Post UPCOMING/RECENT shoe releases thread

[GAY]

is it pronounced 3 - S - T, ThreeST, ThirST, 3 Street

Asking for a friend. k thanks

I thought it was "east".

[Fongstarr.]

Dane Vaughn's new pro shoe

[Paco Supreme]

new cons slip colourways, still found in US shops

[Atiba Applebum]

Dane Vaughn's new pro shoe

Was this filmed on St Patrick’s Day?

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The 3ST is an experiment that looks to be paying off already. Adidas wants to see if people will pay $100 for a slip on, and from there they can offer simpler shoes for more money. The Samba ADVs and Busenitz Sambas showed that they can offer a shoe with 2/3 less suede and people will still pay $75 for it, and this looks to be a continuation of that approach.

Speak with your wallets.

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You clearly dont understand the shoe making process, because you would know that a shoe with such a big suede area with no splits is not pattern efficient at all (the only split is in the heel) , so there's a lot of waste when cutting it. So no, they're not selling cheaper shoes for a higher price. Thats why the lower top version is less expensive then the slip one, even if there's more stuff on it they can probably still get it cheaper because its more efficient (panels are smaller, less waste, easier construction, etc...).
Basically simpler look doesnt mean cheaper to produce.

And also, where's the 2/3 less suede on the Samba ADV/Busenitz Samba? Where there is no suede its leather which is not cheaper... The Busenitz samba should be actually more expensive to produce because they're adding one extra layer to the toe than the normal Busenitz vulc.

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The Samba toe is not layered, it's seamed to the rest of the material.

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The samba toe in the busenitz is an extra layer (I'm almost sure about this). In the ADV is a seamed panel, so the underlay doesnt go all the way down. But that doesnt make its cheaper than a 1 piece toe cap, makes it more expensive, because you will have an extra step in the building process, so thats one extra person to stitch that panel down and there's more time wasted (time is money). If they did a clean toe, with suede all the way down and no overlays that would be probably the cheapest option, but I think they choose to keep the identity of samba more true to the original, thats why the did the T-toe overlay (which looks better aswell).

But this is not really related to your initial point, where's the cost saving in this T-toe construction you are talking about? I would get it if the base material was mesh/canvas but obviously it isnt in any colorway released yet.

just to be devils advocate
http://youtu.be/Cc-KITETLl4?t=2m53s

[Wizard Fight]

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Dane Vaughn's new pro shoe

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Was this filmed on St Patrick’s Day?

Is that Dane Vaughn?

[Atiba Applebum]

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Dane Vaughn's new pro shoe

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Was this filmed on St Patrick’s Day?

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Is that Dane Vaughn?

Swamp Staba

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The 3ST is an experiment that looks to be paying off already. Adidas wants to see if people will pay $100 for a slip on, and from there they can offer simpler shoes for more money. The Samba ADVs and Busenitz Sambas showed that they can offer a shoe with 2/3 less suede and people will still pay $75 for it, and this looks to be a continuation of that approach.

Speak with your wallets.

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The RA's for the FA/Nakel's went out this week to shops. They are already going back to ADI

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who would've thought that a slip on with a bootie, a bright blue sole, "nak" written in hulkamania font written all over it, priced at over 100 dollars... wouldn't sell. it seemed like such a sure thing.

What are RAs?

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The 3ST is an experiment that looks to be paying off already. Adidas wants to see if people will pay $100 for a slip on, and from there they can offer simpler shoes for more money. The Samba ADVs and Busenitz Sambas showed that they can offer a shoe with 2/3 less suede and people will still pay $75 for it, and this looks to be a continuation of that approach.

Speak with your wallets.

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The RA's for the FA/Nakel's went out this week to shops. They are already going back to ADI

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who would've thought that a slip on with a bootie, a bright blue sole, "nak" written in hulkamania font written all over it, priced at over 100 dollars... wouldn't sell. it seemed like such a sure thing.

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What are RAs?

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The 3ST is an experiment that looks to be paying off already. Adidas wants to see if people will pay $100 for a slip on, and from there they can offer simpler shoes for more money. The Samba ADVs and Busenitz Sambas showed that they can offer a shoe with 2/3 less suede and people will still pay $75 for it, and this looks to be a continuation of that approach.

Speak with your wallets.

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You clearly dont understand the shoe making process, because you would know that a shoe with such a big suede area with no splits is not pattern efficient at all (the only split is in the heel) , so there's a lot of waste when cutting it. So no, they're not selling cheaper shoes for a higher price. Thats why the lower top version is less expensive then the slip one, even if there's more stuff on it they can probably still get it cheaper because its more efficient (panels are smaller, less waste, easier construction, etc...).
Basically simpler look doesnt mean cheaper to produce.

And also, where's the 2/3 less suede on the Samba ADV/Busenitz Samba? Where there is no suede its leather which is not cheaper... The Busenitz samba should be actually more expensive to produce because they're adding one extra layer to the toe than the normal Busenitz vulc.

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The Samba toe is not layered, it's seamed to the rest of the material.

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The samba toe in the busenitz is an extra layer (I'm almost sure about this). In the ADV is a seamed panel, so the underlay doesnt go all the way down. But that doesnt make its cheaper than a 1 piece toe cap, makes it more expensive, because you will have an extra step in the building process, so thats one extra person to stitch that panel down and there's more time wasted (time is money). If they did a clean toe, with suede all the way down and no overlays that would be probably the cheapest option, but I think they choose to keep the identity of samba more true to the original, thats why the did the T-toe overlay (which looks better aswell).

But this is not really related to your initial point, where's the cost saving in this T-toe construction you are talking about? I would get it if the base material was mesh/canvas but obviously it isnt in any colorway released yet.

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just to be devils advocate
http://youtu.be/Cc-KITETLl4?t=2m53s

can someone edit this to show the vid? i took out the "s" from "https:" i thought that did it.

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The 3ST is an experiment that looks to be paying off already. Adidas wants to see if people will pay $100 for a slip on, and from there they can offer simpler shoes for more money. The Samba ADVs and Busenitz Sambas showed that they can offer a shoe with 2/3 less suede and people will still pay $75 for it, and this looks to be a continuation of that approach.

Speak with your wallets.

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You clearly dont understand the shoe making process, because you would know that a shoe with such a big suede area with no splits is not pattern efficient at all (the only split is in the heel) , so there's a lot of waste when cutting it. So no, they're not selling cheaper shoes for a higher price. Thats why the lower top version is less expensive then the slip one, even if there's more stuff on it they can probably still get it cheaper because its more efficient (panels are smaller, less waste, easier construction, etc...).
Basically simpler look doesnt mean cheaper to produce.

And also, where's the 2/3 less suede on the Samba ADV/Busenitz Samba? Where there is no suede its leather which is not cheaper... The Busenitz samba should be actually more expensive to produce because they're adding one extra layer to the toe than the normal Busenitz vulc.

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The Samba toe is not layered, it's seamed to the rest of the material.

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The samba toe in the busenitz is an extra layer (I'm almost sure about this). In the ADV is a seamed panel, so the underlay doesnt go all the way down. But that doesnt make its cheaper than a 1 piece toe cap, makes it more expensive, because you will have an extra step in the building process, so thats one extra person to stitch that panel down and there's more time wasted (time is money). If they did a clean toe, with suede all the way down and no overlays that would be probably the cheapest option, but I think they choose to keep the identity of samba more true to the original, thats why the did the T-toe overlay (which looks better aswell).

But this is not really related to your initial point, where's the cost saving in this T-toe construction you are talking about? I would get it if the base material was mesh/canvas but obviously it isnt in any colorway released yet.

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just to be devils advocate

2:50

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[Sk.A.T.A.N]

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The 3ST is an experiment that looks to be paying off already. Adidas wants to see if people will pay $100 for a slip on, and from there they can offer simpler shoes for more money. The Samba ADVs and Busenitz Sambas showed that they can offer a shoe with 2/3 less suede and people will still pay $75 for it, and this looks to be a continuation of that approach.

Speak with your wallets.

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You clearly dont understand the shoe making process, because you would know that a shoe with such a big suede area with no splits is not pattern efficient at all (the only split is in the heel) , so there's a lot of waste when cutting it. So no, they're not selling cheaper shoes for a higher price. Thats why the lower top version is less expensive then the slip one, even if there's more stuff on it they can probably still get it cheaper because its more efficient (panels are smaller, less waste, easier construction, etc...).
Basically simpler look doesnt mean cheaper to produce.

And also, where's the 2/3 less suede on the Samba ADV/Busenitz Samba? Where there is no suede its leather which is not cheaper... The Busenitz samba should be actually more expensive to produce because they're adding one extra layer to the toe than the normal Busenitz vulc.

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The Samba toe is not layered, it's seamed to the rest of the material.

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The samba toe in the busenitz is an extra layer (I'm almost sure about this). In the ADV is a seamed panel, so the underlay doesnt go all the way down. But that doesnt make its cheaper than a 1 piece toe cap, makes it more expensive, because you will have an extra step in the building process, so thats one extra person to stitch that panel down and there's more time wasted (time is money). If they did a clean toe, with suede all the way down and no overlays that would be probably the cheapest option, but I think they choose to keep the identity of samba more true to the original, thats why the did the T-toe overlay (which looks better aswell).

But this is not really related to your initial point, where's the cost saving in this T-toe construction you are talking about? I would get it if the base material was mesh/canvas but obviously it isnt in any colorway released yet.

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just to be devils advocate
http://youtu.be/Cc-KITETLl4?t=2m53s

I dont think you guys are understanding the point and that video doesnt address it. I know it has that flaw of blowing out.
What I'm saying is that the T-toe doesnt make you save any money like MyUserName was saying in the beggining. The whole shoe is still covered by leather which is usually similar pricing to the suede.

[Roisto]

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The 3ST is an experiment that looks to be paying off already. Adidas wants to see if people will pay $100 for a slip on, and from there they can offer simpler shoes for more money. The Samba ADVs and Busenitz Sambas showed that they can offer a shoe with 2/3 less suede and people will still pay $75 for it, and this looks to be a continuation of that approach.

Speak with your wallets.

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You clearly dont understand the shoe making process, because you would know that a shoe with such a big suede area with no splits is not pattern efficient at all (the only split is in the heel) , so there's a lot of waste when cutting it. So no, they're not selling cheaper shoes for a higher price. Thats why the lower top version is less expensive then the slip one, even if there's more stuff on it they can probably still get it cheaper because its more efficient (panels are smaller, less waste, easier construction, etc...).
Basically simpler look doesnt mean cheaper to produce.

And also, where's the 2/3 less suede on the Samba ADV/Busenitz Samba? Where there is no suede its leather which is not cheaper... The Busenitz samba should be actually more expensive to produce because they're adding one extra layer to the toe than the normal Busenitz vulc.

[close]

The Samba toe is not layered, it's seamed to the rest of the material.

[close]

The samba toe in the busenitz is an extra layer (I'm almost sure about this). In the ADV is a seamed panel, so the underlay doesnt go all the way down. But that doesnt make its cheaper than a 1 piece toe cap, makes it more expensive, because you will have an extra step in the building process, so thats one extra person to stitch that panel down and there's more time wasted (time is money). If they did a clean toe, with suede all the way down and no overlays that would be probably the cheapest option, but I think they choose to keep the identity of samba more true to the original, thats why the did the T-toe overlay (which looks better aswell).

But this is not really related to your initial point, where's the cost saving in this T-toe construction you are talking about? I would get it if the base material was mesh/canvas but obviously it isnt in any colorway released yet.

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just to be devils advocate
http://youtu.be/Cc-KITETLl4?t=2m53s

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I dont think you guys are understanding the point and that video doesnt address it. I know it has that flaw of blowing out.
What I'm saying is that the T-toe doesnt make you save any money like MyUserName was saying in the beggining. The whole shoe is still covered by leather which is usually similar pricing to the suede.

Then why did some idiot decide it was a good idea to not have a double layer there on the skate version while there is on the non-skate version? Seems like a total “fuck you” from Adidas to skaters who made the mistake of buying their skate shoes.

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The 3ST is an experiment that looks to be paying off already. Adidas wants to see if people will pay $100 for a slip on, and from there they can offer simpler shoes for more money. The Samba ADVs and Busenitz Sambas showed that they can offer a shoe with 2/3 less suede and people will still pay $75 for it, and this looks to be a continuation of that approach.

Speak with your wallets.

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You clearly dont understand the shoe making process, because you would know that a shoe with such a big suede area with no splits is not pattern efficient at all (the only split is in the heel) , so there's a lot of waste when cutting it. So no, they're not selling cheaper shoes for a higher price. Thats why the lower top version is less expensive then the slip one, even if there's more stuff on it they can probably still get it cheaper because its more efficient (panels are smaller, less waste, easier construction, etc...).
Basically simpler look doesnt mean cheaper to produce.

And also, where's the 2/3 less suede on the Samba ADV/Busenitz Samba? Where there is no suede its leather which is not cheaper... The Busenitz samba should be actually more expensive to produce because they're adding one extra layer to the toe than the normal Busenitz vulc.

[close]

The Samba toe is not layered, it's seamed to the rest of the material.

[close]

The samba toe in the busenitz is an extra layer (I'm almost sure about this). In the ADV is a seamed panel, so the underlay doesnt go all the way down. But that doesnt make its cheaper than a 1 piece toe cap, makes it more expensive, because you will have an extra step in the building process, so thats one extra person to stitch that panel down and there's more time wasted (time is money). If they did a clean toe, with suede all the way down and no overlays that would be probably the cheapest option, but I think they choose to keep the identity of samba more true to the original, thats why the did the T-toe overlay (which looks better aswell).

But this is not really related to your initial point, where's the cost saving in this T-toe construction you are talking about? I would get it if the base material was mesh/canvas but obviously it isnt in any colorway released yet.

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just to be devils advocate
http://youtu.be/Cc-KITETLl4?t=2m53s

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I dont think you guys are understanding the point and that video doesnt address it. I know it has that flaw of blowing out.
What I'm saying is that the T-toe doesnt make you save any money like MyUserName was saying in the beggining. The whole shoe is still covered by leather which is usually similar pricing to the suede.

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Then why did some idiot decide it was a good idea to not have a double layer there on the skate version while there is on the non-skate version? Seems like a total “fuck you” from Adidas to skaters who made the mistake of buying their skate shoes.

We get it skatan you are a Adidas spawn so you have to defend them but honestly that's a shitty thing to do by Adidas.. And about the cost of the shoe or about the margins, I don't think it matters to the pricing whether the shoe is leather, suede or canvas if you are a big shoe giant like adidas is..

[Sk.A.T.A.N]

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Then why did some idiot decide it was a good idea to not have a double layer there on the skate version while there is on the non-skate version? Seems like a total “fuck you” from Adidas to skaters who made the mistake of buying their skate shoes.

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We get it skatan you are a Adidas spawn so you have to defend them but honestly that's a shitty thing to do by Adidas.. And about the cost of the shoe or about the margins, I don't think it matters to the pricing whether the shoe is leather, suede or canvas if you are a big shoe giant like adidas is..

Aw fuck off, I'm not here trying to protect the company. I'm just trying to explain why it happened in the first place. I dont even work in the Skateboarding range so I dont need to be talking about this at all, but you guys just talk out of your asses without knowing shit so I cant help my need to step in (I still love you Slap).

And of course the margin matters you idiot, no matter the size of the brand. I hope you dont run a business.

To be honest, I skated the first Samba ADV and I didnt ripped any panel, so it depends on how you skate/flick. Toe caps on dunks blow out as quick or faster and no one complains, just accept or put some super glue in the seams, why is this different?

[Roisto]

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Then why did some idiot decide it was a good idea to not have a double layer there on the skate version while there is on the non-skate version? Seems like a total “fuck you” from Adidas to skaters who made the mistake of buying their skate shoes.

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We get it skatan you are a Adidas spawn so you have to defend them but honestly that's a shitty thing to do by Adidas.. And about the cost of the shoe or about the margins, I don't think it matters to the pricing whether the shoe is leather, suede or canvas if you are a big shoe giant like adidas is..

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Aw fuck off, I'm not here trying to protect the company. I'm just trying to explain why it happened in the first place. I dont even work in the Skateboarding range so I dont need to be talking about this at all, but you guys just talk out of your asses without knowing shit so I cant help my need to step in (I still love you Slap).

And of course the margin matters you idiot, no matter the size of the brand. I hope you dont run a business.

To be honest, I skated the first Samba ADV and I didnt ripped any panel, so it depends on how you skate/flick. Toe caps on dunks blow out as quick or faster and no one complains, just accept or put some super glue in the seams, why is this different?

Because they made the skateboard version of the shoe actually worse for skateboarding! And what for? You seem to know that it’s not for cutting costs. But what would be the reason? Is the normal version too durable cuz skaters are stupid and will buy any shit so better make them not last very long cuz the idiots will happily buy another pair cuz “OMG Chewy Cannon and Blondie skate Adidas!!!”?

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Then why did some idiot decide it was a good idea to not have a double layer there on the skate version while there is on the non-skate version? Seems like a total “fuck you” from Adidas to skaters who made the mistake of buying their skate shoes.

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We get it skatan you are a Adidas spawn so you have to defend them but honestly that's a shitty thing to do by Adidas.. And about the cost of the shoe or about the margins, I don't think it matters to the pricing whether the shoe is leather, suede or canvas if you are a big shoe giant like adidas is..

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Aw fuck off, I'm not here trying to protect the company. I'm just trying to explain why it happened in the first place. I dont even work in the Skateboarding range so I dont need to be talking about this at all, but you guys just talk out of your asses without knowing shit so I cant help my need to step in (I still love you Slap).

And of course the margin matters you idiot, no matter the size of the brand. I hope you dont run a business.

To be honest, I skated the first Samba ADV and I didnt ripped any panel, so it depends on how you skate/flick. Toe caps on dunks blow out as quick or faster and no one complains, just accept or put some super glue in the seams, why is this different?

OK....
- Materials. The material always matters. You have to pay tariffs/dutys on all materials. Leather/Suede is at 9% and Synthetics of any kinds are at 19-21% depending on the country of origin. The US makes cows. The leather gets shipped over seas. Thus, when a shoe manufacturer uses leather he is supporting the farming industry in the US = lower tariffs. Synthetics are made over seas = they get dinged at the higher rate.

- Margin. any publicly traded company (NIKE/ADI/VANS) is concerned with margin. Higher margins = profitability/dividends for shareholders. The shitty part about margin is that it is also a key factor in all publicly traded shoe companies SR leadership bonus structure. This includes chiefs in design/development/sales. So there is that impacting the price also.

- Tooling. One of the reasons this ADI slip - on is so expensive is that it is all new tooling. If it had used an existing sole that had already been amortized (paid for), it would have been cheaper. I am sure the fear of what is happening with this shoe (clowning) was also a determining factor on the price. This shoe is not going to live long enough to reach amortization.   keep this in mind when you are buying any of the retro shoes from these publicly traded companies. The bruin/dunk/Vans classic tooling has been paid for decades. The margin on those shoes is...you get the picture....

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Then why did some idiot decide it was a good idea to not have a double layer there on the skate version while there is on the non-skate version? Seems like a total “fuck you” from Adidas to skaters who made the mistake of buying their skate shoes.

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We get it skatan you are a Adidas spawn so you have to defend them but honestly that's a shitty thing to do by Adidas.. And about the cost of the shoe or about the margins, I don't think it matters to the pricing whether the shoe is leather, suede or canvas if you are a big shoe giant like adidas is..

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Aw fuck off, I'm not here trying to protect the company. I'm just trying to explain why it happened in the first place. I dont even work in the Skateboarding range so I dont need to be talking about this at all, but you guys just talk out of your asses without knowing shit so I cant help my need to step in (I still love you Slap).

And of course the margin matters you idiot, no matter the size of the brand. I hope you dont run a business.

To be honest, I skated the first Samba ADV and I didnt ripped any panel, so it depends on how you skate/flick. Toe caps on dunks blow out as quick or faster and no one complains, just accept or put some super glue in the seams, why is this different?

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OK....
- Materials. The material always matters. You have to pay tariffs/dutys on all materials. Leather/Suede is at 9% and Synthetics of any kinds are at 19-21% depending on the country of origin. The US makes cows. The leather gets shipped over seas. Thus, when a shoe manufacturer uses leather he is supporting the farming industry in the US = lower tariffs. Synthetics are made over seas = they get dinged at the higher rate.

- Margin. any publicly traded company (NIKE/ADI/VANS) is concerned with margin. Higher margins = profitability/dividends for shareholders. The shitty part about margin is that it is also a key factor in all publicly traded shoe companies SR leadership bonus structure. This includes chiefs in design/development/sales. So there is that impacting the price also.

- Tooling. One of the reasons this ADI slip - on is so expensive is that it is all new tooling. If it had used an existing sole that had already been amortized (paid for), it would have been cheaper. I am sure the fear of what is happening with this shoe (clowning) was also a determining factor on the price. This shoe is not going to live long enough to reach amortization.   keep this in mind when you are buying any of the retro shoes from these publicly traded companies. The bruin/dunk/Vans classic tooling has been paid for decades. The margin on those shoes is...you get the picture....

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When I buy a shoe I don't want to fix it by using some shoe glue I want a functioning shoe to begin with..

 And I know that's why I left out synthetics because they have higher tariffs..
But Do you seriously think that companies don't fix their prices if they use leather or other materials? For what I've seen leather shoes are almost always pricier than say suede or canvas.. Some nike janoski I got in leather were five bucks more expensive than suede version.. Companies just add the extra on the retail price for us consumers to pay.. I'd even say that they make more profit on these type deals like that buze samba which is also a remodeling of a existing shoe...

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new cons slip colourways, still found in US shops

man those are some nice VANS

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Then why did some idiot decide it was a good idea to not have a double layer there on the skate version while there is on the non-skate version? Seems like a total “fuck you” from Adidas to skaters who made the mistake of buying their skate shoes.

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We get it skatan you are a Adidas spawn so you have to defend them but honestly that's a shitty thing to do by Adidas.. And about the cost of the shoe or about the margins, I don't think it matters to the pricing whether the shoe is leather, suede or canvas if you are a big shoe giant like adidas is..

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Aw fuck off, I'm not here trying to protect the company. I'm just trying to explain why it happened in the first place. I dont even work in the Skateboarding range so I dont need to be talking about this at all, but you guys just talk out of your asses without knowing shit so I cant help my need to step in (I still love you Slap).

And of course the margin matters you idiot, no matter the size of the brand. I hope you dont run a business.

To be honest, I skated the first Samba ADV and I didnt ripped any panel, so it depends on how you skate/flick. Toe caps on dunks blow out as quick or faster and no one complains, just accept or put some super glue in the seams, why is this different?

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OK....
- Materials. The material always matters. You have to pay tariffs/dutys on all materials. Leather/Suede is at 9% and Synthetics of any kinds are at 19-21% depending on the country of origin. The US makes cows. The leather gets shipped over seas. Thus, when a shoe manufacturer uses leather he is supporting the farming industry in the US = lower tariffs. Synthetics are made over seas = they get dinged at the higher rate.

- Margin. any publicly traded company (NIKE/ADI/VANS) is concerned with margin. Higher margins = profitability/dividends for shareholders. The shitty part about margin is that it is also a key factor in all publicly traded shoe companies SR leadership bonus structure. This includes chiefs in design/development/sales. So there is that impacting the price also.

- Tooling. One of the reasons this ADI slip - on is so expensive is that it is all new tooling. If it had used an existing sole that had already been amortized (paid for), it would have been cheaper. I am sure the fear of what is happening with this shoe (clowning) was also a determining factor on the price. This shoe is not going to live long enough to reach amortization.   keep this in mind when you are buying any of the retro shoes from these publicly traded companies. The bruin/dunk/Vans classic tooling has been paid for decades. The margin on those shoes is...you get the picture....

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When I buy a shoe I don't want to fix it by using some shoe glue I want a functioning shoe to begin with..

 And I know that's why I left out synthetics because they have higher tariffs..
But Do you seriously think that companies don't fix their prices if they use leather or other materials? For what I've seen leather shoes are almost always pricier than say suede or canvas.. Some nike janoski I got in leather were five bucks more expensive than suede version.. Companies just add the extra on the retail price for us consumers to pay.. I'd even say that they make more profit on these type deals like that buze samba which is also a remodeling of a existing shoe...

I'm totally on board with you in the first point. That flaw is stupid and shouldn't happen. It somehow slipped through but I was not involved in the process so I cant blame anyone other than guess... I just gave a example of an loved shoe with a similar flaw.

2nd point, why do they make a bigger profit in the buz samba? I would say they make arround the same.
I have both the normal Vulc Buz and the Buz Samba and its not like they stitched an extra panel in the toe and raised 10$ in the price. The overall materials on the samba version are better. they used an higher grain leather (not all leather is the same or cost the same) and for example the lining in the heel area in the normal vulc is just mesh, while the samba is leather, so this type of stuff make it a more valuable product, raising up the retail price. 

Leaky, you were pretty on point with what you wrote, I just think the materials parts is not that clear, because you make it sound like synthetic stuff is more expensive but most of the time, even with the higher tax, it is cheaper than animal stuff. but fuck, enough of this stuff...
Lets post shoes guys!

[Bubblegum Tate]

OG lynx drop is supposed to be limited.

[Watson]

Yep, limited shops and a size run of 12 pairs per shop. DC sent me some the other day. They're really thick.

[doublesteveburger]

those things look cartoonishly big

[Stoop Kid 2.0]

Just saw that Adidas is charging $150 for a fucking sock and calling it a skate shoe.

[planman]

I don't usually like it when Stoop Kid posts, but when I do, it's pretty damn good

[Leaky McBurnside]

Yep, limited shops and a size run of 12 pairs per shop. DC sent me some the other day. They're really thick.

I will be at PacificDrive on the 14th.

[Atiba Applebum]

OG lynx drop is supposed to be limited.

It’ll be a bummer to see people push switch regularly in these or any of the DC heritage shoes

[funeral_tuxedo]

Yep, limited shops and a size run of 12 pairs per shop. DC sent me some the other day. They're really thick.

Watson, do they fit true to size? Is the sole flexible at all? Any idea on the drop $?

[DISTANT RUMOURS]

So us Euro kids (read: +30) aren't going to see any?

[144p]

The Lynx fits true to size.
$110 retail.
shops are getting sizes 6-12, only 1 of every size but 10.