magic carpet vs. hot rod

[roba]

8.25-8.38 on venture 5.8s, 2 washers on the inside of each wheel

[Mongo Lloyd]

Magic carpet all the way. 8.25” deck with 8” axle trucks is where it’s at.

[iw0]

Magic carpet all the way. 8.25” deck with 8” axle trucks is where it’s at.

while i deviate (very) often, this is the way

[logjammin]

My AF1 44’s with some huge 60mm Dogtown’s fit perfect on my current 8.5. If I had some “normal” sized wheels it would look too hotrod for my liking. I like 8.25”-8.38” boards when I’m not running huge wheels on the 44’s. The fit makes a lot more sense. In general, anytime I’ve ran wider trucks than board I can only do .25” wider of trucks. And the wheels have to just be a classic round shape and not wide or chunky or else they stick out way too much and I hate it. I really don’t prefer it either way. Rather have some magic carpet. And as much as I’m mainly a transition and slappy type, I just feel meh about wider trucks every time I set them up. Just too much of a big boat feeling. I like my setup to feel more nimble and snappy, wider trucks mellow things out and wheelbite seems easier.

[Richard Skidder]

Currently on 148s. I fluctuate between board sizes so they’re my happy medium. Depending on what type of terrain I’m skating the most I’ll go from 8.125 (more street) up to 8.38 (more transition) so I’m kind of in the both camp. It’s more important for me to have consistency in how my trucks feel overall because It doesn’t change the way I aim at the ledge or coping depending on where and what I’m skating.

[munchbox]

kinda stuck with magic carpet but i dont mind
9.0+ with 8.75 axles isnt bad with a few inside washers

liked hot rodding when possible
but riding ace 66, 77, or 215 is overkill in a one setup scenario

[LebowskisRug]

When in doubt consult The Boss- 139's on up to 8.5.

Think of it this way- it's easier to add washers than make a truck narrower. If you're like me and like a weirdo in between size like 8.38 get the size closest to the decks you might otherwise ride.

[j....soy.....]

Grinding=hot rod, flipping= magic carpet

That said….there’s an argument that same board/truck is a magic carpet and 1/8th inch bigger trucks is actually perfect…..

[pops]

I was on hot rod for years but rn I have sort of magic carpet cruiser setup: 9.25 deck, Af1 55 and OJ super juice. The wheels are quite flush with the deck. Favorite setup in years.

[Andrefosho]

Flush.

I've been enjoying 8.25 boards with Indy/Thunder 149's and the wheels sit flush along the board sides.

I have experienced magic carpet and to me it felt like I'm on a mall board.

[switchfakie]

i like hot rod more, but atm im skating 8.5 with indy 149s - so flush

[Easy Slider]

i like hot rod more, but atm im skating 8.5 with indy 149s - so flush

Flush.

I've been enjoying 8.25 boards with Indy/Thunder 149's and the wheels sit flush along the board sides.

I have experienced magic carpet and to me it felt like I'm on a mall board.

Guys can we define flush. Andre‘s set up would be hot rod in my book because the axles are wider than the bloard. Switchfakie would be same axle and bloard width. What‘s the consensus here?

[El Freegano]

I have been riding 8 inch trucks for a lot of years and have tried it both ways. I do prefer the magic carpet but i have been on 8/7.875 decks for more than 2 years and don't think i would like to go for smaller trucks. I have grinded my axels to be flush with the nuts though

[moonordie]

8.25 on 8.5 trucks

[ldmch11]

im running 8.25 on one of those big polar surf shapes, feels good

[dublak2]

“Guys can we define flush. Andre‘s set up would be hot rod in my book because the axles are wider than the bloard. Switchfakie would be same axle and bloard width. What‘s the consensus here?”

I can see the logic in qualifying the wheel as flush, but for arguments sake i would like to define the axle as flush. You do you though.

[rawbertson.]

149 is meant for 8.5" deck... etc. that is flush.

i like the way magic carpet looks way better than hot rod, i dont really give a shit about performance. hot rod probably makes more sense for if you want to win street league.

1/4" difference isnt even much at all. i encourage people to experiment with this a bit cause it really doesnt make a huge effect but enough you might decide you like it more or like the way it looks more.

i feel like true hot rods / carpet need to be at least 1/2" gap 

[EagleassMF]

I usually ride the standard dlx 8.25 (which is actually an 8.3) and 149 indys feel good. I don’t notice and bolt overhang.

I don’t think there’s anyone in these threads that is good enough or fine tuned enough that a 1/2 inch will ever make a difference in their skating.

[moonordie]

149 is meant for 8.5" deck... etc. that is flush.

i like the way magic carpet looks way better than hot rod, i dont really give a shit about performance. hot rod probably makes more sense for if you want to win street league.

1/4" difference isnt even much at all. i encourage people to experiment with this a bit cause it really doesnt make a huge effect but enough you might decide you like it more or like the way it looks more.

i feel like true hot rods / carpet need to be at least 1/2" gap 

I totally agree on the 0.5" theory

[IpathCats]

Grinding=hot rod, flipping= magic carpet

That said….there’s an argument that same board/truck is a magic carpet and 1/8th inch bigger trucks is actually perfect…..

yup, track width isnt equal to axle length.

[YeoWhattup]

Thunder 151 on 8.5s work well for me

[Xen]

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i like hot rod more, but atm im skating 8.5 with indy 149s - so flush

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Flush.

I've been enjoying 8.25 boards with Indy/Thunder 149's and the wheels sit flush along the board sides.

I have experienced magic carpet and to me it felt like I'm on a mall board.

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Guys can we define flush. Andre‘s set up would be hot rod in my book because the axles are wider than the bloard. Switchfakie would be same axle and bloard width. What‘s the consensus here?

Outer wheel edge flush with board rail (nutz would stick out a hair usually).

[dublak2]

I don’t think there’s anyone in these threads that is good enough or fine tuned enough that a 1/2 inch will ever make a difference in their skating.

Pssshhh…who brought this guy 

[layzieyez]

I’m a flusher and below.

If I see axle nuts, it reminds me of all the times the axle nuts hit me on the left inner ankle. The bone is noticeably sharpened and almost cone-like.

Even on my shaped loveseat I keep it 144 specifically so I can’t see deeznutz.

[j....soy.....]

I’ve always liked how the magic carpet comes with free switch heels and a substantial discount on nollie heels….

[gaunting]

I’m a flusher and below.

If I see axle nuts, it reminds me of all the times the axle nuts hit me on the left inner ankle. The bone is noticeably sharpened and almost cone-like.

Even on my shaped loveseat I keep it 144 specifically so I can’t see deeznutz.

same. also, after skating thunder 147 on a 7.75”, the axles were stripped in slipped, almost within less than 2 months. gonna assume from endless bashes to the ground, where the deck rails should’ve slammed instead.

[Schinken]

Flush or slightly wider than deck, but it also depends on what truck I'm skating. Independent and Venture do quite well, even on something like 8.25 with 8.75 trucks. Thunders feel like shit when the trucks get to wide for the deck.

[Firebert]

Standard rule: axle width = deck width
Better rule: wheel edge = deck edge

[Skibb]

Just set up a Polar 92 shape with Ace 55s: magic carpet in the front, hot rod in the back.

I hate it.

[Mulldrifter]

i have a guy in my city riding a 8.38 with indy 169 and 58mm formula four wheels, his board looks like mad max's engine, i kinda like it but i wouldnt be able to just ollie with it, i would always wheelbite because of slightly off landing