Changes under Trump 2.0

[AnimalChinaski79]

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Look how happy the little pedophile is with his participation trophy!

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The Nobel needs to officially strip Machado of it. Then immediately give it to Obama.

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Obama won his for real in 2009.


It was a joke that she won the noble prize in the first place. She has supported military coups and openly advocated for the invasion of Venezuela.

Why should Obama get it? He was involved in so many wars and extrajudicial killings!

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Giving to Obama would purely be to annoy Trump.

[TastyBurrito]

Trump is having Pam Bondi and the DOJ launch an investigation into Renee Good’s widow.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna254038

Remember when MAGA cried that Biden was weaponizing the DOJ because Trump was investigated for Tax Fraud? Yea…

[augustmoon]

https://x.com/SenBooker/status/2011795625835114641

So as the calls for ICE to be abolished from the Democratic base..........Democrat lawmakers propose body cameras and better training  (i.e. more funding) for the gestapo?

And people wonder why they keep losing....

They want to lose.  They’re in on it.  This is a class war.  They’re letting it happen because all of this has already been decided; any debate is just theater. 

Those that are useful will be their servant class, those deemed a burden on the state will be deleted.  The 3 major powers are about to carve up the world in a war for resources ahead of climate collapse.  Bookmark it.

[Atiba Applebum]

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IOC issued a warning if Trump keeps doing Trump things, they’ll ban Team USA from the upcoming Winter Olympics.

I personally think they should and it’d be even more hilarious if they banned Team USA in 2028 when we’re supposed to be hosting.

https://www.sportbible.com/other/ioc-olympics-donald-trump-america-175514-20260114

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Corporate dollar will never let that happen.   Worse, I could see tht gaining him support from Americans

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It’s why I want to see it happen. Billionaires in Trump’s pocket are going to get him to knock it off (at least for the duration of the games) because the Olympics are huge revenue buckets from them.

As for supporters, I dunno. Even Hitler and the Nazis knew not to fuck with the games when they hosted in 1936.

And if your predictions are correct and MAGA would support us being banned by IOC in favor of Trump’s ego, we as America, would be beyond saving when it comes to international relationships.

I don’t even think it’s billionaires in his pocket.   Corporations have just spent a lot of money to hype up American athletes and to air and advertise th Olympics based off Americans watching Americans compete.   

I meant more that people would get behind America and as a result Trump if it were to be kicked out of the Olympics.   It’s an exercise in nationalism and people want to support their country and Trump will get that run off

[Plan9Customs]

So we’ve seen that Walz has the national guard on standby as well as law enforcement to get tRumps SA back inline.
Fucking poetic justice.
 I truly hope ICE gets a taste of the violence and murder they’ve been dolling out tenfold.
Will Miller have dump call in the military or will they turn tail?
Place your bets boys!

[TastyBurrito]

So we’ve seen that Walz has the national guard on standby as well as law enforcement to get tRumps SA back inline.
Fucking poetic justice.
 I truly hope ICE gets a taste of the violence and murder they’ve been dolling out tenfold.
Will Miller have dump call in the military or will they turn tail?
Place your bets boys!

100% Trump and Miller will call in US National Guard and use violence on American citizens. Then he will inact Martial Law. He’s already casually stated to the news that he would have no problem and lied by saying that 49% of Presidents have already used it, laying the foundation for his base to (falsely) justify him using it.

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Look how happy the little pedophile is with his participation trophy!

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The Nobel needs to officially strip Machado of it. Then immediately give it to Obama.

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Obama won his for real in 2009.


It was a joke that she won the noble prize in the first place. She has supported military coups and openly advocated for the invasion of Venezuela.

Why should Obama get it? He was involved in so many wars and extrajudicial killings!

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Giving to Obama would purely be to annoy Trump.

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That’s a stupid reason.

There is always way too much focus on Trump. He feeds on attention and terrorizes the globe by making everything about himself! I am so fucking sick of it and I don’t even live in the US.

[TastyBurrito]

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Look how happy the little pedophile is with his participation trophy!

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The Nobel needs to officially strip Machado of it. Then immediately give it to Obama.

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Obama won his for real in 2009.


It was a joke that she won the noble prize in the first place. She has supported military coups and openly advocated for the invasion of Venezuela.

Why should Obama get it? He was involved in so many wars and extrajudicial killings!

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Giving to Obama would purely be to annoy Trump.

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That’s a stupid reason.

There is always way too much focus on Trump. He feeds on attention and terrorizes the globe by making everything about himself! I am so fucking sick of it and I don’t even live in the US.

Let me clarify, that was made in jest. Purely as a joke.

Unlike this: Trump has created a “Board of Peace” that would oversee the Gaza conflict. The kicker, he’s demanding $1 Billion in cash to join. We all know where that money is gonna end up…

[Plan9Customs]

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So we’ve seen that Walz has the national guard on standby as well as law enforcement to get tRumps SA back inline.
Fucking poetic justice.
 I truly hope ICE gets a taste of the violence and murder they’ve been dolling out tenfold.
Will Miller have dump call in the military or will they turn tail?
Place your bets boys!

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100% Trump and Miller will call in US National Guard and use violence on American citizens. Then he will inact Martial Law. He’s already casually stated to the news that he would have no problem and lied by saying that 49% of Presidents have already used it, laying the foundation for his base to (falsely) justify him using it.

I don’t disagree with your assessment but since Walz has called in the National Guard to police ICE as well as state police is Miller going to try and get tRump to federalize them? Will he send active military to try and carry out his will?
I know Miller and the other white nationalist cabinet members have actively been trying to create situations to enforce martial law but so far haven’t had legal reason to do it(although we all know that they’ll just make something up if necessary), so the guard members that Walz sent to police tRumps ICE stay loyal to the state government or turn to fed orders, was basically the question I was posing. Sorry if was convoluted.

[TheLurper]

Threatening to take Greenland and Canada is a big problem for America and the West in general.

This can easily grow into something that takes down a very powerful mutual alliance because Trump can only think in terms of leverage and domination rather than mutual aid.

I imagine all the BRICS are excited, but no one more than China because it is going to fill the US's place in the world by building on its already established economic might/ability to produce. Trump (and Russia) are cementing this as China's century.

Venezuela is just another example of American interfering with a Latin American country that doesn't have much power in the broad scheme of things. This could become a quagmire that we get stuck dealing with, but not one that takes us down. The death of NATO on the other hand is going to change the world for everyone.

The alliance amongst the West has had some serious problems, but losing this is going to make the world a lot worse. N. America and Europe is an insanely powerful bloc and the fact that it is that is being blown up cause Peter Thiel wants Greenland and Trump is upset Canadians (technically still British) burned down the White House in 1814 is heartbreaking.

There are lots of things that were established prior to my birth that were net negatives on my life (i.e. nearly anything Reagan promoted with his neo-liberal agenda), but NATO is one thing that has made my life better. NATO has done some stupid shit, but--in general--it is not an institution I'm excited to see fall.

It really is amazing at the start of the Ukraine/Russia war is the easiest explanation of how crazy it was and how close the two were in culture was people comparing USA/Canada. Well, here we are. We are going to graduate from silly South Park Canadian jokes to real hatred real quick. I've already seen it starting, I had people complain to me about how Canadians booed the American National Anthem at some hockey game. They were so upset about the anthem being booed, but didn't give a shit about the idea of invading Canada. That was just funny. 

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Threatening to take Greenland and Canada is a big problem for America and the West in general.

This can easily grow into something that takes down a very powerful mutual alliance because Trump can only think in terms of leverage and domination rather than mutual aid.

I imagine all the BRICS are excited, but no one more than China because it is going to fill the US's place in the world by building on its already established economic might/ability to produce. Trump (and Russia) are cementing this as China's century.

Venezuela is just another example of American interfering with a Latin American country that doesn't have much power in the broad scheme of things. This could become a quagmire that we get stuck dealing with, but not one that takes us down. The death of NATO on the other hand is going to change the world for everyone.

The alliance amongst the West has had some serious problems, but losing this is going to make the world a lot worse. N. America and Europe is an insanely powerful bloc and the fact that it is that is being blown up cause Peter Thiel wants Greenland and Trump is upset Canadians (technically still British) burned down the White House in 1814 is heartbreaking.

There are lots of things that were established prior to my birth that were net negatives on my life (i.e. nearly anything Reagan promoted with his neo-liberal agenda), but NATO is one thing that has made my life better. NATO has done some stupid shit, but--in general--it is not an institution I'm excited to see fall.

It really is amazing at the start of the Ukraine/Russia war is the easiest explanation of how crazy it was and how close the two were in culture was people comparing USA/Canada. Well, here we are. We are going to graduate from silly South Park Canadian jokes to real hatred real quick. I've already seen it starting, I had people complain to me about how Canadians booed the American National Anthem at some hockey game. They were so upset about the anthem being booed, but didn't give a shit about the idea of invading Canada. That was just funny. 

I have criticized NATO and its wars a lot, but as a German I don’t want NATO to end either. Thanks to Trump‘s and Putin‘s imperialism we are already in the process of bringing back mandatory military service. I don’t want my son to have to serve a year or possibly even fight a war. Europe is already building up its military. Germany will invest 200 billion in its defense. We desperately need investment in education and transportation, but instead we get 200 Billion Euros for Tanks and technology that in a best case scenario will rot in a warehouse somewhere.

The US profits greatly from its relations to Europe. The EU is the world‘s most important market. Trump loves to Stress Trade deficits, but even his calculations are bullshit. For example Germany does export much more goods to the US than the US to Germany, but the US exports a lot of important services to Germany (especially in the online sector). Trump never includes services in his calculations. This makes the deficit smaller.

Trump‘s strategy will be terrible in the long run. The EU will shift some of its trades to China and if NATO breaks up, the EU will further invest in defense and the US will lose a major influence on the EU, because it won’t rely as much on the US for its defense.

[Chalupa]

It’s takes 3-5 minutes to read but is worth it.

The Last Election
The presidential election in 2024 may be the last free vote taken in the United States. Dictatorships only hold elections with predetermined outcomes or do not hold them at all. Trump is no exception.
CHRIS HEDGES
JAN 19

Donald Trump’s threat to cancel the midterm elections is not a feign. He attempted to overturn the results of the 2020 election and said he would not accept the outcome of the 2024 election if he lost. He ruminates about defying the Constitution to serve a third term. He is determined to retain absolute control — buttressed by an obsequious Republican majority — in Congress. He fears, if he loses control of Congress, impeachment. He fears impediments to the rapid reconfiguration of America as an authoritarian state. He fears losing the monuments he is building to himself — his name emblazoned on federal buildings, including the Kennedy Center, his scrapping of free entry to National Parks on Martin Luther King Jr. Day and replacing it with his own birthday, his seizure of Greenland and who knows, maybe Canada, his ability to put cities, such as Minneapolis, under siege and snatch legal residents off the streets.

Dictators love elections as long as they are fixed. The dictatorships I covered in Latin America, the Middle East, Africa, and the Balkans staged highly choreographed election spectacles. These spectacles were a cynical prop whose outcome was preordained. They were used to legitimize iron control over a captive population, mask the enrichment of the dictator, his family and his inner circle, criminalize all dissent and ban opposition political parties in the name of “the will of the people.”

When Saddam Hussein held a presidential referendum in Oct. 1995, the only question on the ballot was “Do you approve of President Saddam Hussein being the President of the Republic?” Voters marked ‘yes’ or ‘no.’ The official results saw Hussein win 99.96 percent of some 8.4 million votes cast. Turnout was reported at 99.47 percent. His counterpart in Egypt, the former general Hosni Mubarak, in 2005 was re-elected for a fifth consecutive six-year term with a more modest mandate of 88.6 percent of the vote. My less than reverential coverage of the elections held in Syria in 1991, where there was only one candidate on the ballot, President Hafez al-Assad, who reportedly got 99.9 percent of the vote, saw me banned from the country.

These spectacles are the model, I expect, for what comes next, unless Trump gets his deepest wish, which is to emulate Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman of Saudi Arabia — whose security detail assassinated my colleague and friend Jamal Khashoggi in 2018 in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul — and hold no elections at all.

Wannabe president-for-life Trump floats the idea of canceling the 2026 midterm elections, telling Reuters that, “when you think of it, we shouldn’t even have an election.” When President Volodymyr Zelensky informed Trump elections were not held in Ukraine because of the war, Trump gushed, “So you mean if we happen to be in a war with somebody, no more elections? Oh, that’s good.”

Trump told The New York Times he regrets not directing the National Guard to seize voting machines after the 2020 election. He wants to abolish mail-in voting, along with voting machines and tabulators, which allow boards of elections to post results on election night. Better to slow the process down and like the Chicago political machine under Mayor Richard J. Daley, stuff boxes with ballots after the polls close to ensure victory.

Trump’s administration is prohibiting voter registration drives at naturalization centers. It is imposing nation-wide restrictive voter ID laws. It is reducing the hours that federal employees have to leave work and vote. In Texas, the new redistricting map blatantly disenfranchises Black and Latino voters, a move upheld by the Supreme Court. It is expected to eradicate five Congressional Democratic seats.

Our money-drenched elections, coupled with aggressive gerrymandering, mean few races for Congress are competitive. Recent redistricting has, so far, all but guaranteed the Republicans another nine seats in Texas, Missouri, North Carolina, and Ohio and six for the Democrats, five in California and one in Utah. Republicans intend to carry out more redistricting in Florida and Democrats plan a redistricting ballot initiative in Virginia. If the Supreme Court continues to gut the Voting Rights Act, then Republican redistricting will explode, possibly cementing into place a Republican victory whether the majority of voters want it or not. No one can call redistricting democratic.

The Supreme Court’s ruling in Citizens United took from us any real input into elections. Citizens United permitted unlimited money from corporations and wealthy individuals to rig the election process in the name of protected speech under the First Amendment. It ruled that heavily financed and organized lobbying by large corporations is an application of the people’s right to petition their government.

Our most basic rights, including the freedom from wholesale government surveillance, have been steadily revoked by judicial and legislative fiat.

The “consent of the governed” is a cruel joke.

There are few substantial differences between the Democrats and Republicans. They exist to provide the illusion of representative democracy. The Democrats and their liberal apologists adopt tolerant positions on issues regarding race, religion, immigration, women’s rights and sexual identity, and pretend this is politics. The right wing uses those on the margins of society — especially immigrants and the phantom “radical left” — as scapegoats. But on all the major issues — war, trade deals, austerity, militarized police, the vast carceral state and deindustrialization — they are in lockstep.

“One cannot point to any national institution(s) that can accurately be described as democratic,” the political philosopher Sheldon Wolin noted in his book “Democracy Incorporated,” “surely not in the highly managed, money-saturated elections, the lobby-infested Congress, the imperial presidency, the class-biased judicial and penal system, or, least of all, the media.”

Wolin called our system of governance “inverted totalitarianism.” It paid outward fealty to the façade of electoral politics, the Constitution, civil liberties, freedom of the press, the independence of the judiciary, and the iconography, traditions and language of American patriotism, while it allowed corporations and oligarchs to effectively seize all of the mechanisms of power to render the citizen impotent.

The emptiness of the political landscape under “inverted totalitarianism” saw politics merge with entertainment. It fostered a ceaseless political burlesque, a politics without politics. The subject of empire, along with unregulated corporate power, endless war, poverty and social inequality, became taboo.

These political spectacles create manufactured political personalities, Trump’s fictitious persona, a product of “The Apprentice.” They thrive on empty rhetoric, sophisticated public relations, slick advertising, propaganda and the constant use of focus groups and opinion polls to loop back to voters what they want to hear. The vapid, issueless and celebrity-driven presidential campaign of Kamala Harris was a sterling example of this political performance art.

The assault on democracy, carried out by the two ruling parties, set the stage for Trump. They emasculated our democratic institutions, stripped us of our most basic rights and cemented into place the machinery of authoritarian control, including the imperial presidency. All Trump had to do was flick the switch.

The indiscriminate police violence familiar in poor urban communities, where militarized police serve as judge, jury and executioner, long ago handed the state the power to “legally” harass and kill citizens with impunity. It spawned the largest prison population in the world. This evisceration of civil liberties and due process has now been turned on the rest of us. Trump did not initiate it. He expanded it. Terror is the point.

Trump, like all dictators, is intoxicated by militarism. He is calling for the Pentagon’s budget to be raised from $1 trillion to $1.5 trillion. Congress, in passing Trump’s One Big Beautiful Act, has allocated more than $170 billion for border and interior enforcement, including $75 billion for ICE over the next four years. That is more than the yearly budget for all local and state law enforcement agencies combined.

“When a constitutionally limited government utilizes weapons of horrendous destructive power, subsidizes their development, and becomes the world’s largest arms dealer,” Wolin writes, “the Constitution is conscripted to serve as power’s apprentice rather than its conscience.”

He goes on:

That the patriotic citizen unswervingly supports the military and its huge budget means that conservatives have succeeded in persuading the public that the military is distinct from government. Thus, the most substantial element of state power is removed from public debate. Similarly, in his/her new status as imperial citizen the believer remains contemptuous of bureaucracy yet does not hesitate to obey the directives issued by the Department of Homeland Security, the largest and most intrusive governmental department in the history of the nation. Identification with militarism and patriotism, along with the images of American might projected by the media, serves to make the individual citizen feel stronger, thereby compensating for the feelings of weakness visited by the economy upon an overworked, exhausted, and insecure labor force.

The Democrats in the next election — if there is one — will offer up least-worst alternatives while doing little or nothing to thwart the march toward authoritarianism. They will remain hostage to the demands of corporate lobbyists and oligarchs. The party, which stands for nothing and fights for nothing, could well hand Trump a victory in the midterms. But Trump does not want to take that chance.

Trump and his minions are energetically closing the last exit built into the system that prevents absolute dictatorship. They intend to orchestrate the sham elections familiar in all dictatorships, or abolish them. They are not joking. This will be the death blow to the American experiment. There will be no going back. We will become a police state. Our freedoms, already under heavy assault, will be extinguished. At that point, only mass mobilizations and strikes will thwart the solidification of the dictatorship. And such actions, as we see in Minneapolis, will be greeted with lethal state repression.

The subverting of the next elections will offer two stark choices to Trump’s most vocal opponents. Exile or arrest and imprisonment at the hands of ICE thugs.

Resistance to the beast, as in all dictatorships, will come at a very high cost.

President Donald Trump sent a a letter on Jan 18 to Norwegian Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre in which complained about not winning the Nobel Peace Prize, saying he no longer will think “purely of Peace” as a result. Trump went on to assert that only a “Complete and Total Control of Greenland” by the U.S. could keep the world “secure."

Trump’s letter was first reported by PBS journalist Nick Schifrin in an X post, was later confirmed by Støre to the Norwegian outlet VG.

“Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America,” the letter says.

Støre told VG that the letter came in response to a short message earlier in the day from him and the President of Finland, Alexander Stubb.

"I have done more for NATO than any other person since its founding, and now, NATO should do something for the United States. The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland," the letter says.

Greenland is an autonomous territory within the Kingdom of Denmark. Trump has said acquiring the territory is essential to U.S. national security and to "protect" it from Russia and China.

President Donald Trump is interviewed by Reuters White House correspondent Steve Holland (not pictured) in the Oval Office on Jan. 14, 2026.
Støre on Jan. 17,pushed back on Trump's insistence that U.S. should control Greenland, saying.

"Threats have no place among allies. Norway's position is firm: Greenland is part of the Kingdom of Denmark. Norway fully supports the sovereignty of the Kingdom of Denmark," he wrote on X. "There is broad agreement in NATO on the need to strengthen security in the Arctic, including in Greenland."

Meanwhile, Trump announced on Jan. 17 that a 10% tariff would be imposed on all goods sent to the U.S. from Denmark, Norway, Sweden, France, Germany, the U.K., the Netherlands and Finland unless “a Deal is reached for the Complete and Total purchase of Greenland.”

European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen and President of the European Council Antonio Costa issued a statement on Jan. 17 saying "Territorial integrity and sovereignty are fundamental principles of international law" and adding that the EU “stands in full solidarity with Denmark and the people of Greenland.”

[AnimalChinaski79]

Chris Hedges is a national treasure.  Too bad most people don't know who he is. 

[Canuck]

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Threatening to take Greenland and Canada is a big problem for America and the West in general.

This can easily grow into something that takes down a very powerful mutual alliance because Trump can only think in terms of leverage and domination rather than mutual aid.

I imagine all the BRICS are excited, but no one more than China because it is going to fill the US's place in the world by building on its already established economic might/ability to produce. Trump (and Russia) are cementing this as China's century.

Venezuela is just another example of American interfering with a Latin American country that doesn't have much power in the broad scheme of things. This could become a quagmire that we get stuck dealing with, but not one that takes us down. The death of NATO on the other hand is going to change the world for everyone.

The alliance amongst the West has had some serious problems, but losing this is going to make the world a lot worse. N. America and Europe is an insanely powerful bloc and the fact that it is that is being blown up cause Peter Thiel wants Greenland and Trump is upset Canadians (technically still British) burned down the White House in 1814 is heartbreaking.

There are lots of things that were established prior to my birth that were net negatives on my life (i.e. nearly anything Reagan promoted with his neo-liberal agenda), but NATO is one thing that has made my life better. NATO has done some stupid shit, but--in general--it is not an institution I'm excited to see fall.

It really is amazing at the start of the Ukraine/Russia war is the easiest explanation of how crazy it was and how close the two were in culture was people comparing USA/Canada. Well, here we are. We are going to graduate from silly South Park Canadian jokes to real hatred real quick. I've already seen it starting, I had people complain to me about how Canadians booed the American National Anthem at some hockey game. They were so upset about the anthem being booed, but didn't give a shit about the idea of invading Canada. That was just funny. 

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I don’t want my son to have to serve a year or possibly even fight a war. Europe is already building up its military. Germany will invest 200 billion in its defense. We desperately need investment in education and transportation, but instead we get 200 Billion Euros for Tanks and technology that in a best case scenario will rot in a warehouse somewhere.

This. I can't believe how shitty and dog eat dog our world still is.

[Chalupa]

[h00man]

US has officially withdrawn from WHO:

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/us-officially-exits-world-health-organization-accusing-agency/story?id=129455089

Literally the only country to withdraw lmao were so fucked

[TastyBurrito]

Legit, should a Democrat get back into office in 2028, what are the realistic chances that we can get back into WHO and the good graces of our EU allies, NATO, and the UN?

[EdLawndale]

See, a main part of the problem of re-electing this guy, and letting him cook the books now, is that he is attempting to change the narrative and portray himself as a victim in situations where he was clearly the villain (i.e. January 6). Case in point, this $5B lawsuit he has filed against JPMorgan Chase. It's really disheartening.

[GnarAlarm]

Legit, should a Democrat get back into office in 2028, what are the realistic chances that we can get back into WHO and the good graces of our EU allies, NATO, and the UN?

All bullshit aside, I would think they'd strongly prefer us to be allies. There would be growing pains to be sure but I'd think we could re-up with them relatively smoothly if all the scum was banished and reasonable adults were in charge again.

Here's hoping we have elections and if we do here's hoping they're not rigged...

[RichardBarkley]

Did anyone watch his Davos speech?

Actually laughable how fucking stupid he is. He kept calling Greenland... Iceland and saying he was the big daddy.

Fucking stupid cunt.

[TastyBurrito]

Did anyone watch his Davos speech?

Actually laughable how fucking stupid he is. He kept calling Greenland... Iceland and saying he was the big daddy.

Fucking stupid cunt.

There’s even worse than that, he basically kept insulting world leaders there by telling them “you’re not as good as us.” Making claims that we defeated food poverty (more so just kicking people off food benefits), lying about raising our quality of living and taking down inflation single handedly, cut federal spending (he raised our debt again), and defeating clean energy over his clean-burning coal and oil (doesn’t exist). All before telling them how their countries basically did nothing for us (we are the only ones to enact Article 5 of NATO Treaty).

While he is dumb for calling Greenland Iceland, he spent more time insulting allies and world leaders at what is basically a peace summit to talk about improving the world together.

Again, why I poised the question of whether our relationships with these countries can be saved? Because even if we get another Dem in the White House, these countries know the other half of our nation is still filled with hateful morons who will make it their mission to once again alienate them and isolate the country from the rest of the world.

[devils acrobat]

Legit, should a Democrat get back into office in 2028, what are the realistic chances that we can get back into WHO and the good graces of our EU allies, NATO, and the UN?

In my limited political understanding I would assume 'we' (the EU) would let out a big sigh of relief and welcome 'you' back rightaway. That is, if we havent imploded by then due to destabilizing actions by rightwing parties which we helped into power by democratic elections.

[RichardBarkley]

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Legit, should a Democrat get back into office in 2028, what are the realistic chances that we can get back into WHO and the good graces of our EU allies, NATO, and the UN?

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In my limited political understanding I would assume 'we' (the EU) would let out a big sigh of relief and welcome 'you' back rightaway. That is, if we havent imploded by then due to destabilizing actions by rightwing parties which we helped into power by democratic elections.

Would we ?

All it takes is 4 years for the tide to turn again and any positive changes be reversed.

US has shown its not a credible partner and honestly this could take decades to fix.

[Billy Bitchcakes]

[Plan9Customs]

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Legit, should a Democrat get back into office in 2028, what are the realistic chances that we can get back into WHO and the good graces of our EU allies, NATO, and the UN?

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In my limited political understanding I would assume 'we' (the EU) would let out a big sigh of relief and welcome 'you' back rightaway. That is, if we havent imploded by then due to destabilizing actions by rightwing parties which we helped into power by democratic elections.

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Would we ?

All it takes is 4 years for the tide to turn again and any positive changes be reversed.

US has shown its not a credible partner and honestly this could take decades to fix.

Sadly this is completely correct. I can’t blame any other nation for saying it either. We’re being controlled by a Russian asshat and everything he’s doing is only helping Russia and China gain power. Only cost Putin a few trolls astroturfing and a couple thousand bots. Fucking pathetic.

Well all know ICE has orders to illegally enter homes now right? Think that was unintentional? Nope they want one of their SA to get shot so they can declare martial law. Let’s not forget they’re kidnapping literal children:

https://apnews.com/article/immigration-minnesota-boy-father-detained-342f319fafb766d13afe07f5bcc1f112

Explain how we’re not the fucking evil power here. I guess the kid was out murdering rich whites and selling drugs? Maybe he made fun of JD Prance or dRumphs dancing? Burning flags? Blood thirsty gang member?
Fuck this shit.

@devils acrobat hopefully shit works better for your country than it did with ours. Stay strong and have a plan if it doesn’t.

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Legit, should a Democrat get back into office in 2028, what are the realistic chances that we can get back into WHO and the good graces of our EU allies, NATO, and the UN?

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In my limited political understanding I would assume 'we' (the EU) would let out a big sigh of relief and welcome 'you' back rightaway. That is, if we havent imploded by then due to destabilizing actions by rightwing parties which we helped into power by democratic elections.

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Would we ?

All it takes is 4 years for the tide to turn again and any positive changes be reversed.

US has shown its not a credible partner and honestly this could take decades to fix.

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Well all know ICE has orders to illegally enter homes now right? Think that was unintentional? Nope they want one of their SA to get shot so they can declare martial law. Let’s not forget they’re kidnapping literal children:

This. Trump is looking for any and all ways to label those who protest as Domestic Terrorists and incite Martial Law.

When an ICE Agent is shot barging through the door, it's going to be a BIG Constitutional debate when it comes to 2A. Because when someone is arrested and charged for murder when they're protecting their house from masked people who don't announce themselves before breaking down your door, does the 2nd Amendment exist anymore.

[Plan9Customs]

I’ve been saying to the 2A fanatics that he’s going to be the one who takes your weapons. Dictators don’t want an armed populace.
 It’s funny when it happens to others but they don’t bother to think it’s going to happen to them as well. People don’t have critical thinking skills any long unfortunately.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTs_T4uEWzX/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
Sorry I’m to stupid to embed.

[TastyBurrito]

I’ve been saying to the 2A fanatics that he’s going to be the one who takes your weapons. Dictators don’t want an armed populace.
 It’s funny when it happens to others but they don’t bother to think it’s going to happen to them as well. People don’t have critical thinking skills any long unfortunately.

This 100%. For the party that fought to give felons and people who have history of domestic violence and FBI flags their guns back under the premise that taking them away goes against their constitutional rights, they openly suggested banning trans people from owning them under the guise of mental health risks as well as people who regularly smoke weed.

It's not that they don't want an armed populace, they don't want people who aren't blindly loyal to them to own guns.

[devils acrobat]

@devils acrobat hopefully shit works better for your country than it did with ours. Stay strong and have a plan if it doesn’t.

Thanks man, our political system is less focused on one person and also we dont have a de facto two party democracy which should help. But then, historical precedents have shown how quickly it can change.

Your point about having a plan got me triggered. Because I dont have one. Wanna share yours? Oftentimes I feel so powerless looking at the world.

[Chalupa]

http://www.instagram.com/reel/DT5l7rfjbtT/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

The KKK is executing people for fun.