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Re: skate indsutry bubble taking a poop soon. starting with ace trucks
« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2025, 05:15:18 PM »
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Marbie and Nora both still follow Krux.
I doubt Nora is double dipping on truck sponsors, although it would be super dope if she was, so my money is on Marbie.

pretty sure Nora had a welcome to Indy ad in a recent thrasher

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Re: skate indsutry bubble taking a poop soon. starting with ace trucks
« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2025, 05:19:25 PM »
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Five of these five pros have left their former truck sponsor but still have product available on that truck company's webstore

Kien Caples
Ryan Lay
Marbie
Adrianne Sloboh
Nora Vasconcellos
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Marbie and Nora both still follow Krux.
I doubt Nora is double dipping on truck sponsors, although it would be super dope if she was, so my money is on Marbie.
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pretty sure Nora had a welcome to Indy ad in a recent thrasher

Indy woulda made sense but she rides for thunder now.
https://www.thundertrucks.com/features/welcome-to-the-crew-nora/
…unless she somehow has 3 truck sponsors on the low

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Re: skate indsutry bubble taking a poop soon. starting with ace trucks
« Reply #32 on: February 20, 2025, 05:19:49 PM »
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Five of these five pros have left their former truck sponsor but still have product available on that truck company's webstore

Kien Caples
Ryan Lay
Marbie
Adrianne Sloboh
Nora Vasconcellos
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Marbie and Nora both still follow Krux.
I doubt Nora is double dipping on truck sponsors, although it would be super dope if she was, so my money is on Marbie.
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pretty sure Nora had a welcome to Indy ad in a recent thrasher
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Re: skate indsutry bubble taking a poop soon. starting with ace trucks
« Reply #33 on: February 20, 2025, 05:25:16 PM »
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Five of these five pros have left their former truck sponsor but still have product available on that truck company's webstore

Kien Caples
Ryan Lay
Marbie
Adrianne Sloboh
Nora Vasconcellos
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Marbie and Nora both still follow Krux.
I doubt Nora is double dipping on truck sponsors, although it would be super dope if she was, so my money is on Marbie.
[close]

pretty sure Nora had a welcome to Indy ad in a recent thrasher
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Indy woulda made sense but she rides for thunder now.
https://www.thundertrucks.com/features/welcome-to-the-crew-nora/
…unless she somehow has 3 truck sponsors on the low

ah ok i misremembered it as indy, maybe cause it seemed logical to just do a pivot onto the more financially viable NHS brand.

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Re: skate indsutry bubble taking a poop soon. starting with ace trucks
« Reply #34 on: February 20, 2025, 05:28:50 PM »
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Five of these five pros have left their former truck sponsor but still have product available on that truck company's webstore

Kien Caples
Ryan Lay
Marbie
Adrianne Sloboh
Nora Vasconcellos
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Marbie and Nora both still follow Krux.
I doubt Nora is double dipping on truck sponsors, although it would be super dope if she was, so my money is on Marbie.
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pretty sure Nora had a welcome to Indy ad in a recent thrasher
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Indy woulda made sense but she rides for thunder now.
https://www.thundertrucks.com/features/welcome-to-the-crew-nora/
…unless she somehow has 3 truck sponsors on the low
When she first was of Krux she had a little Krux hole sticker on some Indys

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Re: skate indsutry bubble taking a poop soon. starting with ace trucks
« Reply #35 on: February 20, 2025, 06:15:59 PM »
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Five of these five pros have left their former truck sponsor but still have product available on that truck company's webstore

Kien Caples
Ryan Lay
Marbie
Adrianne Sloboh
Nora Vasconcellos
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Marbie and Nora both still follow Krux.
I doubt Nora is double dipping on truck sponsors, although it would be super dope if she was, so my money is on Marbie.
[close]

pretty sure Nora had a welcome to Indy ad in a recent thrasher
[close]

Indy woulda made sense but she rides for thunder now.
https://www.thundertrucks.com/features/welcome-to-the-crew-nora/
…unless she somehow has 3 truck sponsors on the low

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Re: skate indsutry bubble taking a poop soon. starting with ace trucks
« Reply #36 on: February 21, 2025, 12:01:01 AM »
"indsutry"

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Re: skate indsutry bubble taking a poop soon. starting with ace trucks
« Reply #37 on: February 21, 2025, 05:37:58 AM »
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Kien Caples
Ryan Lay
Marbie
Adrianne Sloboh
Nora Vasconcellos
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Marbie and Nora both still follow Krux.
I doubt Nora is double dipping on truck sponsors, although it would be super dope if she was, so my money is on Marbie.
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pretty sure Nora had a welcome to Indy ad in a recent thrasher
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Re: skate indsutry bubble taking a poop soon. starting with ace trucks
« Reply #38 on: February 21, 2025, 08:27:23 AM »




Half their team?
They should kick off whoever made that team list who included Vinnie Bahn and not Corey Glick, who I've definitely seen print ace ads of and rides ace to this day (same with cyrus bennett).

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Re: skate indsutry bubble taking a poop soon. starting with ace trucks
« Reply #39 on: February 21, 2025, 09:24:35 AM »
The number of zombie skateboarding companies is decent right now. Most of these companies I am guessing are sustained by the $250 a month paycheque they are paying their riders. The biggest head scratcher right now is definitely Vinyl. Launch a company with little to no effort, whats the point ?

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Re: skate indsutry bubble taking a poop soon. starting with ace trucks
« Reply #40 on: February 21, 2025, 11:54:43 AM »
How can a bubble pop that has been deflating for 4 years?

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Re: skate indsutry bubble taking a poop soon. starting with ace trucks
« Reply #41 on: February 21, 2025, 12:10:15 PM »
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The number of zombie skateboarding companies is decent right now. Most of these companies I am guessing are sustained by the $250 a month paycheque they are paying their riders. The biggest head scratcher right now is definitely Vinyl. Launch a company with little to no effort, whats the point ?
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Tax write offs 😎

I am out of my element, does this mean that Blake Carpenter is making so much money I am guessing from Nike, that he is using Vinyl to reduce how much he pays for taxes ?

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Re: skate indsutry bubble taking a poop soon. starting with ace trucks
« Reply #42 on: February 21, 2025, 12:21:39 PM »
You can either pay taxes on your income like most people in the US choose to do or you can start a business and put all that tax money into the business, save your receipts for everything and then have an accountant-type file your taxes for you and your business that you are trying to get off the ground. This move officially makes you a job creator and we love that shit over here in late-stage capitalism land.

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Re: skate indsutry bubble taking a poop soon. starting with ace trucks
« Reply #43 on: February 21, 2025, 12:22:16 PM »
Yeah I think it’s pretty common knowledge that starting a shitty business actually makes you rich bc taxes

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Re: skate indsutry bubble taking a poop soon. starting with ace trucks
« Reply #44 on: February 21, 2025, 12:24:28 PM »
Yeah I think it’s pretty common knowledge that starting a shitty business actually makes you rich bc taxes

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Re: skate indsutry bubble taking a poop soon. starting with ace trucks
« Reply #45 on: February 21, 2025, 12:52:54 PM »
Yeah I think it’s pretty common knowledge that starting a shitty business actually makes you rich bc taxes

If you are Nyjah, Tyshawn, Sheckler, etc., and have a dozen disparate income sources, you will indeed save a ton of money by creating an LLC through which to funnel your spending.

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Re: skate indsutry bubble taking a poop soon. starting with ace trucks
« Reply #46 on: February 21, 2025, 05:42:26 PM »
How can a bubble pop that has been deflating for 4 years?

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Re: skate indsutry bubble taking a poop soon. starting with ace trucks
« Reply #47 on: February 21, 2025, 06:14:10 PM »
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The number of zombie skateboarding companies is decent right now. Most of these companies I am guessing are sustained by the $250 a month paycheque they are paying their riders. The biggest head scratcher right now is definitely Vinyl. Launch a company with little to no effort, whats the point ?
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Tax write offs 😎
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I am out of my element, does this mean that Blake Carpenter is making so much money I am guessing from Nike, that he is using Vinyl to reduce how much he pays for taxes ?

this is the way i understand it. pros or whoever, pay income tax on their earnings from their main sponsors (jobs). these income taxes are relatively progressive, meaning the more you make, the higher tax bracket you are in, and that means you have to pay a higher tax rate. note that this is income tax and not capital gains tax. but when you have a business, you can deduct business expenses from the amount of income you have to pay taxes on. the amount you spent on business related purchases can be subtracted from the amount of money you have to report as income. so if you want to travel and pay for hotels and go to skate events and stuff, if you have a skateboard company, those expenses can be considered a business expense, even if it is just some shit you would have done anyway. so the money still gets spent, but you end up owing less to the government at the end of the year. there is more to it when you report losses. if your business loses more than you make you end paying no taxes. and a good accountant can make all this a very favorable proposition.
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Re: skate indsutry bubble taking a poop soon. starting with ace trucks
« Reply #48 on: February 21, 2025, 06:49:49 PM »
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Kien Caples
Ryan Lay
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Adrianne Sloboh
Nora Vasconcellos
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Marbie and Nora both still follow Krux.
I doubt Nora is double dipping on truck sponsors, although it would be super dope if she was, so my money is on Marbie.
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pretty sure Nora had a welcome to Indy ad in a recent thrasher
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Might have to post this to the "Skateboarding legends/myths/conspiracy theories" thread but is anyone else thinking she put the logo there so she could gaslight someone at Krux into sending her a paycheck?

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Re: skate indsutry bubble taking a poop soon. starting with ace trucks
« Reply #49 on: February 21, 2025, 07:11:44 PM »
Max Palmer back on indy?

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Re: skate indsutry bubble taking a poop soon. starting with ace trucks
« Reply #50 on: February 21, 2025, 09:49:15 PM »
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The number of zombie skateboarding companies is decent right now. Most of these companies I am guessing are sustained by the $250 a month paycheque they are paying their riders. The biggest head scratcher right now is definitely Vinyl. Launch a company with little to no effort, whats the point ?
[close]

Tax write offs
[close]

I am out of my element, does this mean that Blake Carpenter is making so much money I am guessing from Nike, that he is using Vinyl to reduce how much he pays for taxes ?
[close]

this is the way i understand it. pros or whoever, pay income tax on their earnings from their main sponsors (jobs). these income taxes are relatively progressive, meaning the more you make, the higher tax bracket you are in, and that means you have to pay a higher tax rate. note that this is income tax and not capital gains tax. but when you have a business, you can deduct business expenses from the amount of income you have to pay taxes on. the amount you spent on business related purchases can be subtracted from the amount of money you have to report as income. so if you want to travel and pay for hotels and go to skate events and stuff, if you have a skateboard company, those expenses can be considered a business expense, even if it is just some shit you would have done anyway. so the money still gets spent, but you end up owing less to the government at the end of the year. there is more to it when you report losses. if your business loses more than you make you end paying no taxes. and a good accountant can make all this a very favorable proposition.

That’s good info, AP. Thank you.

But, I think I need to hear it from a reputable source I know and trust:

ChatGPT, please say this more like the skater Mikey Taylor and really excited.

“ Alright, here’s how Mikey Taylor might really break it down—amped up and straight to the point:

Alright, here’s the deal! Pros—or anyone making money from sponsors—pay income tax on that money, just like a regular job. And income tax is progressive, meaning the more you make, the higher your tax rate. That’s just how it works. BUT—and this is where it gets good—this is income tax, not capital gains tax. Different game.

Now, when you own a business, it’s a whole new world. You get to write off business expenses, which means you lower the amount of money you’re taxed on. So let’s say you’re traveling, staying in hotels, hitting up contests, skating with the homies—if you have a skate company, that stuff counts as a business expense! It’s money you’re spending anyway, but now it’s working for you, because it reduces how much you owe in taxes. Game changer.

And here’s where it gets even crazier—if your business loses more than it makes, you can end up paying NO taxes at all. Straight up. And with a solid accountant? Dude, this is how the game is played. It’s not about dodging taxes—it’s about understanding how business works and making it work in your favor.“

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Re: skate indsutry bubble taking a poop soon. starting with ace trucks
« Reply #51 on: February 21, 2025, 09:59:09 PM »
Yeah I think it’s pretty common knowledge that starting a shitty business actually makes you rich bc taxes
You gotta have money coming in from somewhere though. Pretty sure you have to be an oil company or a farmer if you want the government to pay you to lose money

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« Reply #52 on: February 21, 2025, 10:22:14 PM »
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The number of zombie skateboarding companies is decent right now. Most of these companies I am guessing are sustained by the $250 a month paycheque they are paying their riders. The biggest head scratcher right now is definitely Vinyl. Launch a company with little to no effort, whats the point ?
[close]

Tax write offs
[close]

I am out of my element, does this mean that Blake Carpenter is making so much money I am guessing from Nike, that he is using Vinyl to reduce how much he pays for taxes ?
[close]

this is the way i understand it. pros or whoever, pay income tax on their earnings from their main sponsors (jobs). these income taxes are relatively progressive, meaning the more you make, the higher tax bracket you are in, and that means you have to pay a higher tax rate. note that this is income tax and not capital gains tax. but when you have a business, you can deduct business expenses from the amount of income you have to pay taxes on. the amount you spent on business related purchases can be subtracted from the amount of money you have to report as income. so if you want to travel and pay for hotels and go to skate events and stuff, if you have a skateboard company, those expenses can be considered a business expense, even if it is just some shit you would have done anyway. so the money still gets spent, but you end up owing less to the government at the end of the year. there is more to it when you report losses. if your business loses more than you make you end paying no taxes. and a good accountant can make all this a very favorable proposition.
[close]

That’s good info, AP. Thank you.

But, I think I need to hear it from a reputable source I know and trust:

ChatGPT, please say this more like the skater Mikey Taylor and really excited.

“ Alright, here’s how Mikey Taylor might really break it down—amped up and straight to the point:

Alright, here’s the deal! Pros—or anyone making money from sponsors—pay income tax on that money, just like a regular job. And income tax is progressive, meaning the more you make, the higher your tax rate. That’s just how it works. BUT—and this is where it gets good—this is income tax, not capital gains tax. Different game.

Now, when you own a business, it’s a whole new world. You get to write off business expenses, which means you lower the amount of money you’re taxed on. So let’s say you’re traveling, staying in hotels, hitting up contests, skating with the homies—if you have a skate company, that stuff counts as a business expense! It’s money you’re spending anyway, but now it’s working for you, because it reduces how much you owe in taxes. Game changer.

And here’s where it gets even crazier—if your business loses more than it makes, you can end up paying NO taxes at all. Straight up. And with a solid accountant? Dude, this is how the game is played. It’s not about dodging taxes—it’s about understanding how business works and making it work in your favor.“

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Re: skate indsutry bubble taking a poop soon. starting with ace trucks
« Reply #53 on: February 23, 2025, 09:27:17 AM »
Goodbye isle, at least you didn’t sell off the company and act like you didn’t know anything about it unlike Bill weiss and louie barletta, i’m sure they were soo clueless, no one knew it was gonna happen… Riiiight

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« Reply #54 on: February 23, 2025, 09:31:16 AM »
Cardiel should get back on Indy
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« Reply #55 on: February 23, 2025, 09:53:02 AM »
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The number of zombie skateboarding companies is decent right now. Most of these companies I am guessing are sustained by the $250 a month paycheque they are paying their riders. The biggest head scratcher right now is definitely Vinyl. Launch a company with little to no effort, whats the point ?
[close]

Tax write offs 😎
[close]

I am out of my element, does this mean that Blake Carpenter is making so much money I am guessing from Nike, that he is using Vinyl to reduce how much he pays for taxes ?
[close]

this is the way i understand it. pros or whoever, pay income tax on their earnings from their main sponsors (jobs). these income taxes are relatively progressive, meaning the more you make, the higher tax bracket you are in, and that means you have to pay a higher tax rate. note that this is income tax and not capital gains tax. but when you have a business, you can deduct business expenses from the amount of income you have to pay taxes on. the amount you spent on business related purchases can be subtracted from the amount of money you have to report as income. so if you want to travel and pay for hotels and go to skate events and stuff, if you have a skateboard company, those expenses can be considered a business expense, even if it is just some shit you would have done anyway. so the money still gets spent, but you end up owing less to the government at the end of the year. there is more to it when you report losses. if your business loses more than you make you end paying no taxes. and a good accountant can make all this a very favorable proposition.

Most of the time, skaters have a travel budget attached to their contact. I.E. a 5,10,15 thousand. budget for you to call and ask for them to book hotels, flights, ect. Obviously certain people aren't restricted.

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« Reply #56 on: February 23, 2025, 09:56:07 AM »
Goodbye isle, at least you didn’t sell off the company and act like you didn’t know anything about it unlike Bill weiss and louie barletta, i’m sure they were soo clueless, no one knew it was gonna happen… Riiiight

weiss and barletta probably out there daring everyone to play them a game of skate for the right to be shitheads about selling out.
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« Reply #57 on: February 23, 2025, 10:13:49 AM »
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Goodbye isle, at least you didn’t sell off the company and act like you didn’t know anything about it unlike Bill weiss and louie barletta, i’m sure they were soo clueless, no one knew it was gonna happen… Riiiight
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weiss and barletta probably out there daring everyone to play them a game of skate for the right to be shitheads about selling out.
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Re: skate indsutry bubble taking a poop soon. starting with ace trucks
« Reply #58 on: February 23, 2025, 10:56:48 AM »
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Goodbye isle, at least you didn’t sell off the company and act like you didn’t know anything about it unlike Bill weiss and louie barletta, i’m sure they were soo clueless, no one knew it was gonna happen… Riiiight
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weiss and barletta probably out there daring everyone to play them a game of skate for the right to be shitheads about selling out.

or better yet, start another 2-3 companies under sidewalk distribution just to build it up and do the same thing in 5-10 years and act clueless about getting paid out. Except they won’t even make it that long this time. Must be nice to proxy all the young skateboarders to do all their dirty work while they make money and check the numbers. barletta being banned from selling on ebay and admitting it on a youtube video and trying to make new accounts under other fake names is all you need to know about the guy
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« Reply #59 on: February 23, 2025, 11:47:44 AM »
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Goodbye isle, at least you didn’t sell off the company and act like you didn’t know anything about it unlike Bill weiss and louie barletta, i’m sure they were soo clueless, no one knew it was gonna happen… Riiiight
[close]

weiss and barletta probably out there daring everyone to play them a game of skate for the right to be shitheads about selling out.
[close]

or better yet, start another 2-3 companies under sidewalk distribution just to build it up and do the same thing in 5-10 years and act clueless about getting paid out. Except they won’t even make it that long this time. Must be nice to proxy all the young skateboarders to do all their dirty work while they make money and check the numbers. barletta being banned from selling on ebay and admitting it on a youtube video and trying to make new accounts under other fake names is all you need to know about the guy

i could not have said it better myself
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