Bones X-Formula will be 97a and released Spring 2023

[skatebruh]

I've got a Spitfire tattoo that I covered with a Bones tattoo when STFs came out. And then I covered that tattoo with a Spitfire tattoo when Formula 4s came out. And now I gotta cover that tattoo with another Bones tattoo. When will it end?

[Creachteach]

I've got a Spitfire tattoo that I covered with a Bones tattoo when STFs came out. And then I covered that tattoo with a Spitfire tattoo when Formula 4s came out. And now I gotta cover that tattoo with another Bones tattoo. When will it end?

If you did, you would have taken a photo every time. Please post them.

I’m a place in my life where I want to wear as little logo stuff as possible. I mean sure we shoot the shit about wheels and boards at the mini ramp, but I don’t really care about any brand enough that I want to label my body with their logo or likeness… without getting paid. And as a beginner in his 30’s I don’t ever expect that to happen.

[Zyth]

I've got a Spitfire tattoo that I covered with a Bones tattoo when STFs came out. And then I covered that tattoo with a Spitfire tattoo when Formula 4s came out. And now I gotta cover that tattoo with another Bones tattoo. When will it end?

lmao

[GT]

Also what are these trucks?

[Zyth]

Also what are these trucks?

powell prototypes

[Daydream]

Yeah been discussed and screenshotted in another thread - wheels thread

[Roisto]

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So I've ridden the X99 at all of my usual spots now.

The only place I didn't flat out love them was the indoor park.  The place has a Berrics level smooth floor. That coupled with how these wheels handle rough ground they just felt like you were riding on air. It made them feel slow even though they weren't. It didn't affect how they actually performed though. All my tricks worked and I had a great session. It just felt strange for a bit until I got used to them.

Everywhere else from crusty streets to an outdoor concrete park these wheels felt and performed perfectly.

These edge out F4 99a as my all around wheel of choice now. While I definitely prefer the F4 at the smooth indoor park I skate there the least. Plus I got used to the feeling after a bit so if I want to skate that setup there the wheels are no issue.
 
These out perform F4 99a and 97a significantly on crusty ground. Are equal to F4 99a on smoother surfaces and absolutely demolish F4 97a on smoother surfaces.  Bones really has a winner here.

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Damn. That sounds really good. Do I really have to buy Bones wheels now? I really wouldn’t want to. 

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If the product fits your needs who cares who makes it?

Yeah. That’s how it should go. I’ve never enjoyed any Bones products except the Swiss bearings. I think the branding sucks. I don’t care for their team either. But indeed if the product is good enough I’m willing to overlook those things. I remember when they came out with the Easy Streets wheels some years ago there was a bunch of hype for those and I absolutely hated the wheels. Most unpredictable pieces of shits I’ve ever had. That also left a sour taste in my mouth. Still I guess I’ll give the X-formula and the Powell Dragon wheels a try at some point.

I’m not a big fan of the Spitfire branding either and the 80HD wheels were the biggest piece of shit cruiser wheels I’ve had. But other than those two things I love the brand and Formula Fours are such amazing wheels IMO that I haven’t even considered skating anything else for years.

[rikki]

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So I've ridden the X99 at all of my usual spots now.

The only place I didn't flat out love them was the indoor park.  The place has a Berrics level smooth floor. That coupled with how these wheels handle rough ground they just felt like you were riding on air. It made them feel slow even though they weren't. It didn't affect how they actually performed though. All my tricks worked and I had a great session. It just felt strange for a bit until I got used to them.

Everywhere else from crusty streets to an outdoor concrete park these wheels felt and performed perfectly.

These edge out F4 99a as my all around wheel of choice now. While I definitely prefer the F4 at the smooth indoor park I skate there the least. Plus I got used to the feeling after a bit so if I want to skate that setup there the wheels are no issue.
 
These out perform F4 99a and 97a significantly on crusty ground. Are equal to F4 99a on smoother surfaces and absolutely demolish F4 97a on smoother surfaces.  Bones really has a winner here.

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Damn. That sounds really good. Do I really have to buy Bones wheels now? I really wouldn’t want to. 

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If the product fits your needs who cares who makes it?

Exactly, and it's not like Bones wheels are made in China.

[Fartknocker415]

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I've got a Spitfire tattoo that I covered with a Bones tattoo when STFs came out. And then I covered that tattoo with a Spitfire tattoo when Formula 4s came out. And now I gotta cover that tattoo with another Bones tattoo. When will it end?

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If you did, you would have taken a photo every time. Please post them.

I’m a place in my life where I want to wear as little logo stuff as possible. I mean sure we shoot the shit about wheels and boards at the mini ramp, but I don’t really care about any brand enough that I want to label my body with their logo or likeness… without getting paid. And as a beginner in his 30’s I don’t ever expect that to happen.

Sick brah

[Skatebrain]

I’m going to give the 99s a go.   The 97 didn’t act like a brake on my local flat bar like the dragons did, but did drag a bit.   

[Musicaldeath107]

So I've ridden the X99 at all of my usual spots now.

The only place I didn't flat out love them was the indoor park.  The place has a Berrics level smooth floor. That coupled with how these wheels handle rough ground they just felt like you were riding on air. It made them feel slow even though they weren't. It didn't affect how they actually performed though. All my tricks worked and I had a great session. It just felt strange for a bit until I got used to them.

Everywhere else from crusty streets to an outdoor concrete park these wheels felt and performed perfectly.

These edge out F4 99a as my all around wheel of choice now. While I definitely prefer the F4 at the smooth indoor park I skate there the least. Plus I got used to the feeling after a bit so if I want to skate that setup there the wheels are no issue.
 
These out perform F4 99a and 97a significantly on crusty ground. Are equal to F4 99a on smoother surfaces and absolutely demolish F4 97a on smoother surfaces.  Bones really has a winner here.

One thing that could get me back on F4s is something I can't test until winter. I've noticed that F4s are the most consistent wheels when it's freezing out.  Several wheels I've tried are noticeable slower when it's really cold out, especially stuff from Creative.  Hopefully the X99s stay consistent across temps

[Creachteach]

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I've got a Spitfire tattoo that I covered with a Bones tattoo when STFs came out. And then I covered that tattoo with a Spitfire tattoo when Formula 4s came out. And now I gotta cover that tattoo with another Bones tattoo. When will it end?

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If you did, you would have taken a photo every time. Please post them.

I’m a place in my life where I want to wear as little logo stuff as possible. I mean sure we shoot the shit about wheels and boards at the mini ramp, but I don’t really care about any brand enough that I want to label my body with their logo or likeness… without getting paid. And as a beginner in his 30’s I don’t ever expect that to happen.

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Sick brah

Yeah, I know no one asked. On the bright side now you know that logos are basically just advertising shit for free.

[Creachteach]

For reference:

These are the new whiter X-graphic X97 next to STF 99A.

Both are V6 shape and X97 is 56 and STF is 54.
STF is from this winter, but haven’t seen a ton of use. Or sunlight.

[radcunt]

Also what are these trucks?

Im into these for my shaped set ups, love the style of mini cubics but with a more realistic shape. Will rule on the Beamer.

[JimmyFive]

Totally. These are the ultimate old dude shaped deck/cruiser wheels. I've always been drawn to the shape of the cubics too - these are more practical. The X97 formula is superb too. The older guys at the park riding && decks will be stoked to see these!

[j....soy.....]

They are a Barrier Kult reference…..

[munchbox]

so whats the verdict on x97 vs x99
especially if you are familiar with f4 99a

[rocklobster]

I've got a Spitfire tattoo that I covered with a Bones tattoo when STFs came out. And then I covered that tattoo with a Spitfire tattoo when Formula 4s came out. And now I gotta cover that tattoo with another Bones tattoo. When will it end?

Get a Ricta and OJ one to cancel out the Spitfire and Bones ones

[tzhangdox]

cross post from wheels thread about those weird andy anderson wheels:

Tried my set of sample andy anderson nano cubics today. They're cool, probably not gamechanging if you're not doing weird freestyle stuff though.

The bearing set offset is crazy it makes your trucks like a full size bigger. My thunder 149s looked like 151s. Great for cross pinching on round bars and chunky ledges, but honestly felt like too much truck room for a lot of tricks. You could probably down size your truck an entire size and then it would line up perfectly. I also wonder if the bearing seat offset would maybe put more stress on your bearings somehow.... hopefully not idk

Shape is nice, classic outside makes climbing onto hard slappies maybe a lil easier and inside locks well but I don't think its gamechanging at all.

97a formula is good its a harder dragon. But they seem to be a bit grippier when new, I think it will slowly wear in over the first few sessions or so but thats kind of annoying out the gate. Definitely still drag on grinds and slides compared to f4s, especially on metal and some other surfaces. Was doing some blunt/noseblunt tricks on this one box, and I had to keep waxing it every couple tries but it was going perfectly on my friends setup with f4s without nearly as much wax.

Still doesn't feel anything like a formula four which is the most satisfying sounding and feeling wheel to me, as long as the ground is decent.

I already have another setup with dragons on it for when I'm tired/sore and want to push less/have a smoother ride. In those cases I might as well just run 93s instead of this 97 middle ground. And f4s on my main setup which to me feels and sounds like a 'real skateboard'.

I can see some people being really hyped on these. But the part of me that cares about aesthetics just cant deal with them so I've listed them in the classifieds section if any of you are interested lol

[rikki]

Should probably post this straight to the Buyers' remorse thread, but anyway, tried the X97s on for the first time today, on rough asphalt and shitty, worn concrete. Boy, they pretty much felt like shit. They felt slow with no really noticeable improvement on crust handling compared to "normal" hard wheels (eg. F4 99). Powerslide was ok, but having said that, Dragons slide much better on rough asphalt.

As per rough terrain in general, gonna go back to Dragons instantly. To summarize, sadly I don't see any use for the X97s really – F4 99s will probably work just as good or even better if the ground isn't SUPER crusty.

[Samsquantch]

Should probably post this straight to the Buyers' remorse thread, but anyway, tried the X97s on for the first time today, on rough asphalt and shitty, worn concrete. Boy, they pretty much felt like shit. They felt slow with no really noticeable improvement on crust handling compared to "normal" hard wheels (eg. F4 99). Powerslide was ok, but having said that, Dragons slide much better on rough asphalt.

As per rough terrain in general, gonna go back to Dragons instantly. To summarize, sadly I don't see any use for the X97s really – F4 99s will probably work just as good or even better if the ground isn't SUPER crusty.

Not trying to be contrarian or anything, your opinion is totally valid, but I've gotta say that it definitely doesn't match mine.

I actually brought both setups out yesterday, 56mm 99a F4 Conical full's (prob down to 54-ish) and 54 X97 V6 (broken in but not as worn). At the park and on fairly smooth transition there's not much of a difference for holding speed, but I'll give F4's the edge. I could happily only skate the X97's here, but given the choice I prefer the harder feel of the spits, especially on coping. The X97's are way quieter, more rubbery, more like Dragons. Grip and slide were fine on both, predictable.

On the way home I stopped at a redeveloped area a buddy had told me about, hipster yuppie apartments and shops by the university. There's a big park "commons" area with a mix of asphalt, bricks, cobbles, slabs, tiles. Grabbed the F4 equipped board first and it was almost embarrassing how loud I was clattering through there, echoing off buildings. Spits were harsh af. Ok on the asphalt but I'd forgotten how brutal they were on cobbles. Cruised through again on the X97's and what a difference, much smoother, faster, and way quieter.

I'll keep skating 99a F4's at the park, but will be grabbing the X97's for street skating going forward. One thing to mention is that I'm 40, and try to be considerate of others using public spaces. There were families hanging out with kids and I felt like a douche clattering through there on the spits disturbing their lunches, the X97's were much more reasonable. I'll probably head back there with the Dragons this week and try them too. Lots of good ledges and small stair sets.

[boneless900]

https://www.skateone.com/powell-peralta-andy-anderson-nano-cubic-dragon-formula-skateboard-wheels-52mm-x-36mm-97a-4pk

Saw that the nano cubes got listed. 36mm width is pretty nuts considering they're only 52mm. I hope the drag on slides/grinds is x97 level (not great but serviceable and better than the 93a dragons)

I'm torn between these and the v1 x99s but I have a feeling I'll try out these nano cubics bc I don't love the outer edge of the v6s I'm currently on

[tzhangdox]

https://www.skateone.com/powell-peralta-andy-anderson-nano-cubic-dragon-formula-skateboard-wheels-52mm-x-36mm-97a-4pk

Saw that the nano cubes got listed. 36mm ride patch is pretty nuts considering they're only 52mm. I hope the drag on slides/grinds is x97 level (not great but serviceable and better than the 93a dragons)

I'm torn between these and the v1 x99s but I have a feeling I'll try out these nano cubics bc I don't love the outer edge of the v6s I'm currently on

I'm selling a set of 54mm samples in the classifieds if you're interested

[Samsquantch]

https://www.skateone.com/powell-peralta-andy-anderson-nano-cubic-dragon-formula-skateboard-wheels-52mm-x-36mm-97a-4pk
 I hope the drag on slides/grinds is x97 level (not great but serviceable and better than the 93a dragons

It's the same urethane as X97's

[boneless900]

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https://www.skateone.com/powell-peralta-andy-anderson-nano-cubic-dragon-formula-skateboard-wheels-52mm-x-36mm-97a-4pk
 I hope the drag on slides/grinds is x97 level (not great but serviceable and better than the 93a dragons

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It's the same urethane as X97's

Awesome, really appreciate the knowledge. Leaning towards these bc the cubic shape is pretty hilarious looking. Im still waiting to hear more feedback about the x99s before id snag these tho

@tzhangdox thanks for the heads up but I think I'm pretty set on the 52mm size wheel

[Xen]

so whats the verdict on x97 vs x99
especially if you are familiar with f4 99a

x99>x97/spit 99a (for me)

x99 literally work everywhere spit 99s do with no downsides, and everywhere they don't.

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Should probably post this straight to the Buyers' remorse thread, but anyway, tried the X97s on for the first time today, on rough asphalt and shitty, worn concrete. Boy, they pretty much felt like shit. They felt slow with no really noticeable improvement on crust handling compared to "normal" hard wheels (eg. F4 99). Powerslide was ok, but having said that, Dragons slide much better on rough asphalt.

As per rough terrain in general, gonna go back to Dragons instantly. To summarize, sadly I don't see any use for the X97s really – F4 99s will probably work just as good or even better if the ground isn't SUPER crusty.

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Not trying to be contrarian or anything, your opinion is totally valid, but I've gotta say that it definitely doesn't match mine.

Nor mine, that post is straight BS, especially given his dragons experience.

To say the x97s don't handle crust better than spit 99s...or ANY 99s other than the x99 is complete and utter, uneducated BS'.

The amount of speed you lose on 99s, ANY 99s, on real crust, compared to the 97s is crazy.

Anyone that's ridden them on real crust will tell you this...if you don't think they worked better you really weren't skating crust, son.

Honestly, I don't think people understand the dragons/x97s at all, you don't buy them to ride them where you can easily ride a regular fucking 99 or 101, that includes park...they are not some magical wheel that works everywhere, they are made for where those wheels would never work/be a fucking chore to skate. If you are skating them on smooth surfaces you are sacrificing speed plain and simple (but they still work).

[tzhangdox]

Ya as much as I've complained about certain grinds/slides being more difficult with dragons/bones x formula on this forum over the past almost one year... all of them handle shitty ground better than 99a f4s (which are still my fav wheels nonetheless... haven't tried x99s)

[Creachteach]

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so whats the verdict on x97 vs x99
especially if you are familiar with f4 99a

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x99>x97/spit 99a (for me)

x99 literally work everywhere spit 99s do with no downsides, and everywhere they don't.

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Should probably post this straight to the Buyers' remorse thread, but anyway, tried the X97s on for the first time today, on rough asphalt and shitty, worn concrete. Boy, they pretty much felt like shit. They felt slow with no really noticeable improvement on crust handling compared to "normal" hard wheels (eg. F4 99). Powerslide was ok, but having said that, Dragons slide much better on rough asphalt.

As per rough terrain in general, gonna go back to Dragons instantly. To summarize, sadly I don't see any use for the X97s really – F4 99s will probably work just as good or even better if the ground isn't SUPER crusty.

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Not trying to be contrarian or anything, your opinion is totally valid, but I've gotta say that it definitely doesn't match mine.

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Nor mine, that post is straight BS, especially given his dragons experience.

To say the x97s don't handle crust better than spit 99s...or ANY 99s other than the x99 is complete and utter, uneducated BS'.

The amount of speed you lose on 99s, ANY 99s, on real crust, compared to the 97s is crazy.

Anyone that's ridden them on real crust will tell you this...if you don't think they worked better you really weren't skating crust, son.

Honestly, I don't think people understand the dragons/x97s at all, you don't buy them to ride them where you can easily ride a regular fucking 99 or 101, that includes park...they are not some magical wheel that works everywhere, they are made for where those wheels would never work/be a fucking chore to skate. If you are skating them on smooth surfaces you are sacrificing speed plain and simple (but they still work).

I’ve skated my 56mm X97 V6 for about two hours, and they’re practically still brand new. They’re starting to bark a little on reverts on smooth concrete which is nice.

I push to and fro our indoor on pretty rough asphalt and worn cement cobbles. And my experience skating these over my 57mm F4 99a Radials is night and day. These glide on crusty stuff in comparison.
On the smooth indoor concrete floors they’re awkwardly quiet, but I can deal with that.
In the wooden mini ramp, they’re just what I wanted. More grip for sure. On F4s I would sometimes slip out on a kick turn.
This is, for me, the best skate wheel. We’ll see if they harden up and get slippery on the wood when winter comes back around.
If I were to go street skating I’m confident this is the wheel to bring. Not counting a cruiser, I could see myself be a one-setup kinda guy now these exist.

[Samsquantch]

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so whats the verdict on x97 vs x99
especially if you are familiar with f4 99a

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x99>x97/spit 99a (for me)

x99 literally work everywhere spit 99s do with no downsides, and everywhere they don't.

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Should probably post this straight to the Buyers' remorse thread, but anyway, tried the X97s on for the first time today, on rough asphalt and shitty, worn concrete. Boy, they pretty much felt like shit. They felt slow with no really noticeable improvement on crust handling compared to "normal" hard wheels (eg. F4 99). Powerslide was ok, but having said that, Dragons slide much better on rough asphalt.

As per rough terrain in general, gonna go back to Dragons instantly. To summarize, sadly I don't see any use for the X97s really – F4 99s will probably work just as good or even better if the ground isn't SUPER crusty.

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Not trying to be contrarian or anything, your opinion is totally valid, but I've gotta say that it definitely doesn't match mine.

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Nor mine, that post is straight BS, especially given his dragons experience.

To say the x97s don't handle crust better than spit 99s...or ANY 99s other than the x99 is complete and utter, uneducated BS'.

The amount of speed you lose on 99s, ANY 99s, on real crust, compared to the 97s is crazy.

Anyone that's ridden them on real crust will tell you this...if you don't think they worked better you really weren't skating crust, son.

Honestly, I don't think people understand the dragons/x97s at all, you don't buy them to ride them where you can easily ride a regular fucking 99 or 101, that includes park...they are not some magical wheel that works everywhere, they are made for where those wheels would never work/be a fucking chore to skate. If you are skating them on smooth surfaces you are sacrificing speed plain and simple (but they still work).

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I’ve skated my 56mm X97 V6 for about two hours, and they’re practically still brand new. They’re starting to bark a little on reverts on smooth concrete which is nice.

I push to and fro our indoor on pretty rough asphalt and worn cement cobbles. And my experience skating these over my 57mm F4 99a Radials is night and day. These glide on crusty stuff in comparison.
On the smooth indoor concrete floors they’re awkwardly quiet, but I can deal with that.
In the wooden mini ramp, they’re just what I wanted. More grip for sure. On F4s I would sometimes slip out on a kick turn.
This is, for me, the best skate wheel. We’ll see if they harden up and get slippery on the wood when winter comes back around.
If I were to go street skating I’m confident this is the wheel to bring. Not counting a cruiser, I could see myself be a one-setup kinda guy now these exist.

Agreed, if I was only allowed one set of wheels period, it'd be the X97's. 99a F4's are miserable to cruise with, where I've actually taken my X97 board to walk the dog and enjoyed it. They're *almost* as good at the park, but I just love the feel of F4's enough to not totally say screw it and ditch them.

Do you find they collect dust at the indoor? Mine sure did last winter, made them a hazard on the skatelite ramp.

I don't know wtf is up with Powell/Bones distribution in Canada, but the X99's still aren't here. They're in Europe ffs but not Canada. I even bought some Swiss 6's for the first time to go in them.

[Xen]

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so whats the verdict on x97 vs x99
especially if you are familiar with f4 99a

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x99>x97/spit 99a (for me)

x99 literally work everywhere spit 99s do with no downsides, and everywhere they don't.

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Should probably post this straight to the Buyers' remorse thread, but anyway, tried the X97s on for the first time today, on rough asphalt and shitty, worn concrete. Boy, they pretty much felt like shit. They felt slow with no really noticeable improvement on crust handling compared to "normal" hard wheels (eg. F4 99). Powerslide was ok, but having said that, Dragons slide much better on rough asphalt.

As per rough terrain in general, gonna go back to Dragons instantly. To summarize, sadly I don't see any use for the X97s really – F4 99s will probably work just as good or even better if the ground isn't SUPER crusty.

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Not trying to be contrarian or anything, your opinion is totally valid, but I've gotta say that it definitely doesn't match mine.

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Nor mine, that post is straight BS, especially given his dragons experience.

To say the x97s don't handle crust better than spit 99s...or ANY 99s other than the x99 is complete and utter, uneducated BS'.

The amount of speed you lose on 99s, ANY 99s, on real crust, compared to the 97s is crazy.

Anyone that's ridden them on real crust will tell you this...if you don't think they worked better you really weren't skating crust, son.

Honestly, I don't think people understand the dragons/x97s at all, you don't buy them to ride them where you can easily ride a regular fucking 99 or 101, that includes park...they are not some magical wheel that works everywhere, they are made for where those wheels would never work/be a fucking chore to skate. If you are skating them on smooth surfaces you are sacrificing speed plain and simple (but they still work).

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I’ve skated my 56mm X97 V6 for about two hours, and they’re practically still brand new. They’re starting to bark a little on reverts on smooth concrete which is nice.

I push to and fro our indoor on pretty rough asphalt and worn cement cobbles. And my experience skating these over my 57mm F4 99a Radials is night and day. These glide on crusty stuff in comparison.
On the smooth indoor concrete floors they’re awkwardly quiet, but I can deal with that.
In the wooden mini ramp, they’re just what I wanted. More grip for sure. On F4s I would sometimes slip out on a kick turn.
This is, for me, the best skate wheel. We’ll see if they harden up and get slippery on the wood when winter comes back around.
If I were to go street skating I’m confident this is the wheel to bring. Not counting a cruiser, I could see myself be a one-setup kinda guy now these exist.

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Agreed, if I was only allowed one set of wheels period, it'd be the X97's. 99a F4's are miserable to cruise with, where I've actually taken my X97 board to walk the dog and enjoyed it. They're *almost* as good at the park, but I just love the feel of F4's enough to not totally say screw it and ditch them.

Do you find they collect dust at the indoor? Mine sure did last winter, made them a hazard on the skatelite ramp.

I don't know wtf is up with Powell/Bones distribution in Canada, but the X99's still aren't here. They're in Europe ffs but not Canada. I even bought some Swiss 6's for the first time to go in them.

Got my x99s rolling with Swiss 6 - so fricken good. I've got wheels/bearings/grip and trucks/bushings on lock, but the deck search continues. The x99s are truly that good; crazy what 2 duro can do with any wheel.