Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)

[Xen]

Does the no wheelbite thing on these trucks affect pinch on crooks?

Not at all...they turn in a bit like aces before you actually bite - it's not 'no' wheelbite, it's 'less' wheelbite. Every truck will wheelbite.

https://youtu.be/N2q3klwBkMQ?t=210

[Ghost Face]

The IKP thing seems like it's a really easy solve. I wonder if they consciously limited it bc the threads marred on the sleeve?

I think the thread's are limited to stop people over tightening and pushing the kingpin through the board.

[finecojeffe]

Tossed some kreeper kingpins in and they worked. More threads so you have the potential of hitting the board

[Texas_Tone]

I need to stay off these truck pages im second guessing my comeback setup now

[rawbertson.]

if you leave the trucks "stock" like where the nut is perfectly flush with the bolt - will you still shred the top bushing with the stock top washer?
is there a different brand washer like Indy i could put on to stop this? I have a set of indy med-hard (the blue ones) bushings that would probably work awesome in these trucks (if they fit). Or at least just change the top bushing?

[CarcassToss]

Ya dude literally every truck is good these days. Royals have good reviews, Slappys are good, I wouldn't be shocked if the Destructos were good, people were liking Tensor ATG even! There are so many compelling cases for each that you could pick one at random and not be hindered. At the same time, I know from riding friends boards that I take a long time to adjust to gear changes (but can) and want to avoid that. Dunno what I'll do when I get Lurpivs.

[Xen]

if you leave the trucks "stock" like where the nut is perfectly flush with the bolt - will you still shred the top bushing with the stock top washer?
is there a different brand washer like Indy i could put on to stop this? I have a set of indy med-hard (the blue ones) bushings that would probably work awesome in these trucks (if they fit). Or at least just change the top bushing?

The stock washer comes very 'cupped' rounded top but pretty long on the sides of the bushing,  this is what digs in, switch to more of a 'cap' washer (Indy or ace) or flat and you should be fine....if it's surface area isn't to big, because it will bind if so (when riding loose).

[smg1138]

I need to stay off these truck pages im second guessing my comeback setup now

Save yourself now because truck madness is the absolute worst 

[Xen]

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I need to stay off these truck pages im second guessing my comeback setup now

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Save yourself now because truck madness is the absolute worst 

The worst of the worst for sure (unless you only skate transition, then it's easier).

[Xen]

10" Curb Killers

[Texas_Tone]

Damnit I feel the needle moving…. I’m gonna end up with some slappy lows, hopefully with some 52s I won’t wheelbite too crazy

[k-nutz]

Damnit I feel the needle moving…. I’m gonna end up with some slappy lows, hopefully with some 52s I won’t wheelbite too crazy

Is that the ideal slappy (trick not truck) wheel size?

[Xen]

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Damnit I feel the needle moving…. I’m gonna end up with some slappy lows, hopefully with some 52s I won’t wheelbite too crazy

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Is that the ideal slappy (trick not truck) wheel size?

Doesn't make a difference really, anything will work. Some wheels shape or wheels sizes tend to be a bit easier to roll onto the curbs, just depends on if it's angled/slanted/rounded edged. Technique trumps gear but any edge you can get is good to have.

[Texas_Tone]

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Damnit I feel the needle moving…. I’m gonna end up with some slappy lows, hopefully with some 52s I won’t wheelbite too crazy

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Is that the ideal slappy (trick not truck) wheel size?

lol I don’t really do slappys…. I learned them frontside and that’s about it, I skate a lot of flat, ledges and manny pads, haven’t really felt the itch to spend an afternoon in a parking lot with a curb, but tastes change and it does seem like fun, I prefer low trucks, have been on ace lows with hard bushings, the metal is softer and I’m not a fan of the way they grind, it’s always a chore to push something further, and everyone says that these are made with a harder metal and they grind better also I’ve always wanted a pair of ikp trucks so these may finally push me over to the dark side

[Xen]

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Damnit I feel the needle moving…. I’m gonna end up with some slappy lows, hopefully with some 52s I won’t wheelbite too crazy

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Is that the ideal slappy (trick not truck) wheel size?

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lol I don’t really do slappys…. I learned them frontside and that’s about it, I skate a lot of flat, ledges and manny pads, haven’t really felt the itch to spend an afternoon in a parking lot with a curb, but tastes change and it does seem like fun, I prefer low trucks, have been on ace lows with hard bushings, the metal is softer and I’m not a fan of the way they grind, it’s always a chore to push something further, and everyone says that these are made with a harder metal and they grind better also I’ve always wanted a pair of ikp trucks so these may finally push me over to the dark side

It's a long wait until the slappy lows fall release tho. =(

As for 52s...man, I don't know maybe with some harder bushings or if you ride super tight. Sub 50mm trucks usually need equivilent or smaller sized wheels. The ACE lows with hard bushings and 50mm wheels were on point for that style of setup tho....just always felt I was defeating the purpose of getting ACEs at that point...weird that ACE low, Slappy low, Forged Mindy...ML...all similar style trucks provide the lowest options yet they're the turniest trucks but Venture lo are becoming extinct and only 147s are in the 'low' space.

[Amocat]

Skatewarehouse seems to have 100a slappy bushings, also 85a. Pic looks like same awful top washer. Not seeing these on the slappy website or anywhere else yet. I’m happy on 96a Indy but may try these anyway.

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Slappy_Standard_100a_Bushings_2_Truck/descpage-SY100BU.html

Edit: shoplurker show ccs also has them.

[Xen]

Yeah that’s the trash washer…I threw the stocks back in with both a thicker sleeved washer and put an extra bones washer on top, gave me enough room to tighten the IKP it where I needed.

Problem is fucked with them so much there is next to grab on the nylock.

Those bushings are legit btw.

[Texas_Tone]

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Damnit I feel the needle moving…. I’m gonna end up with some slappy lows, hopefully with some 52s I won’t wheelbite too crazy

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Is that the ideal slappy (trick not truck) wheel size?

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lol I don’t really do slappys…. I learned them frontside and that’s about it, I skate a lot of flat, ledges and manny pads, haven’t really felt the itch to spend an afternoon in a parking lot with a curb, but tastes change and it does seem like fun, I prefer low trucks, have been on ace lows with hard bushings, the metal is softer and I’m not a fan of the way they grind, it’s always a chore to push something further, and everyone says that these are made with a harder metal and they grind better also I’ve always wanted a pair of ikp trucks so these may finally push me over to the dark side

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It's a long wait until the slappy lows fall release tho. =(

As for 52s...man, I don't know maybe with some harder bushings or if you ride super tight. Sub 50mm trucks usually need equivilent or smaller sized wheels. The ACE lows with hard bushings and 50mm wheels were on point for that style of setup tho....just always felt I was defeating the purpose of getting ACEs at that point...weird that ACE low, Slappy low, Forged Mindy...ML...all similar style trucks provide the lowest options yet they're the turniest trucks but Venture lo are becoming extinct and only 147s are in the 'low' space.

Yea it’s a bad time to be a low rider

[Goggzy60]

Ya dude literally every truck is good these days. Royals have good reviews, Slappys are good, I wouldn't be shocked if the Destructos were good, people were liking Tensor ATG even! There are so many compelling cases for each that you could pick one at random and not be hindered. At the same time, I know from riding friends boards that I take a long time to adjust to gear changes (but can) and want to avoid that. Dunno what I'll do when I get Lurpivs.

I love destructos I ride D1s with bones bushings on my 8.5 board for parks and d2s with bones bushings with ikps on my 8.9 for street/curbs both are 5.75

[Texas_Tone]

I read somewhere that there is gonna be harder bushings coming standard in the new trucks? Anyone got an eta? 

[Xen]

I read somewhere that there is gonna be harder bushings coming standard in the new trucks? Anyone got an eta? 

They've 100a bushings, not to be stock that I am aware of. I think hard stock bushings would turn people of

"these things don't turn"

[Amocat]

I remember reading that somewhere as well but I’m going to guess since they are now selling the 100a and 85a that they’ll keep what comes stock the same. I also thought I heard they were changing top washer but I don’t think that’s happening either.

I got the 100a and they feel almost the same as the yellow Indy 96a, and not nearly as hard as a 100a mini logo. They also come with same top washer as the trucks so no change there either.

[Texas_Tone]

Appreciate the answer guys, was gonna wait a bit to grab a pair because I prefer the harder duro bushings but I’ll just get a pair of the 100a as well, maybe throw the harder bushing road side and keep the top stock

[Xen]

They're supposed to change the top washer...but I'd imagine 'you gotta use what you have' before you change stock. Maybe we'll get new top washers with the longer threaded kingpins or perhaps even the lows in fall.

[fernando the skater]

I do freestyle every now and then and have 98a Venom and Khiro bushings, and my Indy 109s do not turn in the slightest (that's freestyle, kids). I can't imagine those Slappy bushings are a real 100.

[Xen]

I do freestyle every now and then and have 98a Venom and Khiro bushings, and my Indy 109s do not turn in the slightest (that's freestyle, kids). I can't imagine those Slappy bushings are a real 100.

Why can't you?
https://www.boardparadise.com/slappy-standard-bushings-washers-set-100a-wht-2pr/
Have you ridden the 100a?

The 100a bushings I received as replacements [to the stock 90a] are hard. Very hard. As or harder feeling in the trucks than the 96a Indy bushings I've ridden in them (I do not have a durometer to gauge).

[Texas_Tone]

Yea I live in Texas so we can usually run a harder duro and after they break in they are good to go, I’m not that heavy or anything but I do prefer a stable truck that only moves when I want it to, so hopefully the “hards” are good, got cleared by the doc to return to skating, getting fitted for my active brace pretty soon, hyped to get back to skating…even if it’s gonna be cruising the local parking lot for a bit

[Xen]

Yea I live in Texas so we can usually run a harder duro and after they break in they are good to go, I’m not that heavy or anything but I do prefer a stable truck that only moves when I want it to, so hopefully the “hards” are good, got cleared by the doc to return to skating, getting fitted for my active brace pretty soon, hyped to get back to skating…even if it’s gonna be cruising the local parking lot for a bit

That's where I'm at now here in LA, it's hot enough where 100a is much more flexible and feel a few duro lower.

[fernando the skater]

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I do freestyle every now and then and have 98a Venom and Khiro bushings, and my Indy 109s do not turn in the slightest (that's freestyle, kids). I can't imagine those Slappy bushings are a real 100.

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Why can't you?
https://www.boardparadise.com/slappy-standard-bushings-washers-set-100a-wht-2pr/
Have you ridden the 100a?

The 100a bushings I received as replacements [to the stock 90a] are hard. Very hard. As or harder feeling in the trucks than the 96a Indy bushings I've ridden in them (I do not have a durometer to gauge).

Not wanting to go round in circles, but I doubt the Indy 96a bushings are a true 96. And those I've actually tried. Tony Gale, a freestyler who runs Offset Skate Supply, tested the Ace 94a bushings as 90a (https://offsetskatesupply.co.uk/product/ace-af1-hard-bushing-kit/). I'd guess the Slappy bushings have a similar discrepancy. Mini Logo 100a feel hard, as Amocat mentioned above, and I'd have more faith in Powell giving an accurate rating, along with bushing companies like Riptide, Venom, Khiro.

[jimgrude]

Certainly looks like twice the grind clearance as on the Indies. How high are those, weight, I need specs.

All Slappy's are 53.9mm