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Re: Beatrice Domond pro for FA very soon
« Reply #1530 on: July 20, 2023, 09:08:07 AM »
I'd rather watch Omar 50-50 heelflip.



He's a damn dreamboat so I'd even be down to watch him do literally anything.

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Re: Beatrice Domond pro for FA very soon
« Reply #1531 on: July 20, 2023, 09:10:45 AM »
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I'd rather watch Omar 50-50 heelflip.


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He's a damn dreamboat so I'd even be down to watch him do literally anything.

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Re: Beatrice Domond pro for FA very soon
« Reply #1532 on: July 20, 2023, 09:47:09 AM »
FA story has a leak of one line, a hippy jump, and a glimpse of a black/black zahba mid.

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Re: Beatrice Domond pro for FA very soon
« Reply #1533 on: July 20, 2023, 10:22:12 AM »
Maybe related, maybe not

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Re: Beatrice Domond pro for FA very soon
« Reply #1534 on: July 20, 2023, 10:25:40 AM »
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Also, from what I understand she doesn't have a full part in this Keepsake vid, just clips... that's gonna go over so well here I'm sure hahaha
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someone better tell Beatrice
https://twitter.com/Beatrice_Domond/status/1676335405791162369


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Okay I promise I’ll shut up until it’s out.. but I just want to bump this post.  She says she has a part in Keepsake, some sources are saying otherwise.  If she has a minute or less footage, does that count as a part?  Does she deserve to be called out for claiming it one?

Also, her saying it’s “the first of many” opens up a whole new discussion.. no skater knows how long they’ll be on the board, so it’s a tad presumptuous at best.  And what if that turns out to be untrue and she doesn’t drastically increase her productivity?  Does she deserve to be called out for that?

This isn’t about her skill level, but at what point does it become justified to critique someone for making potentially false claims?  Or is that perpetually regarded as hating or pocket checking?

I'm not the most reputable source, as I can't even find the Instagram post I remember seeing AND it wasn't crystal clear even from that post if her part is "full" or not. But I'll try to answer your questions. My apologies if this is too annoying or dense for some of you guys, but it will be my last post in this thread (I mean it this time. Shit's been bad for my health lol).

I'd say that if her clips don't live up to certain standards, it's fair enough to call her naive to some unrwitten rules in skateboarding. I would rightly expect many to hesitate to call her footage a "part" if it amounts to less than a minute of screen time. Although, I also think it's more than fair to mind that these standards have had decades to develop, and that men have had decades to progress to a point where they can live up to them. Black women have not had a real solid opportunity to catch up yet, as their participation is relatively new and currently limited in number... A fair point to acknowledge, yes?

If it then later turns out that she doesn't live up to her claim of putting out many more parts in the future, I think it'd be fair to critique the fact that she didn't back that big claim up. No doubt about it! Yet, I ALSO think it would be fair to acknowledge the fact that Beatrice ever being in a position to put out a widely seen part is noteworthy and progressive for skateboarding. This is clear when considering the current and historic lack of representation for black women in the industry, mentioned earlier. Justified claim?

You see, I think there have been plenty of critiques treated with fairness in this thread. The refusal by some to recognize any kind of significance in her career is what's unfair, in my opinion... I'll add that I also think it's unfair to attack a person's character when they get defensive online after being harassed across platforms, despite there being some fair critiques of particular comments (iphone screen).

But wait, I already explained why I think that it doesnt do justice to future female/black female skaters to claim that she's setting the bar too low for them, right? And how it's unfair/reductive to past and present minority skaters to claim that skateboarding is post racial and purely colorblind? Doesn't that take away from their achievements by retroactively erasing very real barriers created by the white majority in America that are bigger than skateboarding and affect even the most progressive spaces? I think it's fair to keep that in mind, too, unless you don't believe in those barriers... or if you truly just feel like skateboarding has been that radically accepting of those other than white men that it completely defies them. In which case... agree to disagree.

Edit: I wanted to say that I even think it's fair to criticize her trick selection. Personally, I think she's good enough to mix it up.
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Re: Beatrice Domond pro for FA very soon
« Reply #1535 on: July 20, 2023, 10:27:59 AM »
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Also, from what I understand she doesn't have a full part in this Keepsake vid, just clips... that's gonna go over so well here I'm sure hahaha
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someone better tell Beatrice
https://twitter.com/Beatrice_Domond/status/1676335405791162369


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Okay I promise I’ll shut up until it’s out.. but I just want to bump this post.  She says she has a part in Keepsake, some sources are saying otherwise.  If she has a minute or less footage, does that count as a part?  Does she deserve to be called out for claiming it one?

Also, her saying it’s “the first of many” opens up a whole new discussion.. no skater knows how long they’ll be on the board, so it’s a tad presumptuous at best.  And what if that turns out to be untrue and she doesn’t drastically increase her productivity?  Does she deserve to be called out for that?

This isn’t about her skill level, but at what point does it become justified to critique someone for making potentially false claims?  Or is that perpetually regarded as hating or pocket checking?
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I'm not the most reputable source, as I can't even find the Instagram post I remember seeing AND it wasn't crystal clear even from that post if her part is "full" or not. But I'll try to answer your questions. My apologies if this is too annoying or dense for some of you guys, but it will be my last post in this thread (I mean it this time. Shit's been bad for my health lol).

I'd say that if her clips don't live up to certain standards, it's fair enough to call her naive to some unrwitten rules in skateboarding. I would rightly expect many to hesitate to call her footage a "part" if it amounts to less than a minute of screen time. Although, I also think it's more than fair to mind that these standards have had decades to develop, and that men have had decades to progress to a point where they can live up to them. Black women have not had a real solid opportunity to catch up yet, as their participation is relatively new and currently limited in number... A fair point to acknowledge, yes?

If it then later turns out that she doesn't live up to her claim of putting out many more parts in the future, I think it'd be fair to critique the fact that she didn't back that big claim up. No doubt about it! Yet, I ALSO think it would be fair to acknowledge the fact that Beatrice ever being in a position to put out widely seen parts is noteworthy and progressive for skateboarding. This is clear when considering the current and historic lack of representation for black women in the industry, mentioned earlier. Justified claim?

You see, I think there have been plenty of critiques treated with fairness in this thread. The refusal by some to recognize any kind of significance in her career is what's unfair, in my opinion... I'll add that I also think it's unfair to attack a person's character when they get defensive online after being harassed across platforms, despite their being some fair critiques of particular comments (iphone screen).

But wait, why I think that it doesnt do justice to future female/black female skaters to claim that she's setting the bar too low for them, right? And how it's unfair/reductive to past and present minority skaters to claim that skateboarding is post racial and purely colorblind? Doesn't that take away from their achievements by retroactively erasing very real barriers created by the white majority in America that are bigger than skateboarding and affect even the most progressive spaces? I think it's fair to keep that in mind, too, unless you don't believe in those boundaries... or if you truly just feel like skateboarding has been that radically accepting of those other than white men that it defies them. In which case... agree to disagree.

Say that again in 3 sentences max and maybe I’ll read it.


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Re: Beatrice Domond pro for FA very soon
« Reply #1536 on: July 20, 2023, 10:29:15 AM »
i just wanna know how the part was -_-

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Re: Beatrice Domond pro for FA very soon
« Reply #1537 on: July 20, 2023, 10:39:34 AM »
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Also, from what I understand she doesn't have a full part in this Keepsake vid, just clips... that's gonna go over so well here I'm sure hahaha
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someone better tell Beatrice
https://twitter.com/Beatrice_Domond/status/1676335405791162369


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Okay I promise I’ll shut up until it’s out.. but I just want to bump this post.  She says she has a part in Keepsake, some sources are saying otherwise.  If she has a minute or less footage, does that count as a part?  Does she deserve to be called out for claiming it one?

Also, her saying it’s “the first of many” opens up a whole new discussion.. no skater knows how long they’ll be on the board, so it’s a tad presumptuous at best.  And what if that turns out to be untrue and she doesn’t drastically increase her productivity?  Does she deserve to be called out for that?

This isn’t about her skill level, but at what point does it become justified to critique someone for making potentially false claims?  Or is that perpetually regarded as hating or pocket checking?
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I'm not the most reputable source, as I can't even find the Instagram post I remember seeing AND it wasn't crystal clear even from that post if her part is "full" or not. But I'll try to answer your questions. My apologies if this is too annoying or dense for some of you guys, but it will be my last post in this thread (I mean it this time. Shit's been bad for my health lol).

I'd say that if her clips don't live up to certain standards, it's fair enough to call her naive to some unrwitten rules in skateboarding. I would rightly expect many to hesitate to call her footage a "part" if it amounts to less than a minute of screen time. Although, I also think it's more than fair to mind that these standards have had decades to develop, and that men have had decades to progress to a point where they can live up to them. Black women have not had a real solid opportunity to catch up yet, as their participation is relatively new and currently limited in number... A fair point to acknowledge, yes?

If it then later turns out that she doesn't live up to her claim of putting out many more parts in the future, I think it'd be fair to critique the fact that she didn't back that big claim up. No doubt about it! Yet, I ALSO think it would be fair to acknowledge the fact that Beatrice ever being in a position to put out widely seen parts is noteworthy and progressive for skateboarding. This is clear when considering the current and historic lack of representation for black women in the industry, mentioned earlier. Justified claim?

You see, I think there have been plenty of critiques treated with fairness in this thread. The refusal by some to recognize any kind of significance in her career is what's unfair, in my opinion... I'll add that I also think it's unfair to attack a person's character when they get defensive online after being harassed across platforms, despite their being some fair critiques of particular comments (iphone screen).

But wait, why I think that it doesnt do justice to future female/black female skaters to claim that she's setting the bar too low for them, right? And how it's unfair/reductive to past and present minority skaters to claim that skateboarding is post racial and purely colorblind? Doesn't that take away from their achievements by retroactively erasing very real barriers created by the white majority in America that are bigger than skateboarding and affect even the most progressive spaces? I think it's fair to keep that in mind, too, unless you don't believe in those boundaries... or if you truly just feel like skateboarding has been that radically accepting of those other than white men that it defies them. In which case... agree to disagree.
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Say that again in 3 sentences max and maybe I’ll read it.

Apparently it’s monumental enough that a black woman would ever skateboard that we should not measure her against other female skaters (or I guess black male skaters ability to excel regardless of societal disadvantages)  bc that would do a disservice to the groundbreaking work she is doing by just being sponsored

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Re: Beatrice Domond pro for FA very soon
« Reply #1538 on: July 20, 2023, 10:42:15 AM »
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Also, from what I understand she doesn't have a full part in this Keepsake vid, just clips... that's gonna go over so well here I'm sure hahaha
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someone better tell Beatrice
https://twitter.com/Beatrice_Domond/status/1676335405791162369


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Okay I promise I’ll shut up until it’s out.. but I just want to bump this post.  She says she has a part in Keepsake, some sources are saying otherwise.  If she has a minute or less footage, does that count as a part?  Does she deserve to be called out for claiming it one?

Also, her saying it’s “the first of many” opens up a whole new discussion.. no skater knows how long they’ll be on the board, so it’s a tad presumptuous at best.  And what if that turns out to be untrue and she doesn’t drastically increase her productivity?  Does she deserve to be called out for that?

This isn’t about her skill level, but at what point does it become justified to critique someone for making potentially false claims?  Or is that perpetually regarded as hating or pocket checking?
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I'm not the most reputable source, as I can't even find the Instagram post I remember seeing AND it wasn't crystal clear even from that post if her part is "full" or not. But I'll try to answer your questions. My apologies if this is too annoying or dense for some of you guys, but it will be my last post in this thread (I mean it this time. Shit's been bad for my health lol).

I'd say that if her clips don't live up to certain standards, it's fair enough to call her naive to some unrwitten rules in skateboarding. I would rightly expect many to hesitate to call her footage a "part" if it amounts to less than a minute of screen time. Although, I also think it's more than fair to mind that these standards have had decades to develop, and that men have had decades to progress to a point where they can live up to them. Black women have not had a real solid opportunity to catch up yet, as their participation is relatively new and currently limited in number... A fair point to acknowledge, yes?

If it then later turns out that she doesn't live up to her claim of putting out many more parts in the future, I think it'd be fair to critique the fact that she didn't back that big claim up. No doubt about it! Yet, I ALSO think it would be fair to acknowledge the fact that Beatrice ever being in a position to put out widely seen parts is noteworthy and progressive for skateboarding. This is clear when considering the current and historic lack of representation for black women in the industry, mentioned earlier. Justified claim?

You see, I think there have been plenty of critiques treated with fairness in this thread. The refusal by some to recognize any kind of significance in her career is what's unfair, in my opinion... I'll add that I also think it's unfair to attack a person's character when they get defensive online after being harassed across platforms, despite their being some fair critiques of particular comments (iphone screen).

But wait, why I think that it doesnt do justice to future female/black female skaters to claim that she's setting the bar too low for them, right? And how it's unfair/reductive to past and present minority skaters to claim that skateboarding is post racial and purely colorblind? Doesn't that take away from their achievements by retroactively erasing very real barriers created by the white majority in America that are bigger than skateboarding and affect even the most progressive spaces? I think it's fair to keep that in mind, too, unless you don't believe in those boundaries... or if you truly just feel like skateboarding has been that radically accepting of those other than white men that it defies them. In which case... agree to disagree.
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Say that again in 3 sentences max and maybe I’ll read it.
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Apparently it’s monumental enough that a black woman would ever skateboard that we should not measure her against other female skaters (or I guess black male skaters ability to excel regardless of societal disadvantages)  bc that would do a disservice to the groundbreaking work she is doing by just being sponsored

Thanks! And what a dumb take. Someone’s tripping..


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Re: Beatrice Domond pro for FA very soon
« Reply #1539 on: July 20, 2023, 10:44:52 AM »
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Also, from what I understand she doesn't have a full part in this Keepsake vid, just clips... that's gonna go over so well here I'm sure hahaha
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someone better tell Beatrice
https://twitter.com/Beatrice_Domond/status/1676335405791162369


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Okay I promise I’ll shut up until it’s out.. but I just want to bump this post.  She says she has a part in Keepsake, some sources are saying otherwise.  If she has a minute or less footage, does that count as a part?  Does she deserve to be called out for claiming it one?

Also, her saying it’s “the first of many” opens up a whole new discussion.. no skater knows how long they’ll be on the board, so it’s a tad presumptuous at best.  And what if that turns out to be untrue and she doesn’t drastically increase her productivity?  Does she deserve to be called out for that?

This isn’t about her skill level, but at what point does it become justified to critique someone for making potentially false claims?  Or is that perpetually regarded as hating or pocket checking?
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I'm not the most reputable source, as I can't even find the Instagram post I remember seeing AND it wasn't crystal clear even from that post if her part is "full" or not. But I'll try to answer your questions. My apologies if this is too annoying or dense for some of you guys, but it will be my last post in this thread (I mean it this time. Shit's been bad for my health lol).

I'd say that if her clips don't live up to certain standards, it's fair enough to call her naive to some unrwitten rules in skateboarding. I would rightly expect many to hesitate to call her footage a "part" if it amounts to less than a minute of screen time. Although, I also think it's more than fair to mind that these standards have had decades to develop, and that men have had decades to progress to a point where they can live up to them. Black women have not had a real solid opportunity to catch up yet, as their participation is relatively new and currently limited in number... A fair point to acknowledge, yes?

If it then later turns out that she doesn't live up to her claim of putting out many more parts in the future, I think it'd be fair to critique the fact that she didn't back that big claim up. No doubt about it! Yet, I ALSO think it would be fair to acknowledge the fact that Beatrice ever being in a position to put out widely seen parts is noteworthy and progressive for skateboarding. This is clear when considering the current and historic lack of representation for black women in the industry, mentioned earlier. Justified claim?

You see, I think there have been plenty of critiques treated with fairness in this thread. The refusal by some to recognize any kind of significance in her career is what's unfair, in my opinion... I'll add that I also think it's unfair to attack a person's character when they get defensive online after being harassed across platforms, despite their being some fair critiques of particular comments (iphone screen).

But wait, why I think that it doesnt do justice to future female/black female skaters to claim that she's setting the bar too low for them, right? And how it's unfair/reductive to past and present minority skaters to claim that skateboarding is post racial and purely colorblind? Doesn't that take away from their achievements by retroactively erasing very real barriers created by the white majority in America that are bigger than skateboarding and affect even the most progressive spaces? I think it's fair to keep that in mind, too, unless you don't believe in those boundaries... or if you truly just feel like skateboarding has been that radically accepting of those other than white men that it defies them. In which case... agree to disagree.
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Say that again in 3 sentences max and maybe I’ll read it.
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Apparently it’s monumental enough that a black woman would ever skateboard that we should not measure her against other female skaters (or I guess black male skaters ability to excel regardless of societal disadvantages) bc that would do a disservice to the groundbreaking work she is doing by just being sponsored

Ok, VERY last post. Show me where I said this, anywhere in this post or any prior posts. I'd genuinely like to know if I mistakenly implied that (I do remember writing that I personally think Samarria is more deserving of such a huge career, but my posts are dense and annoying so I don't blame you).

With regards to comparing her to black male skaters who made it despite societal disadvantages, my only argument has been that it's fucking sick they've had such huge impacts despite being excluded for decades. The only comparison I've truly made comes in my last post, where I mentioned that black women are newer to skating and less active in number than men (including black men and other males belonging to minority groups), so the level of skating hasnt quite caught up YET. Again, is that not true? Should it be completely disregarded when making these comparisons, in your opinion? What I'm saying is compare, but compare without ignoring context, or claiming "it's just the skating." That's what I'm trying to do, and in doing so, I can see why there are positives that come with Beatrice having a career in this industry.
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Re: Beatrice Domond pro for FA very soon
« Reply #1540 on: July 20, 2023, 11:03:52 AM »
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Also, from what I understand she doesn't have a full part in this Keepsake vid, just clips... that's gonna go over so well here I'm sure hahaha
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someone better tell Beatrice
https://twitter.com/Beatrice_Domond/status/1676335405791162369


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Okay I promise I’ll shut up until it’s out.. but I just want to bump this post.  She says she has a part in Keepsake, some sources are saying otherwise.  If she has a minute or less footage, does that count as a part?  Does she deserve to be called out for claiming it one?

Also, her saying it’s “the first of many” opens up a whole new discussion.. no skater knows how long they’ll be on the board, so it’s a tad presumptuous at best.  And what if that turns out to be untrue and she doesn’t drastically increase her productivity?  Does she deserve to be called out for that?

This isn’t about her skill level, but at what point does it become justified to critique someone for making potentially false claims?  Or is that perpetually regarded as hating or pocket checking?
[close]

I'm not the most reputable source, as I can't even find the Instagram post I remember seeing AND it wasn't crystal clear even from that post if her part is "full" or not. But I'll try to answer your questions. My apologies if this is too annoying or dense for some of you guys, but it will be my last post in this thread (I mean it this time. Shit's been bad for my health lol).

I'd say that if her clips don't live up to certain standards, it's fair enough to call her naive to some unrwitten rules in skateboarding. I would rightly expect many to hesitate to call her footage a "part" if it amounts to less than a minute of screen time. Although, I also think it's more than fair to mind that these standards have had decades to develop, and that men have had decades to progress to a point where they can live up to them. Black women have not had a real solid opportunity to catch up yet, as their participation is relatively new and currently limited in number... A fair point to acknowledge, yes?

If it then later turns out that she doesn't live up to her claim of putting out many more parts in the future, I think it'd be fair to critique the fact that she didn't back that big claim up. No doubt about it! Yet, I ALSO think it would be fair to acknowledge the fact that Beatrice ever being in a position to put out widely seen parts is noteworthy and progressive for skateboarding. This is clear when considering the current and historic lack of representation for black women in the industry, mentioned earlier. Justified claim?

You see, I think there have been plenty of critiques treated with fairness in this thread. The refusal by some to recognize any kind of significance in her career is what's unfair, in my opinion... I'll add that I also think it's unfair to attack a person's character when they get defensive online after being harassed across platforms, despite their being some fair critiques of particular comments (iphone screen).

But wait, why I think that it doesnt do justice to future female/black female skaters to claim that she's setting the bar too low for them, right? And how it's unfair/reductive to past and present minority skaters to claim that skateboarding is post racial and purely colorblind? Doesn't that take away from their achievements by retroactively erasing very real barriers created by the white majority in America that are bigger than skateboarding and affect even the most progressive spaces? I think it's fair to keep that in mind, too, unless you don't believe in those boundaries... or if you truly just feel like skateboarding has been that radically accepting of those other than white men that it defies them. In which case... agree to disagree.
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Say that again in 3 sentences max and maybe I’ll read it.
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Apparently it’s monumental enough that a black woman would ever skateboard that we should not measure her against other female skaters (or I guess black male skaters ability to excel regardless of societal disadvantages) bc that would do a disservice to the groundbreaking work she is doing by just being sponsored
[close]

Ok, VERY last post. Show me where I said this, anywhere in this post or any prior posts. I'd genuinely like to know if I mistakenly implied that (I do remember writing that I personally think Samarria is more deserving of such a huge career, but my posts are dense and annoying so I don't blame you).

With regards to comparing her to black male skaters who made it despite societal disadvantages, my only argument has been that it's fucking sick they've had such huge impacts despite being excluded for decades. The only comparison I've truly made comes in my last post, where I mentioned that black women are newer to skating and less active in number than men (including black men and other males belonging to minority groups), so the level hasnt wuite caught up YET. Again, is that not true? Should it be completely disregarded when making these comparisons, in your opinion? What I'm saying is compare, but compare without ignoring context, or claiming "it's just the skating."

I guess in singling out black women as not having time to catch up implies they are on a different track than other women skaters who have caught up an surpassed her in the time she’s been sponsored.   

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Re: Beatrice Domond pro for FA very soon
« Reply #1541 on: July 20, 2023, 11:07:25 AM »
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Just left the premiere at FA in Hollywood. Haters are going to be fuming
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Re: Beatrice Domond pro for FA very soon
« Reply #1542 on: July 20, 2023, 11:10:14 AM »

Ok, VERY last post. Show me where I said this, anywhere in this post or any prior posts. I'd genuinely like to know if I mistakenly implied that (I do remember writing that I personally think Samarria is more deserving of such a huge career, but my posts are dense and annoying so I don't blame you).

With regards to comparing her to black male skaters who made it despite societal disadvantages, my only argument has been that it's fucking sick they've had such huge impacts despite being excluded for decades. The only comparison I've truly made comes in my last post, where I mentioned that black women are newer to skating and less active in number than men (including black men and other males belonging to minority groups), so the level of skating hasnt quite caught up YET. Again, is that not true? Should it be completely disregarded when making these comparisons, in your opinion? What I'm saying is compare, but compare without ignoring context, or claiming "it's just the skating." That's what I'm trying to do, and in doing so, I can see why there are positives that come with Beatrice having a career in this industry.

Place your bets. Is this the "VERY last" post? I have a sneaking suspicion the White Knight isn't through.


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Re: Beatrice Domond pro for FA very soon
« Reply #1543 on: July 20, 2023, 11:10:23 AM »

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Re: Beatrice Domond pro for FA very soon
« Reply #1544 on: July 20, 2023, 11:13:03 AM »
Dudes here treating black women like they are poor babys in the jungle of lions... treating them like they are inferior and needs to someone like Beatrice to get hyped and skating. 

This thread already has full of exemples of many Black woman rockin even more than Beatrice. From Arin to Victoria and next to many others.
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Re: Beatrice Domond pro for FA very soon
« Reply #1545 on: July 20, 2023, 11:14:40 AM »
Can we all give Adrianne Sloboh her 💐 now? She absolutely kills it, and she played college hoops.
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Re: Beatrice Domond pro for FA very soon
« Reply #1546 on: July 20, 2023, 11:15:17 AM »
@Atiba Applebum  And so? Black women are on a slightly different track than both black men and white women, one that started later. I think if you know skating and you don't lie to yourself, you know it's male dominated AND white dominated. It's been something that is still not accepted/embraced in black communities in the same way or to the same extent as in the white community, and is definitely more normalized amongst males than females even today. So black women experience A) being a woman in a male dominated activity AND B) being a minority in a white dominated activity. This experience, if you agree to this logic, results in fewer of them participating and therefore fewer progressing than black men or white women. This is true despite black men overcoming their own set of hurdles placed before them in order to achieve success in a white dominated activity. It's also true despite white women doing the same in a male dominated activity. I think we should be mindful of this when we criticize or make comparisons between black female skaters and any other skater. With time and support, it'll be less of a factor.

I hate to make it out to be some kind of discrimination Olympics and I'm not trying to compare struggles in order to devalue others. In fact I was a bit bummed to see the lack of solidarity coming from some posters here who've no doubt dealt with discrimination in life and in skateboarding.

I'm also not trying to "single out black women" as being lesser than in the way that you're implying. I'm trying to explain that they've been outside of skating for significantly longer than other demographics and it's sick that that's beginning to come to an end, 5050 front shuvs and short parts or not. I am saying that when we critique and when we compare, we can't ignore reality/history. And, if we really want the best for a new demographic in skateboarding, we won't attempt to use our criticisms to tear them down or ridicule them and the companies that have finally decided to support them.

With Beatrice new doors are opening to black women who are pushing the level of skating for their demographic, and that's something I've seen few people acknowledge here (again, respect @camel filters for doing so after I was an absolute shit head to you). This is an ENTIRELY different claim than saying Beatrice is the best black female skater, or that she's above all comparison or criticism, which seems to be the claim you and others  are arguing against. I've already acknowledged other black female skaters who I think are more technically skilled and who have met more industry requirements as deserving of more recognition in skateboarding, I just fail to see how Beatrice's visibility takes away from them in any way. And thanks to those of you who can actually name examples of other black girls who are ripping rather than just critique Beatrice.

And I am truly sorry I keep posting in here, I hate it probably more than you guys.

*heavily edited for clarity, sorry for the rambling. Genuinely.
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Re: Beatrice Domond pro for FA very soon
« Reply #1547 on: July 20, 2023, 11:27:02 AM »
Right on, Urtripping!
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Re: Beatrice Domond pro for FA very soon
« Reply #1548 on: July 20, 2023, 11:32:36 AM »
 Dawg, you've been given thoughtful rebuttals to your antics by a woman AND a visible minority, and you straight up told them that their opinions were wrong and continued arguing. I think that says everything that we need to know your headspace with all of this.

 Just fuckin' DON'T REPLY, it really isn't that difficult chief. I say that for your health.

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Re: Beatrice Domond pro for FA very soon
« Reply #1549 on: July 20, 2023, 11:46:54 AM »
*Vans rep in danny devito voice*

so anyway I just started sponsoring

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Re: Beatrice Domond pro for FA very soon
« Reply #1550 on: July 20, 2023, 11:54:50 AM »
@Urtripping I think we have the same hope for skating but I really don't like how the companies are going about it. I just don't like when people who don't give a shit about female skating scold people who are confused by this poor marketing. Meanwhile they don't put any effort into seeking out and supporting women poc skaters other than Beatrice. I think it's time we expand and it seems it will have to happen on the grass roots level.

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Re: Beatrice Domond pro for FA very soon
« Reply #1551 on: July 20, 2023, 11:55:11 AM »
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Re: Beatrice Domond pro for FA very soon
« Reply #1552 on: July 20, 2023, 11:57:05 AM »
*Vans rep in danny devito voice*

so anyway I just started sponsoring

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Re: Beatrice Domond pro for FA very soon
« Reply #1553 on: July 20, 2023, 11:57:10 AM »
Can we all give Adrianne Sloboh her 💐 now? She absolutely kills it, and she played college hoops.
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Re: Beatrice Domond pro for FA very soon
« Reply #1554 on: July 20, 2023, 12:00:31 PM »
@Urtripping I think we have the same hope for skating but I really don't like how the companies are going about it. I just don't like when people who don't give a shit about female skating scold people who are confused by this poor marketing. Meanwhile they don't put any effort into seeking out and supporting women poc skaters other than Beatrice. I think it's time we expand and it seems it will have to happen on the grass roots level.

I hear you. I hate that I was scolding people because that's not my intention, but I do get worked up because I also actually give a shit. I know skate companies are doing the bare minimum when it comes to supporting black girls in skating, so that's why I just can't be mad at vans doing something. I'd rather support that effort than try to drag it down, i think it does more good than bad. I know people don't agree, but that's ok.
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Re: Beatrice Domond pro for FA very soon
« Reply #1555 on: July 20, 2023, 12:02:57 PM »
The bozos in here acting like Beatrice is some kind of Stepin Fetchit are the real problem. Get shit to do, you fucking cornballs. Urtripping has dismantled all of your paper-thin arguments with facts and logic. He doesn't have to say another thing.
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Re: Beatrice Domond pro for FA very soon
« Reply #1556 on: July 20, 2023, 12:04:35 PM »
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@Urtripping I think we have the same hope for skating but I really don't like how the companies are going about it. I just don't like when people who don't give a shit about female skating scold people who are confused by this poor marketing. Meanwhile they don't put any effort into seeking out and supporting women poc skaters other than Beatrice. I think it's time we expand and it seems it will have to happen on the grass roots level.
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I hear you. I hate that I was scolding people because that's not my intention, but I do get worked up because I also actually give a shit. I know skate companies are doing the bare minimum when it comes to supporting black girls in skating, so that's why I just can't be mad at vans doing something. I'd rather support that effort than try to drag it down, i think it does more good than bad. I know people don't agree, but that's ok.
Word. 4 shoes just seems overkill tho. Especially cause they seem to put zero effort into making her look awesome. Actual friends who skate together actually suggest interesting spots and tricks to display the best parts of someone's skating. Vans posted another 50 shove knowing it will cause drama and hate. I know its expected of a corp but its still gross.

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Re: Beatrice Domond pro for FA very soon
« Reply #1557 on: July 20, 2023, 12:11:01 PM »


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Re: Beatrice Domond pro for FA very soon
« Reply #1558 on: July 20, 2023, 12:13:58 PM »
I just think she sucks
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Re: Beatrice Domond pro for FA very soon
« Reply #1559 on: July 20, 2023, 12:22:27 PM »
The bozos in here acting like Beatrice is some kind of Stepin Fetchit are the real problem. Get shit to do, you fucking cornballs. Urtripping has dismantled all of your paper-thin arguments with facts and logic. He doesn't have to say another thing.

No he hasn't. Only a couple of voices in here even matter and they hold more weight than a stereotypical males opinion.
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