Bones X-Formula will be 97a and released Spring 2023

[Creachteach]

I like the V5 shape but the V1 feel too narrow for me. The X99 in a Radial shape would be my ideal asphalt wheel. I like the compound but my F4 99 Radials feel just as fast and I can put up with the roughness to not have to swap for the park.

As someone who didn't enjoy dragons and was meh on the X97, the 99 is as close to ideal in this type of formula and they're really good wheels

Is V5’s not just side-cut V1’s?
Patches match size to size.

I’m holding out for some X97-X99 V4 or V6 52mm for a setup I want to try.
I’m kinda bummed they don’t make small diameter (center-set) wide wheels of the new formulas as of yet.
Better not hold my breath.

[tzhangdox]

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I like the V5 shape but the V1 feel too narrow for me. The X99 in a Radial shape would be my ideal asphalt wheel. I like the compound but my F4 99 Radials feel just as fast and I can put up with the roughness to not have to swap for the park.

As someone who didn't enjoy dragons and was meh on the X97, the 99 is as close to ideal in this type of formula and they're really good wheels

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Is V5’s not just side-cut V1’s?
Patches match size to size.

I’m holding out for some X97-X99 V4 or V6 52mm for a setup I want to try.
I’m kinda bummed they don’t make small diameter (center-set) wide wheels of the new formulas as of yet.
Better not hold my breath.

I think the v5s are a little wider overall, but pretty slim riding surface like the v1s.

I kind of think of v5s like a very tapered spitfire conical

[Xen]

[rikki]

After a long time on Spitfire shapes the Bones V5 seemed narrow to me at first, but now after being on X97s (really like them) for a while I've grown fond of the shape. Feels light and maneuverable. The normal Spits (apart from smaller Classics) seems bulky after riding V5.

[Mbrimson88]

After a long time on Spitfire shapes the Bones V5 seemed narrow to me at first, but now after being on X97s (really like them) for a while I've grown fond of the shape. Feels light and maneuverable. The normal Spits (apart from smaller Classics) seems bulky after riding V5.

Their V5 seems like the best seller overall, or maybe that is the one they push the most.

I have had V4 and V6 which are more like Classic and Classic Full shapes which I quite enjoy, especially in the bigger sizes, but the V1 and V5 also work well on most terrain for pretty much everyone who does ride Bones as their wheel of choice.

Some of the wheel shapes used to come in bigger sizes, which were wider too, but it seems they are harder to come by now, most only going up to 54 or 56 mm in the wider or rounder profiles.

[DeadSquidMask]

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I’m curious to see a picture of the chunking.

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Same.

I'm guessing a bunk set, trolling or ollies into a trash metal edge with jaggies/shrapnel all over it, as I don't recall anyone complaining about chunking for any of the dragons/x9s.

My 93s/97s dragons and x99s have no chunks, ollies, slappies and heavy abuse.

Can we get some pics my dude?

Yes I will. I need to learn how to post photos. Thanks. I’ll be back. Moving day/weekend so I got sidetracked.

[rocklobster]

Rode a friend's setup with x99 and I was pleasantly surprised T how well they handled rough ground, didn't get any slides I. But he said they felt fast but not icy like 103a.

Would love to see the x99 in a V3 54mm - skinny technical wheel that can handle rougher ground would be a dream.

[Xen]

The V5 is [my] second only to v3 favorite wheel shape, and yeah it makes spit classics feel like giant golf balls after riding them for so long.

I went x99 V1 just to change it up and reduce some weight on a bigger setup.

A x99 V3 would be sick, but I'm not sure it would be worth the cost to make seeing as how it's probably not a big seller and certainly not for this type of urethane.

[boneless900]

I'm probably in the minority here so I doubt there's a market for thid, but I'd like to see the new nano cubics shape in a 54mm and 99x instead of 97x dragon (?, It feels like 97x tbh and slides/feels great). I actually like the overextended round edges for slappies and the slim inside edge gives you a bit more hanger space.

[rikki]

Up in Northern Europe, still no signs of the X99 in shops. Any ideas when it will hit the Euro market?

[commander jameson]

Up in Northern Europe, still no signs of the X99 in shops. Any ideas when it will hit the Euro market?

They been here for some time now, I'm pretty sure that big online shops have X99 available. Titus, Skatedeluxe or BlueTomato all ship to Northern Europe.

[rikki]

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Up in Northern Europe, still no signs of the X99 in shops. Any ideas when it will hit the Euro market?

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They been here for some time now, I'm pretty sure that big online shops have X99 available. Titus, Skatedeluxe or BlueTomato all ship to Northern Europe.

Ah, gotcha, I did a quick search for "X99" but actually seem to be listed with "X-formula" and other similar strings. Upon closer inspection found some on Skatedeluxe and Blue Tomato.

However, as I prefer to support my locals, I'll be happy to wait.

[logjammin]

Anyone here try both the x97 and x99 at a slippery indoor and compare their ability to prevent sliding all over the place? Dragons were my remedy last winter but they are still a little limiting and I'm trying to equip my set-up with something truly all-terrain that can include even a dusty indoor.

[Creachteach]

Anyone here try both the x97 and x99 at a slippery indoor and compare their ability to prevent sliding all over the place? Dragons were my remedy last winter but they are still a little limiting and I'm trying to equip my set-up with something truly all-terrain that can include even a dusty indoor.

I have F499a, STF99 and X97. Spits super icy. STFs are unpredictable. They feel good and grippy on plywood, and then when they gather some dust, can lose traction.

X97, so far, have treated me really good. Don’t have many hours on them yet, but they seem to have enough grip, and don’t gather as much dirt and dust as STF. Also, the only wheel that is possible to ride to/from my indoor.
They’re eerily quiet on smooth concrete floors, but they revert and slide when you need them to. To me,  just a tad more grip in these kinds of situations. It give me more confidence.

[Sombrero]

Anyone here try both the x97 and x99 at a slippery indoor and compare their ability to prevent sliding all over the place? Dragons were my remedy last winter but they are still a little limiting and I'm trying to equip my set-up with something truly all-terrain that can include even a dusty indoor.

TBH, New X99 is LESS slippy than Dragons when they are new. I still have the ridges on one set of Dragons and cess slides can get out of control on transition. You pretty much have 50% or so surface area (contact) while the ridges are present. My X99 are V6 which have a wider ride patch. Zero ice on concrete and skatelite. X99 were smooth and no ridges.

[goodatmeth]

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Anyone here try both the x97 and x99 at a slippery indoor and compare their ability to prevent sliding all over the place? Dragons were my remedy last winter but they are still a little limiting and I'm trying to equip my set-up with something truly all-terrain that can include even a dusty indoor.

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TBH, New X99 is LESS slippy than Dragons when they are new. I still have the ridges on one set of Dragons and cess slides can get out of control on transition. You pretty much have 50% or so surface area (contact) while the ridges are present. My X99 are V6 which have a wider ride patch. Zero ice on concrete and skatelite. X99 were smooth and no ridges.

Are your dragons some older prototypes? I don't think the newer ones have ridges

[Samsquantch]

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Anyone here try both the x97 and x99 at a slippery indoor and compare their ability to prevent sliding all over the place? Dragons were my remedy last winter but they are still a little limiting and I'm trying to equip my set-up with something truly all-terrain that can include even a dusty indoor.

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TBH, New X99 is LESS slippy than Dragons when they are new. I still have the ridges on one set of Dragons and cess slides can get out of control on transition. You pretty much have 50% or so surface area (contact) while the ridges are present. My X99 are V6 which have a wider ride patch. Zero ice on concrete and skatelite. X99 were smooth and no ridges.

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Are your dragons some older prototypes? I don't think the newer ones have ridges

Prob just some older stock. When I bought my set in... June I think? The shop had two sets of 56mm with ridges and two without. I bought smooth ones and haven't found them slippery. Still prefer X97s, but Dragons are great.

[Sombrero]

You're right, I think it was old stock. I got 64mm Dragons and don't remember ridges on my 1st set (which oddly were purchased on 1st day of release) Got the 2nd set from a skateshop and the ridges makes the wheel like banana peels.

[LebowskisRug]

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Anyone here try both the x97 and x99 at a slippery indoor and compare their ability to prevent sliding all over the place? Dragons were my remedy last winter but they are still a little limiting and I'm trying to equip my set-up with something truly all-terrain that can include even a dusty indoor.

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TBH, New X99 is LESS slippy than Dragons when they are new. I still have the ridges on one set of Dragons and cess slides can get out of control on transition. You pretty much have 50% or so surface area (contact) while the ridges are present. My X99 are V6 which have a wider ride patch. Zero ice on concrete and skatelite. X99 were smooth and no ridges.

I've had the same experience with the X99 and they're not getting any more slippery. Sucks as I liked that about the 93 and 97- soft but still slid. Edit this is all on cement and asphalt

V5 shape is great. If that shape was in F4 its all I'd ride.

[logjammin]

So is the consensus that the x99 are actually less slippery at a dusty indoor than the dragons or the x97's? That would be surprising.

[Xen]

I’ve skated dragons, x97s and x99s, 99% of the time (exclusively) since each launched.

In the streets x99s slide the best of them all and I wouldn’t consider any of them slippery. BUT they can break free on super rough terrain with speed speed wobble speeds), which is weird as fuck…it’s like the compound says “oooh going too fast on rough terrain where you’d normally stick and get pitched…? I got you and goes into seemingly hover mode.

I’ve not tried them in a dusty park.

[LebowskisRug]

How long did your 99 take to slide @Xen ?

My friend has some work in 97s and we were skating together and he also agreed my 99 don't slide for shit if you try to just powerslide or speed check. It was something I liked about the other formulas. If they did revert and slide as well as the 97s I'd leave them on at this point.

[Vexed]

Do the X99 feel faster on glass-smooth skateparks than F4 99a to anyone else?

These V1s are just slightly smaller in diameter than the classics I’ve been riding, but they definitely feel faster on the 1 year old park.


1st session they messed with my pop a bit and I’m still tuning the slide, if I figure out how to work them in the smooth park I might be done with F4 for a while.

[LebowskisRug]

absolutely not. My 52 Classics feel faster than 53 X99 V5

[Vexed]

absolutely not. My 52 Classics feel faster than 53 X99 V5

These things hurting my brain a little.  The contact patches are basically identical and the wheels are within like a half mil now that I’m looking at both.  I did not have to push once on one of my warm up lines that occasionally needs one strong one with F4.  I haven’t had a “serious” session on them yet so I’ll have to see how they feel over the next few weekends.

[LebowskisRug]

I've skated this same park probably 150 times over the last year. I know exactly where to pump and how much I push for almost everything. The difference is slight, and when the coping isn't really sauced the X grind a bit slower near the end of a grind or slide. That actually doesn't bother me as much as it did on Dragons, but for a few lines I do find them a bit slower, but not by much. As I said if they reverted and slid the same as the other formulas I would just ignore this so I don't need to change wheels for a really rough park and slappy spot that I have been going to more lately.

[Xen]

How long did your 99 take to slide @Xen ?

My friend has some work in 97s and we were skating together and he also agreed my 99 don't slide for shit if you try to just powerslide or speed check. It was something I liked about the other formulas. If they did revert and slide as well as the 97s I'd leave them on at this point.

Just a few sessions really (53mm V1s)? For the first few days on any wheel I don't powerslide/revert (unless I have too) or speed check for fear of flatting them.

 They're my favorite out of the bunch...and again, no problems sliding any of the drag/xs on rough/crappy/non-ideal terrain (all I skate them on). YMMV if you are skating normal to smooth stuff.

[LebowskisRug]

Damn, I got them to be just a slightly harder/less grabby X97 but I think I like the 97s more actually.

[rocklobster]

Did 2 sessions on a new set of X97 54mm V5 and I'm impressed. They felt a little gummy for the first few minutes but hardened up, or maybe I just adjusted to them. Biggest adjustment was getting used to how much faster and smoother I was rolling. Some slow down on slides / grinds initially but after they got a bit of wax on them there was zero stick, while not being slippery even with some wax on them.

I skated 2 parks with rough concrete and these handle every rough patch near the ledges with little slow down, with my previous Dialtone 54mm Classics (Creative urethane I believe) I needed an extra 2 pushes to maintain my speed towards the ledge.

Happy that I went with the X97 over the X99 - I believe the X97 is a better all rounder especially for street spots while the X99 is better for park with some rough patches, similar to F4 99a / 101a are. The X99 on a friends board strangely felt bouncier than the X97.

Less importantly - I like the simple black graphic and text on the older X97 models, still graphics side in and the off-white and black is a sweet contrast when I look down at my setup.

I'd like to compare the ride with some F4 99a Classics I have on ice, but my gut and recency bias says the X97 would be the better wheel.

TLDR - X97 are good shit.

[rikki]

X97s sure are good shit. Obviously they're great on rough outdoors (asphalt, rough concrete) as mentioned here numerous times, but I've ridden them in my dusty local indoor (smooth concrete flat + plywood transitions) recently and the performance is solid. No problems powersliding on smooth concrete, doesn't slip out easily on plywood. Speed? Not quite up to par with F4 99s, but that should come as no surprise. A great all-around indoor park wheel if you want a bit a safer option as per F4s.

Having said that, if I want to go full gnar and have as much speed as possible at the said indoor, I still choose F4 99s at the risk of slipping out sometimes, as they undeniably are f*cking fast.

CAVEAT: still to try my new X99 55s at the same indoor. Very interested, will report back soon.