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Re: Powell dragon formula tested by nine club.
« Reply #120 on: August 08, 2022, 02:10:30 PM »
I will wait for others to report. I haven't trusted Powell/Bones with anything since the Boneite debacle.

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Re: Powell dragon formula tested by nine club.
« Reply #121 on: August 08, 2022, 02:11:18 PM »
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so yeah, paid advertisement and im not interested in bones, powell, or andy anderson.

but i am interested in what those wheels are claiming. im going to portugal soon and i read that you have to skate longer distances between spots on mosaics/cobblestone. instead of switching out soft cruisers and spitfire classics like I have when I know I'll be out all day, what are some other wheels to recommend for an easy ride on crusty surfaces that still have a decent control for normal street skating. I had a set of OJs that I kind of liked and I could still skate in, but when doing shit like backside 180 tricks, I felt I got caught on the last part of the rotation.
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They might be the ones you already had, but I really like the super juice minis for a hood in between wheel

While we’re on this subject what would euro pals recommend for Paris, going in October and then moving there permanently in the new year. I know it’s kinda old and rough but also more modern road and sidewalk wise depending where you are. Should I get  cruiser board or just invest in an e bike ? I grew up in older southern cities so I’m used to shitty ground but I’m assuming this is next level crust
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Re: Powell dragon formula tested by nine club.
« Reply #122 on: August 08, 2022, 02:52:18 PM »
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so yeah, paid advertisement and im not interested in bones, powell, or andy anderson.

but i am interested in what those wheels are claiming. im going to portugal soon and i read that you have to skate longer distances between spots on mosaics/cobblestone. instead of switching out soft cruisers and spitfire classics like I have when I know I'll be out all day, what are some other wheels to recommend for an easy ride on crusty surfaces that still have a decent control for normal street skating. I had a set of OJs that I kind of liked and I could still skate in, but when doing shit like backside 180 tricks, I felt I got caught on the last part of the rotation.
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They might be the ones you already had, but I really like the super juice minis for a hood in between wheel
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While we’re on this subject what would euro pals recommend for Paris, going in October and then moving there permanently in the new year. I know it’s kinda old and rough but also more modern road and sidewalk wise depending where you are. Should I get  cruiser board or just invest in an e bike ? I grew up in older southern cities so I’m used to shitty ground but I’m assuming this is next level crust
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Re: Powell dragon formula tested by nine club.
« Reply #123 on: August 08, 2022, 03:57:47 PM »
will someone just film a powerslide in these dumb ass wheels i'm curious

mee too, a soft wheel that wont flat spot for hill bombing speed checks sounds cool.

Just watched the video, a lot of what roger said was weird "this is like the krytonics revolution"?... ???

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Re: Powell dragon formula tested by nine club.
« Reply #124 on: August 08, 2022, 04:08:06 PM »
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will someone just film a powerslide in these dumb ass wheels i'm curious
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mee too, a soft wheel that wont flat spot for hill bombing speed checks sounds cool.

Just watched the video, a lot of what roger said was weird "this is like the krytonics revolution"?... ???

Zach Doelling power sliding the 93a and 95a:

https://youtu.be/KmnH0uqXasU?t=406

Edit: Zach in the comments: "They should be out near September, also in a 97!"
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Re: Powell dragon formula tested by nine club.
« Reply #125 on: August 08, 2022, 04:23:00 PM »
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will someone just film a powerslide in these dumb ass wheels i'm curious
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mee too, a soft wheel that wont flat spot for hill bombing speed checks sounds cool.

Just watched the video, a lot of what roger said was weird "this is like the krytonics revolution"?... ???

Agree it sounds overblown…

In case you’re wondering he’s referring to this

https://issuu.com/dwindledistribution/docs/concrete_wave_mag_11_13

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Re: Powell dragon formula tested by nine club.
« Reply #126 on: August 08, 2022, 06:04:54 PM »
I will wait for others to report. I haven't trusted Powell/Bones with anything since the Boneite debacle.

Check the wheel thread in the gear category.

Feedback seems to be 90% positive, with the 10% being some questions about friction on very specific things like angle iron, how quiet they are, or if it’s worth giving up 97a Spits
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Re: Powell dragon formula tested by nine club.
« Reply #127 on: August 08, 2022, 06:35:50 PM »
Oj Nomads Baby. Been on these for a min.


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Re: Powell dragon formula tested by nine club.
« Reply #128 on: August 08, 2022, 07:16:49 PM »
I've been skating off and on for 35 years.
Went through a gnar phase chucking myself off the tallest shit I could find, and later in life switched to tech skating when my knees couldn't handle the impact anymore.
I've owned wheels that range from the hottest new "revolutionary" formula to the cheapest house brand I could get my hands on.

Never flat-spotted a wheel. Not once in 35 years. And not 35 years of just cruising, I'm not mind-blowing by any stretch but I can hold my own in a heavy session.

What the fuck are y'all doing that this is such a huge, common issue?

Are there secret contests I've never heard about where y'all get together to see who can barge the gnarliest powerslide across 50 grit sandpaper?

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Re: Powell dragon formula tested by nine club.
« Reply #129 on: August 08, 2022, 07:45:41 PM »
I've been skating off and on for 35 years.
Went through a gnar phase chucking myself off the tallest shit I could find, and later in life switched to tech skating when my knees couldn't handle the impact anymore.
I've owned wheels that range from the hottest new "revolutionary" formula to the cheapest house brand I could get my hands on.

Never flat-spotted a wheel. Not once in 35 years. And not 35 years of just cruising, I'm not mind-blowing by any stretch but I can hold my own in a heavy session.

What the fuck are y'all doing that this is such a huge, common issue?

Are there secret contests I've never heard about where y'all get together to see who can barge the gnarliest powerslide across 50 grit sandpaper?
You have impeccable technique, only skate perfect ground, have low standards for "holding your own in a heavy session", or have had good luck for 35 years.

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Re: Powell dragon formula tested by nine club.
« Reply #130 on: August 08, 2022, 07:47:27 PM »
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I've been skating off and on for 35 years.
Went through a gnar phase chucking myself off the tallest shit I could find, and later in life switched to tech skating when my knees couldn't handle the impact anymore.
I've owned wheels that range from the hottest new "revolutionary" formula to the cheapest house brand I could get my hands on.

Never flat-spotted a wheel. Not once in 35 years. And not 35 years of just cruising, I'm not mind-blowing by any stretch but I can hold my own in a heavy session.

What the fuck are y'all doing that this is such a huge, common issue?

Are there secret contests I've never heard about where y'all get together to see who can barge the gnarliest powerslide across 50 grit sandpaper?
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You have impeccable technique, only skate perfect ground, have low standards for "holding your own in a heavy session", or have had good luck for 35 years.

I'm gonna go with "All of the above"

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Re: Powell dragon formula tested by nine club.
« Reply #131 on: August 08, 2022, 08:49:29 PM »
It's such a well-made commercial that people think it isn't one.

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Re: Powell dragon formula tested by nine club.
« Reply #132 on: August 09, 2022, 12:25:44 AM »
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so yeah, paid advertisement and im not interested in bones, powell, or andy anderson.

but i am interested in what those wheels are claiming. im going to portugal soon and i read that you have to skate longer distances between spots on mosaics/cobblestone. instead of switching out soft cruisers and spitfire classics like I have when I know I'll be out all day, what are some other wheels to recommend for an easy ride on crusty surfaces that still have a decent control for normal street skating. I had a set of OJs that I kind of liked and I could still skate in, but when doing shit like backside 180 tricks, I felt I got caught on the last part of the rotation.
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They might be the ones you already had, but I really like the super juice minis for a hood in between wheel
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While we’re on this subject what would euro pals recommend for Paris, going in October and then moving there permanently in the new year. I know it’s kinda old and rough but also more modern road and sidewalk wise depending where you are. Should I get  cruiser board or just invest in an e bike ? I grew up in older southern cities so I’m used to shitty ground but I’m assuming this is next level crust

oh man. overall Paris has smoother sidewalks than every city I've ever been to... Better rolling ground than LA, NYC, London, you name it! The streets themselves are a little rougher though. But IMO it's THE best city to roll around and cruise. so fuck a bike. Paris grey/blue bitumen is maybe the number 1 thing I miss since I've moved.

anyways considering feedback is 90% positive in the gear thread, as Cucktard said, and it's the same in the youtube comments, I'm gonna try these real soon. I live in Brussels now, the ground is rough here and I spend at least half of my skating time cruising, so these Dragons sound very interesting indeed...

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AllezJambon I've been seeing your user name for years but for some reason I only just understood now what it litterally translates to back in english haha....
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Re: Powell dragon formula tested by nine club.
« Reply #133 on: August 09, 2022, 01:06:09 AM »
So people are stoked they powerslide for things like 360's on flat? Im confused

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Re: Powell dragon formula tested by nine club.
« Reply #134 on: August 09, 2022, 02:52:43 AM »
So people are stoked they powerslide for things like 360's on flat? Im confused

Nose & tail slides, speed checks, and a bit of slide really helps transition stuff. Just more control.

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Re: Powell dragon formula tested by nine club.
« Reply #135 on: August 09, 2022, 05:06:09 AM »
Who cares about this new formula, why is nobody talking about T-Bones II?

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Re: Powell dragon formula tested by nine club.
« Reply #136 on: August 09, 2022, 06:36:52 AM »
Man rog seems kinda methy or he’s a 40 year old that dresses like a 20 year old hipster and don’t know how to chew gum.

This shit was cringey as fuck. Too much && seems like weirdos trying sell you on coming to church with them like the random “oh my they are so great ::weird forced laugh::” random guy that board slid so the wheels are not even sliding. Roof can fuck up those curbs and he had done some lengthy  feebles but krooks seemed short. Idk. Too much drink the kool aid vibes. Seems like I need wait for 95-97a
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Re: Powell dragon formula tested by nine club.
« Reply #137 on: August 09, 2022, 06:41:29 AM »
I've been skating off and on for 35 years.
Went through a gnar phase chucking myself off the tallest shit I could find, and later in life switched to tech skating when my knees couldn't handle the impact anymore.
I've owned wheels that range from the hottest new "revolutionary" formula to the cheapest house brand I could get my hands on.

Never flat-spotted a wheel. Not once in 35 years. And not 35 years of just cruising, I'm not mind-blowing by any stretch but I can hold my own in a heavy session.

What the fuck are y'all doing that this is such a huge, common issue?

Are there secret contests I've never heard about where y'all get together to see who can barge the gnarliest powerslide across 50 grit sandpaper?

Flatspots were super common in the  early 90s (when wheels were tiny) and also early 2000s (when the EPA tightened up regulations on how urethane was poured). Under rotate a backside 180, hold that blunt slide a little long, hit a pebble in the bowl... good chance of a flatspot. Still happens these days even with SPF/ STF and F4s from time to time. I don't know many skaters worth their salt who have never flat-spotted a wheel.

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Re: Powell dragon formula tested by nine club.
« Reply #138 on: August 09, 2022, 06:47:36 AM »
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I've been skating off and on for 35 years.
Went through a gnar phase chucking myself off the tallest shit I could find, and later in life switched to tech skating when my knees couldn't handle the impact anymore.
I've owned wheels that range from the hottest new "revolutionary" formula to the cheapest house brand I could get my hands on.

Never flat-spotted a wheel. Not once in 35 years. And not 35 years of just cruising, I'm not mind-blowing by any stretch but I can hold my own in a heavy session.

What the fuck are y'all doing that this is such a huge, common issue?

Are there secret contests I've never heard about where y'all get together to see who can barge the gnarliest powerslide across 50 grit sandpaper?
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Flatspots were super common in the  early 90s (when wheels were tiny) and also early 2000s (when the EPA tightened up regulations on how urethane was poured). Under rotate a backside 180, hold that blunt slide a little long, hit a pebble in the bowl... good chance of a flatspot. Still happens these days even with SPF/ STF and F4s from time to time. I don't know many skaters worth their salt who have never flat-spotted a wheel.
I guess some people are just lucky. I think even in the 2010s (right up to formula 4s) wheels could get Flintstone'd pretty easy. I had a set of Chima f1s that I completely fucked one wheel literally first trick that was probably 2011ish

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Re: Powell dragon formula tested by nine club.
« Reply #139 on: August 09, 2022, 06:59:20 AM »
Flintstone is was a way better term than flatspot. Thanks for the laugh @Mean salto

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Re: Powell dragon formula tested by nine club.
« Reply #140 on: August 09, 2022, 07:05:33 AM »
those super plastic cored rictas in the early 2000's too. my friends literally became triangles (he did love a power slide back then though.) was enough to put me off ever buying them.

are ricta's any better nowadays?

not going to change up tho, these 99 f4's give me everything i need from a wheel.
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Re: Powell dragon formula tested by nine club.
« Reply #141 on: August 09, 2022, 07:37:14 AM »
The only wheels I ever had flat spot were some shitty blank green shop wheels and it was cause i did a huge powerslide on rough ground down a massively steep hill in Japan. they were probably really soft too. I remember Darkstar were notorious for flatspot. I had shitty flip wheels before that might have flat spotted too actually. once i started getting Bones wheels I never had flat spots, and so far my OJs are holding up fine too.

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So people are stoked they powerslide for things like 360's on flat? Im confused
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a bit of slide really helps transition stuff. Just more control.

i would say you have LESS control unless the ramp is really sticky. Once I switched from STF over to these 95a OJs, i was way more confident on transition because I wasnt sliding all over the place. I felt like I had to place rock 180 so perfect otherwise i would slip out. I still get tons of slip with these but it actaully just helps slow me down the tiniest bit too so i dont die. I have only skated concrete, fiarly slippery quarters so far though, have not skated any wood with these wheels yet i dont think.

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Re: Powell dragon formula tested by nine club.
« Reply #142 on: August 09, 2022, 07:37:51 AM »

Flatspots were super common in the  early 90s (when wheels were tiny) and also early 2000s (when the EPA tightened up regulations on how urethane was poured). Under rotate a backside 180, hold that blunt slide a little long, hit a pebble in the bowl... good chance of a flatspot. Still happens these days even with SPF/ STF and F4s from time to time. I don't know many skaters worth their salt who have never flat-spotted a wheel.

Beats me, I guess I have just been lucky. I definitely have a tendency to skrrrt a few tricks here and there.
Great, now I'm gonna flat spot a wheel tomorrow I just know it...

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Re: Powell dragon formula tested by nine club.
« Reply #143 on: August 09, 2022, 08:05:03 AM »
How many times does Roger say "fuckin'" or "fuck" in that review video?? It needs that counter meter in the corner like South Park did for how many times they said "shit".

That’s cuz he’s from the north east. We say fuckin or frickin before everything and end with kid.

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Re: Powell dragon formula tested by nine club.
« Reply #144 on: August 09, 2022, 08:28:05 AM »
Finally watched this review. How the fuck is this guy claiming to skate a curb for 8 hours and then constantly crying about how busy he is?

Wants to do it more?

What’s more important than the sand gaps and curbs doe?

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Re: Powell dragon formula tested by nine club.
« Reply #145 on: August 09, 2022, 08:34:46 AM »
I watched a few YouTuber videos on these.

The issue here is the sound like Corduroy pant legs rubbing together when they slide.

That and size. I know it’s easier to roll but bones needs to understand I be skateboarding bricks almost Exclusively because I’m a certified G.
Also I be bombing hills with 60 mm cracks and shit.

Fucking spit understands this. Bones thinks only free riders and very people want bigger than 56mm wheels.

If bones dropped a 60mm USA made wheel I’d never stop riding them. 

Also they gotta make all black outfits illegal on Powell. That team is supposed to rock powder blue and salmon board shorts.

Also is thrasher beefing with Powell team. Seems to me the Powell guys hate thrasher and thrasher won’t run them since like 2012-13.

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Re: Powell dragon formula tested by nine club.
« Reply #146 on: August 09, 2022, 08:40:32 AM »
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I've been skating off and on for 35 years.
Went through a gnar phase chucking myself off the tallest shit I could find, and later in life switched to tech skating when my knees couldn't handle the impact anymore.
I've owned wheels that range from the hottest new "revolutionary" formula to the cheapest house brand I could get my hands on.

Never flat-spotted a wheel. Not once in 35 years. And not 35 years of just cruising, I'm not mind-blowing by any stretch but I can hold my own in a heavy session.

What the fuck are y'all doing that this is such a huge, common issue?

Are there secret contests I've never heard about where y'all get together to see who can barge the gnarliest powerslide across 50 grit sandpaper?
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You have impeccable technique, only skate perfect ground, have low standards for "holding your own in a heavy session", or have had good luck for 35 years.

For real, once I bought some formula-4s and them shits flat spotted when trying to avoid some scooter kids...I think only other time my shit flat spots is when I slide to long on a hillbomb speed check...also shitty asphalt

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Re: Powell dragon formula tested by nine club.
« Reply #147 on: August 09, 2022, 09:33:09 AM »
If it ain't broke don't Powell it.

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Re: Powell dragon formula tested by nine club.
« Reply #148 on: August 09, 2022, 09:38:14 AM »
For those who don't want to read the wheels thread here is a summary:

-One poster that made an account <6 months ago who predominantly posts about wheels and seems to find negatives with every single wheel is responsible for 90% of the posts about them. Wouldn't be shocked if they were active on SkateOne.
-This poster constantly posts vague claims about their slides and grinds but recently admitted they haven't really grinded much on them.
-They are smoother and faster than harder wheels and yes, they can slide. It's a different slide- it makes a whizzing noise and feels "slick" and then catches as opposed to an F4 where you push through the slide and it has a linear response. You might like or hate it.
-On waxed objects they can grind and slide almost as well, but not quite. When they slow down they really slow down.
-They sound gummy. You may or may not care.
-They're slower on smooth ground especially at parks. They need more wax on angle iron style coping.
-There hasn't been a single objective review. I've attempted to compare them back to back, but even that is inconclusive. All YouTube reviews have some bias.

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Re: Powell dragon formula tested by nine club.
« Reply #149 on: August 09, 2022, 09:47:28 AM »
For those who don't want to read the wheels thread here is a summary:

-One poster that made an account <6 months ago who predominantly posts about wheels and seems to find negatives with every single wheel is responsible for 90% of the posts about them. Wouldn't be shocked if they were active on SkateOne.
-This poster constantly posts vague claims about their slides and grinds but recently admitted they haven't really grinded much on them.
-They are smoother and faster than harder wheels and yes, they can slide. It's a different slide- it makes a whizzing noise and feels "slick" and then catches as opposed to an F4 where you push through the slide and it has a linear response. You might like or hate it.
-On waxed objects they can grind and slide almost as well, but not quite. When they slow down they really slow down.
-They sound gummy. You may or may not care.
-They're slower on smooth ground especially at parks. They need more wax on angle iron style coping.
-There hasn't been a single objective review. I've attempted to compare them back to back, but even that is inconclusive. All YouTube reviews have some bias.

I find your obsession with these wheels baffling. Some people here like them and prefer how they skate to the alternatives, yet you have been on a quest to disprove our admittedly completely subjective opinions about it. Can you not accept that there might exist preferences different from your own?