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I think you have to distinguish between shoes for their respective eras. The modern day Vans skate line seems to be an improvement, but in your response you are comparing them to shoes that no longer exist. I didn't like most of those Emerica shoes from that era because they were too thick for my preferences. Vans was also super flimsy and often made poorly during that era.
Anyways, they were referencing the current Emerica line. I tried on the KSL and laughed out loud. I've tried a lot of shoes recently and its clearly stuck in the prior generation. The G6 is squishy, but the midsole is thick and puffy and just doesn't compare to the board feel you can get from a lot of modern cups. Seeing others' shoes the build quality is clearly lacking. The upper lacing eyelet stitching seems to come apart and the durability isn't there.
But that's just opinions.
Bro you can't put on a remade cupsole from 2004 and compare it to newer shoes of today.
Even then you had to walk around in the shoes for a few hours to break them in.
"I can't believe these shoes I just tried on arent perfect broken in to my individual preferences, this is simply laughable"
As if they're aren't millions of people walking around in dunks, Jordans, forums, rb classics, nb bb550. All shoes that are "dated" and have been out for decades. I don't understand skaters where we have to have the brand new thing all the time. Shoes can be timeless.
And you are right you can't compare shoes from 2004 to ones now...because what is out now doesn't hold a candle to what was being produced back then.
Regarding the KSL:
I've got 2 friends that have skated them and thought the same. Wear tested review also felt the same. Slap posters that have worn them also agreed on the bulk, boardfeel and thickness. I've worn Emericas in the 2010's, they felt like a moderately updated version of those. I think that design ethos is dated.
Given I can try on a shoe from any other brand and get a rough idea if they can work since I've worn shoes for 37 years or so, why would I afford these the benefit of the doubt and spend $100 hoping they transform at a magical rate that no other shoe I have put on my foot has?
The shoes you listed are mostly thin-ish cups. For chilling I don't care- I've got 990 series and Jordans and don't mind. Jordans are thinner and better fitting for me than the KSL and have great boardfeel. Same with Reebok Classics, which I've skated dozens of times since the late 1990's. Those designs haven't changed because they don't need to and fortunately they still work for many. They don't have a fat fucking foam midsole and most that you listed have thinner tongues and less stack height.
In terms of age I was talking about skate shoes designed by brands that have shoes designed specifically for skating.
Jesus Christ, people are entitled to not liking something even if it doesn't agree with your logic or preferences.