i found the hubba, it's on Centre and Heldman right outside of downtown. if your going away from the city you will be taking a left on heldman, and the hubba will be in the first parking lot on the right. but like i said, there's a security guard there even on sundays. so your best chance of skating it as at night time (it's partially lit up). and honestly, the dudes at one up are the coolest dudes i've ever met. if you go shoot the shit with them, rob or greg will have no problem linking you up with spots, or people.