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Vans Lizzies Shoe Model
« on: March 10, 2022, 01:25:51 PM »
To start off, this isn't a review obviously. The shoe just released today. This is more of an overview that I think needs its own thread since it's vastly different than the other Vans Skate models.



I bought a size 9 from a Vans store due to skateshops in the area not having my size or not having this model available. These were $80 before tax, and I believe the white and rose colorways are $85. Based on what I've seen online and from what I gathered in the store when the associate looked for my size, the black colorway has the biggest size run while the white and rose colorways are limited to smaller sizes. This store only had black in my size, so that's what I went with.

The box is natural color instead of white, and features the same branding as the white boxes.

I was also given a pack of wildflower seeds with a purchase of these shoes, which is a nice touch and adds to the whole nature idea behind this shoe.




The BIGGEST change here is the fit. They fit very snug and narrow, so much so that I considered sizing up half a size but decided to stick with my normal size. I didn't notice heel raise in my normal size edit: small amount of heel raise but not enough to worry about, but going half size up introduced heel raise. Those that have wide feet or want more room in the toe area should consider going up half or even a full size up, depending on your preference. I would highly suggest trying these on in person first. Although these are designed by and for women, this is still a unisex shoe.

Laces are 56 inches long, and a spare lace set is included. The lace length is great for me since it's enough to use all the eyelets and tie the laces with enough spare lace to spare, but not so much to were the laces drape over the entire side of the shoe.

The insoles are called "Ecocush" which is "a 70% bio-based PU that offers comparable performance to PopCush™ for skateboarding." (Vans) On foot they feel about the same, but the Ecocush is shorter than Popcush through out the whole insole.

The purple insole is a Skate Classic Popcush (this matters since Popcush insoles before Skate Classics came out are thicker) and the yellow insole is the Ecocush.






The upper is suede in high wear areas, and canvas in the middle. There are also vent holes on the inside facing part of the shoe.



The sole actually extends past the foxing tape. I theorize that is to prevent the foxing tape from separating from the sole through wear and tear, which is going to be amazing if this design fixes that problem.


I think the toebox is slightly smaller than other Vans Skate models, although I don't have exact measurements.

Side by side comparison of Skate Classics Authentics and Lizzies.



Whether or not these have the same performance as other Vans Skate models, I couldn't tell you yet. Let me know if there's anything else you want me to find out about the shoe and I'll do my best to answer them aside from cutting them in half.
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Re: Vans Lizzie Shoe Model
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2022, 01:31:36 PM »
Are the Lizzie's considered cupsoles or vulcanized?

Also, anyone going to the Lizzie show release event in LA this weekend?

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Re: Vans Lizzie Shoe Model
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2022, 01:32:02 PM »
Are the Lizzie's considered cupsoles or vulcanized?

Also, anyone going to the Lizzie show release event in LA this weekend?

They are vulcanized.

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Re: Vans Lizzie Shoe Model
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2022, 03:27:57 PM »
Thanks!
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Re: Vans Lizzie Shoe Model
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2022, 03:46:06 PM »
They look like a modernized skate-hi. Do they have more cushioning on the uppers than the skate-his?
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Re: Vans Lizzie Shoe Model
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2022, 06:28:24 PM »
They look like a modernized skate-hi. Do they have more cushioning on the uppers than the skate-his?

The collar is not cushioned/padded.

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Re: Vans Lizzie Shoe Model
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2022, 06:35:11 PM »
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They look like a modernized skate-hi. Do they have more cushioning on the uppers than the skate-his?
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The collar is not cushioned/padded.

im not super up to date on vans, is this the first shoe with that sole? if not, what's been the general consensus?

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Re: Vans Lizzies Shoe Model
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2022, 07:42:45 PM »
The granular specificity of this op is fucking bonkers and I cannot properly express how much I respect that.

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Re: Vans Lizzies Shoe Model
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2022, 07:59:09 PM »
The granular specificity of this op is fucking bonkers and I cannot properly express how much I respect that.
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Re: Vans Lizzies Shoe Model
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2022, 10:44:26 PM »
Bummed my wide foot will be an issue

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Re: Vans Lizzies Shoe Model
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2022, 11:49:57 PM »
They remind me a lot of the Crockett high tops at first glance. Excited to see your thoughts once you wear them for a bit @yourbreakfsat

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Re: Vans Lizzies Shoe Model
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2022, 11:50:58 PM »
https://www.vans.com/thelizzie.html?icn=homepage_ife_lizzie_learn
From the "universal fit" section of the write up:

"If no two skateboarders are the same, why are all skate shoes made the same? The Lizzie introduces an entirely new fit to the skate shoe world. It’s snug but not slim, secure but not restrictive, and universally form-fitting for a wider variety of skateboarders’ feet."

Weird write up for a shoe that looks slimmer than normal vans.

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Re: Vans Lizzies Shoe Model
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2022, 12:45:45 AM »
https://www.vans.com/thelizzie.html?icn=homepage_ife_lizzie_learn
From the "universal fit" section of the write up:

"If no two skateboarders are the same, why are all skate shoes made the same? The Lizzie introduces an entirely new fit to the skate shoe world. It’s snug but not slim, secure but not restrictive, and universally form-fitting for a wider variety of skateboarders’ feet."

Weird write up for a shoe that looks slimmer than normal vans.
They very much look like bunion makers.
If no two people have the same feet how can something be universally form fitting? It can't it's just marketing waffle (pun intended). If they wanted to fit more people they need to just make more sizes.

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Re: Vans Lizzies Shoe Model
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2022, 05:23:40 AM »
They look slim, but not that slim. Kinda like a Nike Blazer?
Just not as round toe.

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Re: Vans Lizzies Shoe Model
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2022, 06:24:27 AM »
https://www.vans.com/thelizzie.html?icn=homepage_ife_lizzie_learn
From the "universal fit" section of the write up:

"If no two skateboarders are the same, why are all skate shoes made the same? The Lizzie introduces an entirely new fit to the skate shoe world. It’s snug but not slim, secure but not restrictive, and universally form-fitting for a wider variety of skateboarders’ feet."

Weird write up for a shoe that looks slimmer than normal vans.

I really don't understand Vans dancing around the fact that it's a ladies shoe, made for the ladies. This "wide variety" and "universal" wording is all nonsense. Lizzie wanted to create a shoe that her feet don't swim in and are contoured to a woman's foot. Why is that so hard.to admit and market Vans?
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Re: Vans Lizzies Shoe Model
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2022, 06:26:23 AM »
Thanks for the write-up— it basically confirms that these will not be worth trying for me, even tho they look quite nice. But a nice option for someone with narrower feet I suppose

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Re: Vans Lizzies Shoe Model
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2022, 08:26:39 AM »
Been skating the Lizzie's for a couple of weeks now. Great shoe, but, way too narrow in the toe. That combined with the duracap causes a shooting pain in my toes.

Vans really needs to focus on comfort v.s. durability. Their innovation in the skate line is completely irrelevant to what their consumers want (i.e. Wavee). They really need to ditch popcush and create something similar to the Blazer & Dunk insole and just get rid of the duracap layer altogether.

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Re: Vans Lizzies Shoe Model
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2022, 08:49:44 AM »
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https://www.vans.com/thelizzie.html?icn=homepage_ife_lizzie_learn
From the "universal fit" section of the write up:

"If no two skateboarders are the same, why are all skate shoes made the same? The Lizzie introduces an entirely new fit to the skate shoe world. It’s snug but not slim, secure but not restrictive, and universally form-fitting for a wider variety of skateboarders’ feet."

Weird write up for a shoe that looks slimmer than normal vans.
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I really don't understand Vans dancing around the fact that it's a ladies shoe, made for the ladies. This "wide variety" and "universal" wording is all nonsense. Lizzie wanted to create a shoe that her feet don't swim in and are contoured to a woman's foot. Why is that so hard.to admit and market Vans?

If I recall correctly, Leo Baker's first shoe (pre-transition, I don't want to deadname) was a slimmed-down bruin hi. It was only available in women's sizes but was exclusively listed as a men's shoe on the Nike website. Samarria Breveard's 213 is also exclusively listed as a men's shoe, although it feels way slimmer than the standard New Balance 213.

I'd assume it has to do with how the brand catalogs their inventory. Most websites don't have any skate shoes listed under women's shoes. But I'm just guessing.
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Re: Vans Lizzies Shoe Model
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2022, 08:55:43 AM »
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https://www.vans.com/thelizzie.html?icn=homepage_ife_lizzie_learn
From the "universal fit" section of the write up:

"If no two skateboarders are the same, why are all skate shoes made the same? The Lizzie introduces an entirely new fit to the skate shoe world. It’s snug but not slim, secure but not restrictive, and universally form-fitting for a wider variety of skateboarders’ feet."

Weird write up for a shoe that looks slimmer than normal vans.
[close]

I really don't understand Vans dancing around the fact that it's a ladies shoe, made for the ladies. This "wide variety" and "universal" wording is all nonsense. Lizzie wanted to create a shoe that her feet don't swim in and are contoured to a woman's foot. Why is that so hard.to admit and market Vans?
[close]

If I recall correctly, Leo Baker's first shoe (pre-transition, I don't want to deadname) was a slimmed-down bruin hi. It was only available in women's sizes but was exclusively listed as a men's shoe on the Nike website. Samarria Breveard's 213 is also exclusively listed as a men's shoe, although it feels way slimmer than the standard New Balance 213.

I'd assume it has to do with how the brand catalogs their inventory. Most websites don't have any skate shoes listed under women's shoes. But I'm just guessing.


Kinda funny and sorta irrelevant, but one time I was ordering a pair of Converse Louie Lopez's and I noticed that the "woman's" size of the shoe was like ten bucks cheaper. It was the same exact shoe, just the sizes were listed in reverse order lol.


So, I bought a pair of "women's" Converse.

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Re: Vans Lizzies Shoe Model
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2022, 10:44:16 AM »
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https://www.vans.com/thelizzie.html?icn=homepage_ife_lizzie_learn
From the "universal fit" section of the write up:

"If no two skateboarders are the same, why are all skate shoes made the same? The Lizzie introduces an entirely new fit to the skate shoe world. It’s snug but not slim, secure but not restrictive, and universally form-fitting for a wider variety of skateboarders’ feet."

Weird write up for a shoe that looks slimmer than normal vans.
[close]

I really don't understand Vans dancing around the fact that it's a ladies shoe, made for the ladies. This "wide variety" and "universal" wording is all nonsense. Lizzie wanted to create a shoe that her feet don't swim in and are contoured to a woman's foot. Why is that so hard.to admit and market Vans?
Cons did this too saying the Alexis mids sizing is gender neutral. I’d ride both if they were a standard width.

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Re: Vans Lizzies Shoe Model
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2022, 10:51:28 AM »
Gender neutral shoe sizing overdue

Hyped to try these on

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Re: Vans Lizzies Shoe Model
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2022, 12:25:59 PM »
Bummed my wide foot will be an issue

Those toe boxes don't even look like they're made for human feet. Tailored for some aliens with perfectly symmetrical and rounded toes.

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Re: Vans Lizzies Shoe Model
« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2022, 01:15:11 PM »
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The granular specificity of this op is fucking bonkers and I cannot properly express how much I respect that.
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Re: Vans Lizzies Shoe Model
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2022, 01:19:19 PM »
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They look like a modernized skate-hi. Do they have more cushioning on the uppers than the skate-his?
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The collar is not cushioned/padded.
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im not super up to date on vans, is this the first shoe with that sole? if not, what's been the general consensus?

I swear I've seen this sole before, but I can't find an example. So far, it's holding up very nice and is grippy but not overly grippy.

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The granular specificity of this op is fucking bonkers and I cannot properly express how much I respect that.
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I find myself asking very specific questions about certain products but never could find answers, so I figured I might as well answer them myself :v

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Re: Vans Lizzies Shoe Model
« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2022, 01:54:37 PM »
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They look like a modernized skate-hi. Do they have more cushioning on the uppers than the skate-his?
[close]

The collar is not cushioned/padded.
[close]

im not super up to date on vans, is this the first shoe with that sole? if not, what's been the general consensus?
[close]

I swear I've seen this sole before, but I can't find an example. So far, it's holding up very nice and is grippy but not overly grippy.

Expand Quote
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The granular specificity of this op is fucking bonkers and I cannot properly express how much I respect that.
[close]
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I find myself asking very specific questions about certain products but never could find answers, so I figured I might as well answer them myself :v

thanks for the answer! i kept thinking it was the same as the ave but it obv isn't. really interesting to see what's been inverted w/r/t the waffle parts, looks like a lot more surface area actually touching the board compared to most vans soles? it's a weird mix of their winterized sole and others to me, but i'm into it. curious how it lasts vs the others too

biggest question though - did you plant your seeds yet?

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Re: Vans Lizzies Shoe Model
« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2022, 02:15:49 PM »
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They look like a modernized skate-hi. Do they have more cushioning on the uppers than the skate-his?
[close]

The collar is not cushioned/padded.
[close]

im not super up to date on vans, is this the first shoe with that sole? if not, what's been the general consensus?
[close]

I swear I've seen this sole before, but I can't find an example. So far, it's holding up very nice and is grippy but not overly grippy.

Expand Quote
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The granular specificity of this op is fucking bonkers and I cannot properly express how much I respect that.
[close]
[close]

I find myself asking very specific questions about certain products but never could find answers, so I figured I might as well answer them myself :v
[close]

thanks for the answer! i kept thinking it was the same as the ave but it obv isn't. really interesting to see what's been inverted w/r/t the waffle parts, looks like a lot more surface area actually touching the board compared to most vans soles? it's a weird mix of their winterized sole and others to me, but i'm into it. curious how it lasts vs the others too

biggest question though - did you plant your seeds yet?

Now that you mention it, the sole design makes sense. I was worried that the sole would feel weird but it doesn't.

And yes, seeds are planted  :) I'll post a pic when they bloom.

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Re: Vans Lizzies Shoe Model
« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2022, 02:34:34 PM »
Now this is a good thread. These shoes look interesting, I want them.

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Re: Vans Lizzies Shoe Model
« Reply #27 on: March 11, 2022, 03:01:04 PM »
Good looking shoe. I’d wear it but I got fat flinstones feet.

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Re: Vans Lizzies Shoe Model
« Reply #28 on: March 11, 2022, 03:22:14 PM »
Gender neutral shoe sizing overdue

Hyped to try these on
They made it on a smaller last and called it gender neutral but probably won’t fit most man feets. Real progress would be releasing high volume and low volume shapes like outdoor brands

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Re: Vans Lizzies Shoe Model
« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2022, 07:53:29 AM »
I find lizzie attractive.