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Re: TARIFFS AND THE SKATE INDUSTRY
« Reply #90 on: December 02, 2024, 11:46:33 AM »
I wonder how many people are actually willing to pay more for goods and services to make sure an American makes decent money. I question this for a few reasons:

1. Macro: Dollar General, Walmart, and Amazon are all known to treat their low level laborers like shit. Does this stop anyone from shopping there? Not many. All three continue to do very well among consumers. Dollar General and Walmart being conservative favorites.
2. Social Science: People are poor predictors of their own behavior. Asking people "What would you do in x scenario?" is awful research, the better questions is, "What did you do in x scenario?" We would all say that we wouldn't shock someone to death because they answered a question wrong, but Milgram showed us that most of us would. 
3. Poor Sampling: Much of SLAP isn't always a fan of paying more to support skateboarding, something we've all based our lives around: https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=130377.0 and has already complained about the cost of boards https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=126940.0
4. Anecdotal: I've tried convincing family members who complain about their working conditions or those lucky enough to have a union job to support companies that are unionized or treat their workers well, none of them give a shit. I repeat what my poli sci prof taught me,"We have two votes in America, our actual vote and our money. " and then add on, "If you want better working conditions shop at places that treat workers well and ignore the places that don't" and they shrug it off. Low prices is all that matters to them.

While I think there is a better moral story around this potential Trumpflation than around the post-pandemic inflation, "We're suffering for other Americans and to make our country strong" vs "restarting factories and supply chains takes time AND lots of people are trying to post-pandemic spend all at the same time", I don't think many will actually give a shit about others. I don't think we are moving into a post-individualist America that embraces communal values. It is like the people who say "spending money on Ukraine is wrong that money could got to help Americans" and then say, "Fuck government housing, fuck socialized medicine, fuck all that communist Marxist shit." They don't want to help Americans, they just want an excuse to not fight against a country that they don't understand. And I certainly don't think Canadians, Europeans, Africans, etc. give a fuck about American jobs nor do I think "Made in America" symbolizes quality like it did 70 years ago.

I can't stress potential Trumpflation enough as tariff exceptions will be made, companies had to be preparing for this, and companies might quietly eat the costs temporarily to get big tax breaks and get weaker worker safety laws.

Damn, rich people do really have all the votes!
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« Reply #91 on: December 02, 2024, 12:28:48 PM »
I will begrudgingly pay Half Cab prices for Vans Slip-Ons in a year or two from now, but hopefully my Black Friday hauls will prevent me from buying shit until 2026.

Take advantage of those Cyber Monday deals, if you can.

The only times I’ve seen price drops that were not on past-season goods was when companies priced their goods so high, they were barely moving any. Marshall dropped the prices of all their amps in at least USA and Magnatone had a 5-watt amp that switched pricing from $1299 to $1799 to $1499.

Autozone and other companies have already stated that they’ll increase prices and pass the expenses onto the consumers. I can already see FOX News blaming Biden.

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« Reply #92 on: December 02, 2024, 05:01:33 PM »
Let’s be real. Taking wood from Canada and shipping it to China to be turned into skateboard decks to be sold in USA/EU/etc is bad enough.

Worse is the fact that the skateboard industry is founded on glorifying the destruction of said resource hungry artefacts in a grotesque frenzy that leaves bricks and mortar and flesh and bone mutilated.

Skateboarding is a consumerist fire that ought to be extinguished.

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« Reply #93 on: December 02, 2024, 06:25:48 PM »
Stupid people always make the world seem so simple. But it’s because they’re stupid, not because the world is simple. Because it isn’t. They just lack the ability to comprehend it.
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« Reply #94 on: December 02, 2024, 06:34:14 PM »
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It's not as insane to make skateboards in America as you think, they use a lot of the same technology that is used in plywood style furniture making, theres probably plenty of those mfg places that need steady business. Supernaut did their own boards for a while and I'm pretty sure that was at a furniture factory in northern California, Gangenmi did Vehicle boards out of his family's furniture manufacturer. Anyone remember Taylor-Dykema boards? they did a lot of peoples wood and I randomly googled them one day and they did tons of MFG for other word related products. Prime still does boards in California it think? Also if you remember Schmitt said all the industry got their uncut blanks from water ski companies in the 80s, and it worked well cuz those companies were slow in the winter. Of course idk if anyone even water skies anymore truthfully and all of that manufacturing might be outsourced overseas by now. American skateboard mfging is possible, I don't actually think it's going to happen but it can.
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« Reply #95 on: January 11, 2025, 03:06:59 PM »
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The prices will still go up even if production is here because of labor costs
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All the maple is imported from Canada.  Try again.

This is the real point. I live in Quebec, it's our (& Ontario's) maple in every board. We already pay to have it manufactured in the US/MX then shipped back to us. Boards are about to get way more expensive.

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« Reply #96 on: January 11, 2025, 03:26:30 PM »
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The prices will still go up even if production is here because of labor costs
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All the maple is imported from Canada.  Try again.
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This is the real point. I live in Quebec, it's our (& Ontario's) maple in every board. We already pay to have it manufactured in the US/MX then shipped back to us. Boards are about to get way more expensive.

According to tactics the boards they use are BBS but the description on site says Wisconsin maple. So unless trees are being shipped to Canada for processing, I don’t see why a US factory would need to import from Canada if BBS isn’t.

Also US can already produce price/quality competitive boards. Wouldn’t they continue to do that if they aren’t importing wood. I think the only deck component that isn’t made here is transfer sheets

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« Reply #97 on: January 11, 2025, 03:39:21 PM »
It's entirely possible the 100% Canadian Maple paradigm is no longer the case. It was a selling point for decades. Colder winters= slower growing, stronger maples. Makes sense some US states have good wood that way. Been curious.

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« Reply #98 on: January 11, 2025, 06:15:03 PM »
It's entirely possible the 100% Canadian Maple paradigm is no longer the case. It was a selling point for decades. Colder winters= slower growing, stronger maples. Makes sense some US states have good wood that way. Been curious.

I’ve seen plenty of “North American maple” and “Great Lakes region” in descriptions for decks and printshops

There’s lot border area where the tree can grow.



I’d pass on that Tennessee maple construction though

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« Reply #99 on: January 11, 2025, 08:17:22 PM »
Be nice if Chapman took advantage to come back. Ps. I’m down to smuggle trucks and wheels.

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« Reply #100 on: January 12, 2025, 02:21:43 AM »
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Any sales lost in the US as a result of the tariffs pushing prices up too far will have to be recouped from International sales. If US parent company/brand sees 20% loss in sales they'll make it up by having raised wholesale to International distros. The world will pay for the tariffs so "the Board" still makes bank.
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At the very basic level of thinking, these manufacturers would move operations to the United States. However, that's not something that happens over night. It will take several years (if they even go that route). Building out new facilities, getting out of contracts with manufacturers overseas, etc is not simple and takes time.

I’m sure they gonna raise prices, wait 4 or 8 years and see what the future brings. No way industries are gonna invest billions to move productions back to US right when the tariffs hit. It’s not that easy to just „move“.

 There’s a reason shit is kinda dirt cheap and it’s the abuse of wealth inequality aka globalization. Some dude in Asia is ok with doing hard work for a couple bucks a day. A dude in the US definitely won’t. Especially if you export the millions who might do it for 10-15 bucks an hour. That’s still like 50-100x cost just for workforce.

So you go back to pre-globalized times where you better make sure that clothes you bought 3 years ago gonna last you another seven. Because it’s gonna cost you like a monthly salary to get new stuff and not like 5 bucks for a shirt made in Bangladesh.

That’s like the extreme scenario. I don’t think Donald will go trough with his radical shit. His team will have to stop him because it’s not gonna work in the real world.
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« Reply #101 on: January 12, 2025, 02:57:10 AM »
Who’s gonna be the first to go on the nineclub and regurgitate the “just build a shop in LA and let the homeless press boards” idea suggested on page one because that is funny as hell. Would definitely have worked as a scene in Idiocracy/BOS.


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« Reply #102 on: January 12, 2025, 01:49:31 PM »
Brace yourself. Dancer will become incredible expensive (more than it is today), if Denmark don't give Greenland to the US. Trump threatening us with high tariffs and military force if we don't give our territory to the US  ;D

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« Reply #104 on: January 31, 2025, 03:44:58 PM »
Do not see these tariffs being applied to Canada. Imports from Canada are cheap, reliable and the infrastructure-logistics have been in place for decades. The skate industry will unintentionally benefit, from some multinational corporation stepping in and being like wtf, stop this madness.

 

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« Reply #105 on: January 31, 2025, 04:16:15 PM »
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« Reply #106 on: January 31, 2025, 04:23:46 PM »
For once I don’t feel like a complete asshole for my skatehoarding. Im gtg for life at this juncture.
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« Reply #107 on: January 31, 2025, 07:45:23 PM »
This is fucked
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« Reply #108 on: January 31, 2025, 11:02:48 PM »
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« Reply #110 on: February 01, 2025, 10:36:09 AM »
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Do not see these tariffs being applied to Canada. Imports from Canada are cheap, reliable and the infrastructure-logistics have been in place for decades. The skate industry will unintentionally benefit, from some multinational corporation stepping in and being like wtf, stop this madness.
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Are you not reading the news? They’re placing a 25% Tariff on Mexico and Canada with 10% to China. This will fuck the skate industry so bad if it goes down.

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No doubt tariffs have the potential to fuck things up. But they also make room for bartering.


Also though the skate industry isn't going to see much of an effect. We did this shit with Trump already when his shit response to covid caused lumber prices and inflation to skyrocket and stay there practically. The industry did not die. Largery in part cause folks stopped bitching about 70 dollar decks almost immediately. The problem with skateboarding is the consumer. Regardless of what they charge for this bullshit they will buy it and continue to do so. If decks go to 80/90 bucks people still gonna buy em. They could do that now no tariffs and people would still buy em.

I'm not saying that tariffs don't have the potential to fuck up life for us temporarily but in all the media doom posting they don't mention that they could also benefit of it us.

There's always this focus on the American economy and American industries with this shit. But the idea that Mexico or Canada is gonna find a trade partner as large as America overnight is odd to me. These exports to American are ingrained in their own economies. One of mexicos biggest export is automobiles and heavy equipment that for the most part are made entirely in accordance to regulations in America. You can't just ship those cars and machines elsewhere without completely reforming and retooling your manufacturing industry. This gives America leverage.

If the Canadian lumber relies heavily on America. Specifically the building of houses out of wood. Something alot of European and even central American countries don't do. They use concrete and bricks and other building materials primarily. Again there is leverage in our favor there. Canandian Automobiles factories the same.

It's not as simple as the media makes it out to be. Regardless of where you fall on the political aisle. Trump is crazy and no doubt fucking things up. But you can't fall into the doom inducing shit just yet. Its to nuanced and complicated an issue.

On one hand you have a guy who just says shit to say it. But like on the other you a have media that refuse to tell you that these tariffs could just as quickly help the economy and existing trade deals in multiple ways. Be it by bartering current agreements with these countries. Or by putting more reliance into industry and commodities domestically.

Idk not a trump guy and am scared regardless but it's just not as simple as you'd think or at least what most media is leading you onto beleive.

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Re: TARIFFS AND THE SKATE INDUSTRY
« Reply #111 on: February 01, 2025, 11:00:59 AM »
Decks cost $50 when I started skating in '97. In that time a 55¢ candy bar now costs $3.79. Gas was $1.09 when I got my license. I really don't give a fuck if decks cost more, and am surprised they don't already. I have a job and am going to buy skateboards no matter what. Maybe instead I should spend my time worrying about shit I have no control over.

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« Reply #112 on: February 01, 2025, 01:01:44 PM »
"The media is lying to you, I assume. I don't know actually know because I'm not reading or watching any of it, but I still have a strong opinion on what the media is telling you.

Tariffs aren't bad. History and others are all lying to you."  ::)


There are bits of truth in here, but the reductionism is amazing.

Board prices went up in during covid, but the skate industry, was also seeing a huge boom from people having free time again. Post-covid, sales have dropped and shops have too much product because many people are back in the office and at school and they don't have free time anymore. And, American's savings accounts have dwindled over the past few years.
https://www.depositaccounts.com/blog/households-savings-study.html#:~:text=The%20average%20household%20savings%20account%20balance%20in%202023%20was%20%2454%2C150,average%20savings%20account%20balances%20decrease.

"The media is only paying the attention to the American market in this... I mean, I'd guess, I don't know cause once again, I've already said, I am not reading or watching anything. I'm just making shit up."
I can say as a dual citizen between the US and Canada there is a lot of talk about how this affects all parties involved.
https://www.cfr.org/article/what-trumps-trade-war-would-mean-nine-charts

I've always been pro-American manufacturing--although, that sentiment has weakened as I'm annoyed people my age made zero effort to prepare for the world they were told was coming and then try to make it my problem--and on-shoring could re-define the economy. I'm not sure it will be better, it will just be different. It will adjust who are the winners, who are the losers, and who lives in polluted cancer allies. This will likely mean people will have to pay more for less stuff. Americans doing more with less, is not something Trump's Dixie Cup/Me generation understands, but is excited to force upon all of us.
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The idea that this will go through with zero pain to Americans is stupid. Considering Musk and Trump have boners for the guy who lowered inflation at the cost of increasing poverty in Argentina, they don't give a shit about immediate costs to Americans. More expensive housing, loss of automotive jobs, and so on aren't their concern. Returning to a moment when America was rebuilding shattered Europe, is the goal. Despite the fact, Europe doesn't need our goods, they need us to consume. And, Trump's tariffs last time around didn't increase jobs overall. They increased in one sector, but had a greater decrease in other sectors. This is a net loss.
https://econofact.org/factbrief/did-the-trump-tariffs-increase-us-manufacturing-jobs

And, yea, you can make an argument that it is better to pay higher prices to have more manufacturing in America. Australia did this until consumers wanted color TVs. They paid double for electronics for the sake of keeping manufacturing jobs in Australia. Was that better or worse? Depends. How much do Americans want to sacrifice for other Americans? Also, we need to remember technology has improved dramatically since the 1970s, it takes far fewer workers to produce much more. And, do we have the people to fill the on-shore jobs? America's drug problems doesn't make it easy to recruit nor are all manufacturing jobs high paying "low skill" jobs.

Finally, "This could be great. It is a negotiation tactic." Yea, there is nothing like alienating all of our allies and making us an unreliable trade partner. Brilliant. Mexico, Canada, and others can't turn on a dime and adjust their economies as they've spent decades integrating into ours, but they can certainly develop ties with other nations and look away from the "isolationist" and belligerent USA. They can tell us to go fuck ourselves next time we ask to imprison a Chinese executive, to increase tariffs on China, or re-write their laws for our benefit. China went to Colombia the day after Trump's nonsense against them and said, "We love you and we won't do this to do you." And other nations have been saying, "Please remove your military bases from our land. We're done with your bullshit" for many years.   
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3296517/chinese-envoy-colombia-promotes-bilateral-ties-bogota-clashes-washington
https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2024/06/chinas-overseas-bases-arent-big-threatyet-rand/397310/


I wasn't a fan of off-shoring and I wasn't thrilled when Dwindle went to China and JT went to Mexico for manufacturing, but there is a difference between allowing prices to rise over time and forcing sharp increases down American business' and consumers' throats. And, to think increasing the costs of timber, oil, car parts, etc. overnight won't affect other American's jobs or fucking over our closest ally won't matter is beyond dumb.   






In that time a 55¢ candy bar now costs $3.79.

@Rosstradahmus lol, shut up.
Snickers are 3 for 3$ at Walgreens and 1.29 at Walmart.
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In that time a 55¢ candy bar now costs $3.79.

@Rosstradahmus lol, shut up.
Snickers are 3 for 3$ at Walgreens and 1.29 at Walmart.
https://www.walgreens.com/store/c/snickers-chocolate-candy-bars/ID=prod6162902-product?gQT=1
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Snickers-Full-Size-Candy-Chocolate-Bar-1-86-oz-Bar/14189114667?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=101313041&gQT=1

At a Maverick, 7-11, Circle K, Valero, any gas station in Colorado. I don't care if you found some special deals from mega stores online. Way to miss the point dipshit.

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« Reply #114 on: February 01, 2025, 02:35:17 PM »
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Do not see these tariffs being applied to Canada. Imports from Canada are cheap, reliable and the infrastructure-logistics have been in place for decades. The skate industry will unintentionally benefit, from some multinational corporation stepping in and being like wtf, stop this madness.
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Are you not reading the news? They’re placing a 25% Tariff on Mexico and Canada with 10% to China. This will fuck the skate industry so bad if it goes down.
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No doubt tariffs have the potential to fuck things up. But they also make room for bartering.


Also though the skate industry isn't going to see much of an effect. We did this shit with Trump already when his shit response to covid caused lumber prices and inflation to skyrocket and stay there practically. The industry did not die. Largery in part cause folks stopped bitching about 70 dollar decks almost immediately. The problem with skateboarding is the consumer. Regardless of what they charge for this bullshit they will buy it and continue to do so. If decks go to 80/90 bucks people still gonna buy em. They could do that now no tariffs and people would still buy em.

I'm not saying that tariffs don't have the potential to fuck up life for us temporarily but in all the media doom posting they don't mention that they could also benefit of it us.

There's always this focus on the American economy and American industries with this shit. But the idea that Mexico or Canada is gonna find a trade partner as large as America overnight is odd to me. These exports to American are ingrained in their own economies. One of mexicos biggest export is automobiles and heavy equipment that for the most part are made entirely in accordance to regulations in America. You can't just ship those cars and machines elsewhere without completely reforming and retooling your manufacturing industry. This gives America leverage.

If the Canadian lumber relies heavily on America. Specifically the building of houses out of wood. Something alot of European and even central American countries don't do. They use concrete and bricks and other building materials primarily. Again there is leverage in our favor there. Canandian Automobiles factories the same.

It's not as simple as the media makes it out to be. Regardless of where you fall on the political aisle. Trump is crazy and no doubt fucking things up. But you can't fall into the doom inducing shit just yet. Its to nuanced and complicated an issue.

On one hand you have a guy who just says shit to say it. But like on the other you a have media that refuse to tell you that these tariffs could just as quickly help the economy and existing trade deals in multiple ways. Be it by bartering current agreements with these countries. Or by putting more reliance into industry and commodities domestically.

Idk not a trump guy and am scared regardless but it's just not as simple as you'd think or at least what most media is leading you onto beleive.

In Canada, we already pay 80/90usd for boards. Baker and FA decks are legit $98usd. If the prices go up even more, skaters who don't make a ton of money are gonna feel it. Especially in cities like Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal, etc. where the cost of living has been insane for a long time.

On the other hand, a low Canadian dollar (exchange rate already dropping) actually incentivizes US companies to do business in Canada because the US dollar goes further here. Maybe that will help us, idk I'm not an economist.

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Re: TARIFFS AND THE SKATE INDUSTRY
« Reply #115 on: February 01, 2025, 03:04:05 PM »

At a Maverick, 7-11, Circle K, Valero, any gas station in Colorado. I don't care if you found some special deals from mega stores online. Way to miss the point dipshit.

You made your point quite clearly: You are unreliable source of information, you are irresponsible with money, and you make disingenuous arguments.

I don't want to get sucked into this as I'm sure you'll move the goal post, so I'm going to click ignore on your profile, use evidence to show you are off base again, and move on.

Let's start with the first place I think of when I think of Colorado, King Soopers. I know it isn't a gas station, where you will pay the absolute highest price for stuff like this, but it is a grocery store, you know, where most people purchase their food  ::):
$1.59 for a Snickers
https://www.kingsoopers.com/p/snickers-football-milk-chocolate-candy-bar-full-size-bar/0004000042431

Mavericks, Colorado via DoorDash
$2.59 for a Snickers
https://www.doordash.com/store/maverik---adventure%E2%80%99s-first-stop-clifton-2308084/?dd_device_id=dx_0247ee3c4f5b47a1bb00bdf17077bfb0

Valero, Colorado via DoorDash
$1.99 Snickers via DoorDash
https://www.doordash.com/store/maverik---adventure%E2%80%99s-first-stop-clifton-2308084/?dd_device_id=dx_0247ee3c4f5b47a1bb00bdf17077bfb0

7-11 Delivery Colorado
$3.29 King size Snickers
King size Snickers is nearly double regular size, so this means you are paying roughly $1.70 per regular amount of Snickers
https://www.7now.com/search-results/snickers-king-size-3.29oz

I'm sure you'll figure out a way to claim a $1.59, $1.99, $2.59, $3.29 (for a King size bar) are equal to  $3.79, but you'll still be wrong and since you are on ignore, I won't have to suffer through your mental gymnastics.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2025, 03:14:20 PM by TheLurper »

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Re: TARIFFS AND THE SKATE INDUSTRY
« Reply #116 on: February 01, 2025, 03:14:12 PM »
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Do not see these tariffs being applied to Canada. Imports from Canada are cheap, reliable and the infrastructure-logistics have been in place for decades. The skate industry will unintentionally benefit, from some multinational corporation stepping in and being like wtf, stop this madness.
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Are you not reading the news? They’re placing a 25% Tariff on Mexico and Canada with 10% to China. This will fuck the skate industry so bad if it goes down.

Dude I was so fucking wrong. I thought these tariffs would be an empty threat, I stand corrected. I am in complete shock.

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Re: TARIFFS AND THE SKATE INDUSTRY
« Reply #117 on: February 01, 2025, 04:59:18 PM »
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At a Maverick, 7-11, Circle K, Valero, any gas station in Colorado. I don't care if you found some special deals from mega stores online. Way to miss the point dipshit.
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You made your point quite clearly: You are unreliable source of information, you are irresponsible with money, and you make disingenuous arguments.

I don't want to get sucked into this as I'm sure you'll move the goal post, so I'm going to click ignore on your profile, use evidence to show you are off base again, and move on.

Let's start with the first place I think of when I think of Colorado, King Soopers. I know it isn't a gas station, where you will pay the absolute highest price for stuff like this, but it is a grocery store, you know, where most people purchase their food  ::):
$1.59 for a Snickers
https://www.kingsoopers.com/p/snickers-football-milk-chocolate-candy-bar-full-size-bar/0004000042431

Mavericks, Colorado via DoorDash
$2.59 for a Snickers
https://www.doordash.com/store/maverik---adventure%E2%80%99s-first-stop-clifton-2308084/?dd_device_id=dx_0247ee3c4f5b47a1bb00bdf17077bfb0

Valero, Colorado via DoorDash
$1.99 Snickers via DoorDash
https://www.doordash.com/store/maverik---adventure%E2%80%99s-first-stop-clifton-2308084/?dd_device_id=dx_0247ee3c4f5b47a1bb00bdf17077bfb0

7-11 Delivery Colorado
$3.29 King size Snickers
King size Snickers is nearly double regular size, so this means you are paying roughly $1.70 per regular amount of Snickers
https://www.7now.com/search-results/snickers-king-size-3.29oz

I'm sure you'll figure out a way to claim a $1.59, $1.99, $2.59, $3.29 (for a King size bar) are equal to  $3.79, but you'll still be wrong and since you are on ignore, I won't have to suffer through your mental gymnastics.

You are the only one putting yourself through "mental gymnastics". I used to skate to the corner store and get a King Sized candy bar for 55¢. The point is everything else has doubled in price but skateboards. You are a level of douche that I can't even imagine how much the people you know dread your annoying presence.

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Re: TARIFFS AND THE SKATE INDUSTRY
« Reply #118 on: February 01, 2025, 08:23:23 PM »
"lol, what I meant was king sized bars, not regular bars. Glad no one saw my goal post moving on the horizon. None of my statements are predictable. I meant king sized bars were 50 cents in 1997, which is likely to incorrect as well. "

I really don't understand why being honest is so difficult for you. I really don't understand the point of making shit up. I get that your original post was simply to sound like a tough guy and dismiss the concerns of anyone who might not want to see their disposable income shrink. I get that you want to argue that our government won't listen to our concerns, because maybe you agree with the tariffs (I'm not sure), but I don't really get why you picked such stupid examples and then lied about them. Did you think we'd be blinded by nostalgia?   

You are likely incorrect about king size candy bars costing 50 cents in 1997 (especially at an overpriced convenience store) and you were proven wrong that if we pick any gas station in Colorado, we will see them being sold for $3.79 today.

You also likely lying about the cost of gas. If you were born in 1989, this means you probably started driving in 2005. The lowest avg daily price for regular gasoline in 2005 in Colorado was $1.75 and the highest avg price was $3.04.
The average price today is $2.88/$2.95. Roughly 2 decades later, you are paying less than you did in in Sept of 2005.

Fuck, the lowest avg price of regular gas in Colorado since you turned 16, was $1.49 during the Great Recession. Unless you started driving at age 12, you are very likely lying. I don't see any state in the US that had an avg monthly cost for regular gas anywhere near $1.09 in 2005. Why? What was the fucking point? Why make shit up? Why lie about things we can look up? If you want to have a real discussion cool, if you want to be disingenuous and make shit up, there is no point.


https://data.thespectrum.com/gas-price/colorado/SCO/2008-02-04/
https://gasprices.aaa.com/?state=CO
https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/ohim/mmfr/sep05/rpmfuel.htm
« Last Edit: February 01, 2025, 08:48:00 PM by TheLurper »

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"That guy is double parked."
"Who cares? There are people starving to death! Besides, how does that affect you? Does it lessen the joy of parking?

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Re: TARIFFS AND THE SKATE INDUSTRY
« Reply #119 on: February 01, 2025, 08:43:32 PM »
Goddamn! I love when Lurp gets all LPQ w/ the facts: shit gets spicy & I can’t lie… I looove the flavor.

I wanna play you in a game of SKATE for the right to continue talking shit on me… You think you got me?