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Re: The Thunder Thread
« Reply #3750 on: July 14, 2025, 11:57:08 AM »
I’ve been watching Ben for years, I’m just not into his self satisfied “I’m doing you all a favor by uploading” vibe these days.

Yeah, I’ve been watching basically since the start and the vibe has definitely changed. He’s still a repository of madness-feeding knowledge, but post 9 Club he’s become especially sassy.

I’m not some Thunder expert, I’ve never even owned any. But what I’ve ridden I’ve liked because of how low they are. And I’m admittedly a DLX guy. But even if the T-IIs are just ‘Thunders for team riders who wish they were signed to Indy’ (as a not so generous YouTube comment described them), they still make the OGs so I’m not effected should I want to try them. I’m just not interested in something that skates more like an Indy/Ace.
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Re: The Thunder Thread
« Reply #3751 on: July 14, 2025, 12:59:22 PM »
Pretty sure he's just over it, doing those kind of vids.. but still doing it for the check.

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Re: The Thunder Thread
« Reply #3752 on: July 14, 2025, 01:42:38 PM »

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« Reply #3753 on: July 14, 2025, 03:06:59 PM »

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« Reply #3754 on: July 14, 2025, 03:32:05 PM »
Dowdy is a weird one- his views are so low it's obvious he's trying to manufacture his status as a YouTuber whereas Ben's came from posting content. Even if you skate like him his reviews are pretty poor and often not very useful or conclusive. I really hope no ones approach is similar since Zach appears to be doing it to make himself more important in his sphere than he actually is. No one is out there demanding his content.

I don't know if I'm being anal retentive, but it bothered me that he put the trucks on with loose bolts and only measured one side for the axle measurement. If you're going to go to that length at least measure both sides and average the 2. The trucks can shift enough when not tightened down and be stuck to one side enough to get incorrect measurements which some of his seem to be.

As a long time Indy and Thunder rider these turn nothing like either. I have had Stage 11 since they came out and have them on a setup now and it's not really close. Stage 11 has a nice progressive turn and for me more stability up top whereas T2 just completely dive and had none up top with the stock or Thunder 94 bushings.

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Re: The Thunder Thread
« Reply #3756 on: July 14, 2025, 03:59:03 PM »

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« Reply #3757 on: July 14, 2025, 04:13:41 PM »
Nice. I listen to a lot of John and Alice. You have a good taste.

However, I will still try T2s despite your compelling review.

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Re: The Thunder Thread
« Reply #3758 on: July 14, 2025, 07:16:26 PM »




I hope there’s at least one of you out there that can appreciate this with me.
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Re: The Thunder Thread
« Reply #3759 on: July 14, 2025, 08:46:23 PM »
I sort wanna get it but seeing but there's Indy forged on sale at my local I'm just gonna get that instead.

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Re: The Thunder Thread
« Reply #3760 on: July 14, 2025, 09:27:33 PM »




I hope there’s at least one of you out there that can appreciate this with me.

This is like the Thunderbird myth but for trailer park folk and I’m down
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Re: The Thunder Thread
« Reply #3761 on: July 15, 2025, 06:55:26 AM »
In his defense there is usually a Tactics rep standing behind the camera pointing a gun at him the entire time.


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Re: The Thunder Thread
« Reply #3762 on: July 15, 2025, 07:03:22 AM »
I can't stand Dowdy. From his lisp to his mispronunciation of common words, to him hanging out with that Spencer Nuzzi guy, to him looking like a sun burnt Wes Anderson, all of it I hate.

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Re: The Thunder Thread
« Reply #3763 on: July 15, 2025, 07:51:24 AM »
I can't stand Dowdy. From his lisp to his mispronunciation of common words, to him hanging out with that Spencer Nuzzi guy, to him looking like a sun burnt Wes Anderson, all of it I hate.


correct. we need the hate/keepers at the gate.

youtubers are a bummer. but random dudes that were posting how-to videos on changing vehicle lightbulbs (and what not) 11 years ago, well they seem like good neighbors.

ben d is mostly in the good side of the line, but i think a fair bit of that, for me, is his accent, good looks, and very enviable skating.

t2’s i want to try.
i think a lot of us got used to new trucks offering something wildly different, and these don’t do that. not as extreme as an ace/venture/lurpiv. i haven’t been skating indy’s because they can be very middle of the road (some could say the best blend of the criteria’s, others might posit that it is a lot of compromise). t2s sound more like indy’s, do it all well enough. less romantic.

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Re: The Thunder Thread
« Reply #3764 on: July 15, 2025, 07:54:15 AM »
After skating the t2 in the streets all weekend I will say that even after I switched to 54 conical full still a decent amount of wheelbite.
I enjoy the grind but still not Indy level.
My kingpin hasn’t been an issue for hanging up on smith/feeble, not sure why.
I really like manuals that these things, balanced and comfy, somehow the 14.5 wb I’ve been skating with them hasn’t been an issue as well.
The board I’ve been skating has been steeper than I usually prefer and it feels great, could be me, could be the trucks.

I would still prefer a 92 duro bushing if they made it which deluxe seems to skip and go right to 94.
Really like the turn, I skated Indy’s this weekend a bit and they felt similar to the thunders for sure.
I will continue to ride these as I do like them.

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Re: The Thunder Thread
« Reply #3765 on: July 15, 2025, 08:06:32 AM »
I'm totally trying T2 once they come out with a hollow version and fix the bushings with it.
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« Reply #3766 on: July 15, 2025, 08:18:24 AM »
I'm totally trying T2 once they come out with a hollow version and fix the bushings with it.

Doesn't sound like the bushings need 'fixing.' There's no way a truck can come with a bushing that suits everyone. These trucks were designed a loose, deep turn so a soft bushing makes sense. I hope they keep it, at least until I get some 151s. I'll be using risers.

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Re: The Thunder Thread
« Reply #3767 on: July 15, 2025, 08:40:14 AM »
Yea bushings are a preference I don’t see them switching them out, I’m still on mine I dig them a lot
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Re: The Thunder Thread
« Reply #3768 on: July 15, 2025, 09:51:18 AM »
i dont want that wild shit i just wanted something more like indy, i am skating really good on indy's lately. i cant really justify skating normal thunders with big wheels and i like having big wheels more than having a specifc truck.

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Re: The Thunder Thread
« Reply #3769 on: July 15, 2025, 11:37:33 AM »
I do really like the bushings and for the masses these are great, I have them slightly cranked more than i would like (1 3/4 threads showng) but they are responsive and not squished at all with no signs of them spitting at all.

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Re: The Thunder Thread
« Reply #3770 on: July 15, 2025, 12:21:07 PM »
I'm totally trying T2 once they come out with a hollow version and fix the bushings with it.

People need to understand that with Thunder, the skater fixes the bushings. In this regard the T2 is no evolutionary sidestep.

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Re: The Thunder Thread
« Reply #3771 on: July 15, 2025, 03:53:35 PM »
I wonder if its because the bushings are actually also just so freshly completed production and we are buying them like day 0, when probably almost any other time we have bought trucks in our life they have likely been sitting around for quite a long time, possibly even years? Would line up with why those brand new Purple Inverted Kingpin bushings took awhile to firm up still as well. They may just need a little longer to cure in general.

I've had my trucks since the first shops got them and the bushings didn't firm up more substantially than anything else I have recently had. They firmed up some over the course of an hour, but after that it was not substantial and they never dramatically changed. I've ridden them in 60-105F.

While old vs new urethane might rebound differently if it's very new or very old, bushings don't age that fast that we would experience such massive changes as @mbrimsob is hypothesizing. That would then mean that trucks that sit on a shop shelf for a few months would have super crusty feeling bushings and we all know from years and years of experience that things don't change that fast.

My guess is that since the pivot cups are also urethane you're seeing both those and the bushings breaking in.


I think it is more like years, eg these other older 2021 or so trucks, back when they used to still put the dates on the product stamp are significantly firmer than the newer inverted options, or the V8 blue bushings.

Any which way, it is not a big deal, but both of those feel like they work well for me now, but the standard bushings are a touch too firm for the most part, especially the older ones from earlier production runs, eg Thunder teams with yellow or dark green coloured bushings.


I also wonder if some places would go through product way faster too, so you guys there in USA who are already out of other things like 93 duro wheel, whereas we here in AU will most likely still have the current stock for a few years, going by stock levels, which is not a bad thing to me - means we have more options anyway.

Really too, this is all just thoughts, not facts, regarding bushing hardness, new vs old bushings and all that.  Breaking out some new old stock of the white boxes of Indy low bushings, which are definitely ten plus years old now, they feel very firm at first, go super soft for a while and then firm up again after a couple of sessions, but I also think these bushings are a different urethane and perform very differently to the DLX bushings.

Also I just noticed one of my bottom purple bushings from the inverted Thunders has cracked now too, on the back toe side, which is funny as I never really have busted my DLX bushings, but have heard most other people talking about how they break and come apart.  They still work fine, but it is just an interesting thing to note.


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Re: The Thunder Thread
« Reply #3772 on: July 15, 2025, 04:14:19 PM »
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I just saw this as well, someone already DIY inverted the T-II trucks in this post:





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Re: The Thunder Thread
« Reply #3773 on: July 15, 2025, 05:54:47 PM »
I can't stand Dowdy. From his lisp to his mispronunciation of common words, to him hanging out with that Spencer Nuzzi guy, to him looking like a sun burnt Wes Anderson, all of it I hate.

You are not alone (chuck stoner nuzzi in there as well); I feel like I lose brain cells watching either of them.

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Re: The Thunder Thread
« Reply #3774 on: July 15, 2025, 06:06:53 PM »
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I just saw this as well, someone already DIY inverted the T-II trucks in this post:







Lmao respect for doing it for science, but after having a look at his page I'm not seeing anything that warrants an inverted kingpin

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Re: The Thunder Thread
« Reply #3775 on: July 15, 2025, 09:14:12 PM »
Dowdy and Dad Board can’t articulate their thoughts and always throw in such useless and boring skating that nobody cares about. Ben D video quality unfortunately took a dive once he started hanging out with the influencers. His reviews are all over the place now. Anyways the new Thunders are great?

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Re: The Thunder Thread
« Reply #3776 on: July 16, 2025, 06:15:04 AM »
I am actually kind of a bit sick of review videos and the dad board one is the only one i watched through.
I am pretty dialed in on my setup. i can use any trucks. give me tensor mag lights fuck it. just buy a board with wb according to the trucks i want to use with it.  thats why skating a normal size is good. when you skate huge boards there are a lot fewer of them so I just use 8.5" where theres tons of WB options pretty mcuh at any given time in the current meta.

 I gotta really use it from start to finish to know for myself if I like it. I have put pretty stupid amount of hours on Lurpiv, Ace, Indy, and Thunder in the last few years and it is kinda hard to say which one I like best. I think I was just enjoying the Indy the most lately because it feels the most natural to have big wheels on. Lurpiv was fine it was just a bit insane.

No shipping notice still in Canada for the trucks lol not sure whats going on at the distributor Supra. must have all stayed up watching the baker video and got all treed up and forgot to send the trucks  ;D

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Re: The Thunder Thread
« Reply #3777 on: July 16, 2025, 07:35:24 AM »
I’ve popped out kingpins for every truck brand and they always sway, so I’m off doing that for now. The clearance is great but I already ride rails, I can deal with a kingpin nut.

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Re: The Thunder Thread
« Reply #3778 on: July 16, 2025, 08:00:30 AM »
Dowdy and Dad Board can’t articulate their thoughts and always throw in such useless and boring skating that nobody cares about. Ben D video quality unfortunately took a dive once he started hanging out with the influencers. His reviews are all over the place now. Anyways the new Thunders are great?

Got to hit that 8 minute minimum to get ads or a sponsor plug in.

I get not wanting to offend DLX when they've sent the product for free, but the newer YT reviewers lack the strong opinion on the product. 1-2 sessions doesn't give you sufficient evidence to talk about the truck, especially if you've ridden a completely different brand before.

Ben's older videos had a touch of that - "if you've rode XYZ brand of trucks you're going to hate this", and that comes with having tried a lot of gear from A to D-tier brands to know what works or doesn't.
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Re: The Thunder Thread
« Reply #3779 on: July 16, 2025, 08:41:48 AM »
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Got to hit that 8 minute minimum to get ads or a sponsor plug in.

I get not wanting to offend DLX when they've sent the product for free, but the newer YT reviewers lack the strong opinion on the product. 1-2 sessions doesn't give you sufficient evidence to talk about the truck, especially if you've ridden a completely different brand before.

Ben's older videos had a touch of that - "if you've rode XYZ brand of trucks you're going to hate this", and that comes with having tried a lot of gear from A to D-tier brands to know what works or doesn't.

If you spend longer, the other guy gets to do the video first, and to say they're meh, and people move on.. just lost all those views.  :D

But seriously though they should send some to ETANG SKATES.