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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3030 on: November 07, 2020, 05:08:17 PM »
how are the 97s compared to the 99s when it comes to nose/tail/lip/bluntslides on ledges?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3031 on: November 07, 2020, 05:52:16 PM »
how are the 97s compared to the 99s when it comes to nose/tail/lip/bluntslides on ledges?

Just came back from a sesh. The 97s slide on ledges almost like the 99s but take slightly more effort, you have to push through them a little bit harder because of the extra grip. They're kinda like bones SPF when it comes to tail/nose slides, a lil sticky but controllable.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3032 on: November 08, 2020, 01:48:53 AM »
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how are the 97s compared to the 99s when it comes to nose/tail/lip/bluntslides on ledges?
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Just came back from a sesh. The 97s slide on ledges almost like the 99s but take slightly more effort, you have to push through them a little bit harder because of the extra grip. They're kinda like bones SPF when it comes to tail/nose slides, a lil sticky but controllable.

Color me interested! Iíd rather buy Spitfire than Bones but the SPF just hit the sweetspot for me. Hoping the 97 F4s will become available in Germany soon, could use some new wheels.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3033 on: November 08, 2020, 08:38:09 AM »
Does anybody have any tips for switching bearings. Its been pretty cold where I live as of late and it's been a bitch to switch out bearings. Should I warm them up before I start or is there a technique to taking them out?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3034 on: November 08, 2020, 10:23:14 AM »
SPFs sticky?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3035 on: November 08, 2020, 04:13:35 PM »
Does anybody have any tips for switching bearings. Its been pretty cold where I live as of late and it's been a bitch to switch out bearings. Should I warm them up before I start or is there a technique to taking them out?

The cold is not the biggest issue, but more the fact that there is no lubrication in assisting getting bearings in (or out) so something like WD40, a drop of speed cream or spit as another very helpful person commented previously (not recommended).  You don't need to douse the whole wheel and bearing, just rub a tiny bit around the inside of the wheel and use the old bearing on the truck on the skateboard and push the wheel down on to it trick which should work every time.

Getting them out can be a pain, but you can work a bit into the edge of the bearing / wheel and use a screwdriver to lever the bearing back and forth in the wheel which lets the lube get in and then the bearing should come out very easily.

I can find a video of this if you are not sure.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3036 on: November 08, 2020, 07:48:24 PM »
thanks for the advice. I never really thought of that last I pulled my bearings I was dripping in sweat by the end of it.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3037 on: November 09, 2020, 12:39:14 AM »
OG Classics 55mm is going to be my next wheels.  8)

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3038 on: November 09, 2020, 06:54:54 AM »
are the OG Classic F4's out in any other mm than 55?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3039 on: November 09, 2020, 07:24:42 AM »
are the OG Classic F4's out in any other mm than 55?
looks like that is all that has shipped/seen for sale so far? more sizes listed



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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3040 on: November 09, 2020, 09:51:05 AM »
thanks for posting that, want 52's BAAAAAAD

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3041 on: November 09, 2020, 11:23:44 AM »
thanks for posting that, want 52's BAAAAAAD

No problem! Yeah, those will be sick. Good comparison on page 100 of 52mm tablet shape and 53mm og classic shape.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3042 on: November 15, 2020, 07:52:41 AM »
has anyone seen F4 OG classics in any size other than 55?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3043 on: November 15, 2020, 02:59:41 PM »
has anyone seen F4 OG classics in any size other than 55?

With delays in production, they have only been doing runs of some wheels, so right now the 55mm size might be all that is out, with more on the way, but who knows when that might be.

It does seem that they are getting stocks up quite quickly, so it might be sooner than later, but exactly when, I don't think anyone really knows, hence no one able to answer your question earlier.

As per the Spitfire site and has been shown here as well, there should be 52, 55, 58 and 60mm in those, but from the product card that is included with Spitfire wheels from pre covid it shows OG Classic Formula Four in sizes 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 58 and 60mm, so at some point in the future there might be all sizes.

What size were you hoping for?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3044 on: November 15, 2020, 03:13:46 PM »
Do the 97a handle rough stuff a bit better?  I don't skate parks, and have been skating these Spitfires I got on a Zig Zagger complete 10 years ago and I love them but they're a bit sticky, and i'm not sure if they make them anymore.  They dont really slide at all, but i'm mainly just doing slappies so that's alright. 

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3045 on: November 15, 2020, 08:01:14 PM »
Do the 97a handle rough stuff a bit better?  I don't skate parks, and have been skating these Spitfires I got on a Zig Zagger complete 10 years ago and I love them but they're a bit sticky, and i'm not sure if they make them anymore.  They dont really slide at all, but i'm mainly just doing slappies so that's alright.

Yes 97 give a bit more grip and a bit less vibration overall.

Were the wheels on the Zig Zagger the normal 99 duro or soft wheels?

From ten years ago, there would have been Soft D's in both 95 and 92 duro usually in 52, 54 or 56mm (92 only) which I still have on my boards I ride on slippery ramps or as good get around setups, but I don't think the 80 duro were out, which were way softer, super soft almost mushy feeling - second pic is the 80HD but much the same as the 80s when they came out.

https://www.dlxsf.com/spring16/img/spring16/sf/28_SOFTDS-800.jpg

https://www.dlxsf.com/spring16/img/spring16/sf/17_CHARGERS_DT-1200.jpg

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3046 on: November 15, 2020, 09:07:30 PM »
Does anybody have any tips for switching bearings. Its been pretty cold where I live as of late and it's been a bitch to switch out bearings. Should I warm them up before I start or is there a technique to taking them out?

the lube suggestion works, but if you can, id really suggest investing in a bearing press, its so easy for putting bearings in and the hook for pulling them out is amazing too. I just keep mine in my plastic skate shit bin.

Main thing for me is that the press puts them in much straighter than by hand, so no wiggle when you spin them.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3047 on: November 15, 2020, 11:43:09 PM »
iím pretty sure i heard somewhere that you could use your truck axle as a bearing press.... like put the wheel on and do the first bearing as usual, then the second bearing get it in as far as possible. put washer on the outside bearing then the nut, then tighten it down all the way so the bearing(s) go right into the wheel straight. then back it off to where you usually ride it. idk if it damages bearings or not but it seems to work pretty good sooooo....
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3048 on: November 16, 2020, 12:28:22 AM »
iím pretty sure i heard somewhere that you could use your truck axle as a bearing press.... like put the wheel on and do the first bearing as usual, then the second bearing get it in as far as possible. put washer on the outside bearing then the nut, then tighten it down all the way so the bearing(s) go right into the wheel straight. then back it off to where you usually ride it. idk if it damages bearings or not but it seems to work pretty good sooooo....

This is how I have been doing it since the 90s and I don't think I have ever damaged a bearing. I am also using the axle to remove bearings when they are stuck, just push it halfway into the wheel so the thread grabs onto the inside of the bearing and wiggle/pull the wheel at an angle.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3049 on: November 16, 2020, 01:46:27 AM »
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iím pretty sure i heard somewhere that you could use your truck axle as a bearing press.... like put the wheel on and do the first bearing as usual, then the second bearing get it in as far as possible. put washer on the outside bearing then the nut, then tighten it down all the way so the bearing(s) go right into the wheel straight. then back it off to where you usually ride it. idk if it damages bearings or not but it seems to work pretty good sooooo....
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This is how I have been doing it since the 90s and I don't think I have ever damaged a bearing. I am also using the axle to remove bearings when they are stuck, just push it halfway into the wheel so the thread grabs onto the inside of the bearing and wiggle/pull the wheel at an angle.

Yes indeed! 

The simple skateboard is often the best work bench for doing or fixing lots of things.

The only difference is I put two bearings onto the axle, face down, press the wheel down on the first and spin to make sure it is centered, turn the wheel over and push it down on the second, spin and if good, then put the nut straight on.

Super easy.

Note I put both axle washers on the inside, most of the time even a third, just to get the wheels out a little bit more and the nut is flush with the end of the axle.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3050 on: November 16, 2020, 08:07:41 AM »
You guys ever try one of those skate tools with the bearing press on there? Pretty dope. It makes it too big to carry but I just kinda keep it as my at home tool and it works out nicely.
Also if i thought a mob of yewwing sweaty californians were about to wrap me up in a pabst-scented covid group hug I'd start pushing the fuck out of there too

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3051 on: November 16, 2020, 04:13:24 PM »
You guys ever try one of those skate tools with the bearing press on there? Pretty dope. It makes it too big to carry but I just kinda keep it as my at home tool and it works out nicely.

I have one, or should I say I have lots, one in every place I have to fix boards.  I know there are a few options, but the Reflex tool / Indy tool which has the press and the axle rethreader and they are amazing, but to put bearings in when building setups, I find it a whole lot easier to spread the pressure over both palms of my hands pushing down on the wheel on the axle while the board is on the floor.  It takes half the time too.

Also I know when people have put bearings in but are a bit off center, this way I can check they are spinning correctly on the axle.

These really are the best all round tool I have, mainly for the added rethreader, but it is solid and doesn't bend or break.


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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3052 on: November 16, 2020, 11:33:25 PM »
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iím pretty sure i heard somewhere that you could use your truck axle as a bearing press.... like put the wheel on and do the first bearing as usual, then the second bearing get it in as far as possible. put washer on the outside bearing then the nut, then tighten it down all the way so the bearing(s) go right into the wheel straight. then back it off to where you usually ride it. idk if it damages bearings or not but it seems to work pretty good sooooo....
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This is how I have been doing it since the 90s and I don't think I have ever damaged a bearing. I am also using the axle to remove bearings when they are stuck, just push it halfway into the wheel so the thread grabs onto the inside of the bearing and wiggle/pull the wheel at an angle.
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Yes indeed! 

The simple skateboard is often the best work bench for doing or fixing lots of things.

The only difference is I put two bearings onto the axle, face down, press the wheel down on the first and spin to make sure it is centered, turn the wheel over and push it down on the second, spin and if good, then put the nut straight on.

Super easy.

Note I put both axle washers on the inside, most of the time even a third, just to get the wheels out a little bit more and the nut is flush with the end of the axle.
yeah man good to hear i havenít been doing it wrong all along... kinda thought the getting the first bearing in reasonably straight was a given lmao. in terms of spitfire iíve got some spitfire radial 55mm 99a possibly coming my way that iím theoretically saving for christmas time, i got a pair of 56mm conical full 101a down to 49 or so mm across all wheels, at which point they were too small for my crusty streets so i threw on some lock-ins i had from a couple of summers ago to get me by.. so far so good. i havenít skated transition with them yet but i think they should lock in like a conical full? maybe not, iím not sure
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3053 on: November 17, 2020, 05:18:20 AM »


lock-ins i had from a couple of summers ago to get me by.. so far so good. i havenít skated transition with them yet but i think they should lock in like a conical full? maybe not, iím not sure

spitfire radial 55mm 99a  = excellent choice!

Radials, lock ins and conical full all have a more squared edge, so will feel much the same on transition (for the tiny part of the wheel that actually touches coping).

Classic variations are the only one with a really rounded edge and I find them easier to get on and off coping, but other people I know say they slip out on classics, so if you are used to the squared edge, the ones you said will most likely work best.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3054 on: November 17, 2020, 02:07:52 PM »
F4 97'S feel super good, not at all like a cruiser wheel but with just a little bit of give on crusty spots, still a little bark when you slide, still have my tailslides, blunt slides etc.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3055 on: November 17, 2020, 07:48:16 PM »
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lock-ins i had from a couple of summers ago to get me by.. so far so good. i havenít skated transition with them yet but i think they should lock in like a conical full? maybe not, iím not sure
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spitfire radial 55mm 99a  = excellent choice!

Radials, lock ins and conical full all have a more squared edge, so will feel much the same on transition (for the tiny part of the wheel that actually touches coping).

Classic variations are the only one with a really rounded edge and I find them easier to get on and off coping, but other people I know say they slip out on classics, so if you are used to the squared edge, the ones you said will most likely work best.

Radials are the best. My favorite shape, lots of grip, rounded enough to tailslide and crook, but square enough to lock in. Shape looks great too.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3056 on: November 18, 2020, 05:31:29 PM »
Is the 97a new? I recall 99a and 101a, of course, but suddenly I am seeing 97a around. Did Spitfire realize that America's infrastructure is crumbling and skaters need a softer wheel?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3057 on: November 18, 2020, 06:58:25 PM »
Is the 97a new? I recall 99a and 101a, of course, but suddenly I am seeing 97a around. Did Spitfire realize that America's infrastructure is crumbling and skaters need a softer wheel?
Yes the 97a are new for this new drop. only in classic shape.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3058 on: November 18, 2020, 07:58:17 PM »
thanks for posting that, want 52's BAAAAAAD

Tactics has them "coming soon"

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3059 on: November 19, 2020, 12:34:54 AM »
OG Classics 55mm is going to be my next wheels.  8)

I lied, got 55mm Skate Like a Girl Radials from local.