the same urethane, given they are both made via DLX from their manufacturing plant in Mexico (in or part of BBS, from what I understand) but I could be mistaken.

Seems odd that they would have different setups / different urethane between the two different brands, as they both appear much the same when checking, looking at them, doing the squeeze test with pliers or multi grips.

Of course they are different shapes, but it isn't that hard to have two sets of molds, where they make them, as per everything else they make there - Thunder and Venture trucks, Spitfire wheels, etc.

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Feels totally different when pushing my fingernail in.

They say they are both 90 duro from the DLX information given too.

What do you find is different between the ones you have? 

Same age / new bushings, or used?


* Not arguing, genuinely curious to hear more.

[back smith]

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Excuse the dumb question, but are Thunder and Venture bushings the same made from the same urethane? Only had ventures blow out on me once, granted the shapes are different.

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No

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I would have thought they were the same urethane, given they are both made via DLX from their manufacturing plant in Mexico (in or part of BBS, from what I understand) but I could be mistaken.

Seems odd that they would have different setups / different urethane between the two different brands, as they both appear much the same when checking, looking at them, doing the squeeze test with pliers or multi grips.

Of course they are different shapes, but it isn't that hard to have two sets of molds, where they make them, as per everything else they make there - Thunder and Venture trucks, Spitfire wheels, etc.

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Feels totally different when pushing my fingernail in.

[close]

They say they are both 90 duro from the DLX information given too.

What do you find is different between the ones you have? 

Same age / new bushings, or used?


* Not arguing, genuinely curious to hear more.

Venture (purple) feel much more firm than Thunder (blue).

The Thunders are older and have been ridden much more.

[BalooBrown]

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Excuse the dumb question, but are Thunder and Venture bushings the same made from the same urethane? Only had ventures blow out on me once, granted the shapes are different.

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No

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I would have thought they were the same urethane, given they are both made via DLX from their manufacturing plant in Mexico (in or part of BBS, from what I understand) but I could be mistaken.

Seems odd that they would have different setups / different urethane between the two different brands, as they both appear much the same when checking, looking at them, doing the squeeze test with pliers or multi grips.

Of course they are different shapes, but it isn't that hard to have two sets of molds, where they make them, as per everything else they make there - Thunder and Venture trucks, Spitfire wheels, etc.

[close]

Feels totally different when pushing my fingernail in.

[close]

They say they are both 90 duro from the DLX information given too.

What do you find is different between the ones you have? 

Same age / new bushings, or used?


* Not arguing, genuinely curious to hear more.

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Venture (purple) feel much more firm than Thunder (blue).

The Thunders are older and have been ridden much more.

I have venture blues in my v8s and they are way softer than my venture purples.
My thunder aftermarket yellow/orange are in the middle of those two.
My thunder blues that came with my standard 149s feel like the same softness as the v8 bushings. All are marketed as 90a

[back smith]

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Excuse the dumb question, but are Thunder and Venture bushings the same made from the same urethane? Only had ventures blow out on me once, granted the shapes are different.

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No

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I would have thought they were the same urethane, given they are both made via DLX from their manufacturing plant in Mexico (in or part of BBS, from what I understand) but I could be mistaken.

Seems odd that they would have different setups / different urethane between the two different brands, as they both appear much the same when checking, looking at them, doing the squeeze test with pliers or multi grips.

Of course they are different shapes, but it isn't that hard to have two sets of molds, where they make them, as per everything else they make there - Thunder and Venture trucks, Spitfire wheels, etc.

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Feels totally different when pushing my fingernail in.

[close]

They say they are both 90 duro from the DLX information given too.

What do you find is different between the ones you have? 

Same age / new bushings, or used?


* Not arguing, genuinely curious to hear more.

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Venture (purple) feel much more firm than Thunder (blue).

The Thunders are older and have been ridden much more.

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I have venture blues in my v8s and they are way softer than my venture purples.
My thunder aftermarket yellow/orange are in the middle of those two.
My thunder blues that came with my standard 149s feel like the same softness as the v8 bushings. All are marketed as 90a

Ha! Maybe the urethane is 90a without any dye and then with dye... something else.

[BeachChicken]

All DLX bushings are made in the same place. Source: Jim fucking T.

[rikki]

I have venture blues in my v8s and they are way softer than my venture purples.

This is correct. The blues feel almost too soft.

[BeachChicken]

The new bushings are softer. They recently switched where they are poured and tried a new formula that would be more durable. But they've always been made together regardless of your fingernail test.

[Troubadour26]

Homie threw some 149s my way after another homie threw me two of his skated 8.5s. I’ve been on 8 1/4 for a few years now, skated 8.5 all through high school. I feel very comfortable.

I love my Thunders. I don’t remember the last time that I had trucks with bottom conical bushings but I learned to skateboard on trucks with all conical bushings. I get some gnarly wheel-bite on occasion but it seems that they are an improvement from my Independent 144s

[Enrico Pallazzo]

I got scared the new T2s were gonna drop while Slap was down and I wouldn’t get to read everyone’s complaints before just buying a pair anyways.

[Too Frank To Fred]

I got scared the new T2s were gonna drop while Slap was down and I wouldn’t get to read everyone’s complaints before just buying a pair anyways.

This!

[Rick Trapasso]

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I got scared the new T2s were gonna drop while Slap was down and I wouldn’t get to read everyone’s complaints before just buying a pair anyways.

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This!

Who will be the first to cop and report back?

[BeachChicken]

I plan on buying these the first second I can and then eventually going back to Indys.

[hiljentaa]

I want to buy 149s so bad, but I must axle the 5.8s I have first

[Rick Trapasso]

I plan on buying these the first second I can and then eventually going back to Indys.

Lol

[Sedition]

I plan on buying these the first second I can and then eventually going back to Indys.

This. Exactly this.

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I plan on buying these the first second I can and then eventually going back to Indys.

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This. Exactly this.

hahaha, accurate
love the self-awareness
envious of having that preferred homebase/safe space to return towards

[Mbrimson88]

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Ha yeah, but at least everyone has time before they come out in June - a couple of months to get through whatever other trucks they are riding right now. 

As someone else said somewhere, the first run is 8, 8.25 and 8.5 widths, like the first run of the Inverted kingpin option trucks, which makes sense.  More people ride the 147, 148 and 149 than any other options, even though it would be interesting to see a 151 or wider in them as well, only this time you can't easily swap in the 151 hangers like people did for the inverted kingpin trucks.

[Too Frank To Fred]

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Ha yeah, but at least everyone has time before they come out in June - a couple of months to get through whatever other trucks they are riding right now. 

As someone else said somewhere, the first run is 8, 8.25 and 8.5 widths, like the first run of the Inverted kingpin option trucks, which makes sense.  More people ride the 147, 148 and 149 than any other options, even though it would be interesting to see a 151 or wider in them as well, only this time you can't easily swap in the 151 hangers like people did for the inverted kingpin trucks.

I hadn't seen any posts about the initial run of T2 sizes. That's unfortunate. I'd assume they'd put out some wider sizes for the bowl trolls who might be into a Thunder that turns better and can handle bigger wheels.

No 151 equivalent means no purchase for me for the time being...

[Sedition]

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Ha yeah, but at least everyone has time before they come out in June - a couple of months to get through whatever other trucks they are riding right now. 

As someone else said somewhere, the first run is 8, 8.25 and 8.5 widths, like the first run of the Inverted kingpin option trucks, which makes sense.  More people ride the 147, 148 and 149 than any other options, even though it would be interesting to see a 151 or wider in them as well, only this time you can't easily swap in the 151 hangers like people did for the inverted kingpin trucks.

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I hadn't seen any posts about the initial run of T2 sizes. That's unfortunate. I'd assume they'd put out some wider sizes for the bowl trolls who might be into a Thunder that turns better and can handle bigger wheels.

No 151 equivalent means no purchase for me for the time being...

Yeah, I feel like a taller truck lends itself to wider one, too. Hence, an 8.75 seems like it should be more in the mix than an 8.0, but I know that’s not how the market dictates.

[Too Frank To Fred]

Great point. In fact the existing Thunders go up a little in height at certain widths. I really think the 161s turn best out of the current line up.

[BartHarleyJarvis]

Bring 181s back

[Big Brother]

Great point. In fact the existing Thunders go up a little in height at certain widths. I really think the 161s turn best out of the current line up.

Recently discovering the 148 was higher than the 147 was a wheelbite game changer for me, without really widening the truck. 8.25/52mm/148 inverted. perfect. I could probably go to 53 if needed.

[tom]

I committed one of my personal biggest sins today by setting up brand new trucks on a well skated deck with well skated wheels. My axles were bent and making my wheels cone inwards so I tried to unbend them and accidentally made a slight double bend and now my wheels won't go back on. Anyways, I'm about to skate some 148 team editions and the stock bushings don't feel super hard first time in a long time. At least something positive comes out of me fucking around and finding out

update: I was fooled. they felt great for a while, then I sat down for a bit and they turned rock fucking hard lol