The Thunder Thread

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Maybe it has already been talked about in this thread but the rumor is T2s (And/or maybe regular Thunders) with licensed ACE IKP system coming next year...

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ive heard this, they supposedly codeveloped it together. also my inverted thunder hollow kingpins broke today.

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How long did you have them and is it getting colder there now?

The ones I had seen break here seemed to occur in the colder months when the people who had them kept having to loosen / tighten the kingpins with the temperatures affecting bushings, but I think that is not everything with them.  Seen a fair number of hollow kingpins break, but never seen a solid inverted kingpin break, which I guess is why they discontinued the hollow inverted kingpins and only have the solid ones now.

* At least DLX will replace them with solid kingpin versions or another set of trucks depending on where you are.

https://www.dlxsf.com/warranty/

forgot to answer this, it was a board i've only skated indoors at our local i help out at. 93s and inverteds on an 8.28, i think i skated them once outside in the fall but not really seen any temperature changes. waiting on dlx to email me back for the warranty.

[tzhangdox]

Does the T2s do anything better than ace? I’m on ace now content but not happy. I enjoyed Indy’s but no. Old thunders I liked but so twitchy but I felt flip tricks was nice and pinched better. I enjoyed venture but it’s an hassle finding the right board. I’m  really debating on T2s. But am I just buying what I have now  which is AF1 inverted

T2 pinch better than ace, have more kp clearance, feel a lil more stable imo.

Actually wait you have the ikp so scratch that second point

[FrAnKenFrEd]

As big fan of both Ace and Thunder and currently using bother AF1 and T2s my suspicion is T2 are also more durable both in terms of grind and bending/ breaking.

The hollow body hanger design has got to be stronger than the closed, rounded hanger design....?

In contrast to people above, I find Ace more predictable on center probably b/c they are slightly lower. I'm about to try my T2s without risers (my current wheels have worn down enough to get away with it) so that might change....

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Does the T2s do anything better than ace? I’m on ace now content but not happy. I enjoyed Indy’s but no. Old thunders I liked but so twitchy but I felt flip tricks was nice and pinched better. I enjoyed venture but it’s an hassle finding the right board. I’m  really debating on T2s. But am I just buying what I have now  which is AF1 inverted

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T2 pinch better than ace, have more kp clearance, feel a lil more stable imo.

Actually wait you have the ikp so scratch that second point

which ones pop better tho?
no. 1 truck criteria, for me. the pop. all about that. everything else i can get used too/don’t care about

[Sedition]

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Does the T2s do anything better than ace? I’m on ace now content but not happy. I enjoyed Indy’s but no. Old thunders I liked but so twitchy but I felt flip tricks was nice and pinched better. I enjoyed venture but it’s an hassle finding the right board. I’m  really debating on T2s. But am I just buying what I have now  which is AF1 inverted

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T2 pinch better than ace, have more kp clearance, feel a lil more stable imo.

Actually wait you have the ikp so scratch that second point

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which ones pop better tho?
no. 1 truck criteria, for me. the pop. all about that. everything else i can get used too/don’t care about

Pop is such a subjective concept. Does it mean a fast snap where tail hits quick? Then good pop is Ace or T-2 on a deck with a longer, flatter tail. Does good pop mean a good vertical angle before the snap? Then you are talking about Ventures, possibly with a small riser, on a board with a short, steep tail. There are no ways to objectively answer the question. It’s just a matter of finding the combo that feels right to you (and I’m not even factoring in wheel size here).

[Rick Trapasso]

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Does the T2s do anything better than ace? I’m on ace now content but not happy. I enjoyed Indy’s but no. Old thunders I liked but so twitchy but I felt flip tricks was nice and pinched better. I enjoyed venture but it’s an hassle finding the right board. I’m  really debating on T2s. But am I just buying what I have now  which is AF1 inverted

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T2 pinch better than ace, have more kp clearance, feel a lil more stable imo.

Actually wait you have the ikp so scratch that second point

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which ones pop better tho?
no. 1 truck criteria, for me. the pop. all about that. everything else i can get used too/don’t care about

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Pop is such a subjective concept. Does it mean a fast snap where tail hits quick? Then good pop is Ace or T-2 on a deck with a longer, flatter tail. Does good pop mean a good vertical angle before the snap? Then you are talking about Ventures, possibly with a small riser, on a board with a short, steep tail. There are no ways to objectively answer the question. It’s just a matter of finding the combo that feels right to you (and I’m not even factoring in wheel size here).

Yea, I feel like body type plays into it a lot as well.

However, generally speaking, I think the lower, wider wb T1 would be perceived by most to have "better" pop.

Totally subjective though of course. Lots of variables to consider here that would change how any one person feels about this.

[DarkPools]

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Does the T2s do anything better than ace? I’m on ace now content but not happy. I enjoyed Indy’s but no. Old thunders I liked but so twitchy but I felt flip tricks was nice and pinched better. I enjoyed venture but it’s an hassle finding the right board. I’m  really debating on T2s. But am I just buying what I have now  which is AF1 inverted

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T2 pinch better than ace, have more kp clearance, feel a lil more stable imo.

Actually wait you have the ikp so scratch that second point

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which ones pop better tho?
no. 1 truck criteria, for me. the pop. all about that. everything else i can get used too/don’t care about

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Pop is such a subjective concept. Does it mean a fast snap where tail hits quick? Then good pop is Ace or T-2 on a deck with a longer, flatter tail. Does good pop mean a good vertical angle before the snap? Then you are talking about Ventures, possibly with a small riser, on a board with a short, steep tail. There are no ways to objectively answer the question. It’s just a matter of finding the combo that feels right to you (and I’m not even factoring in wheel size here).

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Yea, I feel like body type plays into it a lot as well.

However, generally speaking, I think the lower, wider wb T1 would be perceived by most to have "better" pop.

Totally subjective though of course. Lots of variables to consider here that would change how any one person feels about this.

On the topic of pop, I feel like Thunders are lacking in height for tre flips/spin pop tricks, but then I see Jake Hayes squash that thought (in person recently at a skate park!) + in a school yard clip he just posted. It's probably a me thing lol

Indys give me a full pop/scoop to get height on tres, whereas Thunders (T1 btw) spin laterally real well but don't get height for me. Probably my technique since my form is perfect on Indys. My guess is a timing thing since T1 is lower than both forged/standard Indys I'm accustomed to.

Anyone else experience loss of pop when moving/trying Thunders after Ace/Indy because of the height/WB diff?

[so_teal]

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Does the T2s do anything better than ace? I’m on ace now content but not happy. I enjoyed Indy’s but no. Old thunders I liked but so twitchy but I felt flip tricks was nice and pinched better. I enjoyed venture but it’s an hassle finding the right board. I’m  really debating on T2s. But am I just buying what I have now  which is AF1 inverted

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T2 pinch better than ace, have more kp clearance, feel a lil more stable imo.

Actually wait you have the ikp so scratch that second point

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which ones pop better tho?
no. 1 truck criteria, for me. the pop. all about that. everything else i can get used too/don’t care about

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Pop is such a subjective concept. Does it mean a fast snap where tail hits quick? Then good pop is Ace or T-2 on a deck with a longer, flatter tail. Does good pop mean a good vertical angle before the snap? Then you are talking about Ventures, possibly with a small riser, on a board with a short, steep tail. There are no ways to objectively answer the question. It’s just a matter of finding the combo that feels right to you (and I’m not even factoring in wheel size here).

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Yea, I feel like body type plays into it a lot as well.

However, generally speaking, I think the lower, wider wb T1 would be perceived by most to have "better" pop.

Totally subjective though of course. Lots of variables to consider here that would change how any one person feels about this.

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On the topic of pop, I feel like Thunders are lacking in height for tre flips/spin pop tricks, but then I see Jake Hayes squash that thought (in person recently at a skate park!) + in a school yard clip he just posted. It's probably a me thing lol

Indys give me a full pop/scoop to get height on tres, whereas Thunders (T1 btw) spin laterally real well but don't get height for me. Probably my technique since my form is perfect on Indys. My guess is a timing thing since T1 is lower than both forged/standard Indys I'm accustomed to.

Anyone else experience loss of pop when moving/trying Thunders after Ace/Indy because of the height/WB diff?

Glad I am not the only person going through a Tre crisis after the change. It's definitely a height of the truck issue for me, it seems.


I rode Indy standards forever, a set of Ace 55 Classics, and now Thunder 151s (classic construction, no risers). 8.6-8.75" 14.5 WB  Deck range. 54mm wheels.

Back-foot placement now is definitely further back onto the tail, away from the "pocket".

I have a second setup with Slappy on it. The rest of the setup is identical to the Thunder setup.

No issue with Tres on the Slappy board.

[DarkPools]

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Does the T2s do anything better than ace? I’m on ace now content but not happy. I enjoyed Indy’s but no. Old thunders I liked but so twitchy but I felt flip tricks was nice and pinched better. I enjoyed venture but it’s an hassle finding the right board. I’m  really debating on T2s. But am I just buying what I have now  which is AF1 inverted

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T2 pinch better than ace, have more kp clearance, feel a lil more stable imo.

Actually wait you have the ikp so scratch that second point

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which ones pop better tho?
no. 1 truck criteria, for me. the pop. all about that. everything else i can get used too/don’t care about

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Pop is such a subjective concept. Does it mean a fast snap where tail hits quick? Then good pop is Ace or T-2 on a deck with a longer, flatter tail. Does good pop mean a good vertical angle before the snap? Then you are talking about Ventures, possibly with a small riser, on a board with a short, steep tail. There are no ways to objectively answer the question. It’s just a matter of finding the combo that feels right to you (and I’m not even factoring in wheel size here).

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Yea, I feel like body type plays into it a lot as well.

However, generally speaking, I think the lower, wider wb T1 would be perceived by most to have "better" pop.

Totally subjective though of course. Lots of variables to consider here that would change how any one person feels about this.

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On the topic of pop, I feel like Thunders are lacking in height for tre flips/spin pop tricks, but then I see Jake Hayes squash that thought (in person recently at a skate park!) + in a school yard clip he just posted. It's probably a me thing lol

Indys give me a full pop/scoop to get height on tres, whereas Thunders (T1 btw) spin laterally real well but don't get height for me. Probably my technique since my form is perfect on Indys. My guess is a timing thing since T1 is lower than both forged/standard Indys I'm accustomed to.

Anyone else experience loss of pop when moving/trying Thunders after Ace/Indy because of the height/WB diff?

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Glad I am not the only person going through a Tre crisis after the change. It's definitely a height of the truck issue for me, it seems.


I rode Indy standards forever, a set of Ace 55 Classics, and now Thunder 151s (classic construction, no risers). 8.6-8.75" 14.5 WB  Deck range. 54mm wheels.

Back-foot placement now is definitely further back onto the tail, away from the "pocket".

I have a second setup with Slappy on it. The rest of the setup is identical to the Thunder setup.

No issue with Tres on the Slappy board.

Good to know I wasn't alone either with the "tre crisis" as you put it hahah

I have 151s with risers on a 14.3 WB, whereas, I usually ride Indys on a 14.5 WB. Tried to even out the effective WB between setups so they'd feel similar overall. I'll have to try my foot further back on the Thunders like you did and see if that makes a difference. I couldn't get any pop on tres out of a bank like I could with my Indy setup. Ghosted each time lol

[Rick Trapasso]

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Does the T2s do anything better than ace? I’m on ace now content but not happy. I enjoyed Indy’s but no. Old thunders I liked but so twitchy but I felt flip tricks was nice and pinched better. I enjoyed venture but it’s an hassle finding the right board. I’m  really debating on T2s. But am I just buying what I have now  which is AF1 inverted

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T2 pinch better than ace, have more kp clearance, feel a lil more stable imo.

Actually wait you have the ikp so scratch that second point

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which ones pop better tho?
no. 1 truck criteria, for me. the pop. all about that. everything else i can get used too/don’t care about

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Pop is such a subjective concept. Does it mean a fast snap where tail hits quick? Then good pop is Ace or T-2 on a deck with a longer, flatter tail. Does good pop mean a good vertical angle before the snap? Then you are talking about Ventures, possibly with a small riser, on a board with a short, steep tail. There are no ways to objectively answer the question. It’s just a matter of finding the combo that feels right to you (and I’m not even factoring in wheel size here).

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Yea, I feel like body type plays into it a lot as well.

However, generally speaking, I think the lower, wider wb T1 would be perceived by most to have "better" pop.

Totally subjective though of course. Lots of variables to consider here that would change how any one person feels about this.

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On the topic of pop, I feel like Thunders are lacking in height for tre flips/spin pop tricks, but then I see Jake Hayes squash that thought (in person recently at a skate park!) + in a school yard clip he just posted. It's probably a me thing lol

Indys give me a full pop/scoop to get height on tres, whereas Thunders (T1 btw) spin laterally real well but don't get height for me. Probably my technique since my form is perfect on Indys. My guess is a timing thing since T1 is lower than both forged/standard Indys I'm accustomed to.

Anyone else experience loss of pop when moving/trying Thunders after Ace/Indy because of the height/WB diff?

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Glad I am not the only person going through a Tre crisis after the change. It's definitely a height of the truck issue for me, it seems.


I rode Indy standards forever, a set of Ace 55 Classics, and now Thunder 151s (classic construction, no risers). 8.6-8.75" 14.5 WB  Deck range. 54mm wheels.

Back-foot placement now is definitely further back onto the tail, away from the "pocket".

I have a second setup with Slappy on it. The rest of the setup is identical to the Thunder setup.

No issue with Tres on the Slappy board.

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Good to know I wasn't alone either with the "tre crisis" as you put it hahah

I have 151s with risers on a 14.3 WB, whereas, I usually ride Indys on a 14.5 WB. Tried to even out the effective WB between setups so they'd feel similar overall. I'll have to try my foot further back on the Thunders like you did and see if that makes a difference. I couldn't get any pop on tres out of a bank like I could with my Indy setup. Ghosted each time lol

I experienced difficulty with tre flips while riding thunders as well, but when they worked they REALLY worked.

Makes me feel like it's more of a technique issue at that point. I did some really good tre flips on thunders but they were no where near as consistent as on Indys.

I feel like some of the most consistent flat ground skaters ride thunders, it has has to be a technique thing imo.

[Jort250]

For OG Thunders, what length wheelbase do yall run? 14?

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Does the T2s do anything better than ace? I’m on ace now content but not happy. I enjoyed Indy’s but no. Old thunders I liked but so twitchy but I felt flip tricks was nice and pinched better. I enjoyed venture but it’s an hassle finding the right board. I’m  really debating on T2s. But am I just buying what I have now  which is AF1 inverted

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T2 pinch better than ace, have more kp clearance, feel a lil more stable imo.

Actually wait you have the ikp so scratch that second point

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which ones pop better tho?
no. 1 truck criteria, for me. the pop. all about that. everything else i can get used too/don’t care about

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Pop is such a subjective concept. Does it mean a fast snap where tail hits quick? Then good pop is Ace or T-2 on a deck with a longer, flatter tail. Does good pop mean a good vertical angle before the snap? Then you are talking about Ventures, possibly with a small riser, on a board with a short, steep tail. There are no ways to objectively answer the question. It’s just a matter of finding the combo that feels right to you (and I’m not even factoring in wheel size here).

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Yea, I feel like body type plays into it a lot as well.

However, generally speaking, I think the lower, wider wb T1 would be perceived by most to have "better" pop.

Totally subjective though of course. Lots of variables to consider here that would change how any one person feels about this.

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On the topic of pop, I feel like Thunders are lacking in height for tre flips/spin pop tricks, but then I see Jake Hayes squash that thought (in person recently at a skate park!) + in a school yard clip he just posted. It's probably a me thing lol

Indys give me a full pop/scoop to get height on tres, whereas Thunders (T1 btw) spin laterally real well but don't get height for me. Probably my technique since my form is perfect on Indys. My guess is a timing thing since T1 is lower than both forged/standard Indys I'm accustomed to.

Anyone else experience loss of pop when moving/trying Thunders after Ace/Indy because of the height/WB diff?

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Glad I am not the only person going through a Tre crisis after the change. It's definitely a height of the truck issue for me, it seems.


I rode Indy standards forever, a set of Ace 55 Classics, and now Thunder 151s (classic construction, no risers). 8.6-8.75" 14.5 WB  Deck range. 54mm wheels.

Back-foot placement now is definitely further back onto the tail, away from the "pocket".

I have a second setup with Slappy on it. The rest of the setup is identical to the Thunder setup.

No issue with Tres on the Slappy board.

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Good to know I wasn't alone either with the "tre crisis" as you put it hahah

I have 151s with risers on a 14.3 WB, whereas, I usually ride Indys on a 14.5 WB. Tried to even out the effective WB between setups so they'd feel similar overall. I'll have to try my foot further back on the Thunders like you did and see if that makes a difference. I couldn't get any pop on tres out of a bank like I could with my Indy setup. Ghosted each time lol

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I experienced difficulty with tre flips while riding thunders as well, but when they worked they REALLY worked.

Makes me feel like it's more of a technique issue at that point. I did some really good tre flips on thunders but they were no where near as consistent as on Indys.

I feel like some of the most consistent flat ground skaters ride thunders, it has has to be a technique thing imo.

also dealt with this. Love the leverage of indys but hate the pinch. Religiously skate thunders, but always felt that I need a taller truck. Tried ventures; really good pop, good pinch, truck would not turn holy shit lol. A good blend would be slappys. Specifically the lows. Good leverage, pinch is damn near identical to thunders, and good turn. I feel like I could get a little more dip when doing tres.

[Rick Trapasso]

I believe they’re actually around the same weight as a forged Indy hollow.

Anyone got accurate weight measurement on a 149 T2?

I would be curious to know where they land.

Also, is the wheelbase on them actually shorter than aces? Wild if so. Aces already pull your wb in so much, hard to believe these come in farther, but I think that's what folks are saying.

When/if I ever try another truck it would be slappy standards or these T2's, but if the wheelbase is really that short it pretty much rules out any chance I would ever try them.

[Tuktuk]

T2 149 = 368gr
Inde forged hollow 149 = 366gr

According to the balance.

Yes Rick the scale sorry 😅

I can't paste an image on the phone but it seems to have a shorter geometry than the inverted Af1 so like the Classic.

[Rick Trapasso]

T2 149 = 368gr

According to the balance.

Thanks for the reply. Gnar'd

What do you mean by the balance? Like a scale?

[Sandwich Marty]

Really curious which pros switched over to T2’s. Does anyone know? I’m an avid truck inspector and I don’t see them much, but I’m also not following thunders entire team so I may be missing some notable ones.

[Mbrimson88]

For OG Thunders, what length wheelbase do yall run? 14?

I think people have been on pretty much every board option with them over the years, even up to the orange eagle at 9 x 33 with 15 wb on the 161s and they skated fine on that, which I had set up on 2 mm risers and usual 54 mm or so wheels, much the same as smaller setups in the wheel size and shape department, as well as the height too.

Jimmy Wilkins is on 161s on a 15" wb on his 8.86 deck, as one example.

Kyle Walker rides regular Thunders on the 8.38 with 14.5 wb and seems well balanced and doesn't look like he has too wide of a stance, as a more rounded, or street based example.

I think when I was comparing different setups, the original Thunders tended to work best on 14.25 wb boards, when I had Venture on 14.1 wb, Indy on 14.38, Ace or similar (like T-IIs) on 14.5, etc, but that was just trying to get them to the approximate similar axle position, more so than running each for optimal performance.

One board I do have the original 149ers on is 14" on an 8.7ish egg shape and they work well there, but then so do almost every truck for what I have done on it.


It might be just down to what you know and what you are used to, more than anything else, because people who are used to Thunder can ride them on anything, maybe more so than other people who come from other brands and might struggle with the different height, different turn or the overall different feel of them.

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Does the T2s do anything better than ace? I’m on ace now content but not happy. I enjoyed Indy’s but no. Old thunders I liked but so twitchy but I felt flip tricks was nice and pinched better. I enjoyed venture but it’s an hassle finding the right board. I’m  really debating on T2s. But am I just buying what I have now  which is AF1 inverted

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T2 pinch better than ace, have more kp clearance, feel a lil more stable imo.

Actually wait you have the ikp so scratch that second point

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which ones pop better tho?
no. 1 truck criteria, for me. the pop. all about that. everything else i can get used too/don’t care about

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Pop is such a subjective concept. Does it mean a fast snap where tail hits quick? Then good pop is Ace or T-2 on a deck with a longer, flatter tail. Does good pop mean a good vertical angle before the snap? Then you are talking about Ventures, possibly with a small riser, on a board with a short, steep tail. There are no ways to objectively answer the question. It’s just a matter of finding the combo that feels right to you (and I’m not even factoring in wheel size here).

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Yea, I feel like body type plays into it a lot as well.

However, generally speaking, I think the lower, wider wb T1 would be perceived by most to have "better" pop.

Totally subjective though of course. Lots of variables to consider here that would change how any one person feels about this.

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On the topic of pop, I feel like Thunders are lacking in height for tre flips/spin pop tricks, but then I see Jake Hayes squash that thought (in person recently at a skate park!) + in a school yard clip he just posted. It's probably a me thing lol

Indys give me a full pop/scoop to get height on tres, whereas Thunders (T1 btw) spin laterally real well but don't get height for me. Probably my technique since my form is perfect on Indys. My guess is a timing thing since T1 is lower than both forged/standard Indys I'm accustomed to.

Anyone else experience loss of pop when moving/trying Thunders after Ace/Indy because of the height/WB diff?

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Glad I am not the only person going through a Tre crisis after the change. It's definitely a height of the truck issue for me, it seems.


I rode Indy standards forever, a set of Ace 55 Classics, and now Thunder 151s (classic construction, no risers). 8.6-8.75" 14.5 WB  Deck range. 54mm wheels.

Back-foot placement now is definitely further back onto the tail, away from the "pocket".

I have a second setup with Slappy on it. The rest of the setup is identical to the Thunder setup.

No issue with Tres on the Slappy board.

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Good to know I wasn't alone either with the "tre crisis" as you put it hahah

I have 151s with risers on a 14.3 WB, whereas, I usually ride Indys on a 14.5 WB. Tried to even out the effective WB between setups so they'd feel similar overall. I'll have to try my foot further back on the Thunders like you did and see if that makes a difference. I couldn't get any pop on tres out of a bank like I could with my Indy setup. Ghosted each time lol

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I experienced difficulty with tre flips while riding thunders as well, but when they worked they REALLY worked.

Makes me feel like it's more of a technique issue at that point. I did some really good tre flips on thunders but they were no where near as consistent as on Indys.

I feel like some of the most consistent flat ground skaters ride thunders, it has has to be a technique thing imo.

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also dealt with this. Love the leverage of indys but hate the pinch. Religiously skate thunders, but always felt that I need a taller truck. Tried ventures; really good pop, good pinch, truck would not turn holy shit lol. A good blend would be slappys. Specifically the lows. Good leverage, pinch is damn near identical to thunders, and good turn. I feel like I could get a little more dip when doing tres.

interesting talk in here, and i appreciate it. this type of stuff is why i lurk slap.

totally correct, those above, in that pop is very subjective.
i like reading what other people like.
for me, thunders are very consistent, good to go from day one, my better kickflips happen with thunders. i can usually just put them on whatever board and be good. i do have an easier time scooping treflips with indy’s, sometimes.
i wheelbite to fuck and back with thunders, and usually am skating a smaller wheel, 52 ish. which is kinda uncool.
thunders seemed more consistent for me, i landed the tricks i could do, but indy’s had the rare ….sometimes with indy’s i’d get lucky throwing out some hail mary bullshit, and that’s always fun.
probably ollie higher with indys. so the pop was better in that regard.

[Mbrimson88]

Really curious which pros switched over to T2’s. Does anyone know? I’m an avid truck inspector and I don’t see them much, but I’m also not following thunders entire team so I may be missing some notable ones.

I guess Frank Gerwer is known for the T-II truck given he has a pro T-II now, but to add more to the list, DLX had a few videos with team riders on them, whether or not they stayed on them, who knows, but among others, this video from a few months back had:

Nick Michel
Nora Vasconsellos
Joseph Campos
Chris Athans
Kasci Woolf
Gage Boyle
Jake Anderson

Then there have been a few other riders on them on their Instagram videos or ads, but I don't know half of those other names there.

I guess it is one of those things, where you have to get the right angle to see the hanger shape, or even the bushing colour or something else as clips or whatever, because even just trying to get a good look at some setups, I can't see much.

At least their ads and promos for the T-II trucks is pretty good, so a number of people have been on them, some saying they recommend them and will be staying on them, but I don't pay that much attention to every team rider or post either, so I am sure others would have more info.


On another note, the first set of T-II 151s I put on a board seem to have the bushings broken in nicely now, as I had to back the nut off half a turn today, but they sure are feeling easy to ride now, way better than when I first set them up, so once again I would recommend people take a few sessions to really see how they go, before giving up on them, or changing things out.

[juniormint]

Any idea if a 161 T2 is on the horizon?

[MetalAnkleMan]

Really curious which pros switched over to T2’s. Does anyone know? I’m an avid truck inspector and I don’t see them much, but I’m also not following thunders entire team so I may be missing some notable ones.

Huge Tom K fan and saw Thunder did a post with him about the T-2 but just recently in his newest IG post he is skating T-1. I also saw a few weeks back it looked like he was sitting up a new board and he had T-1 back on.

[Sandwich Marty]

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Really curious which pros switched over to T2’s. Does anyone know? I’m an avid truck inspector and I don’t see them much, but I’m also not following thunders entire team so I may be missing some notable ones.

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Huge Tom K fan and saw Thunder did a post with him about the T-2 but just recently in his newest IG post he is skating T-1. I also saw a few weeks back it looked like he was sitting up a new board and he had T-1 back on.

Tom K’s latest clip is what made me ask lol

I was stoked on him hyping up the T2’s but I did notice in the ad that he had them cranked down like 3 threads, so probably they just asked him to ride them for an afternoon and he switched back.

I would think him and Franky would have been perfect on the T2’s but maybe that’s just me making a little fantasy draft for pro skaters who I think I understand better than I do.

[rawbertson.]

He probably skates really really fast though so maybe he needs to crank down a little more if they were brand new

[MetalAnkleMan]

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Really curious which pros switched over to T2’s. Does anyone know? I’m an avid truck inspector and I don’t see them much, but I’m also not following thunders entire team so I may be missing some notable ones.

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Huge Tom K fan and saw Thunder did a post with him about the T-2 but just recently in his newest IG post he is skating T-1. I also saw a few weeks back it looked like he was sitting up a new board and he had T-1 back on.

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Tom K’s latest clip is what made me ask lol

I was stoked on him hyping up the T2’s but I did notice in the ad that he had them cranked down like 3 threads, so probably they just asked him to ride them for an afternoon and he switched back.

I would think him and Franky would have been perfect on the T2’s but maybe that’s just me making a little fantasy draft for pro skaters who I think I understand better than I do.

Haha I've been IG inspecting every clip of Franky since the T-2 drop. I thought for sure he would switch and love them....but I was wrong. Even since the T-2's have dropped he has changed his trucks, he was skating his black pro color way and now he is on the standard cast version of the T-1. Yes I know this is psychotic talk but these 2 are my favorite skaters haha   

[rawbertson.]

well, you know what they say... If it ain't broke...
I really like how thunder t1 baseplate drags on tailslides you can hear it in clips it sounds really good. it sounds like you are doing a grind. It is probably the most optimal truck for doing crook flips (not that I will ever land that trick of any sort)

[Rick Trapasso]

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Really curious which pros switched over to T2’s. Does anyone know? I’m an avid truck inspector and I don’t see them much, but I’m also not following thunders entire team so I may be missing some notable ones.

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Huge Tom K fan and saw Thunder did a post with him about the T-2 but just recently in his newest IG post he is skating T-1. I also saw a few weeks back it looked like he was sitting up a new board and he had T-1 back on.

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Tom K’s latest clip is what made me ask lol

I was stoked on him hyping up the T2’s but I did notice in the ad that he had them cranked down like 3 threads, so probably they just asked him to ride them for an afternoon and he switched back.

I would think him and Franky would have been perfect on the T2’s but maybe that’s just me making a little fantasy draft for pro skaters who I think I understand better than I do.

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Haha I've been IG inspecting every clip of Franky since the T-2 drop. I thought for sure he would switch and love them....but I was wrong. Even since the T-2's have dropped he has changed his trucks, he was skating his black pro color way and now he is on the standard cast version of the T-1. Yes I know this is psychotic talk but these 2 are my favorite skaters haha

The T1s are such a unique truck, most people I know that ride them absolutely swear by them and can't/won't skate anything else. Low, light, wide wb, wheel contact on slides, conical bushings/geo giving you a really quick/divey turn, the unmatched pinch.

Personally, because of this it's not that surprising to me that most pros have not made the swap. If you're used to them and prefer them, anything else is probably gonna feel horrible.

[Beardedpirate]

Did someone on here before say that Thunders will be getting the locking inverted kingpin system from the Ace trucks?

I want to go inverted but don't want to be worrying about them looming in thier own.

[pops]

I think I'm going with 161 T1s instead of T2s. Should go nicely with the wider boards (9.5-10) and wide wheels I like. I havent ridden Thunders in like 15yrs and iirc the stock bushings tend to crack at some point. Any recommendations what replacement bushings are good?

[Mbrimson88]

I think I'm going with 161 T1s instead of T2s. Should go nicely with the wider boards (9.5-10) and wide wheels I like. I havent ridden Thunders in like 15yrs and iirc the stock bushings tend to crack at some point. Any recommendations what replacement bushings are good?

I feel like Thunder bushings can hold up well enough, when they are broken in nicely, but they also sell every option in aftermarket bushings too, so with the Thunder trucks I have, these are pretty good, if or when I need to swap things out - stock 90, or 94, 97 or 100 in the bushing tube, or the 90, 95 or 100 in the rebuild kits too.  I got some of each to try and see how they go, as well as for people to set up in their own boards at the shop / skatepark.

Besides that, Indy conical bushings work well on boards I have put them on, even if they are said to be different heights, as do the Doh Dohs cones, as some people have said on here.  Some even like Bones bushings, although I tend to think they don't hold up as well as others, especially in the softer options.

It also depends if you want to keep the conical shape, or run Cylinders, which do work, but might go against "the look" of Thunder trucks, which matters more to people than I might have thought.

At least those are the easy to get options I have or know of, especially from testing a lot of Thunder products more recently.

[Axtonzero]

Hello,

( I apologize if my writing is poor; I am trying my best )

I am a 40-year-old French skateboarder. I have been reading this forum for a very long time, as it contains a lot of information that is not available in France. I love the technical topics about equipment. In France, no one asks questions about equipment, and you are considered crazy if you do. So I am here to read and learn things. I also watch Ben Degros' videos.
The problem is that I don't speak English very well, and it's difficult to read all the posts using the translation.
Right now, I'm on this Thunder post because I've been using Thunders for a year and would like some advice on choosing my next board.
I currently have an 8-inch Real board (the classic oval design). Thunder Team 147 trucks. I'm not comfortable with this setup. The problem is that the board doesn't have a 14.25 wheelbase as I thought, it's 14.33. I feel like I'm leaning too far back, as if my body is sliding backwards. Another problem is the 37-degree angle (measured between the rear bolts). It's much too vertical for me. I can't even brake by rubbing the tail on the ground because it's so vertical. It's also difficult to find balance for manuals. Nothing works on this setup.

With Ben Degros' video, I understood that I need to get a board that has flat toes before the tail starts to rise. That's okay.
i'm also going to get a board with a 14.25 wheelbase to reduce the one I have at the moment, but I don't understand whether I should get a board with a small tail or a large tail. What shape/size of tail works well with Thunder?
Looking at flat fingers is one thing, but if I don't get the right tail size, I might end up in the same situation with a 37-degree angle.

I'm waiting for your advice, maybe a brand that works well with Thunder. Only 8 or 8.125.
If you want to check out the European website Skatedeluxe to help me, they list all the wheelbases, all the tail and nose sizes, everything is listed.