Changes under Trump 2.0

[GardenSkater77]

It really doesn’t help me that it just makes my blood boil looking at any of those scum bags faces. I wish I could watch that piece of shit Greg getting schooled for 20 minutes (or whatever happened in the video) but I can’t even watch it. Unless it’s him getting a taste of his own medicine I’m not looking at his scumbag face.

I agree that you have to be in an unemotional state to watch this but Dana trapped him many times during the interview and we learned a lot about the evidence they have (mostly by omission) and his view on law enforcement.

Take aways:

-if you are in the vicinity of border patrol/ICE agent you are threatening them and they are the victim.
-the man who was killed was a ‘suspect’. So was the lady who was shoved to the ground.
-carrying a gun at a protest is only acceptable if you are not deemed a threat by an agent.
-Just because his gun was removed doesn’t mean he didn’t have other weapons.
-they CANNOT prove that he went for his gun.
-and…

The main point was that the STATE said that he was ‘brandishing’ a firearm which Dana pointed out is a legal term that she challenged him on multiple times. She read the legal definition of ‘brandishing’ and said point blank that nothing in the video shows him brandishing anything more than a cell phone. At which point HH cosplay scum bag said that is why we need to conduct an investigation’. To which Dana said that the state has already made this claim prior to the investigation.

Also, we found out that the border patrol murders are still on the street just in another location.

This type of shit has been going on in prisons in America since the inception of the penal system. But I have never seen it apart from the civil rights era (in recorded form obviously it happens every day in low income areas) happening on the street.

Edit: if you would rather watch a breakdown of the interview not the entire interview then I think Sam Stein did a good job of highlighting what I attempted to highlight.

https://youtu.be/F_3JoSmciZk?si=6du7ddZqcepxfa5m

[Painted Baby]

This is a very good interview and surprised it was allowed to occur on CNN. Dana Bash will surely have a You Tube channel only soon…

https://youtu.be/-VBJx116hqk?si=Q39Fd7jh84l9cN-M

On the plus side, 93% of Warner Bros Discovery shareholders rejected Paramount's hostile takeover bid and the deadline was January 21st. Now they'd if just can Scott Jennings then maybe they can stop both sidesing the military coup we're in the middle of. I'm not deluded enough to think that legacy media is gonna do shit but serve content they think will get them ratings but it would be nice to not have an actual turd in the punchbowl at every roundtable discussion that CNN can't get enough of airing.

[augustmoon]

Re: Prisons.  Don’t forget they basically admitted that they strangled a detainee to death in an Ice facilty a week or so ago.  It barely made a blip.  Who knows what’s actually going on in there, and even worse what’s going on in their facilities overseas


The guy strangled in Ice custody was painted as a sex offender in order to justify his murder.  Alex Pretti and Renee Good were called terrorists to justify theirs.  How long before simply labeling you a “democrat” will justify your murder. 

This is obviously been following the roadmap of Nazi Germany for a while now, but I feel like the predatory capitalism and performative evangelical fake Christianity of America is going to make it even more extreme.  The fact that the tech oligarchy is pulling the strings is going turbo charge the trajectory of it all. 

[Chalupa]

The fact that the tech oligarchy is pulling the strings is going turbo charge the trajectory of it all.

Palantir created the database, app and software for ICE agents to take facial scans of everyone. Everyone in the database has a score that correlates to threat level. Getting scanned while protesting gets you labeled as a dangerous domestic terrorist by the domestic terrorists.

[Painted Baby]

Thiel thinks he's Ozymandias. It's so fucking fried to fashion yourself after a super villain but they've been hinting at it for years. I guess he (co)wrote this article a few months back and this video essay makes it pretty clear what he's up to even if Thiel himself somehow seems to miss the parallels between him and his lol Antichrist figure.


Here's the article if you have the stomach for it. I don't.
https://firstthings.com/voyages-to-the-end-of-the-world/

[GardenSkater77]

The world was so much safer when people with money had a grip on reality. The tech bros are in some sort of alternate universe of good and evil where only they can save humanity. I really hope this is just a slight deviation in the space time continuum, but hearing from my kids how lacking in humanity their classmates are I am truly frightened for the future tech bros of America.

[OldieButFrenchie]

I saw the latest news from Minneapolis and I'm at a loss for words here.... I avoided this thread for a long time.
I don't live in the US so I just don't wanted to deal with all this.
But I gotta say I really hope this is a turning point and the US finally recovers its senses and realizes Trump has gone way too far.

I actually had an argument about all this with my oldest son yesterday, I was trying to explain the US is not that bad as a country... He's convinced it's a hellhole, to borrow from Trump's vocabulary. It's crazy, cause when I was his age, the US seemed like a dream place.

Also regarding the posts above, I had never heard of Peter Thiel until now and I just don't understand these people. How do you deal with the cognitive dissonance of being gay and a christian at the same time? His wikipedia page is a rabbit hole of crazy shit....Sorry for the rambling, I intend to follow the discussion here from now on. But I won't have much to contribute as a European. One thing I can tell you is that pretty much 99% of people I know here are convinced Trump is crazy and/or stupid.

[TheLurper]

Dollar is losing value against its peers. I wonder if this is a short term slide or something bigger.

Even the financial news is all short term dramatic framing. It is difficult to understand what is going on a macro or historical level.

[I-am-12]

This won't end until we do a General strike and (honestly) destroy the entire system itself (capitalism as we know it).

Learn about the military industrial complex and the need for infinite growth in capitalism. Know that all of this "training" and tactics come from the IDF. Our police our literally trained by the IDF. Unless some shit goes down, there's nothing stopping us from becoming like the Gazans...

[GnarAlarm]

Bovino sounds so similar to DaFino that every time I hear his name, in my I head I say...



And stay away from my special...from my...fuckin' lady friend, man!

[AnimalChinaski79]

A brother seamus!

An Irish monk?

Bovino sounds so similar to DaFino that every time I hear his name, in my I head I say...



And stay away from my special...from my...fuckin' lady friend, man!

[whale]

Wish Walter was there to tell Donny T to shut up

[Atiba Applebum]

Wish Walter was there to tell Donny T to shut up

Considering who Walter was based on, he might not this time

[radcunt]

All the aggressive ICE operations in swing-state cities seems to all be to set the stage for interference in the midterms through voter intimidation, claims of emergency, or attempts to federalize election oversight.  Just terrorise people enough that when you roll out Ice into all the dem states, people will be too scared to turn up.

Plus over half of the Project 2025 agenda has been implemented IN THE FIRST YEAR.  At least 20 Project 2025 authors now hold administration positions.

It's going to be next to impossible to turn this around, voting isn't going to be enough and there's no chance any fair vote will be allowed to take place.

[TheLurper]

If the goal was just immigration, ICE wouldn't be focused on Portland or Minneapolis. Two relatively small cities that are super white.

If the goal was immigration, I imagine Miami, Dallas, Houston, etc. would be at the forefront of the "enforcement."

Also, lack of professionalism is astounding. Masks (I could have sworn masks were evil just a couple years ago), no uniforms, reduced training, and unmarked cars are not attributes of first world enforcement agencies.

[Painted Baby]

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Wish Walter was there to tell Donny T to shut up

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Considering who Walter was based on, he might not this time

It's funny. I never knew it was based on John Milius but immediately knew who you were talking about right now.

Look, I love Conan the Barbarian, maybe more than the next guy, but I caught a white supremacist reading off of it one day and it's been hard to unsee it. Teutonic ubermensch destroys the cult of the dark skinned snake worshipper and frees the fair concubines, all set to the Reich's favorite compose Carl Orf (at least the trailer was anyway.)

[TastyBurrito]

If the goal was just immigration, ICE wouldn't be focused on Portland or Minneapolis. Two relatively small cities that are super white.

Pam Bondi already made it clear, it’s about getting the state’s voter rolls. She said it to them, “give us your voter rolls and I’ll have ICE leave.”

[Atiba Applebum]

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Wish Walter was there to tell Donny T to shut up

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Considering who Walter was based on, he might not this time

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It's funny. I never knew it was based on John Milius but immediately knew who you were talking about right now.

Look, I love Conan the Barbarian, maybe more than the next guy, but I caught a white supremacist reading off of it one day and it's been hard to unsee it. Teutonic ubermensch destroys the cult of the dark skinned snake worshipper and frees the fair concubines, all set to the Reich's favorite compose Carl Orf (at least the trailer was anyway.)

Woof yeah that’s a gnarly connection to see

Not to mention Milius supposedly came up with the “octagon” for UfC in its nascent days and that’s the sport of the administration

[GardenSkater77]

All the aggressive ICE operations in swing-state cities seems to all be to set the stage for interference in the midterms through voter intimidation, claims of emergency, or attempts to federalize election oversight.  Just terrorise people enough that when you roll out Ice into all the dem states, people will be too scared to turn up.

Plus over half of the Project 2025 agenda has been implemented IN THE FIRST YEAR.  At least 20 Project 2025 authors now hold administration positions.

It's going to be next to impossible to turn this around, voting isn't going to be enough and there's no chance any fair vote will be allowed to take place.

The fact that you know this much about American politics is quite an indictment on how bad it has gotten.

[Chalupa]

Murdering people in USA isn’t enough. They want to brutalize people in other countries with taxpayers’ money. Private security firms would charge a fraction of whatever this will cost.

[TastyBurrito]

Murdering people in USA isn’t enough. They want to brutalize people in other countries with taxpayers’ money. Private security firms would charge a fraction of whatever this will cost.

ICE to be security to VP and Sec of State. You know, jobs for the SECRET SERVICE! Let’s just call ICE what they are — SS Brownshirts.

[fuck_that_guy]

ok fuck that bovino guy

[Atiba Applebum]

ok fuck that bovino guy

Looks like he’s the fall guy.   Got removed from leadership role and sent back to CA and Trump calls him “out there”.

[Painted Baby]

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ok fuck that bovino guy

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Looks like he’s the fall guy.   Got removed from leadership role and sent back to CA and Trump calls him “out there”.

MFer he's "out there" doing what Stephen Miller told him to do. They're not walking this back but I'm gonna try to derive some joy from watching them try.

[TastyBurrito]

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ok fuck that bovino guy

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Looks like he’s the fall guy.   Got removed from leadership role and sent back to CA and Trump calls him “out there”.

To be fair, everyone is the fall guy for Trump. With Trump it’s never “IF he’ll throw you under the bus,” it’s “WHEN will he throw you under the bus.”

Also, Kash Patel is doing a criminal investigation into a Signal App chat that talk about ICE movement and locations. Yet, he declined to investigate when Hegseth used Signal to discuss sensitive military attack plans.

[Atiba Applebum]

I just can’t believe they actually went against 2a

[Chalupa]

I just can’t believe they actually went against 2a

They’ll sacrifice any beliefs to “own the libs.”

[TastyBurrito]

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I just can’t believe they actually went against 2a

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They’ll sacrifice any beliefs to “own the libs.”

And they’ll still run on the platform in 2028 that the Democrat candidate is going to take your guns.

[Atiba Applebum]

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I just can’t believe they actually went against 2a

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They’ll sacrifice any beliefs to “own the libs.”

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And they’ll still run on the platform in 2028 that the Democrat candidate is going to take your guns.

I think Marco is the only one who could run on that since he hasn’t had any video of him saying that.   You’ve got even the NrA criticizing these guys

[TastyBurrito]

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I just can’t believe they actually went against 2a

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They’ll sacrifice any beliefs to “own the libs.”

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And they’ll still run on the platform in 2028 that the Democrat candidate is going to take your guns.

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I think Marco is the only one who could run on that since he hasn’t had any video of him saying that.   You’ve got even the NrA criticizing these guys

Sadly, any Republican will just play the “I didn’t say that” and/or “That’s not true” line and their followers will just go with it.