Slappy help line

[Orangepulp1000]

Making a thread for any and all slappy trick tips,  Forgive me if there’s already one…

Can anyone have a look at this vid (old one but still valid)
and tell me on what I need to work on? I’ve been working on slappy fs crooks for basically a yr now and can’t hold them any longer than what’s in the clip. I know I need to put my body over it more but just can’t figure it out.

http://www.instagram.com/reel/CkVazxEDFUY/?igshid=NzZhOTFlYzFmZQ==

[Sloppy Krooks]

I am absolutely shit at fs crooks, I’m still learning the pinch.

But if it’s anything like bs, you gotta let your body weight roll on top of the curb, behind the grind.

As long as your body weight stays off the curb and over the road, I don’t think you’ll be able to hold it.

Nice pinch tho!

[SatanicPanic]

I have the same problem. Only thing that’s worked so far is going faster and getting my body over the curb. I try to warm up with a bunch of front noses in order to get used to the feeling

[LebowskisRug]

Reg FS crooks are so much harder than switch honestly. I'm not amazing at either, but switch feels more natural to get into and holds. I can FS crook a ledge and finding ollie'ing into it way easier to align my bodyweight and pinch. Regular slappy crooks are by far my easiest slappy.

Speaking of easy slappies, I cannot get backside feebs for the life of me. I always just get into a boardslide with my weight way too far back. Help me folks!

[j....soy.....]

I think Bianca’s got it right…..

[SatanicPanic]

Reg FS crooks are so much harder than switch honestly. I'm not amazing at either, but switch feels more natural to get into and holds. I can FS crook a ledge and finding ollie'ing into it way easier to align my bodyweight and pinch. Regular slappy crooks are by far my easiest slappy.

Speaking of easy slappies, I cannot get backside feebs for the life of me. I always just get into a boardslide with my weight way too far back. Help me folks!

It might be your carve into it. I find that when I’m having trouble getting my wheel up over the curb it helps to roll up to it like you’re going for a back 50. Do an s turn going into it and really weight your back toe. That works for me, usually. Trick is sometimes tougher than advertised.

[LebowskisRug]

Damn, I can barely back 50-50 slappy i always end up in a fucked up back nosegrind, which looks cool but feels scary

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Damn, I can barely back 50-50 slappy i always end up in a fucked up back nosegrind, which looks cool but feels scary

I like slappy willys. It always happens when you're ramping up the speed after a few drinks sometimes too.

It sounds so sick when it happens and it's exciting as you zing across the curb all surprised and shit.

[SatanicPanic]

That might be the angle you’re approaching at? This happens to me if I get cocky and approach too parallel.

Willy grinds are so fun, I’ve been doing those a lot lately

[And_so_it_goes22]

I’m a bit embarrassed to even ask for help on this one because I keep reading everyone say it’s the easiest slappy. But I could use some help on crooks. Just a normal, backside slappy crook.

I can get into the stall on a dry curb 10 times out of 10. And when I do a stall on a dry curb, my weight is on my heel not on my toes. But when I try it at speed I tend to stick. And when that happens, my weight and head are in front of my front foot and I know that can’t be right. 

I think my issue is in going from toe to heel getting into it, or maybe my weight isn’t correct between my front and back foot.  Or maybe none of that is right and my techniques are all wrong because I’m trying to learn from YouTube vloggers.  But I’m struggling to get there. 

I’m also wondering if maybe my primary curb spot isn’t right. It’s got a pretty decent angle to it, I’d say 70% or so. When I stick it sounds like my truck is sticking. But this curb is glassy. Also, my front toe side wheel is getting chewed the fuck up on the outside edges. Maybe I need a more vertical curb, and the wheel is sticking?

This is really frustrating for me. And as I said, a bit embarrassing. I can do front and back 5050s very consistently. But this one makes me wanna throw my board through a fucking wall.

I’m kind of old compared to most of the people on here, and I pretty much only skate solo. So I’ve been trying to learn this through videos. I don’t have any friends that can do them that I can ask.  I’m not gonna even say how many months I’ve been trying to learn this, but out of hundreds of attempts I’ve landed three. 

[GS77]

Backside slappy k grinds are an extension of bs 50/50 grinds. Try this:

Approach the curb just like bs 50/50. Hit the curb with your front truck. Now, instead of pushing your back foot on the curb just allow your back foot to dangle with your weight in front of the curb. You should go right into a bs nose grind. Once you feel that slight nose gring swing your back foot slightly away from the curve. You will either go into a Willy grind or a k grind. You will be surprised how easy you go into position with just a slight weight shift forward and away from the top of the curb.

BTW—I have been skating for over 30 years and more than half by myself.

[Sloppy Krooks]

I’m 47, and never did a crook in my life before March this year. Now I have bs pretty good, and finally some ‘cool guy’ marks on my trucks

So if you just stall a k, you tend to hit the curb at 90 and just twist the board a bit. Your weight gets thrown right over the truck.

To lock in and grind them, have your foot about 45 degrees. When you get on (hitting the curb somewhere between 45-60 degrees) your foot will then be roughly in line with the curb.

You don’t have to carve in at all, just head straight in,  and push that front foot slightly forward as you lighten it. Let it ride up onto the curb and then once on brace your foot a bit in front of you. If it’s right under you you’ll stick, too far forward and you slip out.

I tend to have my foot pushed out a half board length (or a bit less) forward from my nuts (ie under your center of mass)

[And_so_it_goes22]

Thanks guys, really appreciate it.   I’m gonna hit both of my curb spots tomorrow night and try your approach(es).

I turned 50 over the summer, so it’s been 38 years for me. And almost from the beginning I’ve always loved skating solo. 

Edit / update:  these just suddenly clicked for me last night. I went from being lucky to make one or two per session to landing them almost every time. Weird. Skateboarding is a humbling motherfucker. Thanks for your helpful posts. And extra special thanks to Cucktard, who’s Slappy 50/50 explanation is the best I’ve ever seen. 

[Pastasash]

Hey pals, reviving this one since I need help figuring out slappy crooks.

I can slappy 50-50, slappy nose slide, and can do back crooks on ledges. But for some reason when I try to get into a crook slappy i can’t figure out how i lift my back truck up, I just get stuck into a flaccid ass willie slappy

I heard it’s easy to get into with the toes down into the pocket and then lean into your heel for the crook position but i cant get my brain to get back truck up get too caught up on front foot focus.

[The Huffer]

You might be overthinking it. Do the little S shaped carve on the way toward the curb (this sets your weight distribution up right) and then exaggerate the Krooks position as soon as your front truck makes contact. Pretend you're 90s Koston. Don't put too much weight on your toes or you won't go anywhere. In fact you probably want more weight on the heel once you are locked in. But most of your weight should be hovering over your bent, sucked up back leg (get toey on the back foot). Really poke the front foot down and away from you.

Ultimately it's a pose trick. Think of your favorite crook photo and pose it as you smash into that curb.

[Pastasash]

You might be overthinking it. Do the little S shaped carve on the way toward the curb (this sets your weight distribution up right) and then exaggerate the Krooks position as soon as your front truck makes contact. Pretend you're 90s Koston. Don't put too much weight on your toes or you won't go anywhere. In fact you probably want more weight on the heel once you are locked in. But most of your weight should be hovering over your bent, sucked up back leg (get toey on the back foot). Really poke the front foot down and away from you.

Ultimately it's a pose trick. Think of your favorite crook photo and pose it as you smash into that curb.

super appreciate the tips! gonna try this out later this week and hopefully report back with a new clip

[Bupstop]

Maybe try experimenting on where you place your front foot before you get into the crook. I know I put my front foot more on the tip of the nose and at an angle when I back crook and totally in the pocket when I front crook. You could also just try to lock into them straight on and when you get that down adjust the angle and add more speed. That worked for me when I was learning them. Hope that helps!

[rawbertson.]

once you get good at it you kinda just huck your wheel into it and you know how it will respond when it makes contact, and then that is your chance to manipulate it into the grind you want.
i like having lots of wax on the noseslide part especially for this trick otherwise it feels shitty.

[Pastasash]

Thanks again yall for the suggestions, know im prob one slight adjustment away from it clicking. This week fosho

[SwitchBenihana]

Robbie Rodriguez/East Coast Curb Killer has a good tutorial. My main pieces of advice are to put your foot further toward the pocket than you think, aim at a 45 degree angle, and at the last second do a toe side carve. You'll climb right up and the further back foot position makes it impossible to climb both wheels up and go right over.

Once on the curb try to center your weight slightly toward the front foot and keep your rear shoulder closed. For me back foot on the bolts is perfect and to come out just unweight the front and nudge your back foot back a bit like a baby Nollie.

Sounds like a ton of steps but once you get the motion it's really easy.