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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #21210 on: November 13, 2019, 01:30:10 PM »
125! where you at, libya?
So cal desert. To be fair it goes to 120. 125 is a record from like a hundred years ago. We got 121 this year though. I remember back in the you couldn’t forget a rented movie in the car or they would melt. Also I don’t use hot water in summer I just turn on the cold because the ground is too hot anyways.

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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #21211 on: November 13, 2019, 01:54:48 PM »
Me and this co-worker chick have been flirting around a lot at work these past couple weeks. We will spend most of our shift just bullshittin and cracking jokes. Just yesterday we got to talking about drugs and she mentioned that whenever she does molly her pupils get all big and she looks like a demon and she looks all evil. I responded with "that's cool, you probably look rad as Hell, I dig evil shit". Kind of half joking but half serious. She resonds with "what do you mean?" I responded "I dunno, I just dig evil shit. Like demons, witchcraft, the occult, all that kind of stuff has always fascinated me" Which is true, I've always found that sort of stuff facinating, but it's not like I practice it ya know? I've always just found it fascinating to look up and read up on. She got weirded out and suddenly her tone and overall demeanor changed. Found out later from someone else that she's kinda religious, not like bible thumping religious but still religious nonetheless, and that "evil" things like demons and stuff kind of freak her out. Which is weird because we were talking about gnarly scary movies and stuff and she's into these weird metal bands so I wasn't expecting that reaction from her. Needless to say I'm pretty sure I blew it with her.

Moral of the story? Don't tell chicks you're into evil shit? I guess? Religious people are strange to me though, but man was she hot and we had such a good back n forth too with joking around and talking. I'm still bummed. My friend was saying "dude, you should've not even brought that up at all, that's some stuff she would've been better off not knowing" but then I thought "well that's just some stuff I'm into; just like anything I'm into if it gets brought up I'm not gonna just pretend I'm not into it just to appease to someone ya know? she probably would've found out eventually anyways some other way, and her reaction would've been the same regardless; so it doesn't really make too much of a difference; better she finds out earlier than later what I'm into n stuff". Or maybe I'm just telling myself that; who knows.
Ahhh the old hypocrisy of Christians.

You’ve got something unspoken that you’re into and you guy’s are going back and forth, then she hits you with her moral disposition when you’re into demonology and occultism?

What if you’re not into molly specifically and weren’t exactly hyped on drugs?

Not that it should change the tone of you guy’s banter.

Just it seems like she’s got some unrealistic morally superior ideas that she’s quite deluded on.

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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #21212 on: November 13, 2019, 05:33:22 PM »
Girl from the date has ghosted me
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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #21213 on: November 13, 2019, 05:48:54 PM »
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Not really stoked on my social life, I'd prefer to be alone mainly so I can work by myself, just do a lot by myself to be honest. Feels like the friends I have only hit me up when they need something which honestly sucks, but to turn this around I am going to start doing my own thing and focusing on myself,
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Dude you are not alone in this.

As we get older people we pal around with and friends just fade away.

It’s honestly exhausting keeping up with most people, I’ve been seeing it as enjoy it for the time being.
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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #21214 on: November 13, 2019, 08:01:56 PM »
Yea as much as I cry about winter I am one of those “I need seasons” people. Forever summer temperatures is weird to me.

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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #21215 on: November 13, 2019, 08:23:22 PM »

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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #21216 on: November 13, 2019, 11:16:24 PM »
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the crazy ass bushfires going on in Australia right now and the heat in sydney is insane
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It’s so strange to see how fucked the upper/middle end of the country is and then me bitching about how cold and rainy it is in Melbourne
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A few times ive looked at the weather app Pornhub and accidentally swipe right to the melbourne weather and my wet noodle too hard, and am so confused when i see cloudy rain and cold haha splotches of dribble on my keyboard.
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Well Doc, with you displaying the brain power of a doctorate earned from a Cracker Jack Box, I would imagine you find ALOT of things confusing.  So, really no surprise here.  BTW, fixed.


definitley not stoked on this guys failing attempts to be funny/clever


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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #21217 on: November 14, 2019, 12:56:50 AM »
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the crazy ass bushfires going on in Australia right now and the heat in sydney is insane
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It’s so strange to see how fucked the upper/middle end of the country is and then me bitching about how cold and rainy it is in Melbourne
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A few times ive looked at the weather app Pornhub and accidentally swipe right to the melbourne weather and my wet noodle too hard, and am so confused when i see cloudy rain and cold haha splotches of dribble on my keyboard.
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Well Doc, with you displaying the brain power of a doctorate earned from a Cracker Jack Box, I would imagine you find ALOT of things confusing.  So, really no surprise here.  BTW, fixed.
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definitley not stoked on this guys failing attempts to be effortless ability to dominate me, in EVERY. SINGLE. exchange.  He reveals the SIMPLETON that I am, and abuses my Mother's anus, so of course, I don't find him funny/clever.

Yeah, cause you repeating "your a fucken dork" and "fixed" is just so damn funny and clever, right?  I would ask you to google the word "irony" Doc, but I know you're not a big "reading" guy and couldn't comprehend it's meaning anyways. 
Just know that it is completely lost on you.


Doc, the bottom line is, you LOVE me and you KNOW it.  You are tickled "pink" to be the "butt" of all my jokes.  It's just so funny to me, the way you continually try to antagonize someone THIS intellectually superior to you.  WHY do you keep doing this to yourself?  I'm guessing you also have cut marks across your wrists, right?

This isn't even fun for me anymore.  It's like I've got you in full mount, and I'm bitch-slapping you with your own hands at this point and I'm starting to feel abusive. I'll abuse your Mom's sweetly spread ass all day long.  But slapping around her dimwitted fuckboi bastard son, isn't my "thing".

 I had hoped you would come alive and give me a real challenge at some point, but I suppose that would be like asking your Kid's Little League team to challenge the NY Yankees.  Once again, I must apologize for OVERestimating you.  I need to stop giving you the benefit of the doubt.  There is no doubt.  You REALLY are much duller than I thought.

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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #21218 on: November 14, 2019, 05:35:31 AM »
This friend of my boyfriends, this guy is a real pos, I don't like him. He supposedly "punched a guy for making fun of my boyfriend". Like OK dude we get it you want in the pants of my boyfriend but damn you don't have to be so sweaty about it. Honestly worse comes to worse the fucker can have him. I really don't have time this shit.

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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #21219 on: November 14, 2019, 06:38:42 AM »
Cleared all the fallen leaves from my small slappy curb so it'd dry, then a lorry has parked there overnight and spewed oil all over the place.
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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #21220 on: November 14, 2019, 06:53:26 AM »
Cleared all the fallen leaves from my small slappy curb so it'd dry, then a lorry has parked there overnight and spewed oil all over the place.

Ouch. Sorry to hear that, how do you even clean oil spills? Do you throw sand or any powdery substance to soak it up?
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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #21221 on: November 14, 2019, 08:17:07 AM »
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Cleared all the fallen leaves from my small slappy curb so it'd dry, then a lorry has parked there overnight and spewed oil all over the place.
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Ouch. Sorry to hear that, how do you even clean oil spills? Do you throw sand or any powdery substance to soak it up?

There is always another curb. I don't mind carrying a brush but I'm not slogging detergent and a mop around.
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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #21222 on: November 14, 2019, 10:23:35 AM »
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Me and this co-worker chick have been flirting around a lot at work these past couple weeks. We will spend most of our shift just bullshittin and cracking jokes. Just yesterday we got to talking about drugs and she mentioned that whenever she does molly her pupils get all big and she looks like a demon and she looks all evil. I responded with "that's cool, you probably look rad as Hell, I dig evil shit". Kind of half joking but half serious. She resonds with "what do you mean?" I responded "I dunno, I just dig evil shit. Like demons, witchcraft, the occult, all that kind of stuff has always fascinated me" Which is true, I've always found that sort of stuff facinating, but it's not like I practice it ya know? I've always just found it fascinating to look up and read up on. She got weirded out and suddenly her tone and overall demeanor changed. Found out later from someone else that she's kinda religious, not like bible thumping religious but still religious nonetheless, and that "evil" things like demons and stuff kind of freak her out. Which is weird because we were talking about gnarly scary movies and stuff and she's into these weird metal bands so I wasn't expecting that reaction from her. Needless to say I'm pretty sure I blew it with her.

Moral of the story? Don't tell chicks you're into evil shit? I guess? Religious people are strange to me though, but man was she hot and we had such a good back n forth too with joking around and talking. I'm still bummed. My friend was saying "dude, you should've not even brought that up at all, that's some stuff she would've been better off not knowing" but then I thought "well that's just some stuff I'm into; just like anything I'm into if it gets brought up I'm not gonna just pretend I'm not into it just to appease to someone ya know? she probably would've found out eventually anyways some other way, and her reaction would've been the same regardless; so it doesn't really make too much of a difference; better she finds out earlier than later what I'm into n stuff". Or maybe I'm just telling myself that; who knows.
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Ahhh the old hypocrisy of Christians.

You’ve got something unspoken that you’re into and you guy’s are going back and forth, then she hits you with her moral disposition when you’re into demonology and occultism?

What if you’re not into molly specifically and weren’t exactly hyped on drugs?

Not that it should change the tone of you guy’s banter.

Just it seems like she’s got some unrealistic morally superior ideas that she’s quite deluded on.
Yeah some people are so quick to write other people off when you're into one thing that they don't like. I never got that. For the most part as long as you're not a complete douche and you're not some sort of racist Nazi, you don't abuse children or women, you're not some sort of sexual assaulter, and you're not just some sort of overall hateful person then I'm pretty quick to just shrug most shit off for people as long as they're nice and cool people. You worship Satan? You're a juggalo? You're into gnarly drugs? You're some sort of jock-o football obsessed or weightlifting obsessed meat-head? Don't matter to me; as long as we vibe and you're nice then you're ok I'm my book until you prove otherwise.

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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #21223 on: November 14, 2019, 03:49:49 PM »
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Me and this co-worker chick have been flirting around a lot at work these past couple weeks. We will spend most of our shift just bullshittin and cracking jokes. Just yesterday we got to talking about drugs and she mentioned that whenever she does molly her pupils get all big and she looks like a demon and she looks all evil. I responded with "that's cool, you probably look rad as Hell, I dig evil shit". Kind of half joking but half serious. She resonds with "what do you mean?" I responded "I dunno, I just dig evil shit. Like demons, witchcraft, the occult, all that kind of stuff has always fascinated me" Which is true, I've always found that sort of stuff facinating, but it's not like I practice it ya know? I've always just found it fascinating to look up and read up on. She got weirded out and suddenly her tone and overall demeanor changed. Found out later from someone else that she's kinda religious, not like bible thumping religious but still religious nonetheless, and that "evil" things like demons and stuff kind of freak her out. Which is weird because we were talking about gnarly scary movies and stuff and she's into these weird metal bands so I wasn't expecting that reaction from her. Needless to say I'm pretty sure I blew it with her.

Moral of the story? Don't tell chicks you're into evil shit? I guess? Religious people are strange to me though, but man was she hot and we had such a good back n forth too with joking around and talking. I'm still bummed. My friend was saying "dude, you should've not even brought that up at all, that's some stuff she would've been better off not knowing" but then I thought "well that's just some stuff I'm into; just like anything I'm into if it gets brought up I'm not gonna just pretend I'm not into it just to appease to someone ya know? she probably would've found out eventually anyways some other way, and her reaction would've been the same regardless; so it doesn't really make too much of a difference; better she finds out earlier than later what I'm into n stuff". Or maybe I'm just telling myself that; who knows.
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Ahhh the old hypocrisy of Christians.

You’ve got something unspoken that you’re into and you guy’s are going back and forth, then she hits you with her moral disposition when you’re into demonology and occultism?

What if you’re not into molly specifically and weren’t exactly hyped on drugs?

Not that it should change the tone of you guy’s banter.

Just it seems like she’s got some unrealistic morally superior ideas that she’s quite deluded on.
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Yeah some people are so quick to write other people off when you're into one thing that they don't like. I never got that. For the most part as long as you're not a complete douche and you're not some sort of racist Nazi, you don't abuse children or women, you're not some sort of sexual assaulter, and you're not just some sort of overall hateful person then I'm pretty quick to just shrug most shit off for people as long as they're nice and cool people. You worship Satan? You're a juggalo? You're into gnarly drugs? You're some sort of jock-o football obsessed or weightlifting obsessed meat-head? Don't matter to me; as long as we vibe and you're nice then you're ok I'm my book until you prove otherwise.
I’ve been there where I’ve ghosted someone because we didn’t mesh well together and I know it’s lame.

The only excuses I’ve got when ditching somebody is if they suck as a person.

I try to give people the benefit of the doubt but in most cases you give em an inch they take a mile. (With whatever contrived bs lie or story)

I don’t usually do well with big circles of people but small cell’s of 2 to 3 people I’m not so awkward.

It’s weird how much someone will take one instance and build a entire summary out of your interests.

Now you might say that’s awfully smug and you don’t know about most people.

Well when engaging other’s company and I suss someone out, I’ve got a good read on shifty people as I use to have shitty friends, you can’t bullshit a good bullshitter.




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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #21224 on: November 14, 2019, 04:12:51 PM »
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Cleared all the fallen leaves from my small slappy curb so it'd dry, then a lorry has parked there overnight and spewed oil all over the place.
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Ouch. Sorry to hear that, how do you even clean oil spills? Do you throw sand or any powdery substance to soak it up?
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There is always another curb. I don't mind carrying a brush but I'm not slogging detergent and a mop around.
Try some cheap sand cat litter. One time my car spewed oil all over the floor of our new house. Like all over. I dumped kitty litter on and let it dry. Took a little work but helped a lot. Or yeah, another curb.

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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #21225 on: November 14, 2019, 06:08:37 PM »
Broke my board last week and now I’m empty. Got pulled over for my registration being expired bc I was too broke to renew :( shit my account was a couple hundo negative.

Best remedy for the struggle is to hustle so I hope things look up

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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #21226 on: November 14, 2019, 06:20:37 PM »
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Cleared all the fallen leaves from my small slappy curb so it'd dry, then a lorry has parked there overnight and spewed oil all over the place.
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Ouch. Sorry to hear that, how do you even clean oil spills? Do you throw sand or any powdery substance to soak it up?
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There is always another curb. I don't mind carrying a brush but I'm not slogging detergent and a mop around.
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Try some cheap sand cat litter. One time my car spewed oil all over the floor of our new house. Like all over. I dumped kitty litter on and let it dry. Took a little work but helped a lot. Or yeah, another curb.

Co-signed on the kitty litter.  Definitely try that.  I've seen it work wonders on skate spots.
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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #21227 on: November 15, 2019, 06:18:06 AM »
My life or should I say my fucking mind. I have a lot of great things going on and a bunch of opportunities that I need/ want to act on to reach my goals. I have no right to be bummed but fuck man, I'm so goddamned lost. Maybe because I have no one to open up to so everything from birth till now is just bottled up ready to explode like a nuclear warhead. Actually, I probably do have friends/ family that would listen but I feel like I can't because this is how I've been my entire life. It would just be so out of character.

Even typing this out feels foreign to me. I guess the point of me posting this is like slowly releasing a little carbonation from a shaken up soda bottle before it explodes. Sorry to be a bummer on this fine Friday but I just don't know.

You just need to be like George and now do the opposite of what you have been doing . Bottling up hasn’t worked has it ? So now it’s time to let it out . Go talk to those people .

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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #21228 on: November 15, 2019, 09:59:16 AM »
Mom is in surgery rn.
I not trying to talk to anyone about it. I'm just trying to stay positive.

I play music to cope and send positive shit her way.

I can talk about it here on slap. I don't want to see people rn
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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #21229 on: November 15, 2019, 12:22:42 PM »
Life is a pissing contest and I have no interest in competing with the masses of these fucking idiots.

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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #21230 on: November 15, 2019, 12:29:31 PM »
Are you a welder born in April with a dirty mouth and an extreme allergy towards stupid people?

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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #21231 on: November 15, 2019, 01:05:47 PM »
At the pharmacy I gave the kid a mint. Had to Heimlich Maneuver like 3 seconds later.

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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #21232 on: November 15, 2019, 07:08:00 PM »
My life or should I say my fucking mind. I have a lot of great things going on and a bunch of opportunities that I need/ want to act on to reach my goals. I have no right to be bummed but fuck man, I'm so goddamned lost. Maybe because I have no one to open up to so everything from birth till now is just bottled up ready to explode like a nuclear warhead. Actually, I probably do have friends/ family that would listen but I feel like I can't because this is how I've been my entire life. It would just be so out of character.

Even typing this out feels foreign to me. I guess the point of me posting this is like slowly releasing a little carbonation from a shaken up soda bottle before it explodes. Sorry to be a bummer on this fine Friday but I just don't know.

I say push the boundaries and act out of character if there's a chance it'll help in the long run.

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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #21233 on: November 16, 2019, 01:51:15 AM »
Half of my keys fell off my 15 year old carabiner. I didn't notice when it happened. I'm hoping they're in the car somewhere but I doubt it. Key to my other car was lost, one of those stupid smart key fobs. It's a lot to replace. Half hour late to work because I was retracing my steps.

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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #21234 on: November 16, 2019, 03:02:20 AM »
My life or should I say my fucking mind. I have a lot of great things going on and a bunch of opportunities that I need/ want to act on to reach my goals. I have no right to be bummed but fuck man, I'm so goddamned lost. Maybe because I have no one to open up to so everything from birth till now is just bottled up ready to explode like a nuclear warhead. Actually, I probably do have friends/ family that would listen but I feel like I can't because this is how I've been my entire life. It would just be so out of character.

Even typing this out feels foreign to me. I guess the point of me posting this is like slowly releasing a little carbonation from a shaken up soda bottle before it explodes. Sorry to be a bummer on this fine Friday but I just don't know.

"A journey of 1000 miles begins with a single step".

 I commend you on taking this one and reaching out. I know it's not easy.  Also not easy to reach out to family after years of semi-isolation.  Sounds like you are honest with yourself about the problems, but could use some fresh perspective.

Whenever life's getting hectic, the EASIEST way to get my attitude adjusted, is I take time to reflect and take inventory on my life.  When you wake up, first thing, start saying aloud a list of ALL the things that you are grateful for.  Starting with being alive, well, and having a new day to be filled with new challenges and opportunities.

 Big things, small things, people, pets, job, everything.  As you say each thing, take a few seconds to reflect on each in a little more detail and smile and FEEL the joy each brings.  This creates the "attitude of gratitude" and by the Law Of Attraction, poises you to attract more positivity and things to be grateful for. 

I'm not making light of this when I say that I'm reading it as a cry for help.  I've seen too many good dudes, severely blow it and fucked their life over losing control in a fit of rage, from bottled aggression.  Way too many.  Prisons are filled with them.  One of my BEST childhood friends is one of them.

Just know that you have at least one SLAP homie that cares enough to listen and take seriously, whatever you want to share in confidence.  Feel free to PM me. 

And I agree with Wasted Hippy about pushing boundaries and out of your comfort zone, which you've taken an important first step with your post. 

Maybe take a baby step toward family tomorrow.  Who SHOULD you be in better communication with, but have procrastinated in calling?

I did this and it has been amazing in rebuilding my connections to family.  Start with a text.

"Hey, just want you to know, I'm thinking about ya", would love to hear your voice sometime soon.

I found it to be just enough of an Ice Breaker to make the first call that much easier to make.  It's a snowball effect.  After the first call, it becomes easier and easier to keep in touch.

Feel free to reach out, homie, seriously, I got you.  Otherwise, best of luck and I hope today brings more optimism your way.

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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #21235 on: November 16, 2019, 05:54:39 AM »
I lost my son on Halloween 2011 my dad died the 15th of Nov 2015 and my birthday is the 18th.  I am 42 and I feel as though each year it gets even more miserable.

I don't know how to shake this funk in my head anyone have an idea? No I don't like getting faded I am kinda just a boring nerd into skating biking shit.

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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #21236 on: November 16, 2019, 12:27:29 PM »
I lost my son on Halloween 2011 my dad died the 15th of Nov 2015 and my birthday is the 18th.  I am 42 and I feel as though each year it gets even more miserable.

I don't know how to shake this funk in my head anyone have an idea? No I don't like getting faded I am kinda just a boring nerd into skating biking shit.

That's really rough, I'm sorry. I don't have any surefire ideas - maybe a mode of self-expression like painting. I paint when I'm depressed. Maybe talk to some friends or relatives and tell them you care about them.

Or - I haven't tried this, just learned about it - a dopamine fast. That's where you deprive your body of any sensation to try and appreciate things like music and good food more.

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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #21237 on: November 16, 2019, 04:54:06 PM »
I lost my son on Halloween 2011 my dad died the 15th of Nov 2015 and my birthday is the 18th.  I am 42 and I feel as though each year it gets even more miserable.

I don't know how to shake this funk in my head anyone have an idea? No I don't like getting faded I am kinda just a boring nerd into skating biking shit.
There's nothing to say to this. I'm so sorry. If god was real I'd kick his ass.
Before you say the music sucked, have you considered shutting the fuck up?

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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #21238 on: November 16, 2019, 05:14:23 PM »
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I lost my son on Halloween 2011 my dad died the 15th of Nov 2015 and my birthday is the 18th.  I am 42 and I feel as though each year it gets even more miserable.

I don't know how to shake this funk in my head anyone have an idea? No I don't like getting faded I am kinda just a boring nerd into skating biking shit.
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That's really rough, I'm sorry. I don't have any surefire ideas - maybe a mode of self-expression like painting. I paint when I'm depressed. Maybe talk to some friends or relatives and tell them you care about them.

Or - I haven't tried this, just learned about it - a dopamine fast. That's where you deprive your body of any sensation to try and appreciate things like music and good food more.
Thank you for your help, I find the dopamine fast is a good way to exasperate my mantra for maintaining sobriety.

I have to always be doing something when I’m not working. Keeps my mind occupied if I’m too idle I can get really bored and boredom becomes something worse.


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Re: Things You Are Not Stoked On
« Reply #21239 on: November 16, 2019, 05:31:36 PM »
Kiss cancelled there final australian tour, bummed cause i was looking forward to it forever


We may not know what skateboarding is
But we sure as hell know what it aint
Wait we know what it is now too -
Falling down and gettin back up