What’s the best curb *angle* for slappies

[Septa Bus]

Buuuut bring someone who skates those slightly slanted curbs to east coast. I bet they would struggle for a regs slappy! that being said the proper angle is 7.

[Chavo]

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I suppose I could try one sometime, but I just dont think so. No one even did them till like 5 years ago, its totally a trend.

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haha, you must be trolling

You have to read it aloud in a Valley girl accent to get the full effect.

[radcunt]

Anything that isn't the standard NSW Australia 1 inch drop from the asphalt to the concrete, angle down to a vertical 25cm rough curb.  If I was a kid on the street i grew up in now, i'd just concrete those shits flush to the road and have at it, but there was only one curb that we could slappy in our town.

[Plan9Customs]

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This is the mellow one I was referring to:

It’s almost a 55* cut.
The curb itself isn’t that much of a problem, variety and such, I have more of an issue with wax abuses on such mellow curbs. If you want long nose/tails, hit a steeper curb. Don’t try to force it to do something it can’t.

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What is wax abuse? I’m fine with a thick layer of wax as long as it’s not on the ground.

I’d say putting half a block of wax on the curb. Pretty much if I can take 1 half assed push and get a 10-20’ truck slide. It’s not a grind if you need that much wax. Sorry.
I’m not against wax. But you either need to know how to properly prep a curb or when to stop waxing. It’s not as bad when it’s on a steeper curb, but half a block on a super mellow curb is bullshit. If my 50+ year old ass can grind 10’ w/o waxing the living shit out of it, there’s something wrong with you if you can’t. That’s just sad.

[j....soy.....]

Said like a true 50 year old man……in a curb thread no less….

[ChipSuey]

All I know is 90 degree curbs.  Currently trying to learn slappies on a 90 degree 5-6" curb that I turned from raw white concrete to basically marble with an angle grinder, rub brick and laquer.

[rawbertson.]

it depends on the slappy you are trying to do, but imo a mellow one always felt a lot easier than a complete wall / oververt for 5050s. just feels like you are riding up a tiny quarter pipe lol.

if you are trying to hold a long crook or noseslide though, i think a more squared wall is always going to be more ideal. the rounded ones tend to spit you out more as others have mentioned. sometimes the roundedness can help you do like noseslide > crook combos though, but then its harder to hold then for longer distances.

i dont think you need hardly any wax for a 5050, but for a crooked grind or any slide trick you need tons of wax, so i dont really understand the "wax abuse" thing. imo the more the better, why leave up to chance getting stuck? I try not to waste my time / wax either so i try to only wax when i absolutely need it, i also cant stand getting wax on my grip and soemtimes when you want to learn a new trick you actually dont want it to be super slick just so you can get the feel for it first. lots of reasons you dont necessarily need to wax every time too.

[SatanicPanic]

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This is the mellow one I was referring to:

It’s almost a 55* cut.
The curb itself isn’t that much of a problem, variety and such, I have more of an issue with wax abuses on such mellow curbs. If you want long nose/tails, hit a steeper curb. Don’t try to force it to do something it can’t.

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What is wax abuse? I’m fine with a thick layer of wax as long as it’s not on the ground.

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I’d say putting half a block of wax on the curb. Pretty much if I can take 1 half assed push and get a 10-20’ truck slide. It’s not a grind if you need that much wax. Sorry.
I’m not against wax. But you either need to know how to properly prep a curb or when to stop waxing. It’s not as bad when it’s on a steeper curb, but half a block on a super mellow curb is bullshit. If my 50+ year old ass can grind 10’ w/o waxing the living shit out of it, there’s something wrong with you if you can’t. That’s just sad.

I don’t get why people get upset about it. I can skate crusty curbs or icy curbs or sloppy waxed curbs, it’s not that different to me. Is it harder for you to skate or is this about being a hellride old-timer?

(For the record I’m in my mid-40ss)

[Tommy G]

Ive never done a slappy and I plan to go to my grave without ever doing one. They just dont look fun.

I said this and then finally learned the right way to do them. Like someone said, slappies are hard until they're easy.

[radcunt]

it depends on the slappy you are trying to do, but imo a mellow one always felt a lot easier than a complete wall / oververt for 5050s. just feels like you are riding up a tiny quarter pipe lol.

if you are trying to hold a long crook or noseslide though, i think a more squared wall is always going to be more ideal. the rounded ones tend to spit you out more as others have mentioned. sometimes the roundedness can help you do like noseslide > crook combos though, but then its harder to hold then for longer distances.

i dont think you need hardly any wax for a 5050, but for a crooked grind or any slide trick you need tons of wax, so i dont really understand the "wax abuse" thing. imo the more the better, why leave up to chance getting stuck? I try not to waste my time / wax either so i try to only wax when i absolutely need it, i also cant stand getting wax on my grip and soemtimes when you want to learn a new trick you actually dont want it to be super slick just so you can get the feel for it first. lots of reasons you dont necessarily need to wax every time too.

When theres no sound or friction they definitely lose some magic.  You wanna feel like you're destroying something.

[BartHarleyJarvis]

This is the mellow one I was referring to:

It’s almost a 55* cut.
The curb itself isn’t that much of a problem, variety and such, I have more of an issue with wax abuses on such mellow curbs. If you want long nose/tails, hit a steeper curb. Don’t try to force it to do something it can’t.

Just for arguments sake, to me, a curb with that much angle is basically like a little bank t almost stops being a slappy. That magc of a slappy is levitating up the face of a curb.

Also, I know this will sound gatekeep-y, but like others have said slappies are really hard until they aren't. I feel like any skateboarder could probably get a little grind on a curb like this because it's a little bank. To me it isn't necessarily the same thing.

ALL THAT BEING SAID, that curb looks super fun, would spend a whole afternoon on that thing.

[SatanicPanic]

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it depends on the slappy you are trying to do, but imo a mellow one always felt a lot easier than a complete wall / oververt for 5050s. just feels like you are riding up a tiny quarter pipe lol.

if you are trying to hold a long crook or noseslide though, i think a more squared wall is always going to be more ideal. the rounded ones tend to spit you out more as others have mentioned. sometimes the roundedness can help you do like noseslide > crook combos though, but then its harder to hold then for longer distances.

i dont think you need hardly any wax for a 5050, but for a crooked grind or any slide trick you need tons of wax, so i dont really understand the "wax abuse" thing. imo the more the better, why leave up to chance getting stuck? I try not to waste my time / wax either so i try to only wax when i absolutely need it, i also cant stand getting wax on my grip and soemtimes when you want to learn a new trick you actually dont want it to be super slick just so you can get the feel for it first. lots of reasons you dont necessarily need to wax every time too.

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When theres no sound or friction they definitely lose some magic.  You wanna feel like you're destroying something.

Ah ok this all makes sense.

What’s everyone’s magic angle for feebles? That trick is super dependent on the curb for me- sometimes it’s really frustrating other times it’s super easy. I find that if the curb is too steep it’s hard to carve out of.

[rawbertson.]

i agree chomping a crunchy curb is really satisfying. i have done a few curbs where i just used an old indy to scrape it down and wax for this reason. but you cant really do anything besides bs 5050s on those.

you really do need to slick it up for pretty mcuh the rest of tricks, or else it just doesnt even really work nearly the same. and doing just 5050s gets kinda boring after awhile. i find even for fs slappys at least the way i do them it needs to be quite a bit more slick or else i just go into a nosegrind stall.

i suck at feebles still but i finally learned them decent this summer. i find the wider the ledge / rail the more difficult because you seemingly have less room for error (less room to place the wood and more chance you will fall out to boardslide or touch wheel to inside wall and stick) and also i prefer more of a wall / steeper because it holds the wheel in way better. I have a double sider that is really narrow maybe 2" wide with an ending on it and i can feeble it pretty much every try vs. another curb i have is 4" wide or so and i have to pop out middle and its way harder. feels like i have to place the rail in just the right spot.

[art hellman]

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80 to 90 degrees for me.
anything 5" or under has to be 90. if its a 8"er that slight angle helps for 50/50s. feel it doesn't matter for crooks.
japanese curbs are my favorite. they're practicly straight. nice hight, just round enough to not bite. and they use them almost all over the country.

70 degrees angles arn't even slappys. theres no technique needed for that. was in a skatepark the other day that had some of those, i have to hold back to not completely overshoot them the whole time.
and they suck ass for grind to slide variations.



unpopulair opinion. a short grind and a 90 degree tall ass curb is much more satisfying than a long ass grind on any medium sized slanted curb.

[skunty]

I feel like some of yalls perceptions of angles is a bit messed up. are you sayin the famous santa monica doubled sided curb isnt a real slappy? cuz its about 70 degrees, about like the red curb plan9customs posted

[fakiefs180]

sharper vertical curbs definitely feel more satisfying to get into and the lock-in is better. i find myself getting lazy when slappying angled curbs and just missing the front truck lock-in a lot of the time

I feel the same. That one time I tried to slappy a angled parking block curb I got absolutely destroyed.

[BartHarleyJarvis]

I feel like some of yalls perceptions of angles is a bit messed up. are you sayin the famous santa monica doubled sided curb isnt a real slappy? cuz its about 70 degrees, about like the red curb plan9customs posted

We are getting into break out the protractor territory, but this isn't close to correct. The SM double sided curbs are significantly steeper than Plan9s curb. They're also pretty tall.

[Plan9Customs]

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This is the mellow one I was referring to:

It’s almost a 55* cut.
The curb itself isn’t that much of a problem, variety and such, I have more of an issue with wax abuses on such mellow curbs. If you want long nose/tails, hit a steeper curb. Don’t try to force it to do something it can’t.

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What is wax abuse? I’m fine with a thick layer of wax as long as it’s not on the ground.

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I’d say putting half a block of wax on the curb. Pretty much if I can take 1 half assed push and get a 10-20’ truck slide. It’s not a grind if you need that much wax. Sorry.
I’m not against wax. But you either need to know how to properly prep a curb or when to stop waxing. It’s not as bad when it’s on a steeper curb, but half a block on a super mellow curb is bullshit. If my 50+ year old ass can grind 10’ w/o waxing the living shit out of it, there’s something wrong with you if you can’t. That’s just sad.

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I don’t get why people get upset about it. I can skate crusty curbs or icy curbs or sloppy waxed curbs, it’s not that different to me. Is it harder for you to skate or is this about being a hellride old-timer?

(For the record I’m in my mid-40ss)

I’m about as far away from hellride as you could be. I just grew up with if it didn’t grind we’ll take another push or 2 after a few it will. That said, the super mellow curb pictured is what I try to learn new stuff or switch stuff. The over waxing the TOP of the curb is what I can’t stand about that. I’ve stepped off on a switch back grind and slid on my feet for almost 4’. Super mellow shit doesn’t need the living crap waxed out of it. A tiny bank(or they call it a curb) is near impossible to lock in on so skipping the top just makes it a death trap. One of my friends got a dislocated shoulder and 2 busted ribs on the curb pictured from slipping out on the top.
 As I said before,
I don’t care about it in steeper curbs because you can actually lock into stuff. A curb that is basically a 45* angle isn’t the one to do that shit on. That said, if I’m trying to learn stuff on the training wheels curb I bring a scraper now. I’ve also got some real curbs I’ve started hitting that are shaded all day, unmolested, 90*ish, and 6” tall so I don’t really play on the tiny banks much anymore. The Jerhi Curl Curb Club can do what they want with it.
Ultimately, it just boggles my mind that instead of skating the curbs that are actually good for nose/tail slides(on the opposite side in the picture) they try to force the worse ones for those tricks to work.

@J….soy….
I know, right?

Heavenly:

[SatanicPanic]

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This is the mellow one I was referring to:

It’s almost a 55* cut.
The curb itself isn’t that much of a problem, variety and such, I have more of an issue with wax abuses on such mellow curbs. If you want long nose/tails, hit a steeper curb. Don’t try to force it to do something it can’t.

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What is wax abuse? I’m fine with a thick layer of wax as long as it’s not on the ground.

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I’d say putting half a block of wax on the curb. Pretty much if I can take 1 half assed push and get a 10-20’ truck slide. It’s not a grind if you need that much wax. Sorry.
I’m not against wax. But you either need to know how to properly prep a curb or when to stop waxing. It’s not as bad when it’s on a steeper curb, but half a block on a super mellow curb is bullshit. If my 50+ year old ass can grind 10’ w/o waxing the living shit out of it, there’s something wrong with you if you can’t. That’s just sad.

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I don’t get why people get upset about it. I can skate crusty curbs or icy curbs or sloppy waxed curbs, it’s not that different to me. Is it harder for you to skate or is this about being a hellride old-timer?

(For the record I’m in my mid-40ss)

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I’m about as far away from hellride as you could be. I just grew up with if it didn’t grind we’ll take another push or 2 after a few it will. That said, the super mellow curb pictured is what I try to learn new stuff or switch stuff. The over waxing the TOP of the curb is what I can’t stand about that. I’ve stepped off on a switch back grind and slid on my feet for almost 4’. Super mellow shit doesn’t need the living crap waxed out of it. A tiny bank(or they call it a curb) is near impossible to lock in on so skipping the top just makes it a death trap. One of my friends got a dislocated shoulder and 2 busted ribs on the curb pictured from slipping out on the top.
 As I said before,
I don’t care about it in steeper curbs because you can actually lock into stuff. A curb that is basically a 45* angle isn’t the one to do that shit on. That said, if I’m trying to learn stuff on the training wheels curb I bring a scraper now. I’ve also got some real curbs I’ve started hitting that are shaded all day, unmolested, 90*ish, and 6” tall so I don’t really play on the tiny banks much anymore. The Jerhi Curl Curb Club can do what they want with it.
Ultimately, it just boggles my mind that instead of skating the curbs that are actually good for nose/tail slides(on the opposite side in the picture) they try to force the worse ones for those tricks to work.

@J….soy….
I know, right?

Heavenly:

That sucks about your friend.

I think I’m blasé about it because everything here is waxed like crazy. I’m used to it and it’s nice to be able to try any trick at any spot. I skate fast but I’m also not trying to stress myself out trying to make a curb grind if it doesn’t want to without more wax. To each their own I guess.

[rawbertson.]

I find I dont usually need to ever wax the actual corner for the most part. maybe like once every season. It's just where the wheels and wood drag that needs to be icy. I did an experiment just waxing only the wheel part and noticed that made a massive difference on noseslides without evne having to touch the top. but it is still best to do both. i have had so many times where people do ONLY the top and then i still stick on the damn thing...

[NoComply180]

The shorter the curb the more vertical it should be, and vice versa, in my opinion. Except for noseslides then overall the more vertical the better.

[PolarJames]

I read this as what's the best angle to roll into a slappy grind lol. Thought that was getting super trick tip nerdy haha

Here in the UK kerbs are slightly angled but they're basically 90 degrees. Ideally they'd be more sloping but you get what you're given. Can make anything work with the right technique. A trip over to try californian red kerbs would be sick.

[JANUS]

Back in my day, wax didn’t even exist. If you wanted to slide faster, you had to go harpoon a whale and hand-wring its oils out over the curb, uphill, five miles in a hailstorm. And that’s only if you were too big of a baby to learn to slappy properly.

I’m also convinced that curbs with angle iron are harder to get your back truck onto than concrete curbs with the same geometry, but I’m probably skating improperly.

[skunty]

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I feel like some of yalls perceptions of angles is a bit messed up. are you sayin the famous santa monica doubled sided curb isnt a real slappy? cuz its about 70 degrees, about like the red curb plan9customs posted

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We are getting into break out the protractor territory, but this isn't close to correct. The SM double sided curbs are significantly steeper than Plan9s curb. They're also pretty tall.

break em out. would be sick honestly to have SM curb dimensions online for all to reference. one of you LA heads should hook it up. I'm sayin SM curb is 70-75 degrees and 6 inches tall. post9s is the same height and maaaybe 5 degrees less steep. pulled a screen grab of the curb for reference

[SatanicPanic]

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I feel like some of yalls perceptions of angles is a bit messed up. are you sayin the famous santa monica doubled sided curb isnt a real slappy? cuz its about 70 degrees, about like the red curb plan9customs posted

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We are getting into break out the protractor territory, but this isn't close to correct. The SM double sided curbs are significantly steeper than Plan9s curb. They're also pretty tall.

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break em out. would be sick honestly to have SM curb dimensions online for all to reference. one of you LA heads should hook it up. I'm sayin SM curb is 70-75 degrees and 6 inches tall. post9s is the same height and maaaybe 5 degrees less steep. pulled a screen grab of the curb for reference

I’d also be curious about the old ones that Natas was skating back in the day. Those looked super mellow

[skunty]

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I feel like some of yalls perceptions of angles is a bit messed up. are you sayin the famous santa monica doubled sided curb isnt a real slappy? cuz its about 70 degrees, about like the red curb plan9customs posted

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We are getting into break out the protractor territory, but this isn't close to correct. The SM double sided curbs are significantly steeper than Plan9s curb. They're also pretty tall.

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break em out. would be sick honestly to have SM curb dimensions online for all to reference. one of you LA heads should hook it up. I'm sayin SM curb is 70-75 degrees and 6 inches tall. post9s is the same height and maaaybe 5 degrees less steep. pulled a screen grab of the curb for reference

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I’d also be curious about the old ones that Natas was skating back in the day. Those looked super mellow

the round ones? theyre about the same height as the newer squared one, they have like an inch or 2 of vert at the bottom then the rest is just a semi circle

[WashingtonNECKTIE]

Related/not related

There's a curb at the local that is the worst curb I've ever skated. It's on the edge of a rock gap, and there's a manny pad in the middle of the length of the curb - so there's basically one "useable" section, and the other half is between a ledge and a QP. Plus the edge is square but rounded off, so locking in is a bit of a gamble of trying not to slip into the rocks.

The curbs in the parking lot are 100x better and have a better grind anyway.

Both curbs are between 75-85 degrees, if I had to guess from memory.

[Gab]

Angle doesn’t matter as much to me as height. For shorter curbs I feel more limited, I see people crook on like 3” curbs and I don’t get it.

So short, 90 is fine, good for 5050s, 5-0s, nosegrinds.

Taller or standard, a little angle feels good, like 80-85 probably. But also 90 works too, all about technique. Taller or standard is better for crooks and feebles imo.

I wax a good amount, but it also gets hot as balls here and shit just dries up.

Some of my favorite local curbs of varying heights and angles

[Plan9Customs]

Back in my day, wax didn’t even exist. If you wanted to slide faster, you had to go harpoon a whale and hand-wring its oils out over the curb, uphill, five miles in a hailstorm. And that’s only if you were too big of a baby to learn to slappy properly.

So copers and rails then?