Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)

[Enrico Pallazzo]

Bit the bullet and got some of the 9 inch super low inverted hollow Slappys to try them out. One session in I was reminded that I don't really hang up my kingpin and I'm not a cool guy who does feeble variations and would have been fine with regular kingpins, but oh well. Have a couple weeks on them and still liking them, no issues yet with the kingpin bolt adjusting itself.

Overall the turn is enjoyable, feel pretty comparable to an AF1, not quite as surfy as an Ace Classic or T2. Grind and pinch both feel decent and the weight difference is wild from the Stage IVs I had setup before. Stoked on these, I'll continue to ride them for a while and maybe eventually get to the point where the inverted kingpin is a benefit instead of something I just look at and say "neat".

[Sandwich Marty]

Bit the bullet and got some of the 9 inch super low inverted hollow Slappys to try them out. One session in I was reminded that I don't really hang up my kingpin and I'm not a cool guy who does feeble variations and would have been fine with regular kingpins, but oh well. Have a couple weeks on them and still liking them, no issues yet with the kingpin bolt adjusting itself.

Overall the turn is enjoyable, feel pretty comparable to an AF1, not quite as surfy as an Ace Classic or T2. Grind and pinch both feel decent and the weight difference is wild from the Stage IVs I had setup before. Stoked on these, I'll continue to ride them for a while and maybe eventually get to the point where the inverted kingpin is a benefit instead of something I just look at and say "neat".

I was on the IKP hype train for a couple years but now I think they’re 100% a vanity component. Even at their best you’re dealing with shorter bushings which will eventually compress to the point where you’re wheelbiting way too often or getting soggy pop. They’re ideal for a slappy heavy setup but if you’re doing any kind of jumping or flipping just go standard and grind the KP down the way god intended.

[Mbrimson88]

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I am curious to see or hear if anyone else has broken the hollow inverted kingpins, especially the ultra low inverted kingpin.

Seen a couple of people post about them with the Slappy kingpin breaking in much the same areas, as per the Thunder hollow inverted kingpins breaking, same as the Ace hollow inverted kingpins breaking too, come to think of it, so I just wonder if the more stress on the inverted kingpins is causing more issues with all hollow options, hence Indy and Thunder seeming to go back to a solid inverted kingpin for the most part.

[Tiltmode Army Reservist]

How's the pop feel and pinch compared to Indy's? Does the lighter truck cancel out the slight WB extension? Is the pinch better, worse, similar?

For me, the pop feels better (more than likely because of the weight reduction), and the pinch feels similar. But I also ride with shock pads (I'm 200 lbs, and want my boards to last as long as possible), hard bushings, tighter trucks, and 55mm wheels, so my shit might be way off from how you ride yours. Also, regarding the wheelbase, I've been at 14.25" for years now, and I haven't felt a difference between any of the different types of trucks I've bolted (Indys or Slappys, or my Ace/Slappy Frankentrucks) to any of those boards. I could easily be overlooking something in this regard.

I have a friend who rode a similar Ace Baseplate / Slappy Hanger setup with much bigger trucks, and rode them much looser, and he mentioned that he was blowing out bushings every 2-3 sessions.

I hope some of this helps.

[BurnBurningBurnt]

No mention of Torey yet?

[Chalupa]

No mention of Torey yet?

No one really gives a shit about him?

If he didn’t have a million followers on IG, he wouldn’t be more than flow. I can’t see him getting a pro truck, but they’ll probably put that stupid Grizzly logo on a set.

[BurnBurningBurnt]

Got it. So, Torey sucks. I'll make a note. Thank You.

[Sandwich Marty]

I think Torrey Pudwill being present in skateboarding is holding it back.

[BurnBurningBurnt]

If anything his arms are flinging it forward right?

[ambiguousclarity]

Just curious if the bushings still shred in these? I had the st1s last summer and my top bushings was pretty much cut in half right away when I tried how the trucks turn. Kept skating the trucks though and they worked fine. The same happened even with the replacement bushings. The ultra low kp trucks seem intriguing but Im not a fan of hollowed trucks. It seems they sell the new baseplates separately so I could swap the solid hangers on those too.

I’ve a set of ultra lows waiting to set up once I’m finished with my current trucks. Was curious and set them up for week when I switched decks recently and destroyed the top bushings in two sessions.i had some mini logo bushings which seemed to fit okay. They felt okay to skate. Was glad to get back on my Ventures. Though that’s just due to familiarity. I’m sure they’ll be fine once they’re familiar. I found they grabbed on concrete ledges and curbs. Also found the yolk was grabbing on feebles, which is easily sorted with wax. This might sound odd, but I don’t mind feeling my kingpin drag in feebles, I tend to pivot out off it. Found not feeling it a tad disorienting.

[Obijuan91]

When I had skated these a while back the Indy bushings fixed the shredding. The top is a bit taller so it eats up some threads and the fact it’s taller means it cones up more so it’s not wide enough for the bushings to catch like with the origional slappy top bushing.

[Spacecase]

Haven't had any issues with bushings shredding on my slappys. I have the 9",9.25" and 9.5" ST1 standard kingpin versions all with Slappy 100A bushings. honestly was one of the main reasons I switched over from Indy, always had my top bushing shredded no matter if I used the stock or aftermarket washers in Indys.

[Amocat]

The 8 hole version is showing up on Skatewarehouse now. Truck or just base plate. No info for measurements though, Slappy site does have a pic too but couldn’t find additional info there either.

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Slappy_ST1_Classic_Hollow_8_Hole_Baseplate/descpage-SY8HBP.html

Looking at pics I think they have more space between the holes than the Venture V8s.

[Mbrimson88]

The 8 hole version is showing up on Skatewarehouse now. Truck or just base plate. No info for measurements though, Slappy site does have a pic too but couldn’t find additional info there either.

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Slappy_ST1_Classic_Hollow_8_Hole_Baseplate/descpage-SY8HBP.html

Looking at pics I think they have more space between the holes than the Venture V8s.

Yes they look like the old six hole baseplates, just with another set of holes drilled at 3/8 from the inside holes as well.

I guess this is good if people want them in a bit more, but then the whole reason bolts were shifted in was to stop them being knocked, grinded or broken off when nose or tail slides became so common, so it would be interesting to see them mounted on a board, to see if the nuts still had clearance or not.

At least now people can get them pre drilled and don't have to do it themselves, which is still the case with Indy and some others, which I have experimented with and drilled out at different lengths.

Any which way I am curious to see and hear more.

[moykky]

Anybody know if Slappy sells those low profile baseplates separately (not the inverted low)? I haven't seen them... 

Side note: I tried the normal Slappys (54mm) and the turn was noticeably different. Bushings are the same, so is it just placebo or is the geometry different, not just the height?

[Amocat]

Anybody know if Slappy sells those low profile baseplates separately (not the inverted low)? I haven't seen them... 

Side note: I tried the normal Slappys (54mm) and the turn was noticeably different. Bushings are the same, so is it just placebo or is the geometry different, not just the height?

I've never seen them separate anywhere. In an interview a bit back he mentioned selling everything separate and doing build your own truck, which is showing on their site but only the standard height options. I've also never seen much of a sale price on the low profiles, I eventually caved and had my local order a set. I am probably set on slappy hangers till the end of times at this point.

Other than the height difference I feel like the turn is the same, but the first time I tried the lows it was very strange being that much lower, I had also ran 60mm wheels on the standards and switched to 54mm on the lows. I also run the 100a bushings with 1 thread showing so I may not be able to notice the difference in turn as much due to that.

[ToFakie]

I switched to the low profiles awhile back but briefly had both the highs and lows set-up to compare.

For what it’s worth I think they have a pretty different turn, less quick/snappy/whatever but they still have a good turn for how low they are. It’s also something you get used to pretty quick.

I think the lows provide more stability and I really prefer the pop they give so I’m converted, so long as they keep selling them.

[DNTRODDEN]

I switched to the low profiles awhile back but briefly had both the highs and lows set-up to compare.

For what it’s worth I think they have a pretty different turn, less quick/snappy/whatever but they still have a good turn for how low they are. It’s also something you get used to pretty quick.

I think the lows provide more stability and I really prefer the pop they give so I’m converted, so long as they keep selling them.

I ride the 8.5 Low Profile, was my favorite until I got on the Thunder T2.  But the Slappy wil be my go-to on decks with a sub 14.25 wheelbase

[rocklobster]

Intrigued to try a pair when I can grab a pair on sale, especially the ST1 Inverted Hollow Lights/Ultra Low Kingpin.

Can anyone confirm how much they push out the WB? I'm skeptical of Schmitt's measurements especially on Thunders and Ventures, I've always thought of Indy Standard (cast) baseplate as bang on +3.0" right down the middle with forged +3.125".

Height wise they claim to be 4mm lower than their standards, trucks so 49.9mm? Looks like ultra low just referred to the kingpin, the Hollow Low are the ones which are 4mm shorter, but if someone could confirm height that would be good


And wobbly kingpins especially on IKPs, anyone experience that yet?

Been on Ventures for a long time, ridden Indy forged intermittently, so Slappy might be a big shock to the system.

[TwisT]

Intrigued to try a pair when I can grab a pair on sale, especially the ST1 Inverted Hollow Lights/Ultra Low Kingpin.

Can anyone confirm how much they push out the WB? I'm skeptical of Schmitt's measurements especially on Thunders and Ventures, I've always thought of Indy Standard (cast) baseplate as bang on +3.0" right down the middle with forged +3.125".

Height wise they claim to be 4mm lower than their standards, trucks so 49.9mm? Looks like ultra low just referred to the kingpin, the Hollow Low are the ones which are 4mm shorter, but if someone could confirm height that would be good


And wobbly kingpins especially on IKPs, anyone experience that yet?

Been on Ventures for a long time, ridden Indy forged intermittently, so Slappy might be a big shock to the system.

I have multiple decks all identical shape and WB. I went from thunder to slappy and tried just to get used to the change, but it didn't pan out. If you do want to go to slappy, I'd recommend getting a a deck to accomedate for the WB chamge. I ended up giving my slappys away.

[rob]

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I switched to the low profiles awhile back but briefly had both the highs and lows set-up to compare.

For what it’s worth I think they have a pretty different turn, less quick/snappy/whatever but they still have a good turn for how low they are. It’s also something you get used to pretty quick.

I think the lows provide more stability and I really prefer the pop they give so I’m converted, so long as they keep selling them.

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I ride the 8.5 Low Profile, was my favorite until I got on the Thunder T2.  But the Slappy wil be my go-to on decks with a sub 14.25 wheelbase

Why the t2 over the slappys?

[rocklobster]

Pulled the trigger on a pair of almost new Ultra Low Inverted Kingpin 8.5s, for some reason the seller insisted on keeping the bushings. Slappy bushings aren't readily available near where I live, anyone know if the Indy or Ace Low ones are compatible? Or if anyone can measure the height that would be even better.

I've got some very worn down Ace Low Hard ones from an old setup, might go with them to avoid any break in period.

[Amocat]

Pulled the trigger on a pair of almost new Ultra Low Inverted Kingpin 8.5s, for some reason the seller insisted on keeping the bushings. Slappy bushings aren't readily available near where I live, anyone know if the Indy or Ace Low ones are compatible? Or if anyone can measure the height that would be even better.

I've got some very worn down Ace Low Hard ones from an old setup, might go with them to avoid any break in period.

I’ve used Indy in the past and they were pretty close to the same. The ultra low do have different bushing, but I ran them with the normal bushings and it seemed fine

Edit. Found my calipers and I got 13.2mm on bottom bushing and 8.8mm for top, unused stock bushings.

[rocklobster]

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Pulled the trigger on a pair of almost new Ultra Low Inverted Kingpin 8.5s, for some reason the seller insisted on keeping the bushings. Slappy bushings aren't readily available near where I live, anyone know if the Indy or Ace Low ones are compatible? Or if anyone can measure the height that would be even better.

I've got some very worn down Ace Low Hard ones from an old setup, might go with them to avoid any break in period.

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I’ve used Indy in the past and they were pretty close to the same. The ultra low do have different bushing, but I ran them with the normal bushings and it seemed fine

Edit. Found my calipers and I got 13.2mm on bottom bushing and 8.8mm for top, unused stock bushings.

Sweet, thanks for whipping the calipers out!

[ambiguousclarity]

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Pulled the trigger on a pair of almost new Ultra Low Inverted Kingpin 8.5s, for some reason the seller insisted on keeping the bushings. Slappy bushings aren't readily available near where I live, anyone know if the Indy or Ace Low ones are compatible? Or if anyone can measure the height that would be even better.

I've got some very worn down Ace Low Hard ones from an old setup, might go with them to avoid any break in period.

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I’ve used Indy in the past and they were pretty close to the same. The ultra low do have different bushing, but I ran them with the normal bushings and it seemed fine

Edit. Found my calipers and I got 13.2mm on bottom bushing and 8.8mm for top, unused stock bushings.

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Sweet, thanks for whipping the calipers out!

That’s interesting. I’ve got a list of different brands’ bushings measurements pulled from post on slap and possibly other sources, it has standard slappy bushings as bottom 13mm and top 9.5mm, so just shy of 1mm lower.

I’ve been on the 8.5 ultra lows for a month. Shredded the top bushing a few sessions in and have tried several different top bushings. Ace inverted (9mm)seem to work best. if you also use the bottom bushings they’re apparently 1mm taller at 14mm. Mind you the replacement bushings look to be readily available online now. An alternative option could be be the venture low bushing kit. Bottom is 13mm and top 8mm.

[Mbrimson88]

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Bushing info link here:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=112631.msg4469351#msg4469351



My regular Slappy trucks had a 9 mm top and 13 mm bottom, at least from the measurements I have here, from the bushings before skating the trucks.

I seem to recall seeing the low with an 8 mm top, but maybe that is just what the other low bushings are from other brands, so it would be good if someone could add in their bushing measurements from the aftermarket box before putting them in trucks.

People have said they all compress down a fair bit, which did seem to be the case with mine as well.


Anyone got the different boxes of bushings and can check measurements of any of them please?


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The regular and the low profile trucks are the same bushings, the ultra low kingpin the top bushing is a bit shorter if I remember correct. I just got the ultra low kingpin yesterday and put it in with the normal bushings though and it is working fine. The low profile the lower height is from the baseplate.

[DNTRODDEN]

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I switched to the low profiles awhile back but briefly had both the highs and lows set-up to compare.

For what it’s worth I think they have a pretty different turn, less quick/snappy/whatever but they still have a good turn for how low they are. It’s also something you get used to pretty quick.

I think the lows provide more stability and I really prefer the pop they give so I’m converted, so long as they keep selling them.

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I ride the 8.5 Low Profile, was my favorite until I got on the Thunder T2.  But the Slappy wil be my go-to on decks with a sub 14.25 wheelbase

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Why the t2 over the slappys?

My only guess is the WB factor, I hated the T2 Bushings, but I have always liked a shorter WB.
Until I got on the T2s, I was always missing my "pop" on anything taller than s 52mm axel height, and I was very skeptical about the 54mm T2,, but has not been an issue.

[rob]

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I switched to the low profiles awhile back but briefly had both the highs and lows set-up to compare.

For what it’s worth I think they have a pretty different turn, less quick/snappy/whatever but they still have a good turn for how low they are. It’s also something you get used to pretty quick.

I think the lows provide more stability and I really prefer the pop they give so I’m converted, so long as they keep selling them.

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I ride the 8.5 Low Profile, was my favorite until I got on the Thunder T2.  But the Slappy wil be my go-to on decks with a sub 14.25 wheelbase

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Why the t2 over the slappys?

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My only guess is the WB factor, I hated the T2 Bushings, but I have always liked a shorter WB.
Until I got on the T2s, I was always missing my "pop" on anything taller than s 52mm axel height, and I was very skeptical about the 54mm T2,, but has not been an issue.

Crazy I usually have the same issue usually with taller trucks

I can’t say for certain but is it me or do slappys look like a reworked theeve v2 truck

I wonder if slappys and royals have the same wheelbase too since Ben degros in his royal trucks review said the wheelbase is in between an Indy and thunder like what slappy claims

[Obijuan91]

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I switched to the low profiles awhile back but briefly had both the highs and lows set-up to compare.

For what it’s worth I think they have a pretty different turn, less quick/snappy/whatever but they still have a good turn for how low they are. It’s also something you get used to pretty quick.

I think the lows provide more stability and I really prefer the pop they give so I’m converted, so long as they keep selling them.

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I ride the 8.5 Low Profile, was my favorite until I got on the Thunder T2.  But the Slappy wil be my go-to on decks with a sub 14.25 wheelbase

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Why the t2 over the slappys?

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My only guess is the WB factor, I hated the T2 Bushings, but I have always liked a shorter WB.
Until I got on the T2s, I was always missing my "pop" on anything taller than s 52mm axel height, and I was very skeptical about the 54mm T2,, but has not been an issue.

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Crazy I usually have the same issue usually with taller trucks

I can’t say for certain but is it me or do slappys look like a reworked theeve v2 truck

I wonder if slappys and royals have the same wheelbase too since Ben degros in his royal trucks review said the wheelbase is in between an Indy and thunder like what slappy claims

They do

[finecojeffe]

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I switched to the low profiles awhile back but briefly had both the highs and lows set-up to compare.

For what it’s worth I think they have a pretty different turn, less quick/snappy/whatever but they still have a good turn for how low they are. It’s also something you get used to pretty quick.

I think the lows provide more stability and I really prefer the pop they give so I’m converted, so long as they keep selling them.

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I ride the 8.5 Low Profile, was my favorite until I got on the Thunder T2.  But the Slappy wil be my go-to on decks with a sub 14.25 wheelbase

[close]

Why the t2 over the slappys?

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My only guess is the WB factor, I hated the T2 Bushings, but I have always liked a shorter WB.
Until I got on the T2s, I was always missing my "pop" on anything taller than s 52mm axel height, and I was very skeptical about the 54mm T2,, but has not been an issue.

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Crazy I usually have the same issue usually with taller trucks

I can’t say for certain but is it me or do slappys look like a reworked theeve v2 truck

I wonder if slappys and royals have the same wheelbase too since Ben degros in his royal trucks review said the wheelbase is in between an Indy and thunder like what slappy claims

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They do

strange. I like both, but for some reason the I like the royals more when I'm doing flip tricks. I swap between the two regularly on different setups and have been on the royals more lately compared to the slappys. I always assumed the wb on the royals was slightly longer. Is there a height difference between the royals and the standard slappys?