Jamie Thomas's new shoe company?

[thehogsniper]

I think this highlights the issue brands face regardless of who runs them. LR is well marketed garbage with a likeable team. Opus and Warsaw are made better (having seen all in real life it's extremely obvious), but the marketing isn't there to justify the price or product. If either were being made by the brand that they are most aesthetically similar to no one would care.

I just don't think there is really anything that they're doing right. Virtually everything about War Saw is out of touch and irrelevant in today's market, it's out of touch with what fundamentally the consumer is looking for. The marketplace is already jam packed with more companies than ever trying to get their foot in the door and get their product on shelves, but demand for footwear is declining, and a lot of stores are having issues moving product. The NineClub podcast was essentially a two and half hour introduction to an entirely new brand of footwear from the face of the brand. It was supposed to be a way to grab attention and convince people to jump in and give it a try, but the entire episode reeks of typical nine-club toxic positivity and pats on the back, stroking a former legend's ego even further. Even if you go into the episode with a completely open mind, you will leave with no reason to buy into what he's selling. I really don't think JT went to trade shows or talked to people who could have steered him right on this, or dissuaded him from sinking such a large sum of money into something that was so under baked. War Saw, from the name to the logo to the website is half cooked and lazy. It has no substance whatsoever. There are no video parts that are premiering, there are no pros that are signed, there is nothing other than the faint whisper of what has been done a decade or more before. If he had given it another year or too, taken his time with it and really fallen in love with making skate shoes, he could have done something noteworthy. He could have gotten a foothold in the marketplace. But, this is the wrong product for the wrong consumer at the wrong time, in a market that is already oversaturated with similar products.

Also, from the outside looking in, Last Resort is not doing good. Demand for their product has cratered, shops are clearing out their inventory at below cost, their product is substandard and their team is about the only reason they're still alive.

The proof is in the pudding.

[BeachChicken]

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I think this highlights the issue brands face regardless of who runs them. LR is well marketed garbage with a likeable team. Opus and Warsaw are made better (having seen all in real life it's extremely obvious), but the marketing isn't there to justify the price or product. If either were being made by the brand that they are most aesthetically similar to no one would care.

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I just don't think there is really anything that they're doing right. Virtually everything about War Saw is out of touch and irrelevant in today's market, it's out of touch with what fundamentally the consumer is looking for. The marketplace is already jam packed with more companies than ever trying to get their foot in the door and get their product on shelves, but demand for footwear is declining, and a lot of stores are having issues moving product. The NineClub podcast was essentially a two and half hour introduction to an entirely new brand of footwear from the face of the brand. It was supposed to be a way to grab attention and convince people to jump in and give it a try, but the entire episode reeks of typical nine-club toxic positivity and pats on the back, stroking a former legend's ego even further. Even if you go into the episode with a completely open mind, you will leave with no reason to buy into what he's selling. I really don't think JT went to trade shows or talked to people who could have steered him right on this, or dissuaded him from sinking such a large sum of money into something that was so under baked. War Saw, from the name to the logo to the website is half cooked and lazy. It has no substance whatsoever. There are no video parts that are premiering, there are no pros that are signed, there is nothing other than the faint whisper of what has been done a decade or more before. If he had given it another year or too, taken his time with it and really fallen in love with making skate shoes, he could have done something noteworthy. He could have gotten a foothold in the marketplace. But, this is the wrong product for the wrong consumer at the wrong time, in a market that is already oversaturated with similar products.

Also, from the outside looking in, Last Resort is not doing good. Demand for their product has cratered, shops are clearing out their inventory at below cost, their product is substandard and their team is about the only reason they're still alive.

The proof is in the pudding.

I can't comment on demand in other areas but I see a lot of kids wearing LR still. When I saw the Warsaws the sole, foxing tape glue, overall construction, fit, and materials were all nicer. They got the product quality right, but if it's not what people want then sure it won't sell. You're right that the market already has what they're offering I can't dispute that my point was only that people care more about the marketing than product quality. Look at all the people clinging to Sole Tech garbage.

[Keef Hernandez]

The Warsaw shoes looks like something you'd find hanging on a plastic hanger at K-Mart or RiteAid, like so cheap they don't even deserve a box. Guessing majority of the sales will be through discount stores like Marshall's. There are no metal eyelets, the vegan collar looks like something from the halloween store and entire shoe is single stitched where the LRAB is all double stitched. You can tell the rubber and leather are nicer just by the photos, and synthetic leather in the Warsaw is trash.

[TreyPhillip]

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No metal eyelets because that costs like penny more.

The LRAB we have at home

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Weird how you pick out the metal eyelets when one shoe is synthetic suede and synthetic leather and the other is cavas. I wonder which cost more??? Also there are metal eyelets if you actually look close, the top definitely has them. AND you realize that siloute has been around since at least the early 70’s if not sooner. Comparing Warsaw to last resort is the last resort of someone that just wants to hate on Jamie. It’s not like he’s hiding what you all keep pointing out.

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Nah… the shoes are just cheap shit

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Are they? You own a pair? Just the complete opposite of how they are being marketed. Common siloutes with better materials.  Guess you must me talking about the ones your comparing them to, because they are literally canvas.

I’m pretty sure canvas, a material made from cotton cost more than whatever synthetic polyester based material Warsaw is using.

[Weeb_poser]

Wack shoes for wack cunts

[Streebo]

He's only gotta few years left in this game. Lay off the old man

[Not_Bruce]

I think this highlights the issue brands face regardless of who runs them. LR is well marketed garbage with a likeable team. Opus and Warsaw are made better (having seen all in real life it's extremely obvious), but the marketing isn't there to justify the price or product. If either were being made by the brand that they are most aesthetically similar to no one would care.

I have skated 3 pairs of Last Resort shoes, I would disagree with them being garbage. Soletech = garbage , Lakai = garbage …. Maybe I have been lucky but the last 3 pair of last resorts I have had skated good and held up. Getting older so only skating 3 days a week for context.

[Francis Xavier]

As a joke, I asked my wife if she would buy me this new shoe brand called War Saw, and she shook her head looking at me asking "What kind of stupid name is that?" "No."

In that moment. I knew I married the right person.

[Abyss1]

As a joke, I asked my wife if she would buy me this new shoe brand called War Saw, and she shook her head looking at me asking "What kind of stupid name is that?" "No."

In that moment. I knew I married the right person.

lol that's awesome

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No metal eyelets because that costs like penny more.

The LRAB we have at home

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Weird how you pick out the metal eyelets when one shoe is synthetic suede and synthetic leather and the other is cavas. I wonder which cost more??? Also there are metal eyelets if you actually look close, the top definitely has them. AND you realize that siloute has been around since at least the early 70’s if not sooner. Comparing Warsaw to last resort is the last resort of someone that just wants to hate on Jamie. It’s not like he’s hiding what you all keep pointing out.

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Nah… the shoes are just cheap shit

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Are they? You own a pair? Just the complete opposite of how they are being marketed. Common siloutes with better materials.  Guess you must me talking about the ones your comparing them to, because they are literally canvas.

Yeah, they are.
Why you got such a hard on for Warsaw dude

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No metal eyelets because that costs like penny more.

The LRAB we have at home

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Weird how you pick out the metal eyelets when one shoe is synthetic suede and synthetic leather and the other is cavas. I wonder which cost more??? Also there are metal eyelets if you actually look close, the top definitely has them. AND you realize that siloute has been around since at least the early 70’s if not sooner. Comparing Warsaw to last resort is the last resort of someone that just wants to hate on Jamie. It’s not like he’s hiding what you all keep pointing out.

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Nah… the shoes are just cheap shit

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Are they? You own a pair? Just the complete opposite of how they are being marketed. Common siloutes with better materials.  Guess you must me talking about the ones your comparing them to, because they are literally canvas.

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Yeah, they are.
Why you got such a hard on for Warsaw dude

The question actually is why do y’all act like it’s ain’t a better quality shoe ad far as materials go. It’s literally the point of the shoe. Higher quality timeless/common silhouettes. It’s like you can’t read or right or look at pictures. This thread is just full of people that just want another reason to shit on Jamie.

[TreyPhillip]

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No metal eyelets because that costs like penny more.

The LRAB we have at home

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Weird how you pick out the metal eyelets when one shoe is synthetic suede and synthetic leather and the other is cavas. I wonder which cost more??? Also there are metal eyelets if you actually look close, the top definitely has them. AND you realize that siloute has been around since at least the early 70’s if not sooner. Comparing Warsaw to last resort is the last resort of someone that just wants to hate on Jamie. It’s not like he’s hiding what you all keep pointing out.

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Nah… the shoes are just cheap shit

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Are they? You own a pair? Just the complete opposite of how they are being marketed. Common siloutes with better materials.  Guess you must me talking about the ones your comparing them to, because they are literally canvas.

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I’m pretty sure canvas, a material made from cotton cost more than whatever synthetic polyester based material Warsaw is using.

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Hahahaha you actually think that???!

Maybe I’m uninformed but I can’t find any information stating that polyester cost more than canvas, quite the opposite actually. If you could direct me to whatever source you’re getting that from that would be greatly appreciated tho, I’ve been wrong before.

https://northshorecrafts.com/is-polyester-cheaper-than-cotton/#Polyester_Production_Process

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No metal eyelets because that costs like penny more.

The LRAB we have at home

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Weird how you pick out the metal eyelets when one shoe is synthetic suede and synthetic leather and the other is cavas. I wonder which cost more??? Also there are metal eyelets if you actually look close, the top definitely has them. AND you realize that siloute has been around since at least the early 70’s if not sooner. Comparing Warsaw to last resort is the last resort of someone that just wants to hate on Jamie. It’s not like he’s hiding what you all keep pointing out.

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Nah… the shoes are just cheap shit

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Are they? You own a pair? Just the complete opposite of how they are being marketed. Common siloutes with better materials.  Guess you must me talking about the ones your comparing them to, because they are literally canvas.

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I’m pretty sure canvas, a material made from cotton cost more than whatever synthetic polyester based material Warsaw is using.

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Hahahaha you actually think that???!

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Maybe I’m uninformed but I can’t find any information stating that polyester cost more than canvas, quite the opposite actually. If you could direct me to whatever source you’re getting that from that would be greatly appreciated tho, I’ve been wrong before.

https://northshorecrafts.com/is-polyester-cheaper-than-cotton/#Polyester_Production_Process

Hey I thought I deleted that LOL Turns out you’re correct they are about the same cost with small variables leaner towards one or the other being cheaper. At least that’s what perplexity told me. I’ll also add that it was Jamie on the 9 show giving the impression that synthetic suede is expensive to produce. Now that I know it’s not why is there not so much more of it being used? Vegan plus from recycled materials is a win win.

[work_lurker]

focus this thread already

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No metal eyelets because that costs like penny more.

The LRAB we have at home

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Weird how you pick out the metal eyelets when one shoe is synthetic suede and synthetic leather and the other is cavas. I wonder which cost more??? Also there are metal eyelets if you actually look close, the top definitely has them. AND you realize that siloute has been around since at least the early 70’s if not sooner. Comparing Warsaw to last resort is the last resort of someone that just wants to hate on Jamie. It’s not like he’s hiding what you all keep pointing out.

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Nah… the shoes are just cheap shit

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Are they? You own a pair? Just the complete opposite of how they are being marketed. Common siloutes with better materials.  Guess you must me talking about the ones your comparing them to, because they are literally canvas.

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I’m pretty sure canvas, a material made from cotton cost more than whatever synthetic polyester based material Warsaw is using.

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Hahahaha you actually think that???!

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Maybe I’m uninformed but I can’t find any information stating that polyester cost more than canvas, quite the opposite actually. If you could direct me to whatever source you’re getting that from that would be greatly appreciated tho, I’ve been wrong before.

https://northshorecrafts.com/is-polyester-cheaper-than-cotton/#Polyester_Production_Process

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Hey I thought I deleted that LOL Turns out you’re correct they are about the same cost with small variables leaner towards one or the other being cheaper. At least that’s what perplexity told me. I’ll also add that it was Jamie on the 9 show giving the impression that synthetic suede is expensive to produce. Now that I know it’s not why is there not so much more of it being used? Vegan plus from recycled materials is a win win.

Jamie said that cuz he wants us to buy his low quality shoes and is tryna pass them off and market them as high quality, that shouldn’t be that hard to believe.
Sole tech replaces lots of the interior panels on their suede shoes with synthetic suede because it’s cheaper and no one will notice, not because it’s a high quality material.
Also I have never seen a synthetic suede skate shoe that uses recycled polyester and I don’t know where you’re getting any information that states Warsaws as such.
Please improve your media literacy.

[Francis Xavier]

Even if they're made with "premium materials" they could have shitty production and QA. JT threw out all the proper phrases to sell these shoes. Haven't seen any in person, and it'll probably be a while until I do.

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No metal eyelets because that costs like penny more.

The LRAB we have at home

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Weird how you pick out the metal eyelets when one shoe is synthetic suede and synthetic leather and the other is cavas. I wonder which cost more??? Also there are metal eyelets if you actually look close, the top definitely has them. AND you realize that siloute has been around since at least the early 70’s if not sooner. Comparing Warsaw to last resort is the last resort of someone that just wants to hate on Jamie. It’s not like he’s hiding what you all keep pointing out.

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Nah… the shoes are just cheap shit

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Are they? You own a pair? Just the complete opposite of how they are being marketed. Common siloutes with better materials.  Guess you must me talking about the ones your comparing them to, because they are literally canvas.

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I’m pretty sure canvas, a material made from cotton cost more than whatever synthetic polyester based material Warsaw is using.

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Hahahaha you actually think that???!

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Maybe I’m uninformed but I can’t find any information stating that polyester cost more than canvas, quite the opposite actually. If you could direct me to whatever source you’re getting that from that would be greatly appreciated tho, I’ve been wrong before.

https://northshorecrafts.com/is-polyester-cheaper-than-cotton/#Polyester_Production_Process

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Hey I thought I deleted that LOL Turns out you’re correct they are about the same cost with small variables leaner towards one or the other being cheaper. At least that’s what perplexity told me. I’ll also add that it was Jamie on the 9 show giving the impression that synthetic suede is expensive to produce. Now that I know it’s not why is there not so much more of it being used? Vegan plus from recycled materials is a win win.

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Jamie said that cuz he wants us to buy his low quality shoes and is tryna pass them off and market them as high quality, that shouldn’t be that hard to believe.
Sole tech replaces lots of the interior panels on their suede shoes with synthetic suede because it’s cheaper and no one will notice, not because it’s a high quality material.
Also I have never seen a synthetic suede skate shoe that uses recycled polyester and I don’t know where you’re getting any information that states Warsaws as such.
Please improve your media literacy.

Hmm well I don’t recall mentioning anything about the polyester alone, it’s combined with polyethylene to produce synthetic suede. Here’s a few examples of skate shoes that use it:

   •   Etnies Jameson Eco
   •   New Balance 425
   •   Adidas Busenitz Pro
   •   Emerica Pillar Shoes

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No metal eyelets because that costs like penny more.

The LRAB we have at home

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Weird how you pick out the metal eyelets when one shoe is synthetic suede and synthetic leather and the other is cavas. I wonder which cost more??? Also there are metal eyelets if you actually look close, the top definitely has them. AND you realize that siloute has been around since at least the early 70’s if not sooner. Comparing Warsaw to last resort is the last resort of someone that just wants to hate on Jamie. It’s not like he’s hiding what you all keep pointing out.

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Nah… the shoes are just cheap shit

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Are they? You own a pair? Just the complete opposite of how they are being marketed. Common siloutes with better materials.  Guess you must me talking about the ones your comparing them to, because they are literally canvas.

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I’m pretty sure canvas, a material made from cotton cost more than whatever synthetic polyester based material Warsaw is using.

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Hahahaha you actually think that???!

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Maybe I’m uninformed but I can’t find any information stating that polyester cost more than canvas, quite the opposite actually. If you could direct me to whatever source you’re getting that from that would be greatly appreciated tho, I’ve been wrong before.

https://northshorecrafts.com/is-polyester-cheaper-than-cotton/#Polyester_Production_Process

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Hey I thought I deleted that LOL Turns out you’re correct they are about the same cost with small variables leaner towards one or the other being cheaper. At least that’s what perplexity told me. I’ll also add that it was Jamie on the 9 show giving the impression that synthetic suede is expensive to produce. Now that I know it’s not why is there not so much more of it being used? Vegan plus from recycled materials is a win win.

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Jamie said that cuz he wants us to buy his low quality shoes and is tryna pass them off and market them as high quality, that shouldn’t be that hard to believe.
Sole tech replaces lots of the interior panels on their suede shoes with synthetic suede because it’s cheaper and no one will notice, not because it’s a high quality material.
Also I have never seen a synthetic suede skate shoe that uses recycled polyester and I don’t know where you’re getting any information that states Warsaws as such.
Please improve your media literacy.

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Hmm well I don’t recall mentioning anything about the polyester alone, it’s combined with polyethylene to produce synthetic suede. Here’s a few examples of skate shoes that use it:

   •   Etnies Jameson Eco
   •   New Balance 425
   •   Adidas Busenitz Pro
   •   Emerica Pillar Shoes

bro please just let us fuckin hate in peace

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No metal eyelets because that costs like penny more.

The LRAB we have at home

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Weird how you pick out the metal eyelets when one shoe is synthetic suede and synthetic leather and the other is cavas. I wonder which cost more??? Also there are metal eyelets if you actually look close, the top definitely has them. AND you realize that siloute has been around since at least the early 70’s if not sooner. Comparing Warsaw to last resort is the last resort of someone that just wants to hate on Jamie. It’s not like he’s hiding what you all keep pointing out.

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Nah… the shoes are just cheap shit

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Are they? You own a pair? Just the complete opposite of how they are being marketed. Common siloutes with better materials.  Guess you must me talking about the ones your comparing them to, because they are literally canvas.

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I’m pretty sure canvas, a material made from cotton cost more than whatever synthetic polyester based material Warsaw is using.

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Hahahaha you actually think that???!

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Maybe I’m uninformed but I can’t find any information stating that polyester cost more than canvas, quite the opposite actually. If you could direct me to whatever source you’re getting that from that would be greatly appreciated tho, I’ve been wrong before.

https://northshorecrafts.com/is-polyester-cheaper-than-cotton/#Polyester_Production_Process

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Hey I thought I deleted that LOL Turns out you’re correct they are about the same cost with small variables leaner towards one or the other being cheaper. At least that’s what perplexity told me. I’ll also add that it was Jamie on the 9 show giving the impression that synthetic suede is expensive to produce. Now that I know it’s not why is there not so much more of it being used? Vegan plus from recycled materials is a win win.

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Jamie said that cuz he wants us to buy his low quality shoes and is tryna pass them off and market them as high quality, that shouldn’t be that hard to believe.
Sole tech replaces lots of the interior panels on their suede shoes with synthetic suede because it’s cheaper and no one will notice, not because it’s a high quality material.
Also I have never seen a synthetic suede skate shoe that uses recycled polyester and I don’t know where you’re getting any information that states Warsaws as such.
Please improve your media literacy.

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Hmm well I don’t recall mentioning anything about the polyester alone, it’s combined with polyethylene to produce synthetic suede. Here’s a few examples of skate shoes that use it:

   •   Etnies Jameson Eco
   •   New Balance 425
   •   Adidas Busenitz Pro
   •   Emerica Pillar Shoes

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bro please just let us fuckin hate in peace

Carry on

[Watson]

It’s like you can’t read or right or look at pictures.

Beauty.

[DannyShimizuSupa]

I got the black lows and I must say the quality blew me away

[fuck_that_guy]

fuck that guy

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Jimbo Thomas’ last resort

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This picture says it all. It makes Jamie's interview on the Nine Club seem distorted. In the interview, Jamie talked about all the effort he put into Warsaw. But in reality, it's a poor imitation of Last Resort. The $250,000 question for Jamie is.....why make a brand when everything you want to achieve Last Resort is doing better, and has a skate team. The only plausible scenario that comes to my mind is, that Jamie had nobody willing to tell him his ideas are unoriginal / poorly executed and that life is short and he should focus his energy on his family and zero.

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Can't believe I have to explain this but Jamie want money. Jamie have to sell shoe to make money, Pontus don't give Jamie money.

Spot on summary. If you prefer to gave Jamie money over Pontus - War Saw is your brand.
Dont talk shit about quality - they both buy at the cheapest sweatshop in china as possible with this low qty.
Quality will vary from batch to batch, since both are too small / weak in purchase power to push
suppliers and having proper local quality control. 

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Jimbo Thomas’ last resort

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This picture says it all. It makes Jamie's interview on the Nine Club seem distorted. In the interview, Jamie talked about all the effort he put into Warsaw. But in reality, it's a poor imitation of Last Resort. The $250,000 question for Jamie is.....why make a brand when everything you want to achieve Last Resort is doing better, and has a skate team. The only plausible scenario that comes to my mind is, that Jamie had nobody willing to tell him his ideas are unoriginal / poorly executed and that life is short and he should focus his energy on his family and zero.

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Can't believe I have to explain this but Jamie want money. Jamie have to sell shoe to make money, Pontus don't give Jamie money.

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Spot on summary. If you prefer to gave Jamie money over Pontus - War Saw is your brand.
Dont talk shit about quality - they both buy at the cheapest sweatshop in china as possible with this low qty.
Quality will vary from batch to batch, since both are too small / weak in purchase power to push
suppliers and having proper local quality control.

LRAB goods are manufactured in Vietnam [except for the $120+ shirts/pants which are made in Poland]. It says it on the inside tag of the shoe and even the shoe box.

Quality of shoes vary by drop because they make adjustments such as changing the insole and the rubber for the outsole. Also, LRAB probably doesn't have as low of a purchase power as Warsaw, considering they sell to Zalando and Zumiez. I would agree that most of what you said probably does apply to LRAB for at least the first 8 drops. However, they're on drop 16 and have made noticeable improvements. The shoes are nothing like drop 1, where the VM001 outsole lasted for 15-20 hours at most.

[Sk.A.T.A.N]

This thread is basically a bunch of people talking about shoes, materials, quality without knowing shit about it. There’s a thousand nuances to production that are not being taken in consideration here. Not every canvas is the same price or quality, not every synthetic suede/leather is the same. Shoe construction, insoles, details, prints, labels, sole molds, packaging, labor cost (the production country matters a lot when price is in question) and specially order quantity…


Anyway, those shoes fucking suck and J.Thomas is clueless.

[moonordie]

This thread is basically a bunch of people talking about shoes, materials, quality without knowing shit about it. There’s a thousand nuances to production that are not being taken in consideration here. Not every canvas is the same price or quality, not every synthetic suede/leather is the same. Shoe construction, insoles, details, prints, labels, sole molds, packaging, labor cost (the production country matters a lot when price is in question) and specially order quantity…


Anyway, those shoes fucking suck and J.Thomas is clueless.

That's all that matters in the end.

[rawr1922]

Anybody try a pair of Hours is Yours?

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Jimbo Thomas’ last resort

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This picture says it all. It makes Jamie's interview on the Nine Club seem distorted. In the interview, Jamie talked about all the effort he put into Warsaw. But in reality, it's a poor imitation of Last Resort. The $250,000 question for Jamie is.....why make a brand when everything you want to achieve Last Resort is doing better, and has a skate team. The only plausible scenario that comes to my mind is, that Jamie had nobody willing to tell him his ideas are unoriginal / poorly executed and that life is short and he should focus his energy on his family and zero.

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Can't believe I have to explain this but Jamie want money. Jamie have to sell shoe to make money, Pontus don't give Jamie money.

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Spot on summary. If you prefer to gave Jamie money over Pontus - War Saw is your brand.
Dont talk shit about quality - they both buy at the cheapest sweatshop in china as possible with this low qty.
Quality will vary from batch to batch, since both are too small / weak in purchase power to push
suppliers and having proper local quality control.

No one seems to know about this but LRab are made in a fair wage factory in Vietnam.

[work_lurker]

Anybody try a pair of Hours is Yours?

I bought a pair of the loafers to chill in. The sole was really bad and the fit was off. I read their fit guide, and it was more confusing than helpful, I tried to compensate accordingly and the shoes were just too big. Let me be clear that I double and triple checked the specific model shoe I had and their recommended sizing for that model. I emailed the customer service and let them know that the shoes were probably true to size, and was just offering feedback, not looking to return them or refund or anything crazy. Never heard back from them. I do not wear the shoes anymore, the sole just started to disintegrate, and the back of the shoes wore really quickly too. Not the greatest quality at all.

Not sure about the skate models, but I would be weary, and only buy the sale models. I would have been so bummed if I paid the full price for the loafers (like $120 or something). I was only a little bummed paying half price for them.

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Anybody try a pair of Hours is Yours?

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I bought a pair of the loafers to chill in. The sole was really bad and the fit was off. I read their fit guide, and it was more confusing than helpful, I tried to compensate accordingly and the shoes were just too big. Let me be clear that I double and triple checked the specific model shoe I had and their recommended sizing for that model. I emailed the customer service and let them know that the shoes were probably true to size, and was just offering feedback, not looking to return them or refund or anything crazy. Never heard back from them. I do not wear the shoes anymore, the sole just started to disintegrate, and the back of the shoes wore really quickly too. Not the greatest quality at all.

Not sure about the skate models, but I would be weary, and only buy the sale models. I would have been so bummed if I paid the full price for the loafers (like $120 or something). I was only a little bummed paying half price for them.

I recently got some loafers. The sizing was not an issue for me. Been wearing them for a week and the quality is good so far. Not $120 good, but i paid $50 i think. Compared to other $50 loafers ive had, they are pretty good.

How long were you wearing them before the sole disintegrated?

I have not skated a pair of hours so no comment on that aspect.