eS thread

[rocklobster]

Let me hear y'all's thoughts and experiences with the accel slim mid...on the fence about getting a pair. Good ankle support? Tts? Good cushioning to make your feet not hurt after sessions?

Didn't wear the mid but the regular Accel Slim fits TTS, the sole is thinner and less durable that I'd like, the Swift 1.5 sole and outsole wins in that regard. Durability is not the Accel Slim's strong point, they come with a broken in feel but get floppy faster than I'd like with a sole that doesn't last as long as it should.

I'd pick it up only on discount and for nostalgia.

[DarkPools]

Has anyone else had this problem of the sole just ripping off the heel on és quattros when taking shoes off? Really annoyed, I’ve only skated these shoes for like 15 times and they’re already broken…

Dunks/Blazers and other big corporate brand shoes last me 2-3 months of skating almost everyday. Thank god i didn’t pay the full 95€ on these.

Never, and I've owned/skated a decent number of Silo SC and Quattros that use that sole. I've had great experiences with mine lasting quite awhile. This might be a one-off defective pair, as not many, if any one else has shared this separation happening to that outsole before from what I've seen.

Did you buy from es direct or somewhere else ? If es direct, I'd recommend contacting customer support if you haven't already explored that for a fix/compensation

Accel OG largely fit me TTS but I definitely think I could/should have gone 0.5 when I was rocking them. My toes did get squished a little sometimes since the length was too stubby and not as tapered as Swift, Accel Slim, Silo SC, etc. Also, some colorways were better than others of the same size. Not many I've seen express that they run large tbh

[smg1138]

Do the Accel Slims have any kind of midsole cushioning or is it just an outsole/insole type of design?

[Allen.]

Do the Accel Slims have any kind of midsole cushioning or is it just an outsole/insole type of design?

Thick insole, very thin sole. No midsole.

[EdLawndale]

Wearing the Penny 2s now. They feel good.

[mrselfdestruct]

two questions: the white and blue creagers (seen a couple photos and one of them for sale on mercari in my size that sold), will that colorway ever drop or are they samples. another one, the k5, what was that outsole called? a negative sole? what was the point of it and did anyone ever skate shoes with a similar sole?

[Mean salto]

two questions: the white and blue creagers (seen a couple photos and one of them for sale on mercari in my size that sold), will that colorway ever drop or are they samples. another one, the k5, what was that outsole called? a negative sole? what was the point of it and did anyone ever skate shoes with a similar sole?

You mean how the leather came down over the sidewalls of the sole? I think it was just for something different. Dylans first gravis shoe had it, had a friend who skated a lot of those but was prob more to do with the look/Dylan than the shoe. There was a brand in the early 00s called Evo's that had it on most shoes. Think Dyrdek had some DC's with it. Ave too

[thehogsniper]

two questions: the white and blue creagers (seen a couple photos and one of them for sale on mercari in my size that sold), will that colorway ever drop or are they samples. another one, the k5, what was that outsole called? a negative sole? what was the point of it and did anyone ever skate shoes with a similar sole?

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[malevy]

I really wish eS would make a retro 197 in the black and grey colorway!

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two questions: the white and blue creagers (seen a couple photos and one of them for sale on mercari in my size that sold), will that colorway ever drop or are they samples. another one, the k5, what was that outsole called? a negative sole? what was the point of it and did anyone ever skate shoes with a similar sole?

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cool, thanks. where do you get this info btw? reddit?

[Musicaldeath107]

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two questions: the white and blue creagers (seen a couple photos and one of them for sale on mercari in my size that sold), will that colorway ever drop or are they samples. another one, the k5, what was that outsole called? a negative sole? what was the point of it and did anyone ever skate shoes with a similar sole?

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You mean how the leather came down over the sidewalls of the sole? I think it was just for something different. Dylans first gravis shoe had it, had a friend who skated a lot of those but was prob more to do with the look/Dylan than the shoe. There was a brand in the early 00s called Evo's that had it on most shoes. Think Dyrdek had some DC's with it. Ave too

The technique/construction method is called Double Lasting

[thehogsniper]

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two questions: the white and blue creagers (seen a couple photos and one of them for sale on mercari in my size that sold), will that colorway ever drop or are they samples. another one, the k5, what was that outsole called? a negative sole? what was the point of it and did anyone ever skate shoes with a similar sole?

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cool, thanks. where do you get this info btw? reddit?

Catalogs

[fakiefs180]

How is the boardfeel and support of the Swift 1.5 compared to a Etnies Michelin type shoe for example?

I like the look of the Swift 1.5 and on paper it sounds like a good cupsole with a midsole and great boardfeel?

[Gray Imp Sausage Metal]

Swift outsole is probs my fav cupsole form recent years (bar the G6), having said that  it’s pretty thin in the scheme of things, will probs feel like a bulky ish vulc if you’re coming off joslins

[DarkPools]

The Michelin outsole has you feeling the midsole/outsole between your feet and the board. As you've already experienced once you broke yours in to skate.

The Swift outsole is a notch or two below that where you still get that cupsole feel like the Joslin but you're noticeably closer to board just in feeling. Still offers almost as much grip and stability as Michelin soles, though. They are more flexible, so a "diet Michelin" is one way you could describe them.  A good sole for sure!

[fakiefs180]

Wow, okay I think the Swift 1.5 could be really good then. I like the Joslin shoes a lot but I think a bit more boardfeel would be nice. I currently run the Joslin's with the FP Low Gamechangers and like that a lot. Jumped down a 4 stair and felt nothing from the impact. Which really surprised me because I am used to Lakai Vulcs.

By the way, same size as the Joslin's?

Thanks pals.

[RossDailey]

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two questions: the white and blue creagers (seen a couple photos and one of them for sale on mercari in my size that sold), will that colorway ever drop or are they samples. another one, the k5, what was that outsole called? a negative sole? what was the point of it and did anyone ever skate shoes with a similar sole?

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Black/white - Holiday 24

Black & White Creagers?
might actually have to buy a pair

[sagginbaggies]

Hey anyone have a source picture of the eS Theory with white perforated leather and black suede?

[propaganda]

Posting cause I’m jealous of the NB thread and having to see the NB ad every time I check this site.

Go es! Wooohooo. I fuck with Johnny Hernandez and all the legends of course. Just ordered some shoes where tf they at, I think it’s the post office fault.

[propaganda]

I swear I hate es but cant stop buying them. Too me seems like they marketing the same accel they been moving for the last couple months as a new original from 1995 for Accel day? Was Accel day ever a thing?

[skateboarder4life]

i guess there's a difference between the accel og and the accel. which is weird because they're marketing this as "bringing back the original". so what's the OG supposed to be? lol

[back smith]

i guess there's a difference between the accel og and the accel. which is weird because they're marketing this as "bringing back the original". so what's the OG supposed to be? lol

It was their previous attempt at bringing it back..

[KDP]

No, the Accel OG was an updated puffier version of the Accel (1995) around 2005. At that point they dropped the Accel (1995) quietly and and for some insane reason, they named the updated puffy version the "Accel OG"

And the original hasn't been made for 20 years.
There are some weird halfway versions, though. That VX shoe has bits of both. Not sure what happened there. My guess is an attempt to slim it down to the 95 style quietly before making a 'proper' full 1995 version which this Accel Day release is.

[back smith]

No, the Accel OG was an updated puffier version of the Accel (1995) around 2005. At that point they dropped the Accel (1995) quietly and and for some insane reason, they named the updated puffy version the "Accel OG"

And the original hasn't been made for 20 years.
There are some weird halfway versions, though. That VX shoe has bits of both. Not sure what happened there. My guess is an attempt to slim it down to the 95 style quietly before making a 'proper' full 1995 version which this Accel Day release is.

Well they sure don't market it as some kind of updated puffier version (OG version = old guy version?). On the éS website it says "The most iconic skate shoe ever – unchanged since ’95 and still unstoppable. This is the one. The shoe that changed skateboarding forever. Originally released in 1995, the éS Accel OG is the most iconic, most respected skate shoe of all time—voted #1 skate shoe again and again by the skaters who know".

[Tommy G]

No, the Accel OG was an updated puffier version of the Accel (1995) around 2005. At that point they dropped the Accel (1995) quietly and and for some insane reason, they named the updated puffy version the "Accel OG"

And the original hasn't been made for 20 years.
There are some weird halfway versions, though. That VX shoe has bits of both. Not sure what happened there. My guess is an attempt to slim it down to the 95 style quietly before making a 'proper' full 1995 version which this Accel Day release is.

That’s been my beef with the OG version. I had the Muska colorway back in 2010 and it even had a different feel to it. This one is way too puffy. I can only hope they’ll keep the original shape and phase out the OG version.

[KDP]

Well they sure don't market it as some kind of updated puffier version (OG version = old guy version?). On the éS website it says "The most iconic skate shoe ever – unchanged since ’95 and still unstoppable. This is the one. The shoe that changed skateboarding forever. Originally released in 1995, the éS Accel OG is the most iconic, most respected skate shoe of all time—voted #1 skate shoe again and again by the skaters who know".

Yeah, that's the problem.
Good call. Will try to get it changed. Thx.

That’s been my beef with the OG version. I had the Muska colorway back in 2010 and it even had a different feel to it. This one is way too puffy. I can only hope they’ll keep the original shape and phase out the OG version.

I paid no attention to eS/Accel OG for a long while and when I saw the OG in about 2015, I thought it was a joke shoe they'd made. It's so big. But yeah, hoping that this works out and the proper (Accel Prime, as it just got called in the other thread) ends up as the standard...and the "Accel OG" disappears.

[Atiba Applebum]

TJ Rogers has a pro shoe coming out

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I for one love the puff, I could understand how someone wouldn’t tho.

I really just want some room in the toe box, idc what rich people thought was cool in the fucking 1600s my pinky toe is screaming

[yourfuckingdad]

I for one love the puff, I could understand how someone wouldn’t tho.

I really just want some room in the toe box, idc what rich people thought was cool in the fucking 1600s my pinky toe is screaming

Yeah I like the puffy ones too, but that's what I had as a kid. I never had the slimmer ones. They're so ugly but very comfortable and skate great.

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TJ Rogers has a pro shoe coming out

there needs to be a bubble added to the guy falling out the with this in it.