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Re: NBA Thread
« Reply #3000 on: July 05, 2018, 07:35:01 PM »
I also feel that the Boogie signing has been overrated. On a one-year contract, and coming back from an achilles injury, how many total minutes is he going to play for them next year? $5.4 million probably isn't far off from the actual value he'll provide for the team, assuming he comes back sometime around the all-star break on 15-22 minutes a game. All this does is make the Warriors better on paper, while giving Demarcus somewhere to hang out while he tries (probably in vain) to rebuild his value to max-contract level.

Does anyone know WTF the Lakers are doing? I get that they wanna sign a bunch of vets to one-year deals to keep their cap space for 2019, but they could have at least gotten some that fit their team (Ariza). Instead, they're assembling one of the most clown car NBA squads in recent memory to put around Lebron in one of his few remaining prime years.


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« Reply #3001 on: July 06, 2018, 07:22:49 AM »
Lakers look like they're gearing up for a Kawhi trade, but their FA signings are headscratchers for sure. I've been convinced for years that Magic Johnson is one of the dumbest men in basketball.

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« Reply #3002 on: July 06, 2018, 10:00:31 AM »
I also feel that the Boogie signing has been overrated. On a one-year contract, and coming back from an achilles injury, how many total minutes is he going to play for them next year? $5.4 million probably isn't far off from the actual value he'll provide for the team, assuming he comes back sometime around the all-star break on 15-22 minutes a game. All this does is make the Warriors better on paper, while giving Demarcus somewhere to hang out while he tries (probably in vain) to rebuild his value to max-contract level.

Does anyone know WTF the Lakers are doing? I get that they wanna sign a bunch of vets to one-year deals to keep their cap space for 2019, but they could have at least gotten some that fit their team (Ariza). Instead, they're assembling one of the most clown car NBA squads in recent memory to put around Lebron in one of his few remaining prime years.

Any explanation I've seen is that they're trying to surround LeBron with hard-working playmakers so he can post up and score. It's vastly different than the style of play we're used to seeing with him, but the general idea is to give the ball to other guys who can take some of the workload off LeBron. It seems like they signed him this season, and 2019 go after a few more pieces. The list of free agents there would provide some interesting lineups.

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Re: NBA Thread
« Reply #3003 on: July 06, 2018, 10:59:20 AM »
I also feel that the Boogie signing has been overrated. On a one-year contract, and coming back from an achilles injury, how many total minutes is he going to play for them next year? $5.4 million probably isn't far off from the actual value he'll provide for the team, assuming he comes back sometime around the all-star break on 15-22 minutes a game. All this does is make the Warriors better on paper, while giving Demarcus somewhere to hang out while he tries (probably in vain) to rebuild his value to max-contract level.

Does anyone know WTF the Lakers are doing? I get that they wanna sign a bunch of vets to one-year deals to keep their cap space for 2019, but they could have at least gotten some that fit their team (Ariza). Instead, they're assembling one of the most clown car NBA squads in recent memory to put around Lebron in one of his few remaining prime years.

Its being overrated and drawn out because a player of his caliber went to the best team in the NBA... yes his injury (especially at his size) could be a potential career altering, but lets say he’s even a fraction of the boogie we know... that’s still more production the warriors will have had at the 5 since who.. bogut maybe? Not sure on Looney or Zaza. Defense he’ll be a liability perhaps. Fast break etc. The point is the warriors got him for peanuts ha. If he doesnt do shit, he’s gone. It’s a win win for the dubs. Demarcus nor the warriors really lose anything. Just my opinion tho.

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Re: NBA Thread
« Reply #3004 on: July 06, 2018, 11:40:44 AM »
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I also feel that the Boogie signing has been overrated. On a one-year contract, and coming back from an achilles injury, how many total minutes is he going to play for them next year? $5.4 million probably isn't far off from the actual value he'll provide for the team, assuming he comes back sometime around the all-star break on 15-22 minutes a game. All this does is make the Warriors better on paper, while giving Demarcus somewhere to hang out while he tries (probably in vain) to rebuild his value to max-contract level.

Does anyone know WTF the Lakers are doing? I get that they wanna sign a bunch of vets to one-year deals to keep their cap space for 2019, but they could have at least gotten some that fit their team (Ariza). Instead, they're assembling one of the most clown car NBA squads in recent memory to put around Lebron in one of his few remaining prime years.
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Its being overrated and drawn out because a player of his caliber went to the best team in the NBA... yes his injury (especially at his size) could be a potential career altering, but lets say he’s even a fraction of the boogie we know... that’s still more production the warriors will have had at the 5 since who.. bogut maybe? Not sure on Looney or Zaza. Defense he’ll be a liability perhaps. Fast break etc. The point is the warriors got him for peanuts ha. If he doesnt do shit, he’s gone. It’s a win win for the dubs. Demarcus nor the warriors really lose anything. Just my opinion tho.
Tbh it's probably the most production they've had at the 5 since Nate Thurmond (unless you wanna count young Chris Webber as a center).

But whether or not he plays well, he's gone after this season. I believe the CBA dictates that the Warriors can only give him a 120% raise year over year (this might have something to do with Bird Rights as well), so he'll have to go elsewhere to obtain the $100M+ contract he deserves when healthy.

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« Reply #3005 on: July 06, 2018, 11:50:49 AM »
Ah Weber and the dubs... that was actually a real likable warriors team... it gave us this moment (i think this was the 94 play offs)

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« Reply #3006 on: July 06, 2018, 12:11:33 PM »
My grandmother worked with Chris Weber's dad at Cadillac and I went to his basketball camp in the mid 90's and the only thing I remember is one day at lunch, Chris Weber put BBQ sauce on a salad.

It was a more questionable call then him calling timeout when they had none in the NCAA finals.

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« Reply #3007 on: July 06, 2018, 12:24:14 PM »
My grandmother worked with Chris Weber's dad at Cadillac and I went to his basketball camp in the mid 90's and the only thing I remember is one day at lunch, Chris Weber put BBQ sauce on a salad.

It was a more questionable call then him calling timeout when they had none in the NCAA finals.
Fucking incredible. That's the most questionable combination I've heard since Jim Greco ordered coffee and a pork chop at a diner.

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« Reply #3008 on: July 06, 2018, 02:08:39 PM »
Tony Parker signing with the Hornets, this off season is basically a 2k my league game

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Re: NBA Thread
« Reply #3009 on: July 06, 2018, 02:42:28 PM »
The my gm2K wheels keep turning. Dwight to Washington lol
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Re: NBA Thread
« Reply #3010 on: July 06, 2018, 07:03:12 PM »
DeAndre Jordan finally confirmed he signed with us. No one was gonna believe it until Mavs confirmed.

In honor of this my friend who worked for the Mavs posted the welcome video he made 4 years ago that they almost released.

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« Reply #3011 on: July 13, 2018, 10:24:57 PM »
Tony Parker signing with the Hornets, this off season is basically a 2k my league game
Never in my life would I have thought he'd leave the Spurs. What's going on in San Antonio?

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Re: NBA Thread
« Reply #3012 on: July 18, 2018, 05:12:45 AM »
Kawhi to Toronto....

Ok who’s on their 2K account...
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« Reply #3013 on: July 18, 2018, 05:40:28 AM »
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« Reply #3014 on: July 18, 2018, 08:52:44 AM »
Raps did Demar dirty. It amazes me that people want players to be more loyal when you got a guy dedicated to the city and team of Toronto and within days of being told he won't be traded gets shipped off. All for like a year of Kawhi not caring at all and possibly faking injuries until his free agency.

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« Reply #3015 on: July 18, 2018, 09:28:51 AM »
I would have never thought Derozen would have left Raptors too. Going to be odd not seeing him play next to Kyle Lowery no more. 
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« Reply #3016 on: July 18, 2018, 11:22:34 AM »
Kawhi's heel turn caught me completely by surprise, dude seemed like a quiet no nonsense type of player but this whole situation is incredibly annoying to me, I can't imagine what being a Spurs fan during all this must be like.

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« Reply #3017 on: July 19, 2018, 10:01:50 AM »
Now he’s apparently threatening to sit the season out....

What a clusterfuck. I feel like Toronto won that trade, but it’s looking bad for both sides.

Derozan i think is owed a shit ton of money, no? Maybe pop can fix some of his flaws? Granted pop doesn’t retire..
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« Reply #3018 on: July 19, 2018, 12:30:20 PM »
that whole trade is fucked.  I get why both sides did it, but it seems like no one is happy.
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« Reply #3019 on: July 19, 2018, 02:39:37 PM »
Now he’s apparently threatening to sit the season out....

What a clusterfuck. I feel like Toronto won that trade, but it’s looking bad for both sides.

Derozan i think is owed a shit ton of money, no? Maybe pop can fix some of his flaws? Granted pop doesn’t retire..
Per Woj, he's warming to the idea of playing in Toronto since they are a contender in the East. DeRozan is owed 27.7M until 2021, can opt out of his current contract after 2019-20.

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« Reply #3020 on: July 19, 2018, 02:42:39 PM »
Wasn’t Lowry looking to play in San Antonio? best friend is jealous.

Melo about to be waived by Spurs East. Schroder on OKC is pretty interesting.

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« Reply #3021 on: July 21, 2018, 04:13:19 AM »
lowry may have been looking, but i dont think they were gonna bite on that. at least not without being a part of a sizeable package deal

as a raps fan, im really hyped on the trade. loved DeMar's loyalty and how much he backed the city, but the raptors hit a definite ceiling with that core group, no debating it. even with Lebron out West, Boston and Philly have come up, even Indiana was looking pretty decent and promoting our old assistant coach to head coach wasnt gonna make up the difference. DeMar seems like a work horse so i think he'll flourish under Popovich. Jakob Poeltl was decent, but that and the pick(protected top 20 next year, turns into 2 second round picks the following year if thats not met) were peanuts to give up considering we got to keep the rest of the younger talent(OG, Van Vleet, Delon Wright, Pascal Siakam) and also got Danny Green. I didnt think Toronto would land a top 5 player for at least another 10 years or maybe even ever. we're gonna have ridiculous depth for this one year(at least) and if they can perform up to or above par, even though he seems set on LA (naive optimism alert) i think Masai can sell him on staying in toronto even if its just short term, but ideally he'd bite on that 5 year $190 mil that only the raps can offer. im gonna assume he's pretty unfamiliar with the city and feared the worst when he heard he was coming to canada. hopefully his opinion on the franchise can only go up. i dont know if hes the type to care, but he'll pretty much have a whole country backing him if they do well.
im wondering if they slightly regret firing Dwayne Casey as that just seemed like "we gotta do something" move. the new coach/old assistant coach, Nick Nurse is credited with running a lot of their offence though so we'll see what he can do.
as far as DeMar being done dirty, it seems like it might've been more of a miscommunication than a straight up lie, maybe a bit of a sneaky one, though. im biased towards Masai, but apparently he spoke to Derozan at summer league and gave him some expectations he wanted him to meet during or for the coming season. i guess that implied that he'd be staying in toronto long term, but Ujiri also issued a press release around the same time saying that no raptor was untradeable. i see DeMar's point, but i dont think he's delusional enough to not see why it was a move Ujiri had to make.
I don't wanna get my hopes up too high as we are talking about a toronto sports team and Kawhi can be brittle(supposedly currently healthy, though), but i really didnt think something like this would ever happen to the raptors for some reason.
most people i've spoke to in toronto are surprisingly bugging about the trade. they cant believe we traded our best player for a "rental"(even though DeMar only has a 2 year contract to Kawhi's 1. he'd probably resign, but would you want that?), not realizing how elite of a player Kawhi is. I don't know if it's lack of nba knowledge or if theyre just blinded by their love for Derozan and can't get over how he was "done dirty". The guy's tenure in toronto was pretty great and this way he goes out without any blemishes on it(aside from most of his playoff performances). I really hope torontonians can cut the shit by the time october rolls around because we gotta show him how great the fanbase can be(the stuborness is a double edge sword) and try to woo him the way OKC did Paul George. I think if we can actually contend, the Lebron LA factor could actually work to our advantage. wouldn't it be more appealing to take home the championship as the star instead of (what people will probably see even if it's not entirely true) Lebron's sidekick? I know he was already a finals MVP, but im sure he'd like to show people he can do it again with a new squad especially coming off an injury and without another legendary veteran on the team(had tim duncan in 2014). not to mention it'd be the first time anyone's brought it to Canada. i heard someone else point out that he can now use "The Claw" nickname/image to it's full potential as well.
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Re: NBA Thread
« Reply #3022 on: August 27, 2018, 02:11:08 PM »
Ginobili finally hanging up his spurs (horrible pun, I'm sorry) after 16 seasons, and 4 chips. Legend

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« Reply #3023 on: August 28, 2018, 08:42:01 AM »
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« Reply #3024 on: August 28, 2018, 08:53:07 PM »
Ginobili finally hanging up his spurs (horrible pun, I'm sorry) after 16 seasons, and 4 chips. Legend
Only two OG's left. Dirk and Carter.

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« Reply #3025 on: August 28, 2018, 09:09:51 PM »
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Ginobili finally hanging up his spurs (horrible pun, I'm sorry) after 16 seasons, and 4 chips. Legend
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Only two OG's left. Dirk and Carter.

Jamal Crawford...Jason Terry...and I swear there is more.

To think Lebron and his class are right around the corner. Pretty wild times.
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« Reply #3026 on: August 29, 2018, 06:16:20 AM »
Pau is up there, Zach Randolph...  but yeah not many left. Late 90s-Early 2000s basketball was pretty meh... still it’s like an end to an era.
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« Reply #3027 on: October 16, 2018, 01:57:06 PM »
Westbrook is out for the season opener. Will PG score more than 5 ponts?

Will Ben Simmons take a jump shot?

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« Reply #3028 on: October 16, 2018, 03:30:04 PM »
PG13 can put up numbers when he gets more touches, so yeah.

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« Reply #3029 on: October 17, 2018, 01:35:07 PM »
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