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Should soletech die

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Re: Poll: should we let soletech die
« Reply #150 on: March 04, 2024, 03:42:29 AM »
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Selling direct to consumer the way they do undoes any credibility Soletech has as a “core” company. 


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Re: Poll: should we let soletech die
« Reply #151 on: March 04, 2024, 04:36:18 AM »
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Any political discussion usually ends up like this too, especially any time someone spitting knowledge shows up and pisses off the resident ogres
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cry ab it

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Re: Poll: should we let soletech die
« Reply #152 on: March 04, 2024, 08:02:19 AM »
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cry ab it
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Re: Poll: should we let soletech die
« Reply #153 on: March 04, 2024, 08:21:55 AM »
Dakota came out with a part that is in my top three of the year




Releases a shoe that makes me think maybe I should try some FP's
I really liked dakotas part. And i met him once and he gave me some good tips on getting more height from my kickflips. So i was rooting for him when his shoe was announced. But then i saw the shoe and though oh no, a tragic.

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Re: Poll: should we let soletech die
« Reply #154 on: March 04, 2024, 08:31:01 AM »
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Dakota came out with a part that is in my top three of the year




Releases a shoe that makes me think maybe I should try some FP's
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But then i saw the shoe and though oh no, a tragic.

If they’re really trying to save their dying brand and they toiled up to produce 10,000 Dakotas…

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Re: Poll: should we let soletech die
« Reply #155 on: March 04, 2024, 08:32:37 AM »
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Dakota came out with a part that is in my top three of the year




Releases a shoe that makes me think maybe I should try some FP's
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But then i saw the shoe and though oh no, a tragic.
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If they’re really trying to save their dying brand and they toiled up to produce 10,000 Dakotas…

If Dakota is your company’s Obi Wan it’s safe to say your company is fucked.

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Re: Poll: should we let soletech die
« Reply #156 on: March 04, 2024, 08:22:37 PM »
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Dakota came out with a part that is in my top three of the year




Releases a shoe that makes me think maybe I should try some FP's
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But then i saw the shoe and though oh no, a tragic.
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If they’re really trying to save their dying brand and they toiled up to produce 10,000 Dakotas…
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If Dakota is your company’s Obi Wan it’s safe to say your company is fucked.

It's funny that you said that

Because this




looks like this to me


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Re: Poll: should we let soletech die
« Reply #157 on: March 04, 2024, 08:26:58 PM »
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Dakota came out with a part that is in my top three of the year




Releases a shoe that makes me think maybe I should try some FP's
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But then i saw the shoe and though oh no, a tragic.
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If they’re really trying to save their dying brand and they toiled up to produce 10,000 Dakotas…
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If Dakota is your company’s Obi Wan it’s safe to say your company is fucked.
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It's funny that you said that

Because this




looks like this to me



Maybe it’s just because it’s next to jar jar, or maybe it’s because I haven’t looked at it up close like this but goddamn that is one ugly shoe. Who gave that the green light? This is self sabotage as far as I’m concerned

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Re: Poll: should we let soletech die
« Reply #158 on: March 04, 2024, 10:42:13 PM »
too many people here forget how old they are

if you're a high school or college aged skateboarder what has soletech done in that decade or less time span you've been skating that makes you feel like their shoes are cool? and the answer to that is "absolutely nothing"
 emerica and etnies have "good teams" but they don't have anybody on those teams who are the equivalent of what marc johnson, heath kirchart, sal barbier, andrew reynolds, es templeton, mike vallely, etc were to us. skateboarding is in a completely different place than it was 25-20, even 15-10 years ago and honestly the idea that things even have to be "core" is a completely archaic ideology within skateboarding now. kids now literally grew up with nike/cons, adidas and new balance being not only a part of skateboarding but they grew up with skateboarding being "part of society" and they buy shit off the internet so they don't need core shops, they watch video clips on instagram, so they don't need to hear about what's happening in magazines and at shops and skateparks so there's way less of a sense of "community" in skateboarding today and the way we had things is never coming back because consumerism even niche consumerism runs through the internet now.

so "we" don't have to "let soletech" live or die that's not how free markets works

if you're old enough to be nostalgic for how things used to be this will come off depressing but "our time" is over as far as dictating the market goes and as more of us continually age out and stop spending money within this sector brands like etnies, es, emerica, and lakai struggle more and more to sustain


the only thing that can save any of these companies is their ability to start attracting marketable talent like they used to but with dwindling budgets to do that with we know that's never going to happen because nike adidas and new balance can pay the "cool kids" way better than soletech or lakai can

just enjoy what little time these companies have left and enjoy the fleeting time we even have left  physically to even skate at a high enough level to still feel compelled enough to immerse yourself in skateboarding because we're all 30+ (on the young side) if we're even engaging this type of topic because again nobody under that age even understands why it should matter if soletech exists or not because to them soletech just chooses not to put together a trendy team where as the sport brands do

nostalgia is powerful and i wouldn't be at all surprised if nike adidas or even nb ended up buying the soletech trademarks eventually just to make them cool again later by doing what soletech can't afford to do and that's pay a group of trendy skaters to do that

and before anybody bitches that nike came in with a bunch of money and crippled the smaller brands from being able to complete just remember that guys don't go pro at skateboarding not to make money and none of them gave a shit about skateboarding remaining skater owned because because those pros all understood that in order for nike to even want back in skateboarding that skateboarding itself was already changing and becoming more marketable so this whole thing was literally just an ordinary growth process and there's no victim's because it was just evolution and that meant shit was bound to die off as things changed
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Re: Poll: should we let soletech die
« Reply #159 on: March 05, 2024, 08:42:06 AM »
too many people here forget how old they are

if you're a high school or college aged skateboarder what has soletech done in that decade or less time span you've been skating that makes you feel like their shoes are cool? and the answer to that is "absolutely nothing"
 emerica and etnies have "good teams" but they don't have anybody on those teams who are the equivalent of what marc johnson, heath kirchart, sal barbier, andrew reynolds, es templeton, mike vallely, etc were to us. skateboarding is in a completely different place than it was 25-20, even 15-10 years ago and honestly the idea that things even have to be "core" is a completely archaic ideology within skateboarding now. kids now literally grew up with nike/cons, adidas and new balance being not only a part of skateboarding but they grew up with skateboarding being "part of society" and they buy shit off the internet so they don't need core shops, they watch video clips on instagram, so they don't need to hear about what's happening in magazines and at shops and skateparks so there's way less of a sense of "community" in skateboarding today and the way we had things is never company back because consumerism even niche consumerism runs through the internet now.

so "we" don't have to "let soletech" live or die that's not how free markets works

if you're old enough to be nostalgic for how things used to be this will come off depressing but "our time" is over as far as dictating the market goes and as more of us continually age out and stop spending money within this sector brands like etnies, es, emerica, and lakai struggle more and more to sustain


the only thing that can save any of these companies is their ability to start attracting marketable talent like they used to but with dwindling budgets to do that with we know that's never going to happen because nike adidas and new balance can pay the "cool kids" way better than soletech or lakai can

just enjoy what little time these companies have left and enjoy the fleeting time we even have left  physically to even skate at a high enough level to still feel compelled enough to immerse yourself in skateboarding because we're all 30+ (on the young side) if we're even engaging this type of topic because again nobody under that age even understands why it should matter if soletech exists or not because to them soletech just chooses not to put together a trendy team where as the sport brands do

nostalgia is powerful and i wouldn't be at all surprised if nike adidas or even nb ended up buying the soletech trademarks eventually just to make them cool again later by doing what soletech can't afford to do and that's pay a group of trendy skaters to do that

and before anybody bitches that nike came in with a bunch of money and crippled the smaller brands from being able to complete just remember that guys don't go pro at skateboarding not to make money and none of them gave a shit about skateboarding remaining skater owned because because those pros all understood that in order for nike to even want back in skateboarding that skateboarding itself was already changing and becoming more marketable so this whole thing was literally just an ordinary growth process and there's no victim's because it was just evolution and that meant shit was bound to die off as things changed

A whole bunch of facts in this

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Re: Poll: should we let soletech die
« Reply #160 on: March 05, 2024, 09:42:31 AM »
“Sole technologies. Owned by Nike.

Watch out for me.”

Nike and Soletech should have listened to that kid in The Reason.
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Re: Poll: should we let soletech die
« Reply #161 on: March 05, 2024, 11:26:14 AM »
“Sole technologies. Owned by Nike.

Watch out for me.”

Nike and Soletech should have listened to that kid in The Reason.

it might seem weird now but there's equity in the logos and histories of those brands


that's why nike bought bauer (hockey equipment) and that they owned umbro at one point for soccer etc

it's always been profitable for larger brands to buy out smaller brands and run them internally at minimal cost
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Re: Poll: should we let soletech die
« Reply #162 on: March 05, 2024, 11:48:55 AM »
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“Sole technologies. Owned by Nike.

Watch out for me.”

Nike and Soletech should have listened to that kid in The Reason.
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it might seem weird now but there's equity in the logos and histories of those brands


that's why nike bought bauer (hockey equipment) and that they owned umbro at one point for soccer etc

it's always been profitable for larger brands to buy out smaller brands and run them internally at minimal cost
Not weird at all. Can you imagine the Sole Tech brands with Nike money and marketing behind them?

Can you imagine a Dunk with G6 foam??
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Re: Poll: should we let soletech die
« Reply #163 on: March 05, 2024, 12:30:00 PM »
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“Sole technologies. Owned by Nike.

Watch out for me.”

Nike and Soletech should have listened to that kid in The Reason.
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it might seem weird now but there's equity in the logos and histories of those brands


that's why nike bought bauer (hockey equipment) and that they owned umbro at one point for soccer etc

it's always been profitable for larger brands to buy out smaller brands and run them internally at minimal cost
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Not weird at all. Can you imagine the Sole Tech brands with Nike money and marketing behind them?

Can you imagine a Dunk with G6 foam??

almost anything with g6 foam is gonna be gold

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Re: Poll: should we let soletech die
« Reply #164 on: March 05, 2024, 12:36:30 PM »
6 pages of text walls for a simple yes or no question.

Sole Tech isn't cool anymore, and not in the popular crowd for good reason. What it is.

Damn I left my bubbler at my parents house

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Re: Poll: should we let soletech die
« Reply #165 on: March 05, 2024, 03:22:26 PM »
nike kids HATE that people still like emerica. its so funny

Can he read

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Re: Poll: should we let soletech die
« Reply #166 on: March 05, 2024, 04:01:34 PM »
nike kids HATE that people still like emerica. its so funny

I don’t think anyone gives a shit, m8

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Re: Poll: should we let soletech die
« Reply #167 on: March 05, 2024, 04:11:19 PM »
nike kids HATE that people still like emerica. its so funny
yeah i can tell you were laughing really hard when you typed this

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Re: Poll: should we let soletech die
« Reply #168 on: March 06, 2024, 10:35:36 AM »
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Selling direct to consumer the way they do undoes any credibility Soletech has as a “core” company. 


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20% off your first order too
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Hours is yours, Last Resort AB, Lakai all sell direct also thou.

In another thread someone posted a pie chart of what shoes are on shop walls. if the chart is to be accurate and true, then  most shops are practically not carrying those "core" shoe brands.

So considering most consumers are ordering online, and shops aren't carrying "core" shoes its kind of an easy answer for what these companies have to do to survive

Lol. Eldee is definitely a human. He’s like a raider on horse back who’s kinda scared to do battle. Somehow he closes his eyes and swings his sword wildly and wakes up in a pile of dead orcs.


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Re: Poll: should we let soletech die
« Reply #169 on: March 06, 2024, 11:43:54 AM »
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“Sole technologies. Owned by Nike.

Watch out for me.”

Nike and Soletech should have listened to that kid in The Reason.
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it might seem weird now but there's equity in the logos and histories of those brands


that's why nike bought bauer (hockey equipment) and that they owned umbro at one point for soccer etc

it's always been profitable for larger brands to buy out smaller brands and run them internally at minimal cost
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Not weird at all. Can you imagine the Sole Tech brands with Nike money and marketing behind them?

Can you imagine a Dunk with G6 foam??
I'm just imagining two pairs of the same Emericas fitting the exact same. QC on all the shoes I've tried to get are real bad...
I wanna crap in a box just to mail it to you so your bitch ass can smell it

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Re: Poll: should we let soletech die
« Reply #170 on: March 06, 2024, 12:11:51 PM »
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Selling direct to consumer the way they do undoes any credibility Soletech has as a “core” company. 


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20% off your first order too
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Hours is yours, Last Resort AB, Lakai all sell direct also thou.
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In another thread someone posted a pie chart of what shoes are on shop walls. if the chart is to be accurate and true, then  most shops are practically not carrying those "core" shoe brands.

So considering most consumers are ordering online, and shops aren't carrying "core" shoes its kind of an easy answer for what these companies have to do to survive

Slam City Skates in London don't carry Lakai, Es or Etines. Told me it's not worth putting them on display instead of the usual Nike, Adidas, New Balance, Vans. Last time i was in there they had one pair of Emerica and a couple of Last Resort.

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« Reply #171 on: March 06, 2024, 12:30:27 PM »
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nike kids HATE that people still like emerica. its so funny
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yeah i can tell you were laughing really hard when you typed this

Didnt laugh at all but it got you rev'd up enough.

How are those new Ishods to skate in?

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« Reply #172 on: March 06, 2024, 12:58:44 PM »
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nike kids HATE that people still like emerica. its so funny
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yeah i can tell you were laughing really hard when you typed this
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Didnt laugh at all but it got you rev'd up enough.

How are those new abominable dakota servolds that were almost cancelled because not enough shops pre booked them to skate in?

i certainly laughed

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« Reply #173 on: March 06, 2024, 01:00:57 PM »
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nike kids HATE that people still like emerica. its so funny
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yeah i can tell you were laughing really hard when you typed this
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Didnt laugh at all but it got you rev'd up enough.

How are those new abominable dakota servolds that were almost cancelled because not enough shops pre booked them to skate in?
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i certainly laughed

those things are heinous for sure.

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Re: Poll: should we let soletech die
« Reply #174 on: March 06, 2024, 01:09:41 PM »
again why would we kill off sole tech before like... FP or fallen first? Or Cariuma i just never get why everyone is so anti sole tech compared to other things first. I could care less rally about it all. again its just the topic.

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Re: Poll: should we let soletech die
« Reply #175 on: March 06, 2024, 01:23:39 PM »
again why would we kill off sole tech before like... FP or fallen first? Or Cariuma i just never get why everyone is so anti sole tech compared to other things first. I could care less rally about it all. again its just the topic.
FP was dead from the start
Fallen isn't really Fallen right now
Cariuma is gonna be seen a lot less now that the Berrics are on hiatus or whatever

Sole Tech brands just aren't what the kids are asking for, and the proof is in that pie chart in another thread. Shops aren't going to carry what isn't in demand.



Damn I left my bubbler at my parents house

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Re: Poll: should we let soletech die
« Reply #176 on: March 06, 2024, 01:47:40 PM »
Next month on SLAP

"Should we keep soletech alive?"

and then everyone copies and pastes their comments from this thread
Wow sorry, didn't realise I was dealing with a sick cunt here

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« Reply #177 on: March 06, 2024, 01:53:32 PM »
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again why would we kill off sole tech before like... FP or fallen first? Or Cariuma i just never get why everyone is so anti sole tech compared to other things first. I could care less rally about it all. again its just the topic.
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FP was dead from the start
Fallen isn't really Fallen right now
Cariuma is gonna be seen a lot less now that the Berrics are on hiatus or whatever

Sole Tech brands just aren't what the kids are asking for, and the proof is in that pie chart in another thread. Shops aren't going to carry what isn't in demand.

This all makes sense of course. It doesnt matter to me whatever anyone likes and i do get that shops need to carry nike and NB and vans way heavier due to demand. And im fully aware that sole tech is not nearly as powerful as it was in the late 90s/00 but if we are just gonna burn brands to the ground, they just arent first on my list. Or second. Out of the remaining "core" shoe brands left, Soletech would be part of the last groups id want to see leave. So i just dont know why people are trying extra hard to dislike it but theres been no mention of the other brands like Fallen or Cariuma in this.

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Re: Poll: should we let soletech die
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Re: Poll: should we let soletech die
« Reply #179 on: March 06, 2024, 02:23:22 PM »
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Selling direct to consumer the way they do undoes any credibility Soletech has as a “core” company. 


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20% off your first order too
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Hours is yours, Last Resort AB, Lakai all sell direct also thou.
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In another thread someone posted a pie chart of what shoes are on shop walls. if the chart is to be accurate and true, then  most shops are practically not carrying those "core" shoe brands.

So considering most consumers are ordering online, and shops aren't carrying "core" shoes its kind of an easy answer for what these companies have to do to survive
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Slam City Skates in London don't carry Lakai, Es or Etines. Told me it's not worth putting them on display instead of the usual Nike, Adidas, New Balance, Vans. Last time i was in there they had one pair of Emerica and a couple of Last Resort.

exactly, and thats 100% justified. A shop shouldnt carry what isnt gonna sell

but to criticize a company for selling dtc when no one else is offering much of their stuff is wild to me. These brands still have to find some way to support their employees/team

Lol. Eldee is definitely a human. He’s like a raider on horse back who’s kinda scared to do battle. Somehow he closes his eyes and swings his sword wildly and wakes up in a pile of dead orcs.