Corny shit your shop sells to keep the lights on

[H8R]

but kites are fun!  you can attach razorblades to the tails and battle it out with other kiters?  i guess thats what you call people who fly kites?   

[sfa]

but kites are fun!  you can attach razorblades to the tails and battle it out with other kiters?  i guess thats what you call people who fly kites?   

kiters is my new favorite word.

[Row From The Rocks]

Here's the deal, we love to be elitist when it comes to skateboarding, and we want kids to buy the "right" stuff. Problem is, Zumiez is coming and if core skateshops are going to survive they have to change with their customer base. I live on the East Coast and the shop I ride for just opened up a third location in the mall. I cringed, but the truth is that when Zumiez opens it's 300 stores in the NorthEast this year we'll still be around. We get the mall money, and it goes to keep our indoor park (JunctionSkate.com) open. The shop has the worst shit ever - including the Rob & Big boards that started this thread - but we're also a heavy supporter of local and core brands. Sometimes I think the shops that are closeminded about their product lines are just as bad as the mall stores. What's up with local brands? If small, skater owned shops are the backbone of skating, can't the same be said about small, skater owned brands? You skate-snobs should check yourselves. Gino is the man for sure, but how many Girl flow guys live on the east coast? I'm not hating, I'm just asking who supports your scene, and do you support them? Truth?

[munkywrench]

silver trucks

[H8R]

Here's the deal, we love to be elitist when it comes to skateboarding, and we want kids to buy the "right" stuff. Problem is, Zumiez is coming and if core skateshops are going to survive they have to change with their customer base. I live on the East Coast and the shop I ride for just opened up a third location in the mall. I cringed, but the truth is that when Zumiez opens it's 300 stores in the NorthEast this year we'll still be around. We get the mall money, and it goes to keep our indoor park (JunctionSkate.com) open. The shop has the worst shit ever - including the Rob & Big boards that started this thread - but we're also a heavy supporter of local and core brands. Sometimes I think the shops that are closeminded about their product lines are just as bad as the mall stores. What's up with local brands? If small, skater owned shops are the backbone of skating, can't the same be said about small, skater owned brands? You skate-snobs should check yourselves. Gino is the man for sure, but how many Girl flow guys live on the east coast? I'm not hating, I'm just asking who supports your scene, and do you support them? Truth?

as bad as it sounds, if i were to open a skateshop, i'd probably try to get into a Mall before getting some little place in the cut with little to no foot traffic.  i know that sounds f-ed up but i'm not pouring my blood sweat and tears into some place in the middle of nowhere hoping that skaters help keep my shit open.  skaters are cheap SOBs by nature and i don't see them paying more for a certain item just to keep it real.  skating is expensive to begin with and a lot of people have the mentality that cheaper is better.  why buy a pair of shoes from a core store for $50 if you can get them at zumiez for $20?  its f-ed up but its the truth.     
 

[ECG]

Our local shop which is in the same area (Lair, Enfield Ct, right above Hartford) don't sell any bullshit and would never be in a mall.

Do whatever you like. But my support goes to the true shops. The ones that are not in malls.

My other favorite shop KCDC in Williamsburb Brooklyn also has a killer scene and shop. None of which you would find dead in a strip mall.

And you can't say it doesn't work cuz boith them shops sell shit tons.

Fuck Zumiez, Pac Sun and all that mall shit.

[heckler]

Ruin doesn't sell anything corny or stupid.

[H8R]

Our local shop which is in the same area (Lair, Enfield Ct, right above Hartford) don't sell any bullshit and would never be in a mall.
Do whatever you like. But my support goes to the true shops. The ones that are not in malls.

My other favorite shop KCDC in Williamsburb Brooklyn also has a killer scene and shop. None of which you would find dead in a strip mall.
And you can't say it doesn't work cuz boith them shops sell shit tons.
Fuck Zumiez, Pac Sun and all that mall shit.

the difference is your age, how old are you?  i assume you're atleast in your 20's?   which means you have some soul and you'll back your shop.  little kids aren't like that, they have no sense of loyality whatsoever.  all they know is they want this or that, they want it now, and they want it as cheap as possible. 
also, if their mom takes them to the mall for whatever reason and mom says "hey billy, go pick out a board", he damn sure ain't going to say, "nah mom, i want to go to Lair to pick up my board", thats just how kids are.     

and KCDC is more than just your typical skateshop, they're more like a bountique "skart shop".  they always have money coming in from other outlets cause they know they can't stay afloat by selling just skateboards.  i'm not sure what the rent is but could you imagine how many boards they'd have to sell in a month just to make the rent?   

     

[sfa]

ok, kiters is out, and skart shop is in as my new favorite word.

[NITSUJ]

nike sb

top buyers: people who dont skate

[chopper]

Corny Shit and no-one's mentioned these bad boys yet?
<img src="http://osiris.bleublog.ch/files/images/2006/4/480/mob11_1145476742.jpg">
I'm sure these sorted some pensions out!

[Penis_Monster]

shop bearings
copies of the Ice Cream video
incense
trucker hats
those hats with built-in cupholders on the sides.
Shuvit decks

[bumptobar]

Nike sb is probably the worst thing sold at my local shop.

[Row From The Rocks]

Our local shop which is in the same area (Lair, Enfield Ct, right above Hartford) don't sell any bullshit and would never be in a mall.

Do whatever you like. But my support goes to the true shops. The ones that are not in malls.

My other favorite shop KCDC in Williamsburb Brooklyn also has a killer scene and shop. None of which you would find dead in a strip mall.

And you can't say it doesn't work cuz boith them shops sell shit tons.

Fuck Zumiez, Pac Sun and all that mall shit.

I'll agree with one thing - Fuck Zumiez and Pac Sun. Here's the thing. Zumiez is opening up 300 stores in the northeast this year. Theory made a preemptive strike by getting in the mall, but here's the thing - a core shop can exist in the mall. What makes core? Skater owned? Done. Supports a team? Done. Helps out the scene by hosting demos and constest, building parks and putting out videos? Done. "True" shops aren't necessarily the ones that yell it loudest, they're the ones that put their money where their mouth is. Let's face it, you're not going to go skate Zumiez Skatepark - because skateparks don't make money. Like I said, you've gotta support the people who support you. The "mall" hate only works when applied to horrible chain stores. Theory has been in business for 9 years and has done a lot for the scene - that's what makes a "True" skateshop.

Things might be working now (of course KCDC isn't entirely funded by skateboarding) but what about when there's 300 more competitors? The Zumiez in the Waterford Mall has already open and don't think West Farms isn't on the list. If we want skateboarding in the right peoples hands we can't hide behind some weird view about location. The mall sucks. I don't go there either, but kids do - and their parents spend money there regardless. Those of us who know might have loyalty, but some forty something Mom could give a shit - and that's who's paying the rent.

[mikefork]

Ruin doesn't sell anything corny or stupid.

i met the owner ian(?) a few years back and he seemd like he was 100% down for skateboarding and keeping things legit

if there are 300 new expected zumiez i might have to get out my throwing bricks and put my game face on

[j....soy.....]

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red dragon apparel

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Good one... But Red Dragon actually sells enough to make ends? Man, where's your shop located?

[close]

north van

ha....isn't the only shop in nv that sells red dragon rds? 

it's funny how everyone hates longboards but loves zip zingers.....

[WILL]

dekline shoes. grosss

[j....soy.....]

those keep the lights on?

[Zurg]

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red dragon apparel

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Good one... But Red Dragon actually sells enough to make ends? Man, where's your shop located?

[close]

north van

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ha....isn't the only shop in nv that sells red dragon rds? 

it's funny how everyone hates longboards but loves zip zingers.....

you can ollie on a zip zinger

[Alexactly]

It should be every skaters duty to spill the largest soda they can on as much Zumiez/pac sun/tilly's merchandise as possible.

[TROPICS]

conversely, when the Anti-Hero 'Tidy Up' series came out, the neo-con finks over at Active stocked every model instore, except Julien's: 'Keep Iraq Beautiful'

[rocklobster]

roler blades, really old skateboarding gear like new deal, 10 year old AWS and emerica hoodies, angel boy decks, termite decks....

[metsuri]

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But keeping it real I don't understand the moral stance against Blackbox. Don't care for the image but morally how is it different than a distro like Girl? The Girl branding/riders appeal more to me but they press their wood in China and market to Zumies but no one seems to care. Their riders are solid but it comes off as a frat at times.

[close]

Damn. You called it like it is. My thoughts exactly. No one could even respond.

[Prison Wallet]

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But keeping it real I don't understand the moral stance against Blackbox. Don't care for the image but morally how is it different than a distro like Girl? The Girl branding/riders appeal more to me but they press their wood in China and market to Zumies but no one seems to care. Their riders are solid but it comes off as a frat at times.

[close]

Damn. You called it like it is. My thoughts exactly. No one could even respond.

[close]

Come on, all you guys swinging from the nuts of Girl but busting Jaimie's balls respond...

And all sales reps suck but the Girl sales rep I dealt with was the worst... "You guys still stocked up on Yeah Right decks? That shit's hot," like two years after the vid dropped. "That's it?" "Come on, let me throw some of those Bee Bull decks in there." And I've mentioned it before, but they shipped their production overseas which obviously ups their proffit margin, yet their wholesale prices have stayed the same or gone up. Even with how shitty Dwindle Distro is, at least they pass the savings on to shops which helps them make ends.

To me the fact that you guys lambast Jamie for the SAME shit other companies do makes me think it's more about image and branding... Blackbox appeals to little kids and you're not down with the corny hesh image so Jaimie's an easy target. Girl has rad art direction and puts out solid vids so you look the other way... Hypocracy.

Oh, and back to the thread--incense takes the cake for me. Nice one. Anyone ever sell patuli oil?   

[alongway]

crooks n' castles, ten deep, lrg. kinda corny but the kids love it.

and i feel like there making better stuff than a lot of skate brands. in fact the skate brands have been biting the streetwear stuff for a while now.

streetwear is gay.

[blank.]

wasnt there a new shop someone made a topic about and all there shit was streetwear?

[alongway]

wasnt there a new shop someone made a topic about and all there shit was streetwear?

thats about every god damn new skate shop there is.

[j....soy.....]

pro model skateboards....

[H8R]

I'll agree with one thing - Fuck Zumiez and Pac Sun. Here's the thing. Zumiez is opening up 300 stores in the northeast this year. Theory made a preemptive strike by getting in the mall, but here's the thing - a core shop can exist in the mall. What makes core? Skater owned? Done. Supports a team? Done. Helps out the scene by hosting demos and constest, building parks and putting out videos? Done. "True" shops aren't necessarily the ones that yell it loudest, they're the ones that put their money where their mouth is. Let's face it, you're not going to go skate Zumiez Skatepark - because skateparks don't make money. Like I said, you've gotta support the people who support you. The "mall" hate only works when applied to horrible chain stores. Theory has been in business for 9 years and has done a lot for the scene - that's what makes a "True" skateshop.

Things might be working now (of course KCDC isn't entirely funded by skateboarding) but what about when there's 300 more competitors? The Zumiez in the Waterford Mall has already open and don't think West Farms isn't on the list. If we want skateboarding in the right peoples hands we can't hide behind some weird view about location. The mall sucks. I don't go there either, but kids do - and their parents spend money there regardless. Those of us who know might have loyalty, but some forty something Mom could give a shit - and that's who's paying the rent.

good post.   

[sfa]

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crooks n' castles, ten deep, lrg. kinda corny but the kids love it.

and i feel like there making better stuff than a lot of skate brands. in fact the skate brands have been biting the streetwear stuff for a while now.

[close]

streetwear is gay.

yeah, but its all the kids buy. so kids are gay.

ive got all these sick t's from thrasher, lowcard, spitfire, anithero, krooked, ect. and no one buys them.