Thoughts on Gifted Hater?

[Punished Skateboards]

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Greco and Tyshawn's videos both seemed to do really well on Thrasher.

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And Ariana Grande’s videos do really well on Jimmy Fallon’s YouTube channel. Thrasher and Fallon aren’t taste makers though.

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yeah ok Thrasher mag has zero effect on the dialogue and direction of skateboarding culture...

Yeah their Lacoste collab is the shit right

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Greco and Tyshawn's videos both seemed to do really well on Thrasher.

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And Ariana Grande’s videos do really well on Jimmy Fallon’s YouTube channel. Thrasher and Fallon aren’t taste makers though.

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yeah ok Thrasher mag has zero effect on the dialogue and direction of skateboarding culture...

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Yeah their Lacoste collab is the shit right

It's not something I'm psyched on but it's less embarrassing to me than hellride.

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the thing with thrasher is they are uploading daily so of course there’s gonna be videos that don’t do as hot as others, for them it comes down to what brand/skater it is. they don’t do much commentary videos which is what GH does.

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yeah they get way more views overall, not even close

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Take the first eight GH videos from above and the first eight Thrasher videos from above and GH has like 200k more views

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but his 8 videos are over a month span and thrasher’s are only 8 days

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Yeah and Thrasher has 45x the subs that GH has

but that brings me back to what both channels post.

thrasher only posts skate content. skate clips, skate parts, skate vids, that’s it. their only commentary piece is hateline. in addition, people who sub to thrasher are more inclined to click on something pending brand/skater - for example see how tyshawn’s video part faired over the other vids that were posted that week.

now look at what gifted hater posts, commentary vids current and trending topics in skateboarding, because of this more people in skating will watch his videos because they know they are getting. he also does a live stream where he connects with his viewers and has a patreon. he’s making a killing on the IC videos because it’s the most popular topic right now, so more people will click that vs. the latest part by ulph anderson.

although they are both skate related - they both present different types of content. gifted will get more views because he is really the “go-to” skate commentary guy, funny and relatable and connects to his viewers. thrasher posts daily skate content that is consumed based on skater/brand and the magazine is made up of different people.

[IpathCats]

When your competition is braille, revive, John hill, George poulos, black ninja, rad rat, Christian Flores, the 9 club, Ben degros, and Dan Corrigan, and you don't make the same content as Ben degros, you basically have no competition.

[Punished Skateboards]

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the thing with thrasher is they are uploading daily so of course there’s gonna be videos that don’t do as hot as others, for them it comes down to what brand/skater it is. they don’t do much commentary videos which is what GH does.

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yeah they get way more views overall, not even close

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Take the first eight GH videos from above and the first eight Thrasher videos from above and GH has like 200k more views

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but his 8 videos are over a month span and thrasher’s are only 8 days

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Yeah and Thrasher has 45x the subs that GH has

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but that brings me back to what both channels post.

thrasher only posts skate content. skate clips, skate parts, skate vids, that’s it. their only commentary piece is hateline. in addition, people who sub to thrasher are more inclined to click on something pending brand/skater - for example see how tyshawn’s video part faired over the other vids that were posted that week.

now look at what gifted hater posts, commentary vids current and trending topics in skateboarding, because of this more people in skating will watch his videos because they know they are getting. he also does a live stream where he connects with his viewers and has a patreon. he’s making a killing on the IC videos because it’s the most popular topic right now, so more people will click that vs. the latest part by ulph anderson.

although they are both skate related - they both present different types of content. gifted will get more views because he is really the “go-to” skate commentary guy, funny and relatable and connects to his viewers. thrasher posts daily skate content that is consumed based on skater/brand and the magazine is made up of different people.

That’s like saying more people will tune in to watch Stephen A Smith on First Take than watch Sunday Night Football on NBC, which just isn’t true.

If people like skating, they should be more inclined to watch skating, not skate commentary. The problem is that Thrasher, in general, is putting out stuff people don’t care about, so no one watches. GH’s SOTY outlook video from three months ago will probably bypass the views of Thrasher’s actual SOTY video from six months ago. And Thrasher has literally millions of subscribers. They’re no longer influencers. But if they’re gonna host the Tyshawn vid well then of course people will flock.

[Southernmost]

What’s his slap username?

Looks like it might be Punished Skateboards.

[maxpalmerfan]

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the thing with thrasher is they are uploading daily so of course there’s gonna be videos that don’t do as hot as others, for them it comes down to what brand/skater it is. they don’t do much commentary videos which is what GH does.

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yeah they get way more views overall, not even close

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Take the first eight GH videos from above and the first eight Thrasher videos from above and GH has like 200k more views

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but his 8 videos are over a month span and thrasher’s are only 8 days

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Yeah and Thrasher has 45x the subs that GH has

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but that brings me back to what both channels post.

thrasher only posts skate content. skate clips, skate parts, skate vids, that’s it. their only commentary piece is hateline. in addition, people who sub to thrasher are more inclined to click on something pending brand/skater - for example see how tyshawn’s video part faired over the other vids that were posted that week.

now look at what gifted hater posts, commentary vids current and trending topics in skateboarding, because of this more people in skating will watch his videos because they know they are getting. he also does a live stream where he connects with his viewers and has a patreon. he’s making a killing on the IC videos because it’s the most popular topic right now, so more people will click that vs. the latest part by ulph anderson.

although they are both skate related - they both present different types of content. gifted will get more views because he is really the “go-to” skate commentary guy, funny and relatable and connects to his viewers. thrasher posts daily skate content that is consumed based on skater/brand and the magazine is made up of different people.

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That’s like saying more people will tune in to watch Stephen A Smith on First Take than watch Sunday Night Football on NBC, which just isn’t true.

If people like skating, they should be more inclined to watch skating, not skate commentary. The problem is that Thrasher, in general, is putting out stuff people don’t care about, so no one watches. GH’s SOTY outlook video from three months ago will probably bypass the views of Thrasher’s actual SOTY video from six months ago. And Thrasher has literally millions of subscribers. They’re no longer influencers. But if they’re gonna host the Tyshawn vid well then of course people will flock.

idk man the stephen a smith thing doesnt make much sense. not everyone that watches football plays football. obviously most of the people watching a skate video most likely skate as well. 90% of the time i dont watch videos on thrasher or the nine club that arent skaters/brands i like and pay attention to. i'd rather watch gifted make stupid jokes/decent arguments about current topics than the new dialtone video

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the thing with thrasher is they are uploading daily so of course there’s gonna be videos that don’t do as hot as others, for them it comes down to what brand/skater it is. they don’t do much commentary videos which is what GH does.

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yeah they get way more views overall, not even close

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Take the first eight GH videos from above and the first eight Thrasher videos from above and GH has like 200k more views

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but his 8 videos are over a month span and thrasher’s are only 8 days

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Yeah and Thrasher has 45x the subs that GH has

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but that brings me back to what both channels post.

thrasher only posts skate content. skate clips, skate parts, skate vids, that’s it. their only commentary piece is hateline. in addition, people who sub to thrasher are more inclined to click on something pending brand/skater - for example see how tyshawn’s video part faired over the other vids that were posted that week.

now look at what gifted hater posts, commentary vids current and trending topics in skateboarding, because of this more people in skating will watch his videos because they know they are getting. he also does a live stream where he connects with his viewers and has a patreon. he’s making a killing on the IC videos because it’s the most popular topic right now, so more people will click that vs. the latest part by ulph anderson.

although they are both skate related - they both present different types of content. gifted will get more views because he is really the “go-to” skate commentary guy, funny and relatable and connects to his viewers. thrasher posts daily skate content that is consumed based on skater/brand and the magazine is made up of different people.

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That’s like saying more people will tune in to watch Stephen A Smith on First Take than watch Sunday Night Football on NBC, which just isn’t true.

If people like skating, they should be more inclined to watch skating, not skate commentary. The problem is that Thrasher, in general, is putting out stuff people don’t care about, so no one watches. GH’s SOTY outlook video from three months ago will probably bypass the views of Thrasher’s actual SOTY video from six months ago. And Thrasher has literally millions of subscribers. They’re no longer influencers. But if they’re gonna host the Tyshawn vid well then of course people will flock.

circling to your point on your first post

and Braille, and John Hill, and George Poulous, etc etc basically any skate-related YouTube channel

Yet some of y'all are still nonplussed how he has so much influence. What's pathetic is he has a fraction of the subs of these other channels and consistently crushes them in views and it's not even close, meaning a lot of people are fans but too proud to subscribe. And he's passing them in days. He makes stuff people want to watch and I can't say the same for the others.

I never even heard of this guy blah blah blah I never even seen his videos blah blah blah

And it's not just his TMZ gossip videos either so don't try to pull that. A skatepark review with over 100k views meanwhile the Nine Club has interviews with legit legends that have been up for months that will never crack that.

remember, gifted hater is just joa. he interacts with his subscribers, his patrons, (sometimes) the people on his discord and more importantly, his live stream. he shit talks what a lot of people agree with. he has influence with his takes and because how he is with his viewers.

thrasher is a company run by different individuals, the only interaction really has with its viewers is someone who is hired (which i don’t think it’s lui) commenting positivity on YT and IG and that’s really it. they have influence because they are the hub of skate culture and most likely stay that way. but not so much to the affect joa has.

also do remember a majority of slap users are not teenagers and young adults who do make up a lot of his viewership.

[FatGuy92]

One thing nobody has mentioned is channel age, which plays a big role in viewership. Thrasher has been around for like 16 years while GH started his channel in 2021. Most of Thrasher's subs could be from abandoned accounts or folks that stopped skating but never unsubbed.

[Punished Skateboards]

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the thing with thrasher is they are uploading daily so of course there’s gonna be videos that don’t do as hot as others, for them it comes down to what brand/skater it is. they don’t do much commentary videos which is what GH does.

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yeah they get way more views overall, not even close

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Take the first eight GH videos from above and the first eight Thrasher videos from above and GH has like 200k more views

[close]

but his 8 videos are over a month span and thrasher’s are only 8 days

[close]

Yeah and Thrasher has 45x the subs that GH has

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but that brings me back to what both channels post.

thrasher only posts skate content. skate clips, skate parts, skate vids, that’s it. their only commentary piece is hateline. in addition, people who sub to thrasher are more inclined to click on something pending brand/skater - for example see how tyshawn’s video part faired over the other vids that were posted that week.

now look at what gifted hater posts, commentary vids current and trending topics in skateboarding, because of this more people in skating will watch his videos because they know they are getting. he also does a live stream where he connects with his viewers and has a patreon. he’s making a killing on the IC videos because it’s the most popular topic right now, so more people will click that vs. the latest part by ulph anderson.

although they are both skate related - they both present different types of content. gifted will get more views because he is really the “go-to” skate commentary guy, funny and relatable and connects to his viewers. thrasher posts daily skate content that is consumed based on skater/brand and the magazine is made up of different people.

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That’s like saying more people will tune in to watch Stephen A Smith on First Take than watch Sunday Night Football on NBC, which just isn’t true.

If people like skating, they should be more inclined to watch skating, not skate commentary. The problem is that Thrasher, in general, is putting out stuff people don’t care about, so no one watches. GH’s SOTY outlook video from three months ago will probably bypass the views of Thrasher’s actual SOTY video from six months ago. And Thrasher has literally millions of subscribers. They’re no longer influencers. But if they’re gonna host the Tyshawn vid well then of course people will flock.

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idk man the stephen a smith thing doesnt make much sense. not everyone that watches football plays football. obviously most of the people watching a skate video most likely skate as well. 90% of the time i dont watch videos on thrasher or the nine club that arent skaters/brands i like and pay attention to. i'd rather watch gifted make stupid jokes/decent arguments about current topics than the new dialtone video

And I’m saying that’s because you know what you’ll be watching will suck because you’ve come to not expect much from Thrasher or the Nine Club. If you respected them as taste makers you’d say I don’t know what this is but I’ll bet it’s gonna be good. But in reality you know they don’t have their finger on the pulse of what is interesting in skateboarding. But you know GH is interesting and many people are figuring that out that’s what the numbers indicate whether people want to admit it or not.

[Punished Skateboards]

One thing nobody has mentioned is channel age, which plays a big role in viewership. Thrasher has been around for like 16 years while GH started his channel in 2021. Most of Thrasher's subs could be from abandoned accounts or folks that stopped skating but never unsubbed.

That’s a good point, but 65.9K subs vs 2.99 million subs is just so ridiculous. It’s like whatever follows the 11pm news on CBS will by default have more views than some cable network during the same time slot because people just fell asleep with their TV on and more people have CBS than cable. But Thrasher can’t even get zombie views they need only 2% of their subs to click and watch a video for one second to compete with GH and they can’t even get that.

[Rubbrick]

GH is reading this on his stream right now

[rukes]

He makes it look easy

[Kanteen Russell]

Nine Club blew it by bringing Kris markobvicj on. That thumbnail is nightmare fuel. Kris makes me sick when I look at him and he still owes me money for a Hollywood board I bought twenty years ago that snapped when tried board sliding the CCS flatbar my friend had. I think he is the most promiscuous sponsor hopper of all day. And somehow his story is still banal and worthless. Nine Club needs something new... They might learn a thing or two from gifted hater.

[Punished Skateboards]

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the thing with thrasher is they are uploading daily so of course there’s gonna be videos that don’t do as hot as others, for them it comes down to what brand/skater it is. they don’t do much commentary videos which is what GH does.

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yeah they get way more views overall, not even close

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Take the first eight GH videos from above and the first eight Thrasher videos from above and GH has like 200k more views

[close]

but his 8 videos are over a month span and thrasher’s are only 8 days

[close]

Yeah and Thrasher has 45x the subs that GH has

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but that brings me back to what both channels post.

thrasher only posts skate content. skate clips, skate parts, skate vids, that’s it. their only commentary piece is hateline. in addition, people who sub to thrasher are more inclined to click on something pending brand/skater - for example see how tyshawn’s video part faired over the other vids that were posted that week.

now look at what gifted hater posts, commentary vids current and trending topics in skateboarding, because of this more people in skating will watch his videos because they know they are getting. he also does a live stream where he connects with his viewers and has a patreon. he’s making a killing on the IC videos because it’s the most popular topic right now, so more people will click that vs. the latest part by ulph anderson.

although they are both skate related - they both present different types of content. gifted will get more views because he is really the “go-to” skate commentary guy, funny and relatable and connects to his viewers. thrasher posts daily skate content that is consumed based on skater/brand and the magazine is made up of different people.

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That’s like saying more people will tune in to watch Stephen A Smith on First Take than watch Sunday Night Football on NBC, which just isn’t true.

If people like skating, they should be more inclined to watch skating, not skate commentary. The problem is that Thrasher, in general, is putting out stuff people don’t care about, so no one watches. GH’s SOTY outlook video from three months ago will probably bypass the views of Thrasher’s actual SOTY video from six months ago. And Thrasher has literally millions of subscribers. They’re no longer influencers. But if they’re gonna host the Tyshawn vid well then of course people will flock.

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circling to your point on your first post

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and Braille, and John Hill, and George Poulous, etc etc basically any skate-related YouTube channel

Yet some of y'all are still nonplussed how he has so much influence. What's pathetic is he has a fraction of the subs of these other channels and consistently crushes them in views and it's not even close, meaning a lot of people are fans but too proud to subscribe. And he's passing them in days. He makes stuff people want to watch and I can't say the same for the others.

I never even heard of this guy blah blah blah I never even seen his videos blah blah blah

And it's not just his TMZ gossip videos either so don't try to pull that. A skatepark review with over 100k views meanwhile the Nine Club has interviews with legit legends that have been up for months that will never crack that.

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remember, gifted hater is just joa. he interacts with his subscribers, his patrons, (sometimes) the people on his discord and more importantly, his live stream. he shit talks what a lot of people agree with. he has influence with his takes and because how he is with his viewers.

thrasher is a company run by different individuals, the only interaction really has with its viewers is someone who is hired (which i don’t think it’s lui) commenting positivity on YT and IG and that’s really it. they have influence because they are the hub of skate culture and most likely stay that way. but not so much to the affect joa has.

also do remember a majority of slap users are not teenagers and young adults who do make up a lot of his viewership.

I get that Joa is a charismatic guy and people enjoy that, but it’s just odd (and in my opinion not a great look for Thrasher) when the commentary is more popular than the source material. It’s my Stephen A Smith vs an actual NFL game comparison. Or At the Movies with Siskel and Ebert vs an actual movie. Or a Jon Caramanica article vs an actual album. In all cases more people are by de facto going to have watched the game, seen the movie, or listened to the album than have engaged with the commentary. And Thrasher, as the main source of skateboarding content, just isn’t delivering what the people want, which is why we see more people hovering towards GH for their skate content.

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the thing with thrasher is they are uploading daily so of course there’s gonna be videos that don’t do as hot as others, for them it comes down to what brand/skater it is. they don’t do much commentary videos which is what GH does.

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yeah they get way more views overall, not even close

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Take the first eight GH videos from above and the first eight Thrasher videos from above and GH has like 200k more views

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but his 8 videos are over a month span and thrasher’s are only 8 days

[close]

Yeah and Thrasher has 45x the subs that GH has

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but that brings me back to what both channels post.

thrasher only posts skate content. skate clips, skate parts, skate vids, that’s it. their only commentary piece is hateline. in addition, people who sub to thrasher are more inclined to click on something pending brand/skater - for example see how tyshawn’s video part faired over the other vids that were posted that week.

now look at what gifted hater posts, commentary vids current and trending topics in skateboarding, because of this more people in skating will watch his videos because they know they are getting. he also does a live stream where he connects with his viewers and has a patreon. he’s making a killing on the IC videos because it’s the most popular topic right now, so more people will click that vs. the latest part by ulph anderson.

although they are both skate related - they both present different types of content. gifted will get more views because he is really the “go-to” skate commentary guy, funny and relatable and connects to his viewers. thrasher posts daily skate content that is consumed based on skater/brand and the magazine is made up of different people.

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That’s like saying more people will tune in to watch Stephen A Smith on First Take than watch Sunday Night Football on NBC, which just isn’t true.

If people like skating, they should be more inclined to watch skating, not skate commentary. The problem is that Thrasher, in general, is putting out stuff people don’t care about, so no one watches. GH’s SOTY outlook video from three months ago will probably bypass the views of Thrasher’s actual SOTY video from six months ago. And Thrasher has literally millions of subscribers. They’re no longer influencers. But if they’re gonna host the Tyshawn vid well then of course people will flock.

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circling to your point on your first post

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and Braille, and John Hill, and George Poulous, etc etc basically any skate-related YouTube channel

Yet some of y'all are still nonplussed how he has so much influence. What's pathetic is he has a fraction of the subs of these other channels and consistently crushes them in views and it's not even close, meaning a lot of people are fans but too proud to subscribe. And he's passing them in days. He makes stuff people want to watch and I can't say the same for the others.

I never even heard of this guy blah blah blah I never even seen his videos blah blah blah

And it's not just his TMZ gossip videos either so don't try to pull that. A skatepark review with over 100k views meanwhile the Nine Club has interviews with legit legends that have been up for months that will never crack that.

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remember, gifted hater is just joa. he interacts with his subscribers, his patrons, (sometimes) the people on his discord and more importantly, his live stream. he shit talks what a lot of people agree with. he has influence with his takes and because how he is with his viewers.

thrasher is a company run by different individuals, the only interaction really has with its viewers is someone who is hired (which i don’t think it’s lui) commenting positivity on YT and IG and that’s really it. they have influence because they are the hub of skate culture and most likely stay that way. but not so much to the affect joa has.

also do remember a majority of slap users are not teenagers and young adults who do make up a lot of his viewership.

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I get that Joa is a charismatic guy and people enjoy that, but it’s just odd (and in my opinion not a great look for Thrasher) when the commentary is more popular than the source material. It’s my Stephen A Smith vs an actual NFL game comparison. Or At the Movies with Siskel and Ebert vs an actual movie. Or a Jon Caramanica article vs an actual album. In all cases more people are by de facto going to have watched the game, seen the movie, or listened to the album than have engaged with the commentary. And Thrasher, as the main source of skateboarding content, just isn’t delivering what the people want, which is why we see more people hovering towards GH for their skate content.

because he’s relatable in a way such as talking smack with your friends on the latest thing(s) in skateboarding. he’s not traditional, he represents most of us who consume skating and skate culture.

[versacekid420]

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That last vid is GH entering the big leagues.

Highlighting the symbiotic relationships propping up the industry — and calling out what happens when an outsider tries to prey on it — is what, after 40 fucking years, you'd think Thrasher would be taking on and guarding. It's not hyperbole to say GH could take on the mantle as a new Phelps-figure for the modern era. He's articulate, insightful and he fucking rips.

He's beginning to fill an editorial void that the skate industry/media has blissfully avoided. I have no qualms with him keeping folks in check.

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hey buddy, save some dick for the rest of us to ride

nah seriously bro took it out and put it back in

[radcunt]

People enjoy non sycophantic content

[JugeL]

I really hope it's not the last we see of the kid who did the bogus hard flip for a buck. I really want to see more footage of him.

Kid has a good look.  Has pretty good style. Hard flips are very hard for me.

I like the kit though.
Everything but the big chain.
Some of my homies like it but nah not for me.

I like grills. I've always wanted one. It'll never happen now obviously. I have a chain in mind I wanted to design but again I'd never be able to afford or justify a custom chain purchase.

But yeah if I was that kid in this environment I'd double down on true punk frickin rock style. Unless I was interested in like mumble rapping or whatever. Then I'd try to get the ponk look right and take it with me.

I can't watch those "artist" do it wrong anymore. I'll never make them anything for under 2500.

Lil Wayne I'd definitely give a free jacket. I don't consider him mumble rapper tho I believe that cash money kinda came up with the styles roots.

Wayne would look so sick in one of my pieces. Maybe he'd be down to trade a guitar. I seen he plays the Joan Jett Gibson. One in my favorite guitars.

I started this post last night so it probably doesn't make sense but I want to voice my opinion on that one kid.

I hope they stop doing tricks for hash instead of actual pay or art

What the fuck

[Mean salto]

Idk. I feel like Mikey is someone I would not work with on any level.
I could be wrong. Maybe he's an honest caring individual.
It doesn't seem that way. Seems like a narcissist to me.

Maybe that's actually the health way to be? Idk. It's not in me. I'm almost always dead wrong.

Joa seems like a normal 16 year old to me.

That last sentence is a problem because he is a decade older than that.

[Banned from the room]

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I really hope it's not the last we see of the kid who did the bogus hard flip for a buck. I really want to see more footage of him.

Kid has a good look.  Has pretty good style. Hard flips are very hard for me.

I like the kit though.
Everything but the big chain.
Some of my homies like it but nah not for me.

I like grills. I've always wanted one. It'll never happen now obviously. I have a chain in mind I wanted to design but again I'd never be able to afford or justify a custom chain purchase.

But yeah if I was that kid in this environment I'd double down on true punk frickin rock style. Unless I was interested in like mumble rapping or whatever. Then I'd try to get the ponk look right and take it with me.

I can't watch those "artist" do it wrong anymore. I'll never make them anything for under 2500.

Lil Wayne I'd definitely give a free jacket. I don't consider him mumble rapper tho I believe that cash money kinda came up with the styles roots.

Wayne would look so sick in one of my pieces. Maybe he'd be down to trade a guitar. I seen he plays the Joan Jett Gibson. One in my favorite guitars.

I started this post last night so it probably doesn't make sense but I want to voice my opinion on that one kid.

I hope they stop doing tricks for hash instead of actual pay or art

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What the fuck

Hahaha

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I really hope it's not the last we see of the kid who did the bogus hard flip for a buck. I really want to see more footage of him.

Kid has a good look.  Has pretty good style. Hard flips are very hard for me.

I like the kit though.
Everything but the big chain.
Some of my homies like it but nah not for me.

I like grills. I've always wanted one. It'll never happen now obviously. I have a chain in mind I wanted to design but again I'd never be able to afford or justify a custom chain purchase.

But yeah if I was that kid in this environment I'd double down on true punk frickin rock style. Unless I was interested in like mumble rapping or whatever. Then I'd try to get the ponk look right and take it with me.

I can't watch those "artist" do it wrong anymore. I'll never make them anything for under 2500.

Lil Wayne I'd definitely give a free jacket. I don't consider him mumble rapper tho I believe that cash money kinda came up with the styles roots.

Wayne would look so sick in one of my pieces. Maybe he'd be down to trade a guitar. I seen he plays the Joan Jett Gibson. One in my favorite guitars.

I started this post last night so it probably doesn't make sense but I want to voice my opinion on that one kid.

I hope they stop doing tricks for hash instead of actual pay or art

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What the fuck

Uncle Flea is a legend of the pen. It's okay, the natural response is shock, awe, and disbelief. Think about how lucky we are we get this for free.

Skate dril

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His problem is he’s not really that well versed on skate history or even skate knowledge so if you’re older eventually you realize he doesn’t know shit but his demographic are 12-13 year old kids.

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Neither is Chris Roberts yet here we are. And the Nine Club demo is fogies.

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Being a skate nerd is rare. Most skaters don’t know what size trucks they fucking ride.

At best they know what they remember what they read in magazines when they were in high schools and what they learned from lords of dog town.

For most people nine club is their first time people hear stories from skate history. The skateboard nerdery on slap is not the norm

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You say that but then GH posts a video about some internecine skateboarding bullshit and gets 100k views in a day.

Skateboarding is pretty big now, but more importantly the demographic of skateboard media consumer is more mature, and there is obviously an appetite for a type of commentary which is more or less impossible to get out of traditional skateboard media. Remember that Thrasher was started specifically to sell Independent Trucks - how much objective opinion do you think is possible from such a source?

Doubt this claim is completely true and the primary reason for the mag to start. Yes I'm aware of Fausto Vitello, etc. being part of the big truck companies that are often pushed in the mag, but that's incidental.

Doesn't independent didn't need the help of the mag to sell trucks.

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the thing with thrasher is they are uploading daily so of course there’s gonna be videos that don’t do as hot as others, for them it comes down to what brand/skater it is. they don’t do much commentary videos which is what GH does.

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yeah they get way more views overall, not even close

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Take the first eight GH videos from above and the first eight Thrasher videos from above and GH has like 200k more views

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but his 8 videos are over a month span and thrasher’s are only 8 days

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Yeah and Thrasher has 45x the subs that GH has

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but that brings me back to what both channels post.

thrasher only posts skate content. skate clips, skate parts, skate vids, that’s it. their only commentary piece is hateline. in addition, people who sub to thrasher are more inclined to click on something pending brand/skater - for example see how tyshawn’s video part faired over the other vids that were posted that week.

now look at what gifted hater posts, commentary vids current and trending topics in skateboarding, because of this more people in skating will watch his videos because they know they are getting. he also does a live stream where he connects with his viewers and has a patreon. he’s making a killing on the IC videos because it’s the most popular topic right now, so more people will click that vs. the latest part by ulph anderson.

although they are both skate related - they both present different types of content. gifted will get more views because he is really the “go-to” skate commentary guy, funny and relatable and connects to his viewers. thrasher posts daily skate content that is consumed based on skater/brand and the magazine is made up of different people.

 You touched on a lot of great points here!

Commentary videos in general have a higher "click" factor due to a "gossip/spill the beans/question and answer format," which is far more accessible/click bait-y than actual skateboarding content. That's true for any scene out there, not just skateboarding.

With Thrasher and Nine Club, you know what you're getting.

GH capitalizes on what's trending and creates content around it. Sometimes people want to watch something semi "mindless" over actual skating where you typically need to devote all your attention to follow along.

And his videos came out of nowhere so there's the "new" factor that makes people click on his videos

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GH is just better at YouTube

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Bruh I’m so nonplussed

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People enjoy non sycophantic content

  That's not how I'd describe Slap.

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Yeah it’s a real head scratcher how GH’s Illegal Civ video got more views than Thrasher’s and Nine Club’s featuring.. *checks notes*.. Nathan Kostechko and Mike Santarossa?

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It's also comparing things that are pretty different. I'm not going to put on a bunch of skate parts/videos in the background while I'm cooking, washing up, doing laundry or whatever. Also a gh vid is usually only 15-30 mins vs a 2+ hour 9club.

I also think there's something about streaming videos that people are drawn to. Like a poker machine making all the right noises at the right time having someone's face in your lounge room making jokes and seeming to be interacting probably does something for lonely people's brains.

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Yeah it’s a real head scratcher how GH’s Illegal Civ video got more views than Thrasher’s and Nine Club’s featuring.. *checks notes*.. Nathan Kostechko and Mike Santarossa?

there's a mike santarossa nine club?!?!?