The Slap Message Boards and the Trial of Jamie Thomas

[ohhhhtisbdriftwood]

We put Monster's on our completes because we get them for less factory direct so we can sell our completes for less.
They are decent (i rode them for years) and made in the US in case you're wondering.

keep trying.

ok, i will.

http://www.skatewarehouse.com/DKPreBuilt.HTML?Show=DKhttp://www.skatewarehouse.com/DKPreBuilt.HTML?Show=DK

your completes are more or as expensive as every other companies on here, so who's getting the money you save?

ah, the shops. of course, jamie.

[I SUCK!]

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We put Monster's on our completes because we get them for less factory direct so we can sell our completes for less.
They are decent (i rode them for years) and made in the US in case you're wondering.

keep trying.

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ok, i will.

http://www.skatewarehouse.com/DKPreBuilt.HTML?Show=DKhttp://www.skatewarehouse.com/DKPreBuilt.HTML?Show=DK

your completes are more or as expensive as every other companies on here, so whose getting the money you save?

ah, the shops. of course, jamie.

good attempt, but we don't dicate what they sell them for. and it could be because our boards are made in mex vs. some being made in China. Also, the amount of completes we sell is minuscal, so the money your'e implying we're banking on isn't shit.
 
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[ohhhhtisbdriftwood]

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We put Monster's on our completes because we get them for less factory direct so we can sell our completes for less.
They are decent (i rode them for years) and made in the US in case you're wondering.

keep trying.

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ok, i will.

http://www.skatewarehouse.com/DKPreBuilt.HTML?Show=DKhttp://www.skatewarehouse.com/DKPreBuilt.HTML?Show=DK

your completes are more or as expensive as every other companies on here, so whose getting the money you save?

ah, the shops. of course, jamie.

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good attempt, but we don't dicate what they sell them for. and it could be because our boards are made in mex vs. some being made in China. Also, the amount of completes we sell is minuscal, so the money your'e implying we're banking on isn't shit.
 
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no, let's stay on this one,

just to get it straight. you're saying the shops pay less for your completes than other brands?

i'm going to check tomorrow, or maybe one of the shop owners on here can tell us.

[Wizard Fuck]

Holy fuck kid......

[bothersome]

I generally don't order completes but I always check out pricing. Black box complete pricing is neither noticeable higher or lower than anyone else who is selling same quality component completes. They offer quantity discounts around the holidays and often have older stuff off price. IMO they are average priced.but you do tend to get a little more for your money. some compaies put the lowest quality of everything on completes.

[I SUCK!]

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We put Monster's on our completes because we get them for less factory direct so we can sell our completes for less.
They are decent (i rode them for years) and made in the US in case you're wondering.

keep trying.

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ok, i will.

http://www.skatewarehouse.com/DKPreBuilt.HTML?Show=DKhttp://www.skatewarehouse.com/DKPreBuilt.HTML?Show=DK

your completes are more or as expensive as every other companies on here, so whose getting the money you save?

ah, the shops. of course, jamie.

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good attempt, but we don't dicate what they sell them for. and it could be because our boards are made in mex vs. some being made in China. Also, the amount of completes we sell is minuscal, so the money your'e implying we're banking on isn't shit.
 
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no, let's stay on this one,

just to get it straight. you're saying the shops pay less for your completes than other brands?

i'm going to check tomorrow, or maybe one of the shop owners on here can tell us.

again, with the words in the mouth,
just quote what I say rather than making up some new shit.

"We put Monster's on our completes because we get them for less factory direct so we can sell our completes for less."
so the "Less" you're referring to is than if we were to use ventures, thunders and destructos.
"...and it could be because our boards are made in mex vs. some being made in China" this was to imply that other companies may be able to sell their completes for less than us.

becuase ventures, thunders and destructos cost us more than monster's, we haven't used them on completes other than for special occasions. We're about to start though, so we'll have to work out pricing.

[I SUCK!]

...considering how competitive the complete pricing game is, we'll probably have to offer them at the same price to shops as ones with monster's...and reduce the amount of the ones with Monster's.

[I SUCK!]

..."trial" is probably a better word than "debate."

[Ronald Wilson Reagan]

Isn't the whole point of completes that you get them for less, as in less than if you bought it all seperately? So comparing zero completes to other completes is pointless, since they are all selling them for cheaper.  Completes are shitty from most brands. The point is it is for a beginner who is just getting into it. Santa Cruz puts shitty ass bullet wheels and some random trucks like "mack trucks" or some shit on them. Nobody complains though because we all have the option of paying a little more money and getting the good shit. For people who can't, companies come up with cheap shit that they can ride. Its actually not really a bad thing in any way. If a company offers nothing to the market, it will go out of business, so him starting a shitty truck company is really only the stockholders' problem.This isn't that complicated.

[Commercial D]

We're gonna need financial statements and a declaration of net worth so we can all really get jealous of how much more wealthy is this redneck from Nowhere, AL who skates better than us all.

[Commercial D]

Relax, Chief. No need to play defense. Point is you're succeeding—keep it up. You right—haters just be jealous is all.

[sweets]

Jamie, you remember Trainwreck's first graphic? The Headless Horseman? That was 11 colors before heat transfers. That meant 11 passes on the screen printer and that shit was a bitch to get done. I thought the guy ripped but was such a douche. Then, this asshole wants 11 colors on his debut board? Now, Trainwreck is the dude guy that needs persecuting. All Jamie ever did was ok that graphic. Otherwise, what the fuck has he really done? Tell us the shady shit...

[Tedpod]

You like tattoos man?

its my job

[Perfection]

Oh really? I was thinking about getting a tattoo of some little horses with flowers on the top of my left hand.

You wouldn't be able to help me out with that, would you?

[Tedpod]

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We put Monster's on our completes because we get them for less factory direct so we can sell our completes for less.
They are decent (i rode them for years) and made in the US in case you're wondering.

keep trying.

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ok, i will.

http://www.skatewarehouse.com/DKPreBuilt.HTML?Show=DKhttp://www.skatewarehouse.com/DKPreBuilt.HTML?Show=DK

your completes are more or as expensive as every other companies on here, so whose getting the money you save?

ah, the shops. of course, jamie.

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good attempt, but we don't dicate what they sell them for. and it could be because our boards are made in mex vs. some being made in China. Also, the amount of completes we sell is minuscal, so the money your'e implying we're banking on isn't shit.
 
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no, let's stay on this one,

just to get it straight. you're saying the shops pay less for your completes than other brands?

i'm going to check tomorrow, or maybe one of the shop owners on here can tell us.

why the fuck do you care?..there isnt a price difference btwn any of the diferent brands that ive noticed...i think the last time i saw a difference was when slicks were around...other then that its pretty much all the same (i take that back blind has those new whatever boards that are 5 dollars more, and some mullen shit is aparently 100 bucks)

are you in poverty?...does your job restrict you from buying the zero boards that you really want?..basically WHATS YOUR FUCKING POINT..sounds like you hate skateboarding or want some sort of handout.....nothing is free...and your basically bitching because it isnt..

[Tedpod]

Oh really? I was thinking about getting a tattoo of some little horses with flowers on the top of my left hand.

You wouldn't be able to help me out with that, would you?

sure thats a good one

[Perfection]

I still don't understand why you were PM'ing me, but I take it that's a no?

[Tedpod]

oh ya know just trying to see how i could help you...

[Perfection]

I want it to look exactly like this:



Love,

Perfect Cock

[Tedpod]

wow cool you know who i am....is that supposed to matter ?...i have my hands tattooed...point??

[Perfection]

Just a simple "yes" or "no" will do.

[Tedpod]

i really dont know what your asking...

[NickDagger]

Perfect Cock can you please change your fucking Signiture?

And whoever has the girl fingering herself too, some of try and visit the forum during work you assholes.

[longballlarry]

you can just block signatures and avatars in your profile section.

[i used to skate]

Tell us the shady shit...

he made ryan smith crook an 18 stair handrail!  on his birthday! 

[NickDagger]

you can just block signatures and avatars in your profile section.

just remove the giant signature pics assholes, like most people's sig's I like, why should i have to block all sigs because a few people want to have a giant picture of shit or a girl fingering herself as their signature?

skating pictures or whatever is cool, but if you want something vulgar or NSFW to impress all your dumb buddies, just link to it

[brooklyn brawler]

I don't know where we are in this thread, but for some reason, I'm actually starting to question if there's a line not to be crossed in the porn industry.

Read the product description.

http://jerkoffzone.com/jmcatalog/series.php?sid=82


THEY CARRY GUNS!!!

[bobjohn]

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unanswered question; why did you start a truck company that made trucks that you must have known were unnecessary at best and total shit at worst?

Didn't know they were unnecessary at the time, must have been naive. realized it was a shotty attempt at best so I cut my losses and asked to ride for what I thought was the best program. that was 3 years ago, I have no interest in trying again and I'll ride for Thunder until I can't roll.

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are you saying you knowingly put shitty trucks on your completes?

is this you humbly contributing again?

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I never said they were shitty, I said I realized the brand wasn't necessary.
I like your attempts at putting words in my mouth, but everyone can see through it.

We put Monster's on our completes because we get them for less factory direct so we can sell our completes for less.
They are decent (i rode them for years) and made in the US in case you're wondering.

keep trying.

Maybe you should have them made in China (or Taiwan, where the labor costs little more but is still low) if you can translate the savings to the consumer. As long as the materials and geometries of the truck are ok, kids won't associate the brand with being inferior. You could also place a "Pay no more than..." sticker on assembled completes like Dischord does on records to keep the retailer from jacking up the price.

Otherwise, new (i.e. non-Ermico) truck companies should address some of the shortcomings of current trucks: shoddy craftmanship, bent axles, fragile baseplates, or designing an inverted kingpin that works. If they don't offer improvements and they're not cheaper, they shouldn't exist.

[bobjohn]

I translated Clyde's post. Just wasted 30 minutes I'll never get back. Feel free to make corrections:



Now, before proceeding further, I would like to address an important issue. Recently, I had written an editorial assignment for Transworld entitled “10 Reasons to Hate Ryan Sheckler.” While the literal meaning of this title may suggest that I concur with the general consensus, I implore you to thoroughly read this article before drawing such conclusions.

However, it seems that my colleague Jamie Thomas has formed a different opinion of Mr. Sheckler. From my understanding, Mr. Thomas believes Ryan Sheckler is/has been “ruining skateboarding” [source not confirmed]. Please excuse me while I attempt to refrain from laughter.

[I could not translate this next sentence] ”Young Money got yall out here, hatin talkin like Plies.! what da fokk, is this dude even talm'kin bout?!! now before i say this, i want everyone to know- Jamie and i go back like whyte bishes, with no ass.”

[continues] Mr. Thomas, I believe your character and demeanor to be pleasant. But I believe your position on this matter to be incorrect. With all due respect, if you can not see how your preference for handrails, drawn-out 50-50s, long hair, limited trick selection, and 4 minutes of the same pronounced 5 tricks have ruined the cultural significance of skateboarding, then perhaps you are humoring me. You may interpret my criticisms as subjective, rather, I am presenting the truth.

A child on television does not sway enough influence to “ruin” skateboarding. He does, on the other hand, wield the power to improve it. The older skateboarders who complain about the younger generation more specifically represent the source of skateboarding's destruction. A perfect analogy would be the west coast jazz treatment. Let me delve into further detail. If you have followed jazz's prominence, you would be know the musical talent of  the Western United States has been seemingly non-existent since Chet Baker's demise. The same older musicians have reigned the scene. And when new talent begins to gain patronage, the older ones show discontent.

[the remainder seems fairly intelligible]

“Thomas' attitude could stem from the same flack he was catching when he was blowing up on the scene, back in the mid-[']90's. so to "embrace" anything "new" could be quite foreign. but to act like YOU didn't notice the "change" you brought skateboarding(either positive, or negative), is like calling the kettle black. i just wanted to touch up on that..[.] i wish both these guys good luck moving forward, but Jamie- you [are] dead wrong for this one..[.] leave that kid be, and concentrate more on sending ya [sic] riders "trick lists", and what clothes to wear while doing said tricks. no "beef". just the truth like Sojourner [sic]..[.]”


Original blog:

"now.. before i get going any further. id like to address suhn'tin. recently, I'd dropped some editorial piFF titled, "10 Reasons to Hate Ryan Sheckler" in Transworld(while it may seem to be one thing, you might wanna read it before any of you clowns think im on "your side") well, it seems as if my man Jamie Thomas has a different taste towards ole Shecks.. from what i understand, Jamie thinks Ryan Sheckler is/has been "ruining skteboarding". hold on.. bwahahahahahahahahahhaahah! man. Young Money got yall out here, hatin talkin like Plies.! what da fokk, is this dude even talm'kin bout?!! now before i say this, i want everyone to know- Jamie and i go back like whyte bishes, with no ass. moving on. Jamie. I think you're a cool guy- but you waaaaaaaaaaaaay outta line here, fam. With all due respect, if you cant see how the "handrail/drawn out 50-50/long hair-minimal trick/4 minutes of the same, loud 5 tricks" phase RUINED skateboarding- YOU'D have to be kidding me. take it as you may, but thats the truth. a KID on tv, cant "ruin" skateboarding. actually- he could make it BETTER. its the older guys who complain about these younger cats, is whats REALLY ruining skateboarding. its basically- the whole "west coast hip-hop" treatment. and lemme explain that. if you follow hip-hop, you know theres been next to NO new talent coming out the west coast SINCE '96. same old dudes, hogging up the scene. and when someone new comes through- the older heads wanna "hate". NOW. im sure Mr. Thomas' attitude could stem from the same flack he was catching when he was blowing up on the scene, back in the mid-90's. so to "embrace" anything "new" could be quite foreign. but to act like YOU didn't notice the "change" you brought skateboarding(either positive, or negative), is like calling the kettle black. i just wanted to touch up on that.. i wish both these guys good luck moving forward, but Jamie- you dead wrong for this one.. leave that kid be, and concentrate more on sending ya riders "trick lists", and what clothes to wear while doing said tricks. no "beef". just the truth like Soljourner.."

[brooklyn brawler]

I dare you to add that person on Myspace, and watch him re-invent the wheel in your bulletin window.