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My current daily morning stack is as follows;
Tongkat Ali and Feungreek for testosterone production (this shit works!!!)
L-Tyrosine - precursor to dopamine
5-HTP - precursor to serotonin
Fish Oil
Vitamin D3
For anyone in their early to mid 30s who has felt a dip in energy levels, drive, or motivation, do your research on tongkat ali. I have tried several different types of testosterone supplements that contain a multitude of different ingredients (Neugenix Total T, etc.,) and they have never worked, or at least not the way just tongkat ali has. I feel like I'm in my mid 20s again as far as energy and mindset goes.
I'm back in the gym after a few months off, but I was also taking tongkat ali during that break. About 8 weeks in is when I got back in the gym and I'm working out harder than I ever have and going longer than I ever have.
I will say though, I do feel like I'm getting a little more agitated at things that would not normally bother me (like how someone is treating me or interacting with me) or a little more aggressive easier. Its not necessarily a bad thing because I've realized it and can be aware of it, but I will take a little agitation
that I have to be cognizant of for the trade off of how amazing I feel physically and mentally.
What specific products have you been using that have tongkat ali? Did you have baseline measurements taken so you can document what objective changes occurred?
I am not second guessing you, I am just curious.
@pugmaster - I do not have any concrete evidence that like bloodwork or actual test levels, so all of my experience is strictly anecdotal. I will say though (and not to sound lame) but I have been physically active my whole life and am in tune with my body and how well it performs in certain aspects, so I am confident in saying that my experience is not due to placebo.
I am taking 500 MG of just tongkat ali (it is not a part of any sort of any multivitamin style test booster,) and 620mg of Fenugreek in the morning, most the time on an empty stomach. I got both of them at Walmart and I was surprised to see that they sell tongkat in the first place. I started incorporating the fenugreek about 4 weeks into taking the tongkat and I can't say that I've noticed an additional boost in drive or performance, but I do feel pretty amazing and balanced at a high level when it comes to my mindset, drive, strength, energy levels, and my overall desire to get out there and get after it. It has also increased my libido greatly.
I really knew something was legitimately happening when I started to become a little quick to snap at certain things. I would not outwardly mean or disrespectful to anyone, and I wouldn't compare it to something like, "roid rage," but that is not a part of my personality. I would become very intense very quickly. That's actually the perfect way to describe it.
The biggest area of beneficial change that I have noticed, and the change that I was really hoping for, is how much stronger I feel and how much more endurance I have while being in the gym. This is also me coming off a multiple months long break from any sort of real exercise regiment or weight lifting of any kind. I got back in the gym and fully hit the ground running, and was actually progressing pretty much right away.
The tongkat has been coupled with a lot of really positive and healthy lifestyle changes over the past two months. While I do not think it is the sole reason as to why I feel so good, I do think it is definitely helping.