Question for all of you:
Anyone remember the Versa (Olson's model iirc)? Didn't sell too well, but I actually got a pair, and I'm fairly certain they were some kind of a "WaffleCup."
If so (and the Stage 4's are clearly improvements upon that) then I think these will be some of the toughest skate shoes around.
My Versa's are still in commission (despite the useless toe stitching undoing itself very early on), and the soles stood up to a lot of wear and tear. I rarely skate in them anymore but I must give respect for long lasting shoes and construction
i feel like i've been fooled to many times by vans. i think this shoe looks great. and hey!, look all these skaters i like worked on it. should be good.
but i have no doubt they will make my feet hurt like crazy like every other pair of vans i have owned.
if people who LIKE how vans feel. design a vans shoe.. well.
i'm pretty sure if i ordered a pair.. it would be shame on me.
always my issue. What's saved me is replacing the stock Vans insoles with SoleTech insoles (or similar, with built-in support). I have always had flat feel and low arches so Vans are sometimes painful even for chilling...
Of course you run into the issue of the insoles not fitting the shoes properly, but if you're desperate, that should save you some pain...shin splints from your shoes are no fun.